On Oct 11, 3:33*pm, Dave wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:

If he can pull that off, he may win the election by as much as 2%. *
I've a feeling that the polls do not represent anything close to
reality, just as the exit polls did not in the last election.

I hate to be cynical, but have you at least considered that the exit
polls may have been correct -- until the election(s) got stolen.

*From Beloved Leader Joe Stalin: "He who casts the ballot controls
nothing; he who counts the ballots controls everything".

This country has been sending people overseas to monitor -their-
elections. After the last two elections here, a legitimate question
might be "Who is monitoring -our- election"?

- Ohio was stolen. *Proven fact.

Prove It !

On Oct 11, 11:11*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Oct 11, 9:45 am, "Mike C." wrote:
"michael" wrote in message

ting.com...

Patriot Games. Yes I believe it. Just few weeks ago. Obama presented
an ad..linking McCain to The Keating five. Which he was cleared.
So its fair McCain presented an ad Obama is linked to Bill Ayers. Fair
game. Do you think Obama should be untouched by the media? Obama
owns the media..why he's getting a pass.
The Keating stuff was brought up in response to McCain attacking Obama on
Ayers, not vice versa.

- But you, of course, being a Republican
- can't admit anything honestly.

MC - I can 'honestly' admit to being a Registered Voter.
{ and there is an acorn of truth in that ;-}

count every vote : voting - just do it ~ RHF
*.
*.
The Questions -was- McCain's AD Linking Barack
Hussein Obama to the Terrorist Bill Ayers :

Have You Seen It ?

Do You Believe It ?

(OT) : 2008 Election News Flash : McCain's AD Linking
Barack Hussein Obama to the Terrorist Bill Ayers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...04bfba13e68046
*.

- Can you produce a photo of Ayers and Obama together?
-*Surely if they were tight there'd be photos.

Dave You Want Photos : Here You Go

http://www.nouvelordremondial.cc/wp-...conspiracy.jpg

Title : Dave Is Now On-the-Air

RHF wrote:

D'Oh! - Aren't All Huge {Successful} Companies
owned by Republicans ?

Ask Warren Buffet.

RHF wrote:
On Oct 11, 3:33 pm, Dave wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
If he can pull that off, he may win the election by as much as 2%.
I've a feeling that the polls do not represent anything close to
reality, just as the exit polls did not in the last election.
I hate to be cynical, but have you at least considered that the exit
polls may have been correct -- until the election(s) got stolen.
From Beloved Leader Joe Stalin: "He who casts the ballot controls
nothing; he who counts the ballots controls everything".
This country has been sending people overseas to monitor -their-
elections. After the last two elections here, a legitimate question
might be "Who is monitoring -our- election"?

- Ohio was stolen. Proven fact.

Prove It !

This is a fact: On November 2, 2004, in the State of Ohio, 239,127 votes
for President of the United States were dumped, rejected, blocked, lost
and left to rot uncounted.

And not just anyone's vote. Dive into the electoral dumpster and these
"spoiled" votes have a very dark color indeed.

In another life, I taught statistics. And these statistics stank: the
raw data tells us that if you are a Black voter, the chance of you
losing your vote to technical errors in voting machinery is 900% higher
than if you were a white voter.

Any guesses as to whom those African-Americans chose for president on
those junked ballots? Check Ohio's racial demographics, do the numbers,
and there it is: Kerry won Ohio. And that, too, is a fact. A fact that
could not get reported in the USA.

But the shoplifting of those votes in Ohio was just the tip of the
theft-berg. November 2, 2004 was a national ballot-box bonfire. In
total, over three million votes (3,600,380 to be exact) were
cast—marked, punched, pulled—YET NEVER COUNTED. I'm not talking about
the Ukraine or Uganda. I'm talking about the United States of America
"with liberty and justice for all."

Well, not "all." The nine-to-one Black-to-White ballot spoilage rate is
a national statistic—not just an Ohio trick. Last year, I flew to New
Mexico to investigate the 33,981 cast but not counted ballots of that
state in the 2004 race. George Bush "won" New Mexico by 5,988 votes. Or
did he? I calculated that, of the all the ballots rejected and
"spoiled," 89% were cast by voters of color. Who won New Mexico? Kerry
won—or he would have, if they had counted the ballots.

But they didn't count them. And that was deliberate. It's in the plan.
It's the program. And the program for 2008 is simple. Two million
ballots were cast but not counted in the 2000 race. (Over half, 54%,
were cast by African-American.) In 2004, the GOP kicked it up to THREE
million. Get ready, these guys aim high: "four in '06" and "five in '08"
looks to be their game plan.

