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(OT) : Boycott "The Oprah Winfrey
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(OT) : Boycott "The Oprah Winfrey Show" : Call Her Sponsors -Tell Them We Want Sarah Palin Now !
On Sep 8, 5:43*pm, RHF wrote:
Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers* * The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ? No she doesn't. She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like any other talk show. If a conservative talk show guy/gal just wants McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business. Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? Is that hers? Anybody can watch or avoid her show. I don't think her program amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares? This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus. Bruce Jensen |
(OT) : Boycott "The Oprah Winfrey Show" : Call Her Sponsors -Tell Them We Want Sarah Palin Now !
bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote: Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers* * The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ? No she doesn't. She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like any other talk show. If a conservative talk show guy/gal just wants McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business. Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she DOES have a duty and responsibility. Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? Is that hers? Yes, actually it is. Anybody can watch or avoid her show. I don't think her program amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares? This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus. She does have considerable influence. Whether or not she can swing an election among female voters is a legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election of Abraham Lincoln. Bruce Jensen |
(OT) : The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin whileWhite Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can !
On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
-snip- - - Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers? -*Yes, actually it is. -*She does have considerable influence. Whether or not - she can swing an election among female voters is a - legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, - or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' - - Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. - Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly - to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election - of Abraham Lincoln. Bad News for Oprah . . . White Women Voters are moving from Obama-Biden to McCain-Palin by a 20 Point Shift. http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Po...5751238&page=1 The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin while White Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can ! * Sarah Palin and White, Married Women which is the majority of Oprah Winfrey's TV Viewers http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/200...ied-women.html * Did Sarah Palin give John "Smiley" McCain a Big Boost with Women Voters ? - YEAH ! http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../International * Women Voters Flocking to John "Smiley" McCain the Sarah Palin VP Factor is Real http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...es-924513.html * Poll shows big shift to McCain among white women http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...SN097920080909 * Barack Obama and the White Women Vote - Democrats Just Don't Win That Group any more . . http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...hat-group.html * Sarah Palin, White Women Voters & The Phenomenon of Identity Politics Identity Politics Bites the Democrats in the Ass's Ass http://boatangdemetriou.wordpress.co...tity-politics/ |
(OT) : The Dumping of Joe Biden from the Ticket : Obama / CLINTON Now! {Change Is Good}
On Sep 10, 12:36*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote: -snip- - - Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers? -*Yes, actually it is. -*She does have considerable influence. Whether or not - she can swing an election among female voters is a - legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, - or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' - - Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. - Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly - to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election - of Abraham Lincoln. Bad News for Oprah . . . White Women Voters are moving from Obama-Biden to McCain-Palin by a 20 Point Shift.http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Po...5751238&page=1 The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin while White Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can ! * Sarah Palin and White, Married Women which is the majority of Oprah Winfrey's TV Viewershttp://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-white-mar... * Did Sarah Palin give John "Smiley" McCain a Big Boost with Women Voters ? - YEAH !http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...10.CAMPAIGNWOM... * Women Voters Flocking to John "Smiley" McCain the Sarah Palin VP Factor is Realhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/women-voters-flock-t... * Poll shows big shift to McCain among white womenhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN097920080909 * Barack Obama and the White Women Vote - Democrats Just Don't Win That Group any more . .http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...09/barack-obam... * Sarah Palin, White Women Voters & The Phenomenon of Identity Politics Identity Politics Bites the Democrats in the Ass's Asshttp://boatangdemetriou.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-white-wo... *. (OT) : The Dumping of Joe Biden from the Ticket : Obama/Clinton Now ! |
(OT) : The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin whil...
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(OT) : The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin whil...
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(OT) : The Dumping of Joe Biden from the Ticket : Obama / CLINTONNow ! {Change Is Good}
On Sep 10, 4:56*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 10, 12:36*pm, RHF wrote: On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote: -snip- - - Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers? -*Yes, actually it is. -*She does have considerable influence. Whether or not - she can swing an election among female voters is a - legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, - or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' - - Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. - Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly - to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election - of Abraham Lincoln. Bad News for Oprah . . . White Women Voters are moving from Obama-Biden to McCain-Palin by a 20 Point Shift.http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Po...5751238&page=1 The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin while White Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can ! * Sarah Palin and White, Married Women which is the majority of Oprah Winfrey's TV Viewershttp://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-white-mar... * Did Sarah Palin give John "Smiley" McCain a Big Boost with Women Voters ? - YEAH !http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...10.CAMPAIGNWOM... * Women Voters Flocking to John "Smiley" McCain the Sarah Palin VP Factor is Realhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/women-voters-flock-t... * Poll shows big shift to McCain among white womenhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN097920080909 * Barack Obama and the White Women Vote - Democrats Just Don't Win That Group any more . .http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...09/barack-obam... * Sarah Palin, White Women Voters & The Phenomenon of Identity Politics Identity Politics Bites the Democrats in the Ass's Asshttp://boatangdemetriou.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-white-wo... *. (OT) : The Dumping of Joe Biden from the Ticket : Obama/Clinton Now ! *. Hillary Clinton is More Qualified to be Vice President of the United States - Joe Biden - 10 Sept 2008http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/10/politics/fromtheroad/entry443... Message : Toss Uncle Joe {Biden} From The Train {Campaign} Joe Biden is being 'told' to Bow-Out so that Hillary can 'replace' Him as VP on the Ticket. * Should Obama Dump Biden Now ? ! ?http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/14276 * Dump Bidenhttp://wordpress.com/tag/dump-biden/ * Will Obama Dump Biden Off the Ticket?http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...ent/01125112.g... * "Dump Biden" Movement Set To Take Offhttp://novatownhall.com/2008/09/04/dump-biden-death-watch-commences/ Bet Your Will Be Seeing Her VPness Hillary Clinton The Oprah Winfrey Show ASAP ! Joe Biden : Hillary May Have Been Better VP Pickhttp://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/biden-on-hillary-may-have-... NOTE - This is the same Joe Biden who said publically : "Barack Obama Is Not Ready To Be President."http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/08/23/obama-biden-ticket-obama-no...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Daily KOS -reports- Obama to Dump Biden for Hillary http://openthread.dailykos.com/story...466/554/594401 |
(OT) : Boycott "The Oprah Winfrey Show" : Call Her Sponsors -Tell Them We Want Sarah Palin Now !
