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Tex wrote:

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush signed a bill Thursday that grants
immunity to telecommunications companies that helped the U.S.
government spy on Americans without warrants.

Bush said the 9/11 attack "changed our country forever" and the
government must know who Americans are talking to and what they are
saying.

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution get in
the way of government fascism.

The corporations that rule this nation are now "legally" protected
from billions of dollars in law suits from the American citizens whose
constitutonal rights they violated.

Yet another example that America has the best government money can
buy!

If any of you still buys into the phony Democrat/Republican, Right/
Left, Liberal/CONservative, One Man/One Vote, paradigm that has been
so tirelessly jammed down the public's throat please seek psychiatric
help because you are dangerously delusional. The America we all once
loved is dead - murdered by the greedy elite and their sock puppets -
corrupt politicians.

George Carlin nails it - THEY DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT YOU! IT A CLUB
AND YOU AREN'T IN IT! THEY DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT YOU!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqJvhmD5Yg

Maybe George only nailed it for you, and others who share your beliefs. He
didn't necessarily nail it for everyone!

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dxAce wrote:

Tex wrote:

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush signed a bill Thursday that grants
immunity to telecommunications companies that helped the U.S.
government spy on Americans without warrants.

Bush said the 9/11 attack "changed our country forever" and the
government must know who Americans are talking to and what they are
saying.

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution get in
the way of government fascism.

The corporations that rule this nation are now "legally" protected
from billions of dollars in law suits from the American citizens whose
constitutonal rights they violated.

Yet another example that America has the best government money can
buy!

If any of you still buys into the phony Democrat/Republican, Right/
Left, Liberal/CONservative, One Man/One Vote, paradigm that has been
so tirelessly jammed down the public's throat please seek psychiatric
help because you are dangerously delusional. The America we all once
loved is dead - murdered by the greedy elite and their sock puppets -
corrupt politicians.

George Carlin nails it - THEY DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT YOU! IT A CLUB
AND YOU AREN'T IN IT! THEY DON'T GIVE A **** ABOUT YOU!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMqJvhmD5Yg

Maybe George only nailed it for you, and others who share your beliefs. He
didn't necessarily nail it for everyone!

Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh, whom you
consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the late George Carlin
who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.

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dxAce wrote:

Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh, whom you
consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the late George Carlin
who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.


George Carlin spoke truth to power. Mr. Limbaugh speaks on behalf of
power. Big difference.

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Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh, whom you
consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the late George Carlin
who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.


George Carlin spoke truth to power. Mr. Limbaugh speaks on behalf of
power. Big difference.

Rickets, you speak on behalf of the addled!

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh, whom you
consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the late George Carlin
who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.

George Carlin spoke truth to power. Mr. Limbaugh speaks on behalf of
power. Big difference.

Rickets, you speak on behalf of the addled!


That doesn't change the veracity of my previous statement.

(BTW: Einstein and Edison were both thought to be "addled", so I will
wear that as a compliment).

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Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh, whom you
consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the late George Carlin
who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.

George Carlin spoke truth to power. Mr. Limbaugh speaks on behalf of
power. Big difference.

Rickets, you speak on behalf of the addled!


That doesn't change the veracity of my previous statement.

Doesn't change the veracity of mine either, oh addled one!

(BTW: Einstein and Edison were both thought to be "addled", so I will
wear that as a compliment).

Over your pink panties?

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

On Jul 11, 5:42*am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh, whom you
consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the late George Carlin
who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.

- George Carlin spoke truth to power.

Spoke Truth to Empowerment
{ Transformational Knowledge }

-*Mr. Limbaugh speaks on behalf of power.

Speaks on Behalf of Powerful Ideas and Ideals.
{ Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values }

- Big difference.

Really Big Differences ~ RHF

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:47:39 -0700, RHF wrote:

On Jul 11, 5:42Â*am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh,
whom you consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the
late George Carlin who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.

- George Carlin spoke truth to power.

Spoke Truth to Empowerment
{ Transformational Knowledge }

-Â*Mr. Limbaugh speaks on behalf of power.

Speaks on Behalf of Powerful Ideas and Ideals. { Promoting Time Honored
Truths and Values }

Please list 3 time-honored values that Mr. Limbaugh champions. Please
show how he helps the average person, as opposed to helping the fat cats.

