Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

I was reading the thread from the guy asking about using a outside tv
antenna. I know that can be done.

Here's my story. I got a pretty big parabolic tv antenna that was
given to me by a former neighbor, I had my eyes on it for years. :-)
It measures 7 1/2 feet wide at the middle element (the longest
element) X 7 ft. in height. It has eight reflectors+ the little bow-
tie UHF antenna I suppose. I have it laying in the yard with it
already mounted to a pretty long steel/iron ? pole.

Would that particular antenna work better if I hooked a rotor to it?
The antenna is a big perfect circle- looks pretty cool. That is a
directional antenna correct? If so- I've tried to figure out how does
the rotor make it turn- is there a certain pole made for that so it
turns easily? I'd love to add that to my mini antenna farm and maybe
(if possible) run a splitter just to see what tv signals I could
grab. :-) Oh- did I say it looks cool also.
TIA

Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

BCBlazysusan wrote:

I was reading the thread from the guy asking about using a outside tv
antenna. I know that can be done.

Here's my story. I got a pretty big parabolic tv antenna that was
given to me by a former neighbor, I had my eyes on it for years. :-)
It measures 7 1/2 feet wide at the middle element (the longest
element) X 7 ft. in height. It has eight reflectors+ the little bow-
tie UHF antenna I suppose. I have it laying in the yard with it
already mounted to a pretty long steel/iron ? pole.

Would that particular antenna work better if I hooked a rotor to it?
The antenna is a big perfect circle- looks pretty cool. That is a
directional antenna correct? If so- I've tried to figure out how does
the rotor make it turn- is there a certain pole made for that so it
turns easily? I'd love to add that to my mini antenna farm and maybe
(if possible) run a splitter just to see what tv signals I could
grab. :-) Oh- did I say it looks cool also.

Don't think I've seen one of those in a long time. Hook it up, see how it works.

Maybe it will still work OK for that digital stuff as well, but I'm not sure
what freqs those new channels are on.

I've not given much thought to the total digital conversion coming next year and
I've not had the tele on here for weeks. Seem to watch it more in fall and
winter.

Using the Big Ugly Dish as a Shortwave Radio Antenna - [Was : PingRHF/Steve etc.]
 

On Jun 29, 7:10*pm, BCBlazysusan wrote:
-
- I was reading the thread from the guy asking about
- using a outside tv antenna. I know that can be done.
-
- Here's my story. I got a pretty big parabolic tv antenna that was
- given to me by a former neighbor, I had my eyes on it for years. :-)
- It measures 7 1/2 feet wide at the middle element (the longest
- element) X 7 ft. in height. It has eight reflectors+ the little bow-
- tie UHF antenna I suppose. I have it laying in the yard with it
- already mounted to a pretty long steel/iron ? pole.
-
- Would that particular antenna work better if I hooked a rotor to it?
- The antenna is a big perfect circle- looks pretty cool. That is a
- directional antenna correct? If so- I've tried to figure out how
does
- the rotor make it turn- is there a certain pole made for that so it
- turns easily? I'd love to add that to my mini antenna farm and maybe
- (if possible) run a splitter just to see what tv signals I could
- grab. :-) Oh- did I say it looks cool also.
- TIA

BCL Lazy Susan,

Are you Talking about a Ku -or- C Band Dish Antenna ?
http://www.dvbhardware.com/images/sami_10foot.gif
http://www.videointerchange.com/images/Big-Dish.jpg
-aka- Big Ugly Dish {BUD}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_ugly_dish

Used to Broadcast Satellite TV Signals to the USA ?
http://www.realityradionetwork.com/images/satimage.jpg

ABOUT - The "Ku" and "C" Bands
* "Ku" Band ~ 11.7 to 12.2 GHz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band
* "C" Band ~ 4 to 8 GHz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_band

These Satellite Dishes work great for what they are intended
for; and they are not intended as a Shortwave Antenna.

Having said that -if- the Dish is Insulated from the Ground
and all the Surface Parts of the Metal Mesh Dish are
connected together it can be used as a Shortwave Antenna
of sorts. Note that the Fiberglass Dishes would not be
worth the time to play around with imho.

=IF= You want to Try Receiving the Ku and C Band with
one of these GREAT : Otherwise spend your time and
Money on a Real Shortwave Antenna that is designed
to pick-up and Receive Shortwave Radio Signals 1.8 MHz
to 30 MHz and not Signals in the Giga Hertz (GHz) Range.

Shortwave Antennas -webpage- Universal-Radio.Com
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant.html

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF

Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

Hey Steve/RHF/Telamon- thanks for the responses.
I'll try an clear up what I said earlier. I just refered to a Radio
Shack antenna selection/installation and projects book. I couldn't
find an actual pic of it- they have folded dipole/yagi/stacked arrays/
multi elements/log periodic/conical arrays etc. It is not a satellite
dish. It is a parabolic circular shape antenna. There is no meshing or
anything like that but it does resemble one (dish) just for the fact
that it is in the shape of a big perfect circle.

