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[email protected] September 2nd 08 06:34 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
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Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.
cuhulin


m II September 2nd 08 09:27 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
wrote:

Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.



I hope Edison and Westinghouse are turning in their graves. They both
screwed Tesla out of Billions.



mike

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m II September 2nd 08 09:44 PM

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Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.


I've read it was on July 9.

What calendar do you use in Mississippi? Check out the new Gregorian
version. It helps bring the dates and the seasons back together.



mike


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[email protected] September 2nd 08 10:41 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
Our Mississippi calendars are two months late.I have a Scottish Field
calendar that married Irish woman wayyyyy over yonder across the big
pond snail mailed to me in 2000. www.scottishcalendars.com
cuhulin


D Peter Maus September 2nd 08 10:46 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
m II wrote:
wrote:

Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.



I hope Edison and Westinghouse are turning in their graves. They both
screwed Tesla out of Billions.



mike



So did Marconi.


Frank Dresser September 3rd 08 07:38 AM

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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
m II wrote:
wrote:

Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.



I hope Edison and Westinghouse are turning in their graves. They both
screwed Tesla out of Billions.



mike



So did Marconi.


Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio? His broadcast power
silliness, with it's inefficency and harmonics , would have killed any
possibility of broadcast radio.

I wonder how Tesla's work would have been different if his first great
rivalry had been with Marconi rather than Edison.

Frank Dresser



Billy Burpelson[_2_] September 3rd 08 12:40 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
m II wrote:
wrote:

Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.

I hope Edison and Westinghouse are turning in their graves. They both
screwed Tesla out of Billions.



mike


So did Marconi.


Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?


Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The case
was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...

From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla] as being the inventor of the radio.


D Peter Maus September 3rd 08 01:23 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
Billy Burpelson wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
m II wrote:
wrote:

Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.

I hope Edison and Westinghouse are turning in their graves. They both
screwed Tesla out of Billions.



mike


So did Marconi.


Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?


Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The case
was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...



Actually, Billy, that one was mine. :)



From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla]
as being the inventor of the radio.


m II September 3rd 08 04:15 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio? His broadcast power
silliness, with it's inefficency and harmonics , would have killed any
possibility of broadcast radio.


The sparking would have stopped after an equilibrium was reached. The
investors thought that consumption metering would be a problem, so
financing was stopped.

======================================
As early as 1892, Nikola Tesla created a basic design for radio. On
November 8, 1898 he patented a radio controlled robot-boat. Tesla used
this boat which was controlled by radio waves in the Electrical
Exhibition in 1898, Madison Square Garden.
http://www.teslasociety.com/radio.htm
======================================


I wonder how Tesla's work would have been different if his first great
rivalry had been with Marconi rather than Edison.



It was. There were really bad irregularities at the patent office.
Marconi had connections. Roughly forty years alter, thing were turned
around.

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A majority of the Court found, after tracing the lineage of radio
through Maxwell, Hertz, Lodge, Tesla, and Crookes, the basic Marconi
patent (No. 763,772, filed Nov. 1900) used nothing not already included
in Tesla's earlier patent No. 645,576 (filed Sept. 1897), except for the
presence in Marconi's design of an inductively tuneable antenna. (And
the antenna element under discussion-Lodge's patent, No. 609,104-was
bought from Lodge by Marconi.) The Court went on to note that Stone's
radio patent (No. 714,756) completely anticipated Marconi's, antenna
included. Stone, by the way, had always credited Tesla with the first
basic, workable design, saying of his own patent it was "practically the
same as that employed by Tesla" –but with the valuable refinements of a
tuneable antenna and design adjustments to "swamp" parasitic
oscillations in the transmitter.

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/tesla.htm
=============================================

================
Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) was the genius who lit the world,
whose discoveries in the field of alternating polyphase current
electricity advanced the United States and the rest of the world
into the modern industrial era.