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On Jul 11, 10:34*am, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:47:39 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Jul 11, 5:42*am, Dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:
Another thought: You and others seem to be against Rush Limbaugh,
whom you consider to be merely an 'entertainer', yet you are for the
late George Carlin who was indeed merely an 'entertainer'.

It's all quite interesting.

- George Carlin spoke truth to power.

Spoke Truth to Empowerment
{ Transformational Knowledge }

-*Mr. Limbaugh speaks on behalf of power.

Speaks on Behalf of Powerful Ideas and Ideals. { Promoting Time Honored
Truths and Values }

- Please list 3 *time-honored values that Mr. Limbaugh champions.
-*Please show how he helps the average person,
- as opposed to helping the fat cats.

Dave,

Everyone who aspires to be something at one time or
another dreams of being one of those 'Fat Cats' one day.

Personal Freedom

Personal Responsibility

Listen to Rush on the Radio Three Hours a Day

~ RHF

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"Dave" wrote in message
...

I have never wanted to be a rich asshole;
Too bad, you've excelled as a poor asshole.

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On Jul 11, 1:11*pm, "MNMikeW" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

...

- - I have never wanted to be a rich asshole;

- Too bad, you've excelled as a poor asshole.

ROTFL - oaoa ~ RHF

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:11:26 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...

I have never wanted to be a rich asshole;
Too bad, you've excelled as a poor asshole.

I do it for sport.

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On Jul 11, 4:55*pm, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:11:26 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...

- - - I have never wanted to be a rich asshole;

- - Too bad, you've excelled as a poor asshole.

- I do it for sport.

Dave -wrt- "Asshole" Sport ~ Game :
Dang We Got A Winner ! ~ RHF

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On Jul 11, 6:18*pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:55 pm, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:11:26 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...

- - - I have never wanted to be a rich asshole;

- - Too bad, you've excelled as a poor asshole.

- I do it for sport.

Dave -wrt- "Asshole" Sport ~ Game :
Dang We Got A Winner ! ~ RHF
*.

- Still waiting for you to define "personal freedom"...

Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_l...t_of_happiness

Personal Freedom . . .
http://www.pbs.org/jefferson/enlight/person.htm

The Freedom to Be Yourself {Self-Defining}
and Allowing Others To Do the Same for Themselves
http://www.amazon.com/Choice-Theory-.../dp/0060930144

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RHF wrote:

- Still waiting for you to define "personal freedom"...


Personal Freedom . . .
http://www.pbs.org/jefferson/enlight/person.htm

From your link:

"Yet all Jefferson's happiness at Monticello, his whole "art of avoiding
pain," came at the cost of inflicting pain on others - the pain of
slavery. Slaves built Jefferson's home and rebuilt it. Slaves cultivated
his gardens and fields. Slaves cared for his grandchildren and served
his friends. Jefferson owned slaves throughout his life, kept a slave
beside him as he wrote the Declaration of Independence, brought slaves
to Washington as he restored democracy to American government. While
other Virginians freed their slaves, Jefferson remained a slaveholder to
his death. Slaves even dug his grave."

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

On Jul 12, 6:21*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
- Still waiting for you to define "personal freedom"...

Personal Freedom . . .
http://www.pbs.org/jefferson/enlight/person.htm

*From your link:

"Yet all Jefferson's happiness at Monticello, his whole "art of avoiding
pain," came at the cost of inflicting pain on others - the pain of
slavery. Slaves built Jefferson's home and rebuilt it. Slaves cultivated
his gardens and fields. Slaves cared for his grandchildren and served
his friends. Jefferson owned slaves throughout his life, kept a slave
beside him as he wrote the Declaration of Independence, brought slaves
to Washington as he restored democracy to American government. While
other Virginians freed their slaves, Jefferson remained a slaveholder to
his death. Slaves even dug his grave."

