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Mike[_2_] November 1st 08 02:17 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero. We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of
his calibre in America!

Mike,
Louisville, KY


Dave[_18_] November 1st 08 11:09 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
Telamon wrote:
In article


Isn't it ironic that had they heeded McCain's warnings back in 2005-6
about Fredie and Fannie it is very likely McCain would likely be the
next President.


The Dem's with Barney in charge did what they wanted on the banking and
fiance committee actually encouraging bad lending as policy at
government lending agencies creating this economic fiasco.

Instead the Liberal fascistic media allow the Democrats to get away
with lies, extortion, fraud and theft of your home, pension and 401K.


The Financial Services Committee was chaired by a Republican during the
time in question:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mike_Oxley

Dave[_18_] November 1st 08 11:09 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.

Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.


How about flying over enemy territory and getting shot down? Does that
make him a hero?


No.

Telamon November 2nd 08 12:07 AM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article


Isn't it ironic that had they heeded McCain's warnings back in 2005-6
about Fredie and Fannie it is very likely McCain would likely be the
next President.


The Dem's with Barney in charge did what they wanted on the banking and
fiance committee actually encouraging bad lending as policy at
government lending agencies creating this economic fiasco.

Instead the Liberal fascistic media allow the Democrats to get away
with lies, extortion, fraud and theft of your home, pension and 401K.


The Financial Services Committee was chaired by a Republican during the
time in question:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mike_Oxley


Nope. Barney has been running things since 2004.

Let's hear it for "4 more years".

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon November 2nd 08 12:11 AM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.
Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.


How about flying over enemy territory and getting shot down? Does that
make him a hero?


No.


Well I think it does. Going into battle where you get shot at qualifies.
He did do his duty fighting for his country.

I think even landing a jet on a carrier deck qualifies him. You probably
have no idea how difficult that is.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Bernard Peters[_2_] November 2nd 08 12:15 AM

We Owe Respect to John McCain (The Privileged Class)
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:



No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero. We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of his
calibre in America!


Because he had a PRIVILEGED Admiral father in the service..
His poor scores in pilot's school...
He dis-obeyed commands about his mission...
Leading him to be shot down.....
Loosing a multi-million $$$ aircraft....(beside the other three)
breaking under 5 years of torture and brainwashing...
being "nuts" as described by his own party in 2000

Any other servicemen would not have made it past flight school much less
not be court-marshaled for loosing 4 Aircraft. It sure would be nice to
be one of the privileged, then of course I'd vote for him as a hero!

Telamon November 2nd 08 12:28 AM

We Owe Respect to John McCain (The Privileged Class)
 
In article ,
Bernard Peters wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:



No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero. We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of his
calibre in America!


Because he had a PRIVILEGED Admiral father in the service..
His poor scores in pilot's school...
He dis-obeyed commands about his mission...
Leading him to be shot down.....
Loosing a multi-million $$$ aircraft....(beside the other three)
breaking under 5 years of torture and brainwashing...
being "nuts" as described by his own party in 2000

Any other servicemen would not have made it past flight school much less
not be court-marshaled for loosing 4 Aircraft. It sure would be nice to
be one of the privileged, then of course I'd vote for him as a hero!


Let say you are 100% correct about what you wrote above. The guy still
few a plane into hostile territory. The guy still got into a jet after
bailing out 3 times.

McCain is a war hero. He is also a person with poor judgement and
impulse control. I don't like him, his policies, his judgement in
general but the guy faced fire and kept on flying missions anyway until
he was captured. Most people would skulk away somehow rather than do
their duty as McCain has done.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Dave[_18_] November 2nd 08 12:40 AM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article
Isn't it ironic that had they heeded McCain's warnings back in 2005-6
about Fredie and Fannie it is very likely McCain would likely be the
next President.
The Dem's with Barney in charge did what they wanted on the banking and
fiance committee actually encouraging bad lending as policy at
government lending agencies creating this economic fiasco.

