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Dave[_18_] June 28th 08 02:40 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Tex wrote:
The top 10% own 72% of the wealth.

The rest of the 90% own 28% of the wealth.

The top 1% owns 37% of the wealth.

1% of Americans own more wealth than the entire 90% of the rest of
Americans (37% vs. 28%).

Source: The Federal Reserve

Whens the last time a rich person did anything for you? Yeah me
neither.



The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from
2003: 33.71%)

The top 1% own 53% of the stock market.

D Peter Maus June 28th 08 02:57 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Tex wrote:
The top 10% own 72% of the wealth.

The rest of the 90% own 28% of the wealth.

The top 1% owns 37% of the wealth.

1% of Americans own more wealth than the entire 90% of the rest of
Americans (37% vs. 28%).

Source: The Federal Reserve

Whens the last time a rich person did anything for you? Yeah me
neither.



The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from
2003: 33.71%)

The top 1% own 53% of the stock market.



So, what? One person on my block owns 80% of all the real estate.

Ownership isn't a crime.

Do the work, you can own something, too.



David Eduardo[_4_] June 28th 08 03:56 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Tex wrote:
The top 10% own 72% of the wealth.

The rest of the 90% own 28% of the wealth.

The top 1% owns 37% of the wealth.

1% of Americans own more wealth than the entire 90% of the rest of
Americans (37% vs. 28%).

Source: The Federal Reserve

Whens the last time a rich person did anything for you? Yeah me
neither.



The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from 2003:
33.71%)

The top 1% own 53% of the stock market.


No, that is patently untrue. I do not have the exact figure on hand, but
somewhere above half of the worth of all public shares is owned by mutual
funds, pension funds and insurance companies. In other words, anyone with a
401k or IRA, anyone with life insurance or fire or hazard insurance, anyone
with a union or company pension, indirectly owns those shares.




RHF June 28th 08 04:49 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
On Jun 28, 6:57*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Tex wrote:
The top 10% own 72% of the wealth.


The rest of the 90% own 28% of the wealth.


The top 1% owns 37% of the wealth.


1% of Americans own more wealth than the entire 90% of the rest of
Americans (37% vs. 28%).


Source: The Federal Reserve


Whens the last time a rich person did anything for you? Yeah me
neither.


* The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from
2003: 33.71%)


The top 1% own 53% of the stock market.


* *So, what? One person on my block owns 80% of all the real estate.


-* *Ownership isn't a crime.

The Left-Wing Liberals 'think' It Should Be
in The Name of the Common Good.

- * *Do the work,

The Left-Wing Liberals 'feel' You Are Being Mean Spirited
by Saying People Should Work for What They Get.

- you can own something, too.

The Left-Wing Liberals 'known' That What You Have
Rightfully Belongs To Others.

We Are The Liberals : Your Property Will Be Assimilated !

just for the fun of it ~ RHF

RHF June 28th 08 04:55 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
On Jun 28, 7:56*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

...





D Peter Maus wrote:
Tex wrote:
The top 10% own 72% of the wealth.


The rest of the 90% own 28% of the wealth.


The top 1% owns 37% of the wealth.


1% of Americans own more wealth than the entire 90% of the rest of
Americans (37% vs. 28%).


Source: The Federal Reserve


Whens the last time a rich person did anything for you? Yeah me
neither.


* The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from 2003:
33.71%)


The top 1% own 53% of the stock market.


- No, that is patently untrue. I do not have the exact
- figure on hand, but somewhere above half of the worth
- of all public shares is owned by mutual funds, pension
- funds and insurance companies. In other words, anyone
- with a 401k or IRA, anyone with life insurance or fire
- or hazard insurance, anyone with a union or company
- pension, indirectly owns those shares.

That is sort of kind of 'true'
-but- Who Controls All Those Assets ?
- - - not John Q. Public
[ The Rich Elite Who Sit on the Boards ]

As A Matter Of Fact : WHO OWNS BIG OIL
A Whole Bunch of Public Pension Plans for one.

Dave[_18_] June 28th 08 04:58 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Tex wrote:
The top 10% own 72% of the wealth.

The rest of the 90% own 28% of the wealth.