How will they pile up five million un-voters in 2008? Let's start with
the three million "disappeared" of 2004:

Step 1: "Spoiling" ballots—1,389,231 of them. In the vote-count game,
these are called "undervotes" and "overvotes." You can recognize these
lost ballots by their hanging chads, punch cards without punches (an
Ohio specialty), paper ballots eaten by scanners, and touch screens that
didn't know you touched them.

Step 2: Rejecting "provisional ballots"-- 1,090,729 in this pile. Voters
finding themselves at the "wrong" precinct, or wrongly "scrubbed" from
voter rolls get these back-of-the-bus ballots first inaugurated in 2002.
In '04, provisional ballots were passed out like candy to voters in the
poorest precincts. They handed them out—then threw them away—one million
dumped in all. In Ohio, Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell
changed state rules, allowing him to toss out the ballots of legal
voters who cast ballots in the wrong precinct although these citizens
were told their vote would count after confirming their registration.

Step 3: Not counting absentee ballots—526,420 of them. At least, that's
what we figure from official stats. But it's anyone's guess how many
mailed-in votes were dumped. (However, in one case, in Palm Beach,
Florida, Jeb Bush's candidate for Elections Supervisor, Theresa LaPore,
counted more absentee votes than absentee ballots mailed in. Not the
brightest bulb in the vote-fix biz, that Theresa.)

Step 4: Scrub'm, Purge'm, Block'm. These are the voters who never got to
vote at all. This group includes those who found their registrations
were never entered on the voter rolls. In Ohio, about one-fourth of
those registered by Jesse Jackson's 2004 voter drive, found their
registrations delayed beyond the election date or lost.

Add to this un-voter group, those who were wrongly "scrubbed" from
registries as "felons." For example, there was Bernice Kines, purged in
Florida in 2004 because she was convicted of a felony on July 31, 2009.
I repeat: 2009. There was something especially odd about the Ohio felon
purge: ex-cons are ALLOWED to vote in that state, Mr. Blackwell.

How many lost their chance to vote by scrubbing, purging and blocking?
That's anyone's guess, but one million would not be an unfair
estimate—and that's not included in the 3.6 million tally of ballots
uncounted.

Was it deliberate? Oh my God, yes. I'd like you to take a look at the
"caging" lists the Republican National Committee concocted to challenge
voters with "suspect" addresses. It included page after page of
African-American soldiers, like one Randall Prausa, shipped overseas.
Mission accomplished, Mr. President?

And there's some new tricks for these old dogs. For the 2006 and 2008,
the GOP is pushing new Voter ID requirements. Your signature won't be
good enough anymore.

What's wrong with the new ID laws? This: in the 2004 election, 300,000
voters were turned away from the polls for "wrong" ID. For example, in
the "Little Texas" counties in New Mexico, if your voter registration
included a middle initial but your driver's license had none, you were
kicked out of the polling station. Funny, but they only seemed to ask
Hispanic voters. We should see the number of voters rejected for ID to
quintuple by 2008 based on the new "voting reform" laws recently passed
in several states.

Also, coming to a polling station near you: more caging lists, scrub
lists, ID challenge lists and more. Exactly why do you think they are
compiling those "War on Terror" and War on Immigration databases? Behind
the 2000 felon purge lists and behind the 2004 caging lists were
databases from the same companies that now have those homeland security
contracts. Are they saving us from Osama—or from Democrats?

I wish I could give you a book on a page, because information is our
weapon: Turn on the lights and the cockroaches scatter. That's why I'm
asking you to read RFK's article on the Theft of Ohio—and GET ANGRY.
Then read, "Armed Madhouse: & The Scheme to Steal '08"—AND GET READY.

**********
BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast is author of ARMED MADHOUSE:
Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf?, The Scheme to Steal 'O8, No Child's Behind
Left and other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War—out
Tuesday. Or order it at www.ArmedMadhouse.com

In article , Dave
wrote:

SNIP

BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast

I'm not impressed. Not even a little bit.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article , Dave
wrote:

SNIP

I'm sorry about the crosspost. Please drop RRS from the news group
header. Thanks.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Oct 11, 6:09*pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Oct 11, 3:33 pm, Dave wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
If he can pull that off, he may win the election by as much as 2%. *
I've a feeling that the polls do not represent anything close to
reality, just as the exit polls did not in the last election.
I hate to be cynical, but have you at least considered that the exit
polls may have been correct -- until the election(s) got stolen.
*From Beloved Leader Joe Stalin: "He who casts the ballot controls
nothing; he who counts the ballots controls everything".
This country has been sending people overseas to monitor -their-
elections. After the last two elections here, a legitimate question
might be "Who is monitoring -our- election"?