Dave,

I would imagine that you would have fit-in as a
Jim Dandy "Overseer" during Jefferson's Time.

a fine example of a 'cracker' ~ RHF

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 6:21 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
- Still waiting for you to define "personal freedom"...
Personal Freedom . . .
http://www.pbs.org/jefferson/enlight/person.htm
From your link:

"Yet all Jefferson's happiness at Monticello, his whole "art of avoiding
pain," came at the cost of inflicting pain on others - the pain of
slavery. Slaves built Jefferson's home and rebuilt it. Slaves cultivated
his gardens and fields. Slaves cared for his grandchildren and served
his friends. Jefferson owned slaves throughout his life, kept a slave
beside him as he wrote the Declaration of Independence, brought slaves
to Washington as he restored democracy to American government. While
other Virginians freed their slaves, Jefferson remained a slaveholder to
his death. Slaves even dug his grave."

Dave,

I would imagine that you would have fit-in as a
Jim Dandy "Overseer" during Jefferson's Time.

a fine example of a 'cracker' ~ RHF
.
-ps- Why way back then even Barack Hussein Obama II
had some relatives that 'owned' Slaves.
{It's All Part of American History}
.
So "personal freedom" as a virtue is pure BS, isn't it?

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

On Jul 12, 11:58*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 6:21 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
- Still waiting for you to define "personal freedom"...
Personal Freedom . . .
http://www.pbs.org/jefferson/enlight/person.htm
*From your link:

"Yet all Jefferson's happiness at Monticello, his whole "art of avoiding
pain," came at the cost of inflicting pain on others - the pain of
slavery. Slaves built Jefferson's home and rebuilt it. Slaves cultivated
his gardens and fields. Slaves cared for his grandchildren and served
his friends. Jefferson owned slaves throughout his life, kept a slave
beside him as he wrote the Declaration of Independence, brought slaves
to Washington as he restored democracy to American government. While
other Virginians freed their slaves, Jefferson remained a slaveholder to
his death. Slaves even dug his grave."

Dave,

I would imagine that you would have fit-in as a
Jim Dandy "Overseer" during Jefferson's Time.

a fine example of a 'cracker' ~ RHF
*.
-ps- Why way back then even Barack Hussein Obama II
had some relatives that 'owned' Slaves.
{It's All Part of American History}
*.

- So "personal freedom" as a virtue is pure BS, isn't it?

Dave - That would be a "No" {BS} ~ RHF

Dave "My" Personal Freedom . . .
The Freedom to Be Yourself {Self-Defining} -and-
Allowing Others To Do the Same for Themselves

Is clearly 'founded' in the All American Idea of
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_l...t_of_happiness

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

D Peter Maus wrote:


Well, if they're not subjects of a despot, and they're not free to
express liberty at will, then who holds the golden chains?

Freedom from despotism without the free expression of liberty is not
liberty.

No matter who holds the chains.


"Express liberty"? How does one "express liberty"? What does "free"
mean? How is different than chaos? There's your answer.

We are free to make rules.

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Well, if they're not subjects of a despot, and they're not free to
express liberty at will, then who holds the golden chains?

Freedom from despotism without the free expression of liberty is not
liberty.

No matter who holds the chains.


"Express liberty"? How does one "express liberty"? What does "free"
mean? How is different than chaos? There's your answer.

We are free to make rules.




So Liberty is living free under anyone who is you.

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

D Peter Maus wrote:

So Liberty is living free under anyone who is you.

?




mike

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On Jul 12, 5:20*pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:58 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 6:21 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
- Still waiting for you to define "personal freedom"...
Personal Freedom . . .
http://www.pbs.org/jefferson/enlight/person.htm
*From your link:
"Yet all Jefferson's happiness at Monticello, his whole "art of avoiding
pain," came at the cost of inflicting pain on others - the pain of
slavery. Slaves built Jefferson's home and rebuilt it. Slaves cultivated
his gardens and fields. Slaves cared for his grandchildren and served
his friends. Jefferson owned slaves throughout his life, kept a slave
beside him as he wrote the Declaration of Independence, brought slaves
to Washington as he restored democracy to American government. While
other Virginians freed their slaves, Jefferson remained a slaveholder to
his death. Slaves even dug his grave."
Dave,
I would imagine that you would have fit-in as a
Jim Dandy "Overseer" during Jefferson's Time.
a fine example of a 'cracker' ~ RHF
*.
-ps- Why way back then even Barack Hussein Obama II
had some relatives that 'owned' Slaves.
{It's All Part of American History}
*.