The top 1% owns 37% of the wealth.

1% of Americans own more wealth than the entire 90% of the rest of
Americans (37% vs. 28%).

Source: The Federal Reserve

Whens the last time a rich person did anything for you? Yeah me
neither.



The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from
2003: 33.71%)

The top 1% own 53% of the stock market.



So, what? One person on my block owns 80% of all the real estate.

Ownership isn't a crime.

Do the work, you can own something, too.


The working stiff is getting from both ends. Buying power down,
exposure way up. Risk has been transferred from capital to labor. That
is perverse and marks a nation on the brink of disaster. Tax cuts for
the wealthy are actually loans that the middle class will have to repay.
We are in the middle of a class war that Ronald Reagan started. You my
friend are on the wrong side.

Dave[_18_] June 28th 08 05:12 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
RHF wrote:

We Are The Liberals : Your Property Will Be Assimilated !

just for the fun of it ~ RHF
.


You are such a tool. Those who benefit the most should give the most
back. Warren Buffet pays a lower tax rate than his secretary.

Dave[_18_] June 28th 08 10:04 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Milton Friedman says that tax cuts are the only way to jump start an
economy.



Milton Friedman is Satan. Tax cuts for the rich benefit the rich.
Nothing trickles down. They create new jobs, only in China or Vietnam.

Worker productivity up, worker compensation down. That ain't how the
USA is supposed to work. We are being bled dry.

Dave[_18_] June 28th 08 10:11 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.


"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons. Our elected
leaders realized that if they did not pass some major legislation the
Robber Barons would eventually own every inch of land in America and our
founding fathers vision of an egalitarian democratic republic would be
destroyed, and our Constitution would be worthless. So in 1913 they
passed the sixteenth amendment to the Constitution and a highly
progressive tax system.

This new highly progressive tax system also included an estate tax.
The highly progressive estate tax forced the Robber Barons to decide
between paying a large tax bill to the government at their death, or
giving a lot of their wealth away to charities, school, libraries,
foundations, hospitals, research institutes, and other organizations
that would benefit our society as a whole. And they ended up doing both
to the great benefit of American society.

Our current economic success and the growth of the middle class is
a direct consequence of these progressive tax legislative actions.
However, a new group of Robber Barons has emerged and they, like the
first Robber Barons, are threatening our democracy. These new Robber
Barons have successfully lobbied our political leaders, with campaign
contributions and political infiltrators, and they have gotten
legislation passed that has changed our progressive tax system into a
regressive tax system that is full of special interest provisions and
tax loopholes.

As a result of these regressive changes the average middle class
worker now pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than does
the average millionaire, and the average billionaire pays an even
smaller percentage.

Adjusted gross income


Tax rate


Components of tax rate
$0 to $8,200

15.3%
15.3% payroll, 0% income tax
$8,201 to $15,500

25.3%
15.3% payroll, 10% income tax
$15,501 to $37,900

30.3%
15.3% payroll, 15% income tax
$37,901 to $80,150

40.3%
15.3% payroll, 25% income tax
$80,151 to $90,000

43.3%
15.3% payroll, 28% income tax
$90,000 to $158,350

30.9%
2.9% Medicare, 28% income tax
$158,351 to $334,650

35.9%
2.9% Medicare, 33% income tax
Over $334,650

37.9%
2.9% Medicare, 35% income tax

(The table was published in the Dallas Morning News on 5/18/2005
and it shows that a single self-employed individual who makes around
$80k per year is paying a higher percentage of their income in taxes
then someone making over $330k per year.)"

http://fixco1.com/bushtaxsystem.html

Dave[_18_] June 28th 08 10:13 PM

(OT) : D'Oh ! DaviD -proclaims- Ronald Reagan Stated a ClassWar
 
RHF wrote:


Dave - How Can Truth, Justice and The American Way
-be- The Wrong Side ? ~ RHF
.


How can I take you seriously if you spout cliche` from comic books?

Telamon June 28th 08 10:21 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Milton Friedman says that tax cuts are the only way to jump start an
economy.



Milton Friedman is Satan.


SNIP

And you are a drug addled clown.