On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote: Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers* * The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ? No she doesn't. *She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like any other talk show. *If a *conservative talk show guy/gal just wants McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business. * *Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she DOES have a duty and responsibility. I understand why she would do this, but I am very unclear why declaring herself a NEWS program gives her a duty or responsibility to her viewers, to give equal time to all opposing viewpoints. There are plenty of news programs on both sides that are as lopsided as a one- legged horse. For that matter, there are lots of non-news programs that do likewise, and I doubt they are in violation of McCain-Feingold any less than she might be (emphasis on word "might" - the lawsuits aren't settled yet). Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers? * *Yes, actually it is. Does she say this on her broadcast? If so, that's just silly. I have no intention of watching her to find out, in any case. Anybody can watch or avoid her show. *I don't think her program amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares? This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus. * *She does have considerable influence. Whether or not she can swing an election among female voters is a legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' Whether she thinks she can or not is beside the point. I do not believe she has a significant amount of influence. She is one voice, albeit a loud one, out of hundreds, all of whom clamor for whatever they want you to hear. * *Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election of Abraham Lincoln. You must be referring to Joseph Medill, the predecessor to McCormick in Chicago - Mr. McCormick the elder was far to young to have much effect on Mr. Lincoln's election (he was not yet 12 years old at the first one), and his son Robert was born after Lincoln had been gone 15 years. Bruce Jensen |
(OT) : Boycott "The Oprah Winfrey Show" : Call Her Sponsors -Tell Them We Want Sarah Palin Now !
bpnjensen wrote:
On Sep 9, 5:10 pm, D Peter Maus wrote: bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote: Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers* * The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ? No she doesn't. She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like any other talk show. If a conservative talk show guy/gal just wants McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business. Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she DOES have a duty and responsibility. I understand why she would do this, but I am very unclear why declaring herself a NEWS program gives her a duty or responsibility to her viewers, to give equal time to all opposing viewpoints. There are plenty of news programs on both sides that are as lopsided as a one- legged horse. For that matter, there are lots of non-news programs that do likewise, and I doubt they are in violation of McCain-Feingold any less than she might be (emphasis on word "might" - the lawsuits aren't settled yet). Oprah has made a great issue out of raising her show above the other chat shows that pander to the more or less prurient interests of the public. Springer, Maury, to a lesser extent Montel...and the balance of the banal. Only Oprah has declared herself and her show to be about the higher plain...a higher standard...and she's someone who's gone out of her way, over the years, to bash so called news that has been unfair, unbalanced, or lopsided. Only Oprah has declared herself to be the arbiter of what is mete, right, and salutary, and that we should at all times and in all places give thanks for her bountiful grace. And then came Obama. Now, in previous campaigns, she's had on candidates. Both sides. With Obama's declaration for the Presidency, she's now taken the position that she's not going to use her program as a platform for any candidate, conveniently pointing out that Obama was interviewed, more than once, before he officially declared. And yet, she's endorsed him. On her show, in fact. She hosted the soiree for him and his campaign, at her home. She's stumped for him. But declaring that her show will not under any circumstances interview Sarah Palin because her program will not be used as a political venue is disengenuous in the extreme. Oprah IS the show. Wherever. Whenever. And she's clearly decided to endorse Obama, eschew Palin, while declaring her show's neutrality, after offering it to anyone with a candidacy. Nonsense. Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? Is that hers? Yes, actually it is. Does she say this on her broadcast? If so, that's just silly. I have no intention of watching her to find out, in any case. She has said it numerous times, yes. Anybody can watch or avoid her show. I don't think her program amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares? This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus. She does have considerable influence. Whether or not she can swing an election among female voters is a legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' Whether she thinks she can or not is beside the point. I do not believe she has a significant amount of influence. She is one voice, albeit a loud one, out of hundreds, all of whom clamor for whatever they want you to hear. Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election of Abraham Lincoln. You must be referring to Joseph Medill, the predecessor to McCormick in Chicago - Mr. McCormick the elder was far to young to have much effect on Mr. Lincoln's election (he was not yet 12 years old at the first one), and his son Robert was born after Lincoln had been gone 15 years. Crossed wires, here...yes, you are correct. Been writing too many things at once, here. :) |
(OT) : Boycott "The Oprah Winfrey Show" : Call Her Sponsors -Tell Them We Want Sarah Palin Now !