Nikola Tesla had 700 patents in the US and Europe. Tesla's
discoveries include the Tesla Coil, fluorescent light,
Tesla Statue wireless transmission of electrical energy,
radio, remote control, discovery of cosmic radio waves
and use of ionosphere for scientific purposes.

http://www.teslasociety.com/
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KC0YEF September 3rd 08 04:29 PM

He was using the Burger King Calendar while following the Angus Diet - just enjoy life. Do whatever you want. Eat whatever you want as long as it makes you
Have a Happy whomever's day Celebrating whatever day


Tesla is the greatest inventor that God ever gave a brain ever!

D Peter Maus September 3rd 08 04:39 PM

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m II wrote:


I wonder how Tesla's work would have been different if his first great
rivalry had been with Marconi rather than Edison.



It was. There were really bad irregularities at the patent office.
Marconi had connections. Roughly forty years alter, thing were turned
around.


The patent process was and still is rife with loopholes that
almost encourage abuse.

A.G. Bell beat Elisha Gray (who ironically founded Western
Electric and ran it during the rise of AT&T) to the patent on the
telephone through a technicality.

Gray actually had a working model first. And had the first filing.

Bell's project borrowed liberally from Gray.

(When I worked at AT&T, it was a cardinal sin to mention Gray's
name. We were all shown "The Alexander Graham Bell Story." A film
with huge historical inaccuracies regarding the invention of the
telephone. A film for which Alexander Graham Bell's daughter, Mrs.
Gilbert Grosvenor, had official script approval. The film was also
funded with huge help from AT&T.)

Vladimir Zworykin had actually visited Philo Farnsworth' lab and
translated whole technologies to his own Sarnoff funded project for
the development of Television. And with the aid of Sarnoff's
lawyers, landed the patent.

As with Tesla, Farnsworth's estate was eventually vindicated by
the courts, and Farnsworth was posthumously named the inventor of
Television.


[email protected] September 3rd 08 05:41 PM

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Don't forget Nathan Stubblefield, and his wireless telephone.
www.nathanstubblefield.com/contents.html
cuhulin


Billy Burpelson[_2_] September 3rd 08 07:37 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
D Peter Maus wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
m II wrote:
wrote:

Happy Birthday, Nikola Tesla.

I hope Edison and Westinghouse are turning in their graves. They both
screwed Tesla out of Billions.



mike


So did Marconi.


Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?


Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The
case was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...



Actually, Billy, that one was mine. :)


Right you are! You'll notice that your name is included in my posting. I
cut and pasted to the wrong place. My humblest apologies to you and Mr.
Dresser... ;-)


From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla]
as being the inventor of the radio.


Frank Dresser September 3rd 08 09:52 PM

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"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...


Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?


Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The case
was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...

From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla] as

being the inventor of the radio.



The Supreme Court can get it wrong. They also asserted that Lee de Forest
invented the regenerative detector.

But what is radio? Is it just tuned circuits or is it the transmission of
intelligence using radio waves? As far as I know, Nikola Tesla didn't have
much more interest in the communication potential for radio than Tom Edison
had in the "Edison Effect".

And, lets not forget that Heinrich Hertz's experimental apparatus could have
also been used to transmit information with radio waves.

But, I'm sure we can all agree it was a good thing for radio that the
broadcast power scheme failed.

Frank Dresser



D Peter Maus September 3rd 08 10:06 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
Frank Dresser wrote:
"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...

Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?

Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The case
was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...

From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla] as

being the inventor of the radio.



The Supreme Court can get it wrong. They also asserted that Lee de Forest
invented the regenerative detector.

But what is radio? Is it just tuned circuits or is it the transmission of
intelligence using radio waves? As far as I know, Nikola Tesla didn't have
much more interest in the communication potential for radio than Tom Edison
had in the "Edison Effect".

And, lets not forget that Heinrich Hertz's experimental apparatus could have
also been used to transmit information with radio waves.