I suggest arguing about radios in this news group.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon June 28th 08 10:24 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.


"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.


SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] June 28th 08 10:30 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income
legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he
has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.


"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.


SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?


Hal Turner told him it was so.



D Peter Maus June 28th 08 10:33 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Milton Friedman says that tax cuts are the only way to jump start an
economy.



Milton Friedman is Satan. Tax cuts for the rich benefit the rich.




Tax cuts for the rich are a myth. Tax cuts are tax cuts. If only the
rich are paying taxes, only the rich will experience the cuts.

You can't have a reduction in tax payments if you aren't making them.



Nothing trickles down.



Yeah? Your have a job?


Poor people do not create employment.




Worker productivity up, worker compensation down.




Hmmm....the middle class average income is up. Wealthy class has
expanded due to middle class families moving up.

How much capital investment by poor people have made that possible?

And when was it that the minimum wage went down. I must have missed that.


That ain't how the
USA is supposed to work. We are being bled dry.




By whom? Those that take money from me and give it to you?

Yes, I agree.


Consider this...since 1964, we've spent $6 1/2 TRILLION in the 'War
on Poverty.' All of it tax money taken from the earnings of those working.

That's 7 figures for every man woman and child THAT"S EVER LIVED in
North America.

And yet...there are still poor people.

Hmmmm...

Do you think it might be because you can't change the economic status
of a poor person by giving them money? One of the reasons they're poor,
is because THEY DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MONEY.


Hand a two people each a dollar and one will spend it. The other will
spend some of it, and turn the rest over to generate another dollar.


Which one becomes rich and which becomes poor? The one who spent his
dollar does not have a right to expect someone to take the other guy's
profits and give them to him.


The only thing that will reduce poverty in the US, is education and
opportunity. Education, we've ****ed up beyond all recognition.

Opportunity....well that has to be TAKEN. That never changes. Meaning
someone who wants to change his situation has to take the opportunity
and do what it takes.

What we need to do in Education is to teach that we have to TAKE THE
OPPORTUNITY AND DO THE WORK.

Sheesh.....

You can't change your situation by waiting for someone to hand you
money.


A co-worker of mine, in 1995, won the Illinois lottery. Should have
been set for life. Everyone told him to invest the money to build
wealth. Not knowing what to do with money, and being unwilling to give
any of it to someone, like a financial planner, to help him, he was
broke in less than a year.

I could have retired on his winnings, and supported everyone in my
neighborhood. Matt...well...he's still living in a cold water walkup
driving a 20 year old Oldsmobile. Earning minimum wage.

That's not the fault of the rich.








D Peter Maus June 28th 08 10:37 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
Dave wrote:



As a result of these regressive changes the average middle class
worker now pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than does
the average millionaire, and the average billionaire pays an even
smaller percentage.




The tax system is unfair. But remember that about 30% of the
population pays zero tax at all.

You can't cut the taxes of those who don't pay them.

And you can't make the poor wealthy by making the wealthy poor.

A flat tax would be the most fair.

It would also be the most effective.

Dave[_18_] June 29th 08 02:36 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.

"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.


SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?

Alex Jones touches on these themes from time to time. Like William
Cooper used to; but he was full of crap too, right?

Dave[_18_] June 29th 08 02:36 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Milton Friedman says that tax cuts are the only way to jump start
an economy.



Milton Friedman is Satan. Tax cuts for the rich benefit the rich.




Tax cuts for the rich are a myth. Tax cuts are tax cuts. If only the
rich are paying taxes, only the rich will experience the cuts.

You can't have a reduction in tax payments if you aren't making them.



Nothing trickles down.



Yeah? Your have a job?


Poor people do not create employment.




Worker productivity up, worker compensation down.




Hmmm....the middle class average income is up. Wealthy class has
expanded due to middle class families moving up.

How much capital investment by poor people have made that possible?

And when was it that the minimum wage went down. I must have missed that.


That ain't how the USA is supposed to work. We are being bled dry.




By whom? Those that take money from me and give it to you?

Yes, I agree.


Consider this...since 1964, we've spent $6 1/2 TRILLION in the 'War on
Poverty.' All of it tax money taken from the earnings of those working.

