On Aug 9, 3:33*pm, KaitoWRX911 wrote:
On Aug 9, 2:45 pm, Tom wrote:





On Aug 9, 8:14 am, KaitoWRX911 wrote:

The drm.org site is all but dead:

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/drm.org/?metric=uv

The "Compete" site provides statistics for only US traffic on websites
so it completely misses the rest of the world. Since US domestic
digital broadcasting is something other than DRM, US traffic to
drm.org might reasonably be expected to be lower than from those parts
of the world where DRM is actively being considered.

It might be reasonable to assume that most of the US traffic to
drm.org is by shortwave listeners. SW listening is in such decline in
the US that it is also not surprising that the stats are low. However,
US visitors to drm.org for July/2008 number about 13% of the number of
US visitors towww.primetimeshortwave.com, a not insignificant
proportion.

How meaningful any of these stats might be is moot. I don't see how
you can draw your conclusion from them. Neither can I see any grounds
for thinking that DRM is growing out of its infancy.

"It might be reasonable to assume that most of the US traffic to
drm.org is by shortwave listeners. SW listening is in such decline in
the US that it is also not surprising that the stats are low. However,
US visitors to drm.org for July/2008 number about 13% of the number of
US visitors towww.primetimeshortwave.com, a not insignificant
proportion."

Who are you kidding - there were only 300 US visitors to drm.org in
July. A whopping 2,500 visitors to primetimeshortwave in July is not
an "insignificant" number - right! And only 1,000,000 3G iPhones sold
in the first eekend! *I love it! *All digital radio is a farce!

"Digital Radio Wobbles Around the World'

"But perhaps the most important thing I learned at the Budapest
workshop is that many established countries, which settled upon
digital radio transition plans many years before the U.S. did, are now
rethinking their own initiatives. The problem is not inherent to any
specific technology; it's due to the fact that no digital radio
protocol exists which does things that citizen-consumers see as
important enough to upgrade their receivers for."

http://diymedia.net/archive/0608.htm#062308

I am definately going to start that Deceptive Radio Mondiale blog!- Hide quoted text -

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You do that! BTW, you misinterpreted my post which merely argues that
you cannot draw any of your conclusions from the statistics you had
presented. Your conclusion is better supported by the quote you cited
- I hold much the same opinion. The additional stats you link to do
show a downward trend in interest in shortwave schedules from which
one might infer a parallel trend in SW listening. They also indicate
an upward trend and then a plateau in accesses to hdradio.com, a non-
DRM technology and a website that provides no listening services which
you then juxtapose to sites that do provide streaming services. Talk
about apples, oranges and grapes! Your point can and should be better
made by citing more appropriate and relevant sources than by using
this scatter-gun method.