On Sep 11, 2:26*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 9, 5:10 pm, D Peter Maus wrote: bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote: Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers* * The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ? No she doesn't. *She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like any other talk show. *If a *conservative talk show guy/gal just wants McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business. * *Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she DOES have a duty and responsibility. I understand why she would do this, but I am very unclear why declaring herself a NEWS program gives her a duty or responsibility to her viewers, to give equal time to all opposing viewpoints. *There are plenty of news programs on both sides that are as lopsided as a one- legged horse. *For that matter, there are lots of non-news programs that do likewise, and I doubt they are in violation of McCain-Feingold any less than she might be (emphasis on word "might" - the lawsuits aren't settled yet). * *Oprah has made a great issue out of raising her show above the other chat shows that pander to the more or less prurient interests of the public. Springer, Maury, to a lesser extent Montel...and the balance of the banal. Only Oprah has declared herself and her show to be about the higher plain... Is that why she recently interviewed a pregnant man? Is that why she gives a way free cars to screaming fans? Oprah's an entertainer, not a journalist. a higher standard...and she's someone who's gone out of her way, over the years, to bash so called news that has been unfair, unbalanced, or lopsided. Only Oprah has declared herself to be the arbiter of what is mete, right, and salutary, and that we should at all times and in all places give thanks for her bountiful grace. * *And then came Obama. Now, in previous campaigns, she's had on candidates. Both sides. She had none of the candidates on in 2004. This year is no different. *With Obama's declaration for the Presidency, she's now taken the position that she's not going to use her program as a platform for any candidate, conveniently pointing out that Obama was interviewed, more than once, before he officially declared. And yet, she's endorsed him. On her show, in fact. She can endorse anyone she wants anywhere she wants anytime she wants. The key point is she did not give him air time on her show while he was running, thus she has no obligation to give Palin air time. She hosted the soiree for him and his campaign, at her home. She's stumped for him. Not on her show she didn't. He hasn't appeared on her show in nearly two years. * *But declaring that her show will not under any circumstances interview Sarah Palin because her program will not be used as a political venue is disengenuous in the extreme. Except she didn't say that which makes you disinengenuos in the extreme. What she said was that she wouldn't use her show to host ANY of the candidates since she's obviously supporting Obama. In fact I give her high marks for being so upfront about her bias. * *Oprah IS the show. Wherever. Whenever. And she's clearly decided to endorse Obama, eschew Palin, while declaring her show's neutrality, after offering it to anyone with a candidacy. Nonsense. Idiotic point. Oprah is NOT her show. Oprah is an American citizen with the same right to support a candidate as any other U.S. citizen. Yes Oprah may attract attention everywhere she goes, but by that standard Laura Bush is a show. Should Laura Bush be forced to sit down with Obama because her endorsement for McCain attracted volumes of attention? |
(OT) : Boycott "The Oprah Winfrey
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(OT) : The Two Faces of "The Oprah" : African-American -versus-Feminist-Women
On Sep 10, 11:26*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 9, 5:10 pm, D Peter Maus wrote: bpnjensen wrote: On Sep 8, 5:43 pm, RHF wrote: Oprah Winfrey has a Duty and Responsibility to her Viewers* * The All American Women's TV Audience -or- Are Only Liberal Democrat Women ALLOWED to Watch 'The Oprah' ? No she doesn't. *She can have on or not anybody she likes, just like any other talk show. *If a *conservative talk show guy/gal just wants McCain and Palin on, that's his/her business. * *Actually, yes, she does. Oprah has declared her program, for the purposes of McCain-Feingold, a NEWS program. In that case, yes, she DOES have a duty and responsibility. I understand why she would do this, but I am very unclear why declaring herself a NEWS program gives her a duty or responsibility to her viewers, to give equal time to all opposing viewpoints. *There are plenty of news programs on both sides that are as lopsided as a one- legged horse. *For that matter, there are lots of non-news programs that do likewise, and I doubt they are in violation of McCain-Feingold any less than she might be (emphasis on word "might" - the lawsuits aren't settled yet). * *Oprah has made a great issue out of raising her show above the other chat shows that pander to the more or less prurient interests of the public. Springer, Maury, to a lesser extent Montel...and the balance of the banal. Only Oprah has declared herself and her show to be about the higher plain...a higher standard...and she's someone who's gone out of her way, over the years, to bash so called news that has been unfair, unbalanced, or lopsided. Only Oprah has declared herself to