That's 7 figures for every man woman and child THAT"S EVER LIVED in
North America.

And yet...there are still poor people.

Hmmmm...

Do you think it might be because you can't change the economic status
of a poor person by giving them money? One of the reasons they're poor,
is because THEY DON"T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MONEY.


Hand a two people each a dollar and one will spend it. The other will
spend some of it, and turn the rest over to generate another dollar.


Which one becomes rich and which becomes poor? The one who spent his
dollar does not have a right to expect someone to take the other guy's
profits and give them to him.


The only thing that will reduce poverty in the US, is education and
opportunity. Education, we've ****ed up beyond all recognition.

Opportunity....well that has to be TAKEN. That never changes. Meaning
someone who wants to change his situation has to take the opportunity
and do what it takes.

What we need to do in Education is to teach that we have to TAKE THE
OPPORTUNITY AND DO THE WORK.

Sheesh.....

You can't change your situation by waiting for someone to hand you money.


A co-worker of mine, in 1995, won the Illinois lottery. Should have
been set for life. Everyone told him to invest the money to build
wealth. Not knowing what to do with money, and being unwilling to give
any of it to someone, like a financial planner, to help him, he was
broke in less than a year.

I could have retired on his winnings, and supported everyone in my
neighborhood. Matt...well...he's still living in a cold water walkup
driving a 20 year old Oldsmobile. Earning minimum wage.

That's not the fault of the rich.


I work for 3 millionaires. They are very generous.

Dave[_18_] June 29th 08 02:37 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:



As a result of these regressive changes the average middle class
worker now pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than does
the average millionaire, and the average billionaire pays an even
smaller percentage.




The tax system is unfair. But remember that about 30% of the
population pays zero tax at all.

The only people who pay no taxes are wealthy people with really good
accountants.

D Peter Maus June 29th 08 03:11 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:



As a result of these regressive changes the average middle class
worker now pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than
does the average millionaire, and the average billionaire pays an
even smaller percentage.




The tax system is unfair. But remember that about 30% of the
population pays zero tax at all.

The only people who pay no taxes are wealthy people with really good
accountants.



Guess again.


Dave[_18_] June 29th 08 03:31 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:



As a result of these regressive changes the average middle class
worker now pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than
does the average millionaire, and the average billionaire pays an
even smaller percentage.



The tax system is unfair. But remember that about 30% of the
population pays zero tax at all.

The only people who pay no taxes are wealthy people with really good
accountants.



Guess again.

Poor people pay sales tax.

"Lloyd Blankfein, the chief executive of Goldman Sachs, acknowledged in
an interview yesterday that there were justified concerns about the huge
profits generated by private equity firms and that he worried that
income inequality was “poisoning democracy”. He also said that he would
be voting for the Democrat candidate at the next election. Mr Blankfein
is the highest-paid executive on Wall Street, earning $54 million last year.

Mr Buffett, who runs the investment group Berkshire Hathaway and is
widely regarded as the world’s most successful investor, said that he
was a Democrat because Republicans are more likely to think: “I’m making
$80 million a year – God must have intended me to have a lower tax rate.” "

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle1996735.ece

David Eduardo[_4_] June 29th 08 03:39 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:



As a result of these regressive changes the average middle class
worker now pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than does
the average millionaire, and the average billionaire pays an even
smaller percentage.




The tax system is unfair. But remember that about 30% of the
population pays zero tax at all.

The only people who pay no taxes are wealthy people with really good
accountants.


Seldom true, unless they have made poor investments and have losses.



Dorpmuller June 29th 08 07:58 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
**** the rich-I'll be the first volunteer to hang 'em from light poles.
Seriously.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:



As a result of these regressive changes the average middle class
worker now pays a higher percentage of their income in taxes than does
the average millionaire, and the average billionaire pays an even
smaller percentage.




The tax system is unfair. But remember that about 30% of the
population pays zero tax at all.

The only people who pay no taxes are wealthy people with really good
accountants.




Telamon June 29th 08 08:34 AM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.

"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.


SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?

Alex Jones touches on these themes from time to time. Like William
Cooper used to; but he was full of crap too, right?