But, I'm sure we can all agree it was a good thing for radio that the
broadcast power scheme failed.

Frank Dresser


I don't know, Frank...it may have rid us of a number of those
wearing tinfoil hats. :)



Telamon September 4th 08 02:55 AM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...


Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?


Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The case
was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...

From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla] as

being the inventor of the radio.



The Supreme Court can get it wrong. They also asserted that Lee de Forest
invented the regenerative detector.

But what is radio? Is it just tuned circuits or is it the transmission of
intelligence using radio waves? As far as I know, Nikola Tesla didn't have
much more interest in the communication potential for radio than Tom Edison
had in the "Edison Effect".

And, lets not forget that Heinrich Hertz's experimental apparatus could have
also been used to transmit information with radio waves.

But, I'm sure we can all agree it was a good thing for radio that the
broadcast power scheme failed.


Tesla actually the first RC boat and demonstrated it before an audience.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon September 4th 08 03:47 AM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 
In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...


Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?


Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The case
was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...

From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla] as

being the inventor of the radio.



The Supreme Court can get it wrong. They also asserted that Lee de Forest
invented the regenerative detector.

But what is radio? Is it just tuned circuits or is it the transmission of
intelligence using radio waves? As far as I know, Nikola Tesla didn't have
much more interest in the communication potential for radio than Tom Edison
had in the "Edison Effect".


He did have an interest in communications but was more interested in
power transmission.

And, lets not forget that Heinrich Hertz's experimental apparatus could have
also been used to transmit information with radio waves.


Well, Tesla actually transmitted control signals to a boat. The first
remote controlled boat.

But, I'm sure we can all agree it was a good thing for radio that the
broadcast power scheme failed.


No I don't agree.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Frank Dresser September 4th 08 08:39 PM

(OT) Nikola Tesla.The Forgotten Wizard.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Frank Dresser" wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...


Frank Dresser wrote:

Did Tesla have any particular interest in radio?

Nah...he was just the inventor of radio, that's all. See below.

This Supreme Court ruling came out shortly after Tesla's death. The

case
was Tesla vs Marconi (and thus m II's reference above to Marconi)...

From Wikipedia:

In 1943, the Supreme Court of the United States credited him [Tesla]

as
being the inventor of the radio.



The Supreme Court can get it wrong. They also asserted that Lee de

Forest
invented the regenerative detector.

But what is radio? Is it just tuned circuits or is it the transmission

of
intelligence using radio waves? As far as I know, Nikola Tesla didn't

have
much more interest in the communication potential for radio than Tom

Edison
had in the "Edison Effect".


He did have an interest in communications but was more interested in
power transmission.


And that's the question. How much interest did Tesla have in radio
communication? I'm no Tesla expert, but as far as I can tell, the answer is
"not much". At least not much interest when compared to other radio
pioneers who were not only thinking up (or 'borrowing") interesting
technology but also thinking up useful applications for that interesting
technology. .


And, lets not forget that Heinrich Hertz's experimental apparatus could

have
also been used to transmit information with radio waves.


Well, Tesla actually transmitted control signals to a boat. The first
remote controlled boat.


Sure, and if Tesla had devised a system to telegraph messages between boats
and ships and shore stations then we never would have heard of Marconi. Had
Tesla taken an interest, he might have invented that early 1900s chain of
stations to track severe weather. As it was, Tesla's boat fixed a problem
nobody had.


But, I'm sure we can all agree it was a good thing for radio that the
broadcast power scheme failed.


No I don't agree.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Broadcast power would have been RFI hell.

Frank Dresser



[email protected] September 4th 08 08:53 PM

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Nikola Tesla rigged up a car, (Pierce Arrow car, whatever it was?) and
he ran that car for at least a minute or two on ''free power'' I think
that car was getting power from that tower in Long Island, somewhere
around there.It wasen't real free power.
cuhulin



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