be the arbiter of what is mete, right, and salutary, and that we should at all times and in all places give thanks for her bountiful grace. * *And then came Obama. Now, in previous campaigns, she's had on candidates. Both sides. *With Obama's declaration for the Presidency, she's now taken the position that she's not going to use her program as a platform for any candidate, conveniently pointing out that Obama was interviewed, more than once, before he officially declared. And yet, she's endorsed him. On her show, in fact. She hosted the soiree for him and his campaign, at her home. She's stumped for him. * *But declaring that her show will not under any circumstances interview Sarah Palin because her program will not be used as a political venue is disengenuous in the extreme. * *Oprah IS the show. Wherever. Whenever. And she's clearly decided to endorse Obama, eschew Palin, while declaring her show's neutrality, after offering it to anyone with a candidacy. Nonsense. Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers? * *Yes, actually it is. Does she say this on her broadcast? *If so, that's just silly. *I have no intention of watching her to find out, in any case. * * *She has said it numerous times, yes. Anybody can watch or avoid her show. *I don't think her program amounts to a hill of beans in this election, frankly, so who cares? This amounts to the same level of effectiveness as those misguided nuts sitting in trees on the UC-Berkeley campus. * *She does have considerable influence. Whether or not she can swing an election among female voters is a legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' Whether she thinks she can or not is beside the point. *I do not believe she has a significant amount of influence. *She is one voice, albeit a loud one, out of hundreds, all of whom clamor for whatever they want you to hear. * *Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election of Abraham Lincoln. You must be referring to Joseph Medill, the predecessor to McCormick in Chicago - Mr. McCormick the elder was far to young to have much effect on Mr. Lincoln's election (he was not yet 12 years old at the first one), and his son Robert was born after Lincoln had been gone 15 years. * *Crossed wires, here...yes, you are correct. * *Been writing too many things at once, here. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Two Faces of "The Oprah" : African-American -versus- Feminist- Women By supporting Barack Hussein Obama II "The-Oprah" has taken the position that she is an African-American FIRST. http://www.openentrance.com/wp-conte...ama-061707.jpg By NOT supporting Hillary 'Rotten' Clinton "The-Oprah" has taken the position that she is a Feminist-Women SECOND. http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/05/HillaryClinton.jpg By BANNING Sarah Palin from The Oprah Winfrey Show "The-Oprah" has clearly taken the position that she is totally ANTI-Traditional-Family-Values-Women PERIOD. http://tizona.files.wordpress.com/20...h_palin_02.jpg |
(OT) : The Dumping of Joe Biden from the Ticket : Obama / CLINTONNow ! {Change Is Good}
On Sep 10, 9:07*pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 10, 4:56*pm, RHF wrote: On Sep 10, 12:36*pm, RHF wrote: On Sep 9, 5:10*pm, D Peter Maus wrote: -snip- - - Where did you get this "All-American" slogan from? *Is that hers? -*Yes, actually it is. -*She does have considerable influence. Whether or not - she can swing an election among female voters is a - legitimate question. But clearly she thinks she can, - or she would not have defined her program as 'news.' - - Then, again, media believes itself to be the Fourth Branch. - Which isn't anything new. History points overwhelmingly - to Robert McCormick being responsible for the election - of Abraham Lincoln. Bad News for Oprah . . . White Women Voters are moving from Obama-Bidento McCain-Palin by a 20 Point Shift.http://abcnews.go..com/PollingUnit/P...5751238&page=1 The Oprah Winfrey Show still says NO to Sarah Palin while White Women Voters Say - yes, Yes. YES We Can ! * Sarah Palin and White, Married Women which is the majority of Oprah Winfrey's TV Viewershttp://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-and-white-mar... * Did Sarah Palin give John "Smiley" McCain a Big Boost with Women Voters ? - YEAH !http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...10.CAMPAIGNWOM... * Women Voters Flocking to John "Smiley" McCain the Sarah Palin VP Factor is Realhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/women-voters-flock-t... * Poll shows big shift to McCain among white womenhttp://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN097920080909 * Barack Obama and the White Women Vote - Democrats Just Don't Win That Group any more . .http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-s...09/barack-obam... * Sarah Palin, White Women Voters & The Phenomenon of Identity Politics Identity Politics Bites the Democrats in the Ass's Asshttp://boatangdemetriou.