Yes. That guy was a nut and it got him killed for no good reason. What a
waste.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce June 29th 08 08:41 AM

(OT) Who Owns America's Wealth?
 


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.

"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.

SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?

Alex Jones touches on these themes from time to time. Like William
Cooper used to; but he was full of crap too, right?


Yes. That guy was a nut and it got him killed for no good reason. What a
waste.


I listened to him (on SW of course!) for the humour. I picked up a copy of his
book, 'Behold a Pale Horse' I think it was, and was amused by it as well.

He was a real goofball.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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70' and 200' wires
GE SR I, II and III
PRO-2045, BC895XLT
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Telamon June 29th 08 08:56 AM

(OT) Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his
income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad
employer. He's responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He
runs businesses. Invests his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of
us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not
earned.

"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of
super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.

SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?

Alex Jones touches on these themes from time to time. Like
William Cooper used to; but he was full of crap too, right?


Yes. That guy was a nut and it got him killed for no good reason.
What a waste.


I listened to him (on SW of course!) for the humour. I picked up a
copy of his book, 'Behold a Pale Horse' I think it was, and was
amused by it as well.

He was a real goofball.


The guy had passion and lived up to his rhetoric but it got him killed
by the police. If he was still around he would be telling us that David
and Tex had a full load in their diapers.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce June 29th 08 09:00 AM

(OT) Who Owns America's Wealth?
 


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his
income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad
employer. He's responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He
runs businesses. Invests his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of
us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not
earned.

"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of
super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.

SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?

Alex Jones touches on these themes from time to time. Like
William Cooper used to; but he was full of crap too, right?

Yes. That guy was a nut and it got him killed for no good reason.
What a waste.


I listened to him (on SW of course!) for the humour. I picked up a
copy of his book, 'Behold a Pale Horse' I think it was, and was
amused by it as well.

He was a real goofball.


The guy had passion and lived up to his rhetoric but it got him killed
by the police. If he was still around he would be telling us that David
and Tex had a full load in their diapers.


Another guy I thought was amusing was out of Florida I think, ran 'Radio Free
America'?

He was amusing, can't remember what he was selling. He may still be on via the
internet.



Billy Smith June 29th 08 04:48 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income
legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.

He's earned his wealth.

To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he
has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.


"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.


SNIP

That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?


Hal Turner told him it was so.


Even the bigot has more credibility than you do. At least everyone knows
what his personal preferences are and what social program he supports which
is overtly racist. On the other hand, you serve the radio broadcasting
industry as a corporate shill


RHF June 29th 08 05:47 PM

ABOUT - William Cooper "Shortwave Broadcaster"
 
On Jun 28, 6:36*pm, Dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*Dave wrote:


D Peter Maus wrote:


* Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.


* He's earned his wealth.


* To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.


* * *"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.


SNIP


That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?


Alex Jones touches on these themes from time to time. *Like William
Cooper used to; but he was full of crap too, right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


ABOUT - William Cooper "Shortwave Broadcaster"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/william_cooper.htm
http://www.hourofthetime.com/william.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cooper.htm
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/cooper.html

Video - William Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_c1hiwnrno&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4EyBstOsA

"Babylon" Mystery Series -by- William Cooper
http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/a...ry_babylon.htm

~ RHF

Dave[_18_] June 29th 08 06:28 PM

ABOUT - William Cooper "Shortwave Broadcaster"
 
RHF wrote:

ABOUT - William Cooper "Shortwave Broadcaster"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/william_cooper.htm
http://www.hourofthetime.com/william.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cooper.htm
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/cooper.html

Video - William Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_c1hiwnrno&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4EyBstOsA

"Babylon" Mystery Series -by- William Cooper
http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/a...ry_babylon.htm

~ RHF
.

Don't forget Bo Gritz.