Instead the Liberal fascistic media allow the Democrats to get away
with lies, extortion, fraud and theft of your home, pension and 401K.

The Financial Services Committee was chaired by a Republican during the
time in question:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mike_Oxley


Nope. Barney has been running things since 2004.

Let's hear it for "4 more years".


Rep. Frank was "Ranking Member" until 1 January 2007, when he became
Chairman.

Telamon November 2nd 08 01:27 AM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article
Isn't it ironic that had they heeded McCain's warnings back in 2005-6
about Fredie and Fannie it is very likely McCain would likely be the
next President.
The Dem's with Barney in charge did what they wanted on the banking and
fiance committee actually encouraging bad lending as policy at
government lending agencies creating this economic fiasco.

Instead the Liberal fascistic media allow the Democrats to get away
with lies, extortion, fraud and theft of your home, pension and 401K.
The Financial Services Committee was chaired by a Republican during the
time in question:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mike_Oxley


Nope. Barney has been running things since 2004.

Let's hear it for "4 more years".


Rep. Frank was "Ranking Member" until 1 January 2007, when he became
Chairman.


This is a good summary.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch...ush/2008-10/ms
g00083.html

Wrecks, Lies and Barney Frank

Quote:

In truth, the Bill that would have likely averted the Fannie/Freddy
failure -- the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of
2005 (S. 190) -- was Republican legislation introduced by Sen. Charles
Hagel [R-NE] in January of 2005. And it was the Democrats who opposed
it in committee, fearing that its restrictions and portfolio caps
might impair mortgage market liquidity, and subsequently, affordable
housing. Despite the "nay" votes of all 9 Democrats on the Senate
Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, the bill moved to
the Senate floor, where it died in limbo lacking a filibuster-proof
majority. The Bill was reintroduced in the 110th Congress as S. 1100,
but was kept on ice by committee chairman Chris Dodd, who,
coincidently, received $133,900 in grease from Fannie and Freddie over
the past decade.

What's more, the "regulation" Frank now takes credit for was not his
(H.R.1427 passed the House last year but never escaped Senate
committee) but rather Nancy Pelosi's (H.R. 3221 - The Housing and
Economic Recovery Act of 2008). And Pelosi's version, not surprisingly
and unlike its Republican predecessors, was signed marked up with over
66 pages of Liberal wealth redistribution wish-fulfillment under the
guise of assuring "affordable housing." While it did establish (and
way too late, Barney) the Federal Housing Finance Agency, with
regulatory authority over Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, the Federal Home
Loan Banks, and the Office of Finance, it's bogged down with tons of
pork-fat. This oinker even increased the national debt limit from
$9.82 trillion to $10.62 trillion, and commissioned a boatload of
programs for low income families to spend it on.

Frank did, however, introduce legislation of his own in October of
last year. Would you believe that H.R. 3838 was actually an attempt to
temporarily increase the caps on Fannie/Freddie portfolios and to
mandate the "use of 85% of such increase for refinancing subprime
mortgages at risk of foreclosure?"

Funny how the congressman neglected to mention that when he assured
another C-SPAN caller that:

"Yes, I did want to help affordable housing, but I also wanted to
prevent bad loans."

Simply hilarious, especially considering the joyous September 18th
2007 announcement on the congressman's own website that Maxine Waters'
H.R.1852 had passed the House. As proudly emphasized by co-sponsor
Frank at the time, the Bill authorized "zero and lower down payment
loans for borrowers that can afford mortgage payments, but lack the
cash for a required down payment." It also "more than doubled"
funding to counsel "subprime homebuyers and borrowers late on mortgage
loan payments" and directed the FHA "to provide mortgage loans to
higher risk (but qualified) borrowers, without authorizing unnecessary
fee hikes on such borrowers." It also raised "FHA single family loan
limits, which now bar loans above 95% of the median home price in each
local area and shut FHA out of higher cost home markets."