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/sarah-palin-white-wo... *. (OT) : The Dumping of JoeBidenfrom the Ticket : Obama/Clinton Now ! *. Hillary Clinton is More Qualified to be Vice President of the United States - JoeBiden- 10 Sept 2008http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/10/politics/fromtheroad/entry443... Message : Toss Uncle Joe {Biden} From The Train {Campaign} JoeBidenis being 'told' to Bow-Out so that Hillary can 'replace' Him as VP on the Ticket. * Should ObamaDumpBidenNow ? ! ?http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/14276 *DumpBidenhttp://wordpress.com/tag/dump-biden/ * Will ObamaDumpBidenOff the Ticket?http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...ent/01125112.g... * "DumpBiden" Movement Set To Take Offhttp://novatownhall.com/2008/09/04/dump-biden-death-watch-commences/ Bet Your Will Be Seeing Her VPness Hillary Clinton The Oprah Winfrey Show ASAP ! JoeBiden: Hillary May Have Been Better VP Pickhttp://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/10/biden-on-hillary-may-have-... NOTE - This is the same JoeBidenwho said publically : "Barack Obama Is Not Ready To Be President."http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/08/23/obama-biden-ticket-obama-no...Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The Daily KOS -reports- Obama toDumpBidenfor Hillaryhttp://openthread.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/10/22424/2466/554/594401 *.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Joe Biden's Bizarre "Hillary Clinton is More Qualified" Comment Hurts His Running Mate Barack Hussein Obama and Helps Republican VP Sarah Palin http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2041 Obama Meets with Former President Clinton http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008...ident-clinton/ sure kind of looks like 'dump biden' continues ~ RHF |
Republican Flunkie Put In His Place
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(OT) : Democrat Dirty Tricks and Nasty Obama Campaign Tactics- Attack & Smear
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"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message ... How quickly you forget. By any chance, do you remember a fellow called Karl Rove? The -MASTER- of (Republican) dirty tricks. The Karl Rove who falsely said one of the people running against Bush in 2000 fathered an illegitimate child? Are you referring to "Personal Smears" like that? Please try and improve that selective memory. Brenda Ann wrote: The same Karl Rove who has recently said that even McCain's attack ads have gone too far and contained known lies? Since when did that criminal (IMHO) Rove get religion? (or is it just a case of "Do as I say, not do as I do"). :-) |
America: Land of the Thieves: Home of the Slave
On Sep 17, 7:08 pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:
` "Billy Burpelson" wrote in message ... How quickly you forget. By any chance, do you remember a fellow called Karl Rove? The -MASTER- of (Republican) dirty tricks. The Karl Rove who falsely said one of the people running against Bush in 2000 fathered an illegitimate child? Are you referring to "Personal Smears" like that? Please try and improve that selective memory. Brenda Ann wrote: The same Karl Rove who has recently said that even McCain's attack ads have gone too far and contained known lies? Since when did that criminal (IMHO) Rove get religion? (or is it just a case of "Do as I say, not do as I do"). :-) |
(OT) : Democrat Dirty Tricks and Nasty Obama Campaign Tactics -Attack & Smear
On Sep 17, 5:08*pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:
` "Billy Burpelson" wrote in message ... How quickly you forget. By any chance, do you remember a fellow called Karl Rove? The -MASTER- of (Republican) dirty tricks. The Karl Rove who falsely said one of the people running against Bush in 2000 fathered an illegitimate child? Are you referring to "Personal Smears" like that? Please try and improve that selective memory. Brenda Ann wrote: The same Karl Rove who has recently said that even McCain's attack ads have gone too far and contained known lies? - Since when did that criminal (IMHO) Rove get religion? - (or is it just a case of "Do as I say, not do as I do"). :-) Karl Rove George "W" Bush Ashore - Hallelujah - - - It was a #1 Hit-Piece in 2000 Karl Rove George "W" Bush Ashore - Hallelujah - - - It was again a #1 Hit-Piece in 2004 BB DAID-NAIS works for me ~ RHF |
America: Land of the Thieves: Home of the Slave
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(OT) : US Congress Adjourns During the Biggest Financial Crisis sincethe Great Depression
(OT) : US Congress Adjourns During the Biggest Financial Crisis since
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(OT) : The Baracking of America© = AMERICA GOD DAMN !
(OT) : The Baracking of America©
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Republican Flunkie Put In His Place
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Republican Flunkie Put In His Place
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:45:42 -0500, cuhulin wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=240072 B HO! cuhulin Are you judged by the actions of your father? Judge by the action of the guy your voting for. McCan't dumped his model wife and family when she became fat. Dumped her for a much richer women which says to me that he's very selfish and materialistic. Obama never dumped his wife when she was fat and he never followed money. A much better person and Christian in my eyes. |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
Visual Image : Appearance and Voice + Sarah Palin's Face looks Youthful Energized and Speaks Directly to the Viewer/Voter in a Voice that Resonates. - Joe Biden's Face looks Old Tired {Baggy Eyes} with a softer Voice and often is looking at the Moderator versus the Viewer/Voter. |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The Second 'Radio'Impression
Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The Second Radio Impression
The Radio Sound Image : THE VOICE + Sarah Palin's Sounded Youthful Energized : Her Voice Was Dynamic - Joe Biden's has a 'soft' Sounding Voice and His Voice lacked a Dynamic Quality * Plus at the end of the debate Joe Buden Lost It ! {Got Emotional -dare-i-say-it- Like A Women} The Radio "Winner" is Sarah Palin ~ RHF |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The Third "SeemsFactual" Impression
Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The Third 'Factual' Impression
The Third 'Factual' Impression : Sound Bites* { Not Really the Facts : But What Sounded Good } * The Kind-of-Facts that the 'average' TV Viewer/Voter would easily understand 'feel' in-their-gut - GRrrAaa ! + Joe Biden had the 'facts' down to the technical "T" -but- Facts that do not resonate with the average TV Viewer/Voter do not 'feel' like facts at all. + Sarah Palin had the 'common sense facts' down to the sound-bite "Sizzle" {Gut Feeling} + Sarah Palin's Facts did Resonate with the average TV Viewer/Voter and they 'felt' these facts related to Them and Their Daily Lives. Two Pluses for Sarah Palin and One Plus for Joe Biden - - - - Oops at the very end Joe Biden Whimped-Out and got 'emotional' {A Sign of Weakness} Point-of-Fact - The Average American wants their Leaders to be Strong. Big Mistake {Sissy-Boy } Joe especially when you are debating a Women {Girl} . Total Plus Two for Sarah Palin -and- Plus One for Joe Biden -but- Minus Four for Joe Biden getting next to Tears at the end of the Debate : Biden Minus Three. The "Seems Factual" Winner is Sarah Palin ~ RHF This means that three-out-of-four TV Viewers/Voters will go away with the initial impression that Sarah Palin sounded 'right' on the issues. {75%} -obtw- Over the next week some of this 75% of the Viewers/Voters will be hearing that what they 'felt' was wrong FATUALLY -and- 25% of those Viewers/ Voters will Change-Their-Minds and reconsider Joe Biden's Fact to be the Right Answers. BUT that 25% of 75% is only 19% of 100% : Which means that to 56% of the TV Viewer/Voters Sarah Palin had the Right Answers. So a Week Later Sarah Palin is still the Sure Does "Seems Factual" Winner. John 'Smiley" McCain could 'sure' lear a thing or two from Sarah Palin . . . and that is for-sure ~ RHF |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
On Oct 2, 9:39*pm, RHF wrote:
Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression Visual Image : Appearance and Voice + Sarah Palin's Face looks Youthful Energized and Speaks Directly to the Viewer/Voter in a Voice that Resonates. - Joe Biden's Face looks Old Tired {Baggy Eyes} with a softer Voice and often is looking at the Moderator versus the Viewer/Voter. *. Other garbage deleted As substantive as always, Royboy. At least Joe responded to the questions asked, instead of regurgitating memorized soundbites. Hey, but what do I know about debate? I just taught and coached it for over twenty years... Now, I can identify the sound of a wolverine gnawing through plywood! ;-) But, really, I applaud Sarah for showing that she can hold her own. Mike |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The Second 'Radio'Impression
On Oct 2, 11:24*pm, RHF wrote:
* Plus at the end of the debate Joe Buden Lost It ! {Got Emotional -dare-i-say-it- Like A Women} !!?? You question the sexuality of a man who chokes up when recounting the death of his wife and child?!? For shame, Roy, for shame! Have you no humanity? Has your political partisanship caused you to take leave of any semblance of rationality or feelings? I can understand you shilling for Sarah - her performance far surpassed most (lowered) expectations. But this indictment of Biden says far more about you than you imagine... You do your side more damage than you seem to be able to realize. Mike |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
"Mike" wrote in message ... On Oct 2, 9:39 pm, RHF wrote: Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression Visual Image : Appearance and Voice + Sarah Palin's Face looks Youthful Energized and Speaks Directly to the Viewer/Voter in a Voice that Resonates. - Joe Biden's Face looks Old Tired {Baggy Eyes} with a softer Voice and often is looking at the Moderator versus the Viewer/Voter. . Other garbage deleted As substantive as always, Royboy. At least Joe responded to the questions asked, instead of regurgitating memorized soundbites. Hey, but what do I know about debate? I just taught and coached it for over twenty years... Now, I can identify the sound of a wolverine gnawing through plywood! ;-) But, really, I applaud Sarah for showing that she can hold her own. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe was reguritating soundbites as well. He was just better at it. I give this one to Biden. |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The Second 'Radio' Impression
"Mike" wrote in message ... On Oct 2, 11:24 pm, RHF wrote: * Plus at the end of the debate Joe Buden Lost It ! {Got Emotional -dare-i-say-it- Like A Women} !!?? You question the sexuality of a man who chokes up when recounting the death of his wife and child?!? For shame, Roy, for shame! Have you no humanity? Has your political partisanship caused you to take leave of any semblance of rationality or feelings? I can understand you shilling for Sarah - her performance far surpassed most (lowered) expectations. But this indictment of Biden says far more about you than you imagine... You do your side more damage than you seem to be able to realize. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I thought her performance myself was pretty pathetic. Joe came off as a bit of a used car saleman, but he has been in DC for 30 years. |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