- Ohio was stolen. *Proven fact.

Prove It !

This is a fact: On November 2, 2004, in the State of Ohio, 239,127 votes
for President of the United States were dumped, rejected, blocked, lost
and left to rot uncounted.

And not just anyone's vote. Dive into the electoral dumpster and these
"spoiled" votes have a very dark color indeed.

- In another life, I taught statistics.
- And these statistics stank: the raw data tells us that
- if you are a Black voter, the chance of you losing
- your vote to technical errors in voting machinery
- is 900% higher than if you were a white voter.

Dave -d'oh- Most major Urban Centers are Democrat Party
Strong Holds with large "Black Voter" Populations -so- One
Must Conclude that the Democrat Party's Own Voting Machines
are the Ones that are Losing the Votes of Black Voters in
those Cities/Metros.

The Nasty Truth About the Democrat Party Controlled Voting Machines.
* Machines that are Bought by the Democrat Registrar
of Voters and/or Democrat Controlled Voting Commission
* Ballot Designed by the the Democrat Registrar of Voters
and/or Democrat Controlled Voting Commission
* Poll Workers Hired by the Democrat Registrar of Voters
and/or Democrat Controlled Voting Commission
* Counted by by the Democrat Registrar of Voters and/or
Democrat Controlled Voting Commission
* Results Reported by the Democrat Registrar of Voters
and/or Democrat Controlled Voting Commission
BUT IT IS ALL THE REPUBLICANS FAULT !

Point-of-Fact : There were more Dropped {Un-Counted} Votes
in Chicago in 2000 then in all of Florida. Count Every Vote
Even In Chicago -ps- Chicago If Neccessary Count Them Twice.

please forgive any technical errors in this post ;;-} ~ RHF

Telamon wrote:
In article , Dave
wrote:

SNIP

BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast

I'm not impressed. Not even a little bit.


Trained as a Forensic Accountant. His dad worked at the Camaro plant in
Van Nuys.

In article , Dave
wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article , Dave
wrote:

SNIP

BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast

I'm not impressed. Not even a little bit.


Trained as a Forensic Accountant.

He must have gotten a "C".

His dad worked at the Camaro plant in Van Nuys.

And probably hates his son.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Oct 11, 3:33 pm, Dave wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
If he can pull that off, he may win the election by as much as 2%.
I've a feeling that the polls do not represent anything close to
reality, just as the exit polls did not in the last election.
I hate to be cynical, but have you at least considered that the exit
polls may have been correct -- until the election(s) got stolen.
From Beloved Leader Joe Stalin: "He who casts the ballot controls
nothing; he who counts the ballots controls everything".
This country has been sending people overseas to monitor -their-
elections. After the last two elections here, a legitimate question
might be "Who is monitoring -our- election"?

- Ohio was stolen. Proven fact.

Prove It !

This is a fact: On November 2, 2004, in the State of Ohio, 239,127 votes
for President of the United States were dumped, rejected, blocked, lost
and left to rot uncounted.

And not just anyone's vote. Dive into the electoral dumpster and these
"spoiled" votes have a very dark color indeed.

In another life, I taught statistics. And these statistics stank: the
raw data tells us that if you are a Black voter, the chance of you
losing your vote to technical errors in voting machinery is 900% higher
than if you were a white voter.

Any guesses as to whom those African-Americans chose for president on
those junked ballots? Check Ohio's racial demographics, do the numbers,
and there it is: Kerry won Ohio. And that, too, is a fact. A fact that
could not get reported in the USA.

But the shoplifting of those votes in Ohio was just the tip of the
theft-berg. November 2, 2004 was a national ballot-box bonfire. In
total, over three million votes (3,600,380 to be exact) were
cast—marked, punched, pulled—YET NEVER COUNTED. I'm not talking about
the Ukraine or Uganda. I'm talking about the United States of America
"with liberty and justice for all."

Well, not "all." The nine-to-one Black-to-White ballot spoilage rate is
a national statistic—not just an Ohio trick. Last year, I flew to New
Mexico to investigate the 33,981 cast but not counted ballots of that
state in the 2004 race. George Bush "won" New Mexico by 5,988 votes. Or
did he? I calculated that, of the all the ballots rejected and
"spoiled," 89% were cast by voters of color. Who won New Mexico? Kerry
won—or he would have, if they had counted the ballots.