That was last year. Four years after the Bush Administration had
sounded the alarm. Yet, shortly after his C-SPAN appearance last
Sunday, Frank responded to the Boston Herald questioning his awful
projections of half a decade ago with "in 2003, nobody that I knew of
foresaw the crisis of subprime lending, and that is what caused this
problem."

Does anybody really believe that the chairman of Financial Services
somehow fails to understand the ingredients of the bad loans that have
created all of the toxic paper at the root of this problem?

Un-quote.

More to read there and other places. Have fun.

Don't bother with the self-serving BS Barney himself spews.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF November 2nd 08 02:09 AM

(OT) : We Owe Respect to John McCain -but- How Will History RememberHim ?
 
On Nov 1, 7:17*am, Mike wrote:
I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero. We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of
his calibre in America!

Mike,
Louisville, KY


MWB - That We Do. That We Do. RESPECT THE McCAIN !

D'Oh ! Does anyone remember that Bob Dole ran
against Bill Clinton in 1996 ? ... bob ? who ?

Most likely 'history' will remember John "Smiley"
McCain as a Foot-Note being the 'guy' who LOST to
Barack Hussein Obama the First African-American
{Black} US President.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC837oh98_Y

-obtw- Anyone know of a New Orleans Jazz Band*
version of Oh Hail to the Chief ? ;-)
* The Time They Are A changing, Changing. CHANGING !

it's a 'vision' thing ~ RHF

RHF November 2nd 08 02:31 AM

(OT) : The Views and Comments of Foreign Trolls and LackeyInternational Toads
 
On Nov 1, 5:28*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Bernard Peters wrote:



On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:


I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:


No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero. We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of his
calibre in America!


Because he had a PRIVILEGED Admiral father in the service..
His poor scores in pilot's school...
He dis-obeyed commands about his mission...
Leading him to be shot down.....
Loosing a multi-million $$$ aircraft....(beside the other three)
breaking under 5 years of torture and brainwashing...
being "nuts" as described by his own party in 2000


Any other servicemen would not have made it past flight school much less
not be court-marshaled for loosing 4 Aircraft. It sure would be nice to
be one of the privileged, then of course I'd vote for him as a hero!


Let say you are 100% correct about what you wrote above. The guy still
few a plane into hostile territory. The guy still got into a jet after
bailing out 3 times.

McCain is a war hero. He is also a person with poor judgement and
impulse control. I don't like him, his policies, his judgement in
general but the guy faced fire and kept on flying missions anyway until
he was captured. Most people would skulk away somehow rather than do
their duty as McCain has done.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Telamon,

You are trying to debate American Politics with
someone who at best is an American who chooses
to use a Foreign Newsgroup Server "albasani.net"
origination out of "gmx.at" {Osterreich}. And
at worst BP is a Foreigner : So BP's views and
comments on American Politics simply do not
matter to Americans who are the Only Ones with
the real Right to Vote in American Elections.

imho - bp - is just another foreign troll
or want to be lackey international toad ~ RHF

Bernard Peters[_2_] November 2nd 08 02:55 AM

(OT) : The Views and Comments of Foreign Trolls and LackeyInternational Toads
 
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:31:06 -0700, RHF wrote:

On Nov 1, 5:28Â*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
Â*Bernard Peters wrote:



On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:


I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook
in today's National Journal:


You are trying to debate American Politics with someone who at best is
an American who chooses to use a Foreign Newsgroup Server "albasani.net"
origination out of "gmx.at" {Osterreich}. And at worst BP is a
Foreigner : So BP's views and comments on American Politics simply do
not matter to Americans who are the Only Ones with the real Right to
Vote in American Elections.

imho - bp - is just another foreign troll or want to be lackey
international toad ~ RHF
.


State side usenet newservers are now rare as republican'ts were unable to
control their authors and post. Hopefully, warrant-less wiretaps and eves
dropping will become a thing of the past once the republican'ts are
removed from office and free speech in usenet groups is restored.

Until then, I must use foreign news servers because just like health care
and education, the united states has moved from the top of the list to
somewhere much lower thanks to republican'ts.