"I was trained and qualified as a Master Parachutist/HALO; Underwater
Operations/Salvage Diver, Ranger, Special Forces Officer, Intelligence
Operative, Aviator, Nuclear-Biological-Chemical officer, Martial Arts
Blackbelt Instructor, Linguist in Swahili and Chinese Mandarin. I've
been decorated 62 time for valor and success in special operations
tasks. I've been educated with as BS in Law and Correction, MA in
Communications, MS Military Science, Ph.D. in Para-Psychology (Mind
Control) and Security Operations. I've made the acquaintance, worked
for, and operated with prominent para-military, intelligence, national
leadership, and foreign criminal personalities including presidents,
generals, drug overlords, guerrilla leaders, et all. I know who killed
the Kennedys, destroyed the Oklahoma City Federal Building, caused the
downings of Pam-Am 103 and TWA-800, knew about and allowed the 9-11
attacks; and where and how the Islamic Jihad will next strike the U.S. I
know the Insider plan for Globalism; where we are in that progression,
and how International Socialist/Facist plan to achieve their goal of
world domination."

http://www.bogritz.com/lookingglass.html


Cato June 30th 08 08:33 PM

Who Owns America's Wealth?
 
On Jun 28, 11:58*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Tex wrote:
The top 10% own 72% of the wealth.


The rest of the 90% own 28% of the wealth.


The top 1% owns 37% of the wealth.


1% of Americans own more wealth than the entire 90% of the rest of
Americans (37% vs. 28%).


Source: The Federal Reserve


Whens the last time a rich person did anything for you? Yeah me
neither.


* The top 1% pay over a third, 34.27% of all income taxes. (Up from
2003: 33.71%)


The top 1% own 53% of the stock market.


* So, what? One person on my block owns 80% of all the real estate.


* Ownership isn't a crime.


* Do the work, you can own something, too.


The working stiff is getting from both ends. *Buying power down,
exposure way up. *Risk has been transferred from capital to labor. *That
is perverse and marks a nation on the brink of disaster. *Tax cuts for
the wealthy are actually loans that the middle class will have to repay.
We are in the middle of a class war that Ronald Reagan started. *You my
friend are on the wrong side.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Welcome back the 1930's Great Depression that hit North America and
Europe so hard... Let's ride the rails boys..
Grow our vegetable gardens on empty plots of land somewhere......
For those lucky to have a small shack... make sure you have your
canning supplies... learn how to make your own soap like great grandma
did....mend your own clothes...you can do amazing things with needle
and thread...
We have our hybrid rechargeable batteries and solar chargers ready
for our radios and flashlights... water filters and purifiers...
rifles and ammo....camping supplies.....
Get ready folks..... THE **** IS GOING TO HIT THE FAN AGAIN. ..
Ten or twenty year depression... and a big war to to solve the
problem...

Actually I liked Ronald Reagan of the U.S.... and his good friend
Margarate Thatcher of Britain. A great pair of good folks.
The two of them made things difficult for the U.S.S.R. and in the
case of Margarate Thatcher of Britain... Argentina as well....
Remember the Falkland Islands and the Iron Lady.

Jim[_7_] July 4th 08 01:31 AM

ABOUT - William Cooper "Shortwave Broadcaster"
 
Buffet earned nothing. Like J.P. Morgan before him
he is the European Rothschild representative here
in the USA.




On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:47:01 -0700 (PDT), RHF
wrote:

On Jun 28, 6:36*pm, Dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*Dave wrote:


D Peter Maus wrote:


* Consider also, that Warren Buffett pays less tax on his income legally
because, among other things, he is a powerful and broad employer. He's
responsible hundreds of thousands of jobs. He runs businesses. Invests
his money.


* He's earned his wealth.


* To suggest that taxation is insufficient for the rest of us, as he has
repeatedly in the last 15 years, is an arrogance he has not earned.


* * *"In the late 1800's and early 1900's there was a group of super
wealthy American capitalist known as the Robber Barons.


SNIP


That's nice. You heard about this on SW right?


Alex Jones touches on these themes from time to time. *Like William
Cooper used to; but he was full of crap too, right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


ABOUT - William Cooper "Shortwave Broadcaster"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/william_cooper.htm
http://www.hourofthetime.com/william.htm
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/cooper.htm
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/cooper.html

Video - William Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_c1hiwnrno&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4EyBstOsA

"Babylon" Mystery Series -by- William Cooper
http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/a...ry_babylon.htm

~ RHF
.




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