But they didn't count them. And that was deliberate. It's in the plan.
It's the program. And the program for 2008 is simple. Two million
ballots were cast but not counted in the 2000 race. (Over half, 54%,
were cast by African-American.) In 2004, the GOP kicked it up to THREE
million. Get ready, these guys aim high: "four in '06" and "five in '08"
looks to be their game plan.

How will they pile up five million un-voters in 2008? Let's start with
the three million "disappeared" of 2004:

Step 1: "Spoiling" ballots—1,389,231 of them. In the vote-count game,
these are called "undervotes" and "overvotes." You can recognize these
lost ballots by their hanging chads, punch cards without punches (an
Ohio specialty), paper ballots eaten by scanners, and touch screens that
didn't know you touched them.

Step 2: Rejecting "provisional ballots"-- 1,090,729 in this pile. Voters
finding themselves at the "wrong" precinct, or wrongly "scrubbed" from
voter rolls get these back-of-the-bus ballots first inaugurated in 2002.
In '04, provisional ballots were passed out like candy to voters in the
poorest precincts. They handed them out—then threw them away—one million
dumped in all. In Ohio, Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell
changed state rules, allowing him to toss out the ballots of legal
voters who cast ballots in the wrong precinct although these citizens
were told their vote would count after confirming their registration.

Step 3: Not counting absentee ballots—526,420 of them. At least, that's
what we figure from official stats. But it's anyone's guess how many
mailed-in votes were dumped. (However, in one case, in Palm Beach,
Florida, Jeb Bush's candidate for Elections Supervisor, Theresa LaPore,
counted more absentee votes than absentee ballots mailed in. Not the
brightest bulb in the vote-fix biz, that Theresa.)

Step 4: Scrub'm, Purge'm, Block'm. These are the voters who never got to
vote at all. This group includes those who found their registrations
were never entered on the voter rolls. In Ohio, about one-fourth of
those registered by Jesse Jackson's 2004 voter drive, found their
registrations delayed beyond the election date or lost.

Add to this un-voter group, those who were wrongly "scrubbed" from
registries as "felons." For example, there was Bernice Kines, purged in
Florida in 2004 because she was convicted of a felony on July 31, 2009.
I repeat: 2009. There was something especially odd about the Ohio felon
purge: ex-cons are ALLOWED to vote in that state, Mr. Blackwell.

How many lost their chance to vote by scrubbing, purging and blocking?
That's anyone's guess, but one million would not be an unfair
estimate—and that's not included in the 3.6 million tally of ballots
uncounted.

Was it deliberate? Oh my God, yes. I'd like you to take a look at the
"caging" lists the Republican National Committee concocted to challenge
voters with "suspect" addresses. It included page after page of
African-American soldiers, like one Randall Prausa, shipped overseas.
Mission accomplished, Mr. President?

And there's some new tricks for these old dogs. For the 2006 and 2008,
the GOP is pushing new Voter ID requirements. Your signature won't be
good enough anymore.

What's wrong with the new ID laws? This: in the 2004 election, 300,000
voters were turned away from the polls for "wrong" ID. For example, in
the "Little Texas" counties in New Mexico, if your voter registration
included a middle initial but your driver's license had none, you were
kicked out of the polling station. Funny, but they only seemed to ask
Hispanic voters. We should see the number of voters rejected for ID to
quintuple by 2008 based on the new "voting reform" laws recently passed
in several states.

Also, coming to a polling station near you: more caging lists, scrub
lists, ID challenge lists and more. Exactly why do you think they are
compiling those "War on Terror" and War on Immigration databases? Behind
the 2000 felon purge lists and behind the 2004 caging lists were
databases from the same companies that now have those homeland security
contracts. Are they saving us from Osama—or from Democrats?

I wish I could give you a book on a page, because information is our
weapon: Turn on the lights and the cockroaches scatter. That's why I'm
asking you to read RFK's article on the Theft of Ohio—and GET ANGRY.
Then read, "Armed Madhouse: & The Scheme to Steal '08"—AND GET READY.

**********
BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast is author of ARMED MADHOUSE:
Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf?, The Scheme to Steal 'O8, No Child's Behind
Left and other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War—out
Tuesday. Or order it at www.ArmedMadhouse.com

It's always so funny when your candidate (Liberal/Democrat/Marxist) WINS, there
is no cheating, no theft, etc. But when they LOSE, all hell breaks loose!

Boggling.