I messed up earlier and left something out of the specs. It has 24
elements with 4" spacing between each one. If the antenna was up in
the air those elements are all horizontal with the longest element
being the one in the middle and it's 7 1/2 ft. in length. The other
elements get gradually smaller as you are going either up or down.
From the bottom of the circle to the top is exactly 7 ft. in height.
Coming directly from the middle of the circle straight forward are 8
smaller elements plus a little bow tie looking UHF {?} antenna. Can
you picture this Steve- RHF-Telamon? After reading up on different
antennas the closest description that seems to make sense is a fringe
area antenna. With this antenna being highly directional for TV- I
mainly want to use it for shortwave........would I still need a rotor?
I know I'd need one for TV- but it wouldn't matter for shortwave-
would it?
TIA for the responses- it's an awfully nice and imposing antenna not
to be used. ;-)

Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

In article
,
BCBlazysusan wrote:

Hey Steve/RHF/Telamon- thanks for the responses.
I'll try an clear up what I said earlier. I just refered to a Radio
Shack antenna selection/installation and projects book. I couldn't
find an actual pic of it- they have folded dipole/yagi/stacked arrays/
multi elements/log periodic/conical arrays etc. It is not a satellite
dish. It is a parabolic circular shape antenna. There is no meshing or
anything like that but it does resemble one (dish) just for the fact
that it is in the shape of a big perfect circle.

I messed up earlier and left something out of the specs. It has 24
elements with 4" spacing between each one. If the antenna was up in
the air those elements are all horizontal with the longest element
being the one in the middle and it's 7 1/2 ft. in length. The other
elements get gradually smaller as you are going either up or down.
From the bottom of the circle to the top is exactly 7 ft. in height.
Coming directly from the middle of the circle straight forward are 8
smaller elements plus a little bow tie looking UHF {?} antenna. Can
you picture this Steve- RHF-Telamon? After reading up on different
antennas the closest description that seems to make sense is a fringe
area antenna. With this antenna being highly directional for TV- I
mainly want to use it for shortwave........would I still need a rotor?
I know I'd need one for TV- but it wouldn't matter for shortwave-
would it?
TIA for the responses- it's an awfully nice and imposing antenna not
to be used. ;-)

It is a big antenna for TV but a small one for short wave so at the same
time that it would not pick up much of a signal in the SW band, if you
happen to point it at a TV transmitter antenna, it could generate a very
large signal in the TV band. This would not be good for your SW radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Using the Big Ugly Dish as a Shortwave Radio Antenna - [Was :Ping RHF/Steve etc.]
 

=IF= You want to Try Receiving the Ku and C Band with
one of these GREAT : Otherwise spend your time and
Money on a Real Shortwave Antenna that is designed
to pick-up and Receive Shortwave Radio Signals 1.8 MHz
to 30 MHz and not Signals in the Giga Hertz (GHz) Range.

Shortwave Antennas -webpage- Universal-Radio.Comhttp://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant.html

hope this helps - iane ~ RHF


Got plenty of real shortwave antennas RHF- always for some reason
wanted a big ole' antenna that I could control from inside the house.
I'll see how it goes.

Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

On Jul 3, 8:39*pm, BCBlazysusan wrote:
Hey Steve/RHF/Telamon- thanks for the responses.
I'll try an clear up what I said earlier. I just refered to a Radio
Shack antenna selection/installation and projects book. I couldn't
find an actual pic of it- they have folded dipole/yagi/stacked arrays/
multi elements/log periodic/conical arrays etc. It is not a satellite
dish. It is a parabolic circular shape antenna. There is no meshing or
anything like that but it does resemble one (dish) just for the fact
that it is in the shape of a big perfect circle.

I messed up earlier and left something out of the specs. It has 24
elements with 4" spacing between each one. If the antenna was up in
the air those elements are all horizontal with the longest element
being the one in the middle and it's 7 1/2 ft. in length. The other
elements get gradually smaller as you are going either up or down.
From the bottom of the circle to the top is exactly 7 ft. in height.
Coming directly from the middle of the circle straight forward are 8
smaller elements plus a little bow tie looking UHF {?} antenna. Can
you picture this Steve- RHF-Telamon? After reading up on different
antennas the closest description that seems to make sense is a fringe
area antenna. With this antenna being highly directional for TV- I
mainly want to use it for shortwave........would I still need a rotor?
I know I'd need one for TV- but it wouldn't matter for shortwave-
would it?
TIA for the responses- it's an awfully nice and imposing antenna not
to be used. ;-)

BCB Lazy Susan,

What about the Channel Master 4251 Antenna ?
http://www.rocketroberts.com/cm4251/...1_brochure.jpg
http://www.rocketroberts.com/cm4251/cm4251.htm

Also take a look at some of these UHF Yagi type
http://www.starkelectronic.com/uhf.htm
Antennas for Fringe Area Reception.

~ RHF

Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

BCBlazysusan wrote:

Hey Steve/RHF/Telamon- thanks for the responses.
I'll try an clear up what I said earlier. I just refered to a Radio
Shack antenna selection/installation and projects book. I couldn't
find an actual pic of it- they have folded dipole/yagi/stacked arrays/
multi elements/log periodic/conical arrays etc. It is not a satellite
dish. It is a parabolic circular shape antenna. There is no meshing or
anything like that but it does resemble one (dish) just for the fact
that it is in the shape of a big perfect circle.