On Oct 3, 6:34*am, Mike wrote:
On Oct 2, 9:39*pm, RHF wrote: Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression Visual Image : Appearance and Voice + Sarah Palin's Face looks Youthful Energized and Speaks Directly to the Viewer/Voter in a Voice that Resonates. - Joe Biden's Face looks Old Tired {Baggy Eyes} with a softer Voice and often is looking at the Moderator versus the Viewer/Voter. *. Other garbage deleted As substantive as always, Royboy. At least Joe responded to the questions asked, instead of regurgitating memorized soundbites. Hey, but what do I know about debate? I just taught and coached it for over twenty years... Now, I can identify the sound of a wolverine gnawing through plywood! *;-) But, really, I applaud Sarah for showing that she can hold her own. Mike Mike - It's TV - It is called a Debate -but-in-fact- It is a Performance in Sight and Sound : Don't Judge it by a Policy Wonk Mindset -but- By the Mindset of the Average Daily TV News Viewer and Common Sense Voter. ? Who Acted the Most Believable ? * Visual Image { I 'Like' What I Saw.} * Voice Dynamics { I 'Like' What I Heard.} * Common Sense Answers { Don't Confuse Me With To Many Facts. } # 1 - Reason for Voting Pocket-Book Issues. [ Getting People To The Polls ] # 1 - Reason for Voters 'Choice' Likability of the Candidate. [ Getting People To Finally 'Decide' At The Polls ] http://www.ninaspencer.com/index.cfm... SectionID=60 |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
On Oct 3, 10:11 am, "MNMikeW" wrote: Joe was reguritating soundbites as well. He was just better at it. I give this one to Biden. Well, Mike, most polls (except for Fox and Drudge - imagine that!) are putting Biden up 15 to 20 %-age points, so they seem to agree with you! As a former debater and debate coach, I applaud Sarah for the energy of her presentation, but her refusal to address specific questions left me greatly concerned. Her answers on health care and climate, also, didn't make much sense. But, those are facts, and they'll only confuse Roy! ;-) Mike |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
On Oct 3, 12:00*pm, RHF wrote:
# 1 - Reason for Voters 'Choice' Likability of the Candidate. [ Getting People To Finally 'Decide' At The Polls ]http://www.ninaspencer..com/index.cfm?Fuseaction=ArticleDisplay&Articl... Well, gee, Roy, why didn't you apply the same standards to McCain in the first Presidential Debate? With his sour facial expressions and refusal to make eye contact with either the camera or Obama, maybe you need to send the link above to him.... ;-) Mike |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The Second 'Radio'Impression
On Oct 3, 6:41*am, Mike wrote:
On Oct 2, 11:24*pm, RHF wrote: * Plus at the end of the debate Joe Buden Lost It ! {Got Emotional -dare-i-say-it- Like A Women} !!?? - You question the sexuality of a man who chokes - up when recounting the death of his wife and child?!? CRUDE AIN'T IT - Go check-out the People Meter Readings when Biden was speaking at that time. [The Instant Reaction to Sight and Sound] Note that I when on to say "- - - - Oops at the very end Joe Biden Whimped-Out and got 'emotional' {A Sign of Weakness} " Expanding upon that : "Point-of-Fact - The Average American wants their Leaders to be Strong." And Yes It is Gender Stereotyping : "Big Mistake {Sissy-Boy }" Because : Joe especially when you are debating a Women {Girl} . - For shame, Roy, for shame! Ah Yes I am Shameless - shame, Shame. SHAME ! - Have you no humanity? OK let me pinch myself - yep I am still a 'feeling' Human Being - does that qualify as 'humanity' ? - Has your political partisanship caused you to take - leave of any semblance of rationality or feelings? Rationality -versus- 'feelings' What I wrote was about the irrationality of "Feelings" -not- the Rationality of the Facts Presented. Clearly Joe Biden 'presented' Good Facts -where-as- Sarah Palin was mostly Fact-less - I can understand you shilling for Sarah - her performance far surpassed most - (lowered) expectations. Sarah Palin's 'performance' in Sight and Sound was a Very Good "Performance" : Simplistic But True. - But this indictment of Biden says far more about - you than you imagine... Don't It Though :o) - You do your side more damage - than you seem to be able to realize. How by Stating What I Saw -impression- On the TV ? How by Stating What I Heard -impression- On the Radio ? =REPOST= Mike - It's TV - It is called a Debate -but-in-fact- It is a Performance in Sight and Sound : Don't Judge it by a Policy Wonk Mindset -but- By the Mindset of the Average Daily TV News Viewer and Common Sense Voter. ? Who Acted the Most Believable ? * Visual Image { I 'Like' What I Saw.} * Voice Dynamics { I 'Like' What I Heard.} * Common Sense Answers { Don't Confuse Me With To Many Facts. } # 1 - Reason for Voting Pocket-Book Issues. [ Getting People To The Polls ] # 1 - Reason for Voters 'Choice' Likability of the Candidate. [ Getting People To Finally 'Decide' At The Polls ] http://www.ninaspencer.com/index.cfm...Display&Articl... - Mike |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression,Yo Mike B.