RFI-EMI-GUY November 2nd 08 07:10 AM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.


Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.

We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of
his calibre in America!

Mike,
Louisville, KY


He was on SNL tonight, got quite a few Boo's from the audience. I feel
sorry for him, but my vote went elsewhere. He is in the wrong party at
the wrong time.

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

"Follow The Money" ;-P

Billy Burpelson[_2_] November 2nd 08 08:13 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 


No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.

Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.


Telamon wrote:

How about flying over enemy territory and getting shot down? Does that
make him a hero?


....not when he was being a "maverick" and disobeying orders from his
commanding officer. Maybe if he followed orders, he wouldn't have been
shot down.

Telamon November 2nd 08 08:33 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.
Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.


Telamon wrote:

How about flying over enemy territory and getting shot down? Does that
make him a hero?


...not when he was being a "maverick" and disobeying orders from his
commanding officer. Maybe if he followed orders, he wouldn't have been
shot down.


Maybe if you were there guiding his decisions with your superior
hindsight he would not have been shot down.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Mike[_2_] November 2nd 08 08:37 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
On Nov 2, 3:13�pm, Billy Burpelson wrote:

...not when he was being a "maverick" and disobeying orders from his
commanding officer. Maybe if he followed orders, he wouldn't have been
shot down.


As the highest-ranking POW and the son and grandson of US admirals,
the Vietnamese offered to release McCain due to his extensive
injuries. He declined and was actually tortured more for denying the
North Vietnamese their propaganda coup. He has been quoted as saying
he couldn't leave the other men behind. To this day, he can't lift his
arms above his shoulders. I won't be voting for Senator McCain, but
I'm not really going to allow you to demean this man's heroic courage.

Shut up.


RHF November 3rd 08 05:15 AM

(OT) : The Views and Comments of Foreign Trolls and LackeyInternational Toads
 
On Nov 1, 6:55*pm, Bernard Peters wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:31:06 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Nov 1, 5:28*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Bernard Peters wrote:


On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:


I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook
in today's National Journal:


You are trying to debate American Politics with someone who at best is
an American who chooses to use a Foreign Newsgroup Server "albasani.net"
origination out of "gmx.at" {Osterreich}. *And at worst BP is a
Foreigner : So BP's views and comments on American Politics simply do
not matter to Americans who are the Only Ones with the real Right to
Vote in American Elections.


imho - bp - is just another foreign troll or want to be lackey
international toad ~ RHF
*.


State side usenet newservers are now rare as republican'ts were unable to
control their authors and post. Hopefully, warrant-less wiretaps and eves
dropping will become a thing of the past once the republican'ts are
removed from office and free speech in usenet groups is restored.

Until then, I must use foreign news servers because just like health care
and education, the united states has moved from the top of the list to
somewhere much lower thanks to republican'ts.


BP - The Obamanistas© Will Soon Be On The March.

First They Took My Mouse

Then They Took My Keyboard

Next They Took My Monitor

Followed By My Computer {The Box}

and Last They Took My Power Strip

In The End I Was Powerless To Stop Them

From Taking You Too . . .

stomp, stomp, stomp,

Stomp. Stomp. Stomp.

STOMP ! STOMP ! STOMP !

'bp' watch-out they are heading your way ~ RHF

Radioguy November 3rd 08 02:21 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
On Nov 1, 9:17*am, Mike wrote:
I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."


At the beginning and throughout this race McCain got the same "chance"
the other candidates got. Whether he wins or not is dependent on what
he does with the opportunity.



No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.


He is no more of a hero than the other candidates who are running for
president. Whether he was a POW 30 plus years ago has no bearing on
the qualities needed to run this country.


We owe him a great deal of respect.


Just as we owe all of the candidates our respect.

We are very lucky to have candidates of his calibre in America!


Yes, I agree we have had several high caliber candidates in this race,
including McCain and Obama.


Mike,
Louisville, KY



Dave[_18_] November 3rd 08 02:48 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
Radioguy wrote:

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.