I messed up earlier and left something out of the specs. It has 24
elements with 4" spacing between each one. If the antenna was up in
the air those elements are all horizontal with the longest element
being the one in the middle and it's 7 1/2 ft. in length. The other
elements get gradually smaller as you are going either up or down.
From the bottom of the circle to the top is exactly 7 ft. in height.
Coming directly from the middle of the circle straight forward are 8
smaller elements plus a little bow tie looking UHF {?} antenna. Can
you picture this Steve- RHF-Telamon? After reading up on different
antennas the closest description that seems to make sense is a fringe
area antenna. With this antenna being highly directional for TV- I
mainly want to use it for shortwave........would I still need a rotor?
I know I'd need one for TV- but it wouldn't matter for shortwave-
would it?
TIA for the responses- it's an awfully nice and imposing antenna not
to be used. ;-)

As I may have said before I used to see a lot of those, seemed to me down in
Indiana. As I remember they were most likely as you said for fringe area
reception.

I don't really recall seeing any up here in Michigan, but they sure seemed
popular down in Indiana.

Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

On Jul 4, 12:08*am, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





*BCBlazysusan wrote:
HeySteve/RHF/Telamon- thanks for the responses.
I'll try an clear up what I said earlier. I just refered to a Radio
Shack antenna selection/installation and projects book. I couldn't
find an actual pic of it- they have folded dipole/yagi/stacked arrays/
multi elements/log periodic/conical arrays etc. It is not a satellite
dish. It is a parabolic circular shape antenna. There is no meshing or
anything like that but it does resemble one (dish) just for the fact
that it is in the shape of a big perfect circle.

I messed up earlier and left something out of the specs. It has 24
elements with 4" spacing between each one. If the antenna was up in
the air those elements are all horizontal with the longest element
being the one in the middle and it's 7 1/2 ft. in length. The other
elements get gradually smaller as you are going either up or down.
From the bottom of the circle to the top is exactly 7 ft. in height.
Coming directly from the middle of the circle straight forward are 8
smaller elements plus a little bow tie looking UHF {?} antenna. Can
you picture thisSteve- RHF-Telamon? After reading up on different
antennas the closest description that seems to make sense is a fringe
area antenna. With this antenna being highly directional for TV- I
mainly want to use it for shortwave........would I still need a rotor?
I know I'd need one for TV- but it wouldn't matter for shortwave-
would it?
TIA for the responses- it's an awfully nice and imposing antenna not
to be used. ;-)

It is a big antenna for TV but a small one for short wave so at the same
time that it would not pick up much of a signal in the SW band, if you
happen to point it at a TV transmitter antenna, it could generate a very
large signal in the TV band. This would not be good for your SW radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for the response Telamon. You're probably right, we'll see. I
definitely want to see it in the air and see what it's capapble of. I
have satellite so I don't really need for my everyday tv use- it'll be
fun when I do it though. :-)

Ping RHF/Steve etc.
 

On Jul 4, 2:40*am, RHF wrote:
On Jul 3, 8:39*pm, BCBlazysusan wrote:





HeySteve/RHF/Telamon- thanks for the responses.
I'll try an clear up what I said earlier. I just refered to a Radio
Shack antenna selection/installation and projects book. I couldn't
find an actual pic of it- they have folded dipole/yagi/stacked arrays/
multi elements/log periodic/conical arrays etc. It is not a satellite
dish. It is a parabolic circular shape antenna. There is no meshing or
anything like that but it does resemble one (dish) just for the fact
that it is in the shape of a big perfect circle.

I messed up earlier and left something out of the specs. It has 24
elements with 4" spacing between each one. If the antenna was up in
the air those elements are all horizontal with the longest element
being the one in the middle and it's 7 1/2 ft. in length. The other
elements get gradually smaller as you are going either up or down.
From the bottom of the circle to the top is exactly 7 ft. in height.
Coming directly from the middle of the circle straight forward are 8
smaller elements plus a little bow tie looking UHF {?} antenna. Can
you picture thisSteve- RHF-Telamon? After reading up on different
antennas the closest description that seems to make sense is a fringe
area antenna. With this antenna being highly directional for TV- I
mainly want to use it for shortwave........would I still need a rotor?
I know I'd need one for TV- but it wouldn't matter for shortwave-
would it?
TIA for the responses- it's an awfully nice and imposing antenna not
to be used. ;-)

BCB Lazy Susan,

What about the Channel Master 4251 Antenna ?http://www.rocketroberts.com/cm4251/...251/cm4251.htm

Also take a look at some of these UHF Yagi typehttp://www.starkelectronic..com/uhf.htm
Antennas for Fringe Area Reception.

~ RHF
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

RHF!!!!!!!!!!!! That is it..........the second link. The Channel
Master tribute page. Put it this way, that looks exactly like it, I
haven't found anything even close to it before. Thanks guys for your
help- Ace-Telamon. :-) Wow I have a ChannelMaster!