Mike wrote:
Other garbage deleted As substantive as always, Royboy. At least Joe responded to the questions asked, instead of regurgitating memorized soundbites. Hey, but what do I know about debate? I just taught and coached it for over twenty years... Now, I can identify the sound of a wolverine gnawing through plywood! ;-) But, really, I applaud Sarah for showing that she can hold her own. Mike Thanks Mike. I was hoping you would post a few words on the debate. i, for one value your expertise. i go with you on this. i feel Biden did vary well. Palin had that "Moose in the headlights" look a few times. also, that folks-ie crap don't cut it in the big time. if you caught it on camera, she had a large amount of notes on her podium. but, i believe she did fair, considering she is a bit out of her element. i'm wondering if she had the -W- bug in her ear? with the porn-star style hair, i couldn't tell if she had an ear bug. and i didn't catch a box on her back like George had. and, i'm sure they learned from the Bush-Kerry debates. thanks again for your comments. Drifter |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
On Oct 3, 9:19*am, Mike wrote:
On Oct 3, 12:00*pm, RHF wrote: # 1 - Reason for Voters 'Choice' Likability of the Candidate. [ Getting People To Finally 'Decide' At The Polls ]http://www.ninaspencer.com/index.cfm?Fuseaction=ArticleDisplay&Articl... - Well, gee, Roy, why didn't you apply the same - standards to McCain in the first Presidential Debate? Mike - OK here it goes : 1 - TV Image : Obama 2 - Radio Sound : Obama 3 - The Facts : McCain {Oops it's a TV Perfromance and Ain't About The Facts : Obama} - With his sour facial expressions and refusal to make - eye contact with either the camera or Obama, HELLO - John "Smiley" McCain - It's TV - Look at the Camara .. . . and Smile :-)) Big-Time ! John "Smiley" McCain sure-do-need-to Work On His Smile and in general loses the Likability Factor to Barack Obama. http://www.timsanders.com/books/likeability.html Barack Hussein Obama Jr. : You Gotto Like the Guy . . . But Will You Vote for Him ? ? ? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...67b7a06b05ebab Barack Hussein Obama II's "Race" Problem : Dealing with the Reality of Black-and-White Racism in America http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...b295420d8a6447 - maybe you need to send the link above to him.... *;-) - - Mike Mike - Most of my Posts here do get 'shared' with other Right Thinking People ;;-)' ~ RHF |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : Described in aDemocrapcy of Words
On Oct 3, 10:01*am, Drifter wrote:
Mike wrote: Other garbage deleted As substantive as always, Royboy. At least Joe responded to the questions asked, instead of regurgitating memorized soundbites. Hey, but what do I know about debate? I just taught and coached it for over twenty years... Now, I can identify the sound of a wolverine gnawing through plywood! *;-) But, really, I applaud Sarah for showing that she can hold her own. Mike - Thanks Mike. I was hoping you would post a few words on the debate. - i, for one value your expertise. i go with you on this. i feel Biden - did vary well. Palin had that "Moose in the headlights" look a few - times. also, that folks-ie crap don't cut it in the big time. if - you caught it on camera, she had a large amount of notes on her - podium. but, i believe she did fair, considering she is a bit - out of her element. i'm wondering if she had the -W- bug in her ear? - with the porn-star style hair, i couldn't tell if she had an ear - bug. and i didn't catch a box on her back like George had. and, i'm - sure they learned from the Bush-Kerry debates. thanks again for - your comments. - - Drifter Drifter - "Moose in the headlights look" Drifter - "folks-ie crap" Drifter - "porn-star style hair" that is a marvelous democrapcy of words ~ RHF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZl3gGV4H6c |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
MNMikeW wrote: "Mike" wrote in message ... On Oct 2, 9:39 pm, RHF wrote: Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression Visual Image : Appearance and Voice + Sarah Palin's Face looks Youthful Energized and Speaks Directly to the Viewer/Voter in a Voice that Resonates. - Joe Biden's Face looks Old Tired {Baggy Eyes} with a softer Voice and often is looking at the Moderator versus the Viewer/Voter. . Other garbage deleted As substantive as always, Royboy. At least Joe responded to the questions asked, instead of regurgitating memorized soundbites. Hey, but what do I know about debate? I just taught and coached it for over twenty years... Now, I can identify the sound of a wolverine gnawing through plywood! ;-) But, really, I applaud Sarah for showing that she can hold her own. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe was reguritating soundbites as well. He was just better at it. I give this one to Biden. I thought he sounded like a pull-string toy. |
(OT) : Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression
On Oct 3, 10:47*am, dxAce wrote:
MNMikeW wrote: "Mike" wrote in message .... On Oct 2, 9:39 pm, RHF wrote: Sarah Palin -debates- Joe Biden : The First Impression Visual Image : Appearance and Voice + Sarah Palin's Face looks Youthful Energized and Speaks Directly to the Viewer/Voter in a Voice that Resonates. - Joe Biden's Face looks Old Tired {Baggy Eyes} with a softer Voice and often is looking at the Moderator versus the Viewer/Voter. . Other garbage deleted As substantive as always, Royboy. At least Joe responded to the questions asked, instead of regurgitating memorized soundbites. Hey, but what do I know about debate? I just taught and coached it for over twenty years... Now, I can identify the sound of a wolverine gnawing through plywood! *;-) But, really, I applaud Sarah for showing that she can hold her own. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---- Joe was reguritating soundbites as well. He was just better at it. I give this one to Biden. - I thought he sounded like a pull-string toy. fact fact fact Fact Fact Fact FACT FACT FACT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1PiiugqtjI With a Fact Fact Here and a Fact Fact There Here a Fact There a Fact Everywhere a Fact Fact Old Joe Biden Spat the Facts e i e i o |
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