- So "personal freedom" as a virtue is pure BS, isn't it?

Dave - That would be a "No" {BS} ~ RHF

Dave "My" Personal Freedom . . .
The Freedom to Be Yourself {Self-Defining} -and-
Allowing Others To Do the Same for Themselves

- That's gibberish.

Dave - My Personal Freedom of Though and Expression
is what you define as 'gibberish'.

- Liberty refers to the people not being subjects
- of a king or other despotic rule.

Dave may be that was the 'limited' definition in the 1700s
but it has evolved far beyond that now.

-*You seem to think it's some form of
- personal license to do whatever you want.

Dave "My" Personal Freedom . . .
The Freedom to Be Yourself {Self-Defining} -and-
Allowing Others To Do the Same for Themselves
My Politics {Voting For} & Your Politics {Voting Against}
My Religion & Your Non-Belief
My Freedom of Speech & Your Freedom Not To Listen
My Freedom of Association & Your Freedom Not to Join
YES - "Perfect Liberty" for a Society is Founded
in Individual Rights of Each of It's Citizens.

Once Again 'founded' in the All American Idea
of : Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_l...t_of_happiness

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Well, if they're not subjects of a despot, and they're not free to
express liberty at will, then who holds the golden chains?

Freedom from despotism without the free expression of liberty is
not liberty.

No matter who holds the chains.


"Express liberty"? How does one "express liberty"? What does "free"
mean? How is different than chaos? There's your answer.

We are free to make rules.




So Liberty is living free under anyone who is you.

No. It is anarchy tempered by rules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

RHF wrote:

Dave "My" Personal Freedom . . .
The Freedom to Be Yourself {Self-Defining} -and-
Allowing Others To Do the Same for Themselves
My Politics {Voting For} & Your Politics {Voting Against}
My Religion & Your Non-Belief
My Freedom of Speech & Your Freedom Not To Listen
My Freedom of Association & Your Freedom Not to Join
YES - "Perfect Liberty" for a Society is Founded
in Individual Rights of Each of It's Citizens.

More gibberish. You say "rights" but say nothing about
"responsibilities", which limit "rights"; thus your "freedom" is not
absolute, except in a state of anarchy where everyone has rights but no
one has responsibilities.

http://www.iiipublishing.com/afd/santaclara.html

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

On Jul 13, 6:01*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
Dave "My" Personal Freedom . . .
The Freedom to Be Yourself {Self-Defining} -and-
Allowing Others To Do the Same for Themselves
My Politics {Voting For} & Your Politics {Voting Against}
My Religion & Your Non-Belief
My Freedom of Speech & Your Freedom Not To Listen
My Freedom of Association & Your Freedom Not to Join
YES - "Perfect Liberty" for a Society is Founded
in Individual Rights of Each of It's Citizens.

- More gibberish.
-*You say "rights" but say nothing about "responsibilities",
- which limit "rights"; *thus your "freedom" is not absolute,
- except in a state of anarchy where everyone has rights
- but no one has responsibilities.
-
- http://www.iiipublishing.com/afd/santaclara.html

Dave - You have the Right to Reply in a Responsible Manner.

and that's no gibberish - thank you ~ RHF

(OT) : Rush Limbaugh - Promoting Time Honored Truths and Values
 

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Well, if they're not subjects of a despot, and they're not free to
express liberty at will, then who holds the golden chains?

Freedom from despotism without the free expression of liberty is
not liberty.

No matter who holds the chains.


"Express liberty"? How does one "express liberty"? What does "free"
mean? How is different than chaos? There's your answer.

We are free to make rules.




So Liberty is living free under anyone who is you.

No. It is anarchy tempered by rules.



Whose rules, sweetheart. Yours?

Idon'tthinkso.

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RHF wrote:

Once Again 'founded' in the All American Idea
of : Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness


http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2001/br...rks/elian2.gif



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On Jul 13, 11:12*pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
Once Again 'founded' in the All American Idea
of : Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

- http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2001/br...aphy/works/eli...

That Photo would be an 'example' of Democrat Party
Freedom under Bill Clinton and JaNut Reno.


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