He is no more of a hero than the other candidates who are running for
president. Whether he was a POW 30 plus years ago has no bearing on
the qualities needed to run this country


A true hero is a soldier who refuses to follow unlawful orders, like he
swore to do. Fighting corporate wars of opportunity is not defending my
freedom in the least.

I do not recognize blind obedience as a positive trait. I see the
majority of our forces as tools of greed.

If war is to end, the fighters must quit allowing themselves to be
abused in this manner by "leaders" with questionable motives.

Resist!

harvey[_2_] November 3rd 08 02:48 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.


Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.

Better McCane than the ChickenHawks who Lied us into another War;

- Akin to attacking Mexico after Pearl Harbor

- A war, Which has gone on longer than VietNam

- Which is costing us Ten Billion Dollars A Month


- Then again

McCane voted with Bush all the way on Invading Iraq

- Send him back to Arizona to lie in the sun





MnMikew November 3rd 08 03:33 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook in
today's National Journal:

"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and the
stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country admirably.
And many would say that he deserved a better chance than he got."

No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero. We owe
him a great deal of respect. We are very lucky to have candidates of
his calibre in America!

Mike,
Louisville, KY

Agreed. Seems were stuck with Obamao for 4.



MnMikew November 3rd 08 03:38 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Mike wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:08�pm, dxAce wrote:

Now go back to pretending you have a PhD, and Obama can continue to
pretend he has
some experience


I don't claim to have a PhD.


But you certainly did, before I pulled the plug on you!

You've even called my school and tried to
get my Dean to fire me based on that claim.


I did no such thing. I called merely to verify YOUR claim of having a PhD.

I have completed all the
coursework for my doctorate, but have not finished the dissertation.
It's not a requirement for my current job. I see that whole diversion
to be very equivalent to the idiots claiming Obama wasn't born in the
US.

Thanks for showing everyone "the low road" tactics that at least some
Republicans seem to so easily embrace in defense of their own self-
righteousness.


The "low road" is pointing out the truth? You seem to think so and so does
Obama and his
supporters.



Go ahead and make your last response. I'm blocking you. Your re-post
of URLs from DXLD isn't really worth putting up with your constant ill-
mannered nonsense.


The truth about your lying hurts, doesn't it? And the truth about Obama
hurts as well!

NoBama!


ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the lowest
of low.



MnMikew November 3rd 08 03:40 PM

(OT) : The Views and Comments of Foreign Trolls and Lackey International Toads
 

"Bernard Peters" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:31:06 -0700, RHF wrote:

On Nov 1, 5:28 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
Bernard Peters wrote:



On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700, Mike wrote:

I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook
in today's National Journal:


You are trying to debate American Politics with someone who at best is
an American who chooses to use a Foreign Newsgroup Server "albasani.net"
origination out of "gmx.at" {Osterreich}. And at worst BP is a
Foreigner : So BP's views and comments on American Politics simply do
not matter to Americans who are the Only Ones with the real Right to
Vote in American Elections.

imho - bp - is just another foreign troll or want to be lackey
international toad ~ RHF
.


State side usenet newservers are now rare as republican'ts were unable to
control their authors and post. Hopefully, warrant-less wiretaps and eves
dropping will become a thing of the past once the republican'ts are
removed from office and free speech in usenet groups is restored.

You sound like the tinfoil fedora type.



Dave[_17_] November 3rd 08 10:35 PM

We Owe Respect to John McCain
 
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:09:28 -0800, bpnjensen wrote:

On Nov 1, 1:28Â*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 07:17:11 -0700 (PDT), Mike
wrote:


I was particularly struck and humbled by the words of Charlie Cook
in today's National Journal:


"At this point, John McCain probably can't win without divine
intervention. Say what you will about the campaign he has waged and
the running mate he picked, but the collapse in credit markets and
the stock market may very well have ended his chances of victory,
notwithstanding anything he could have said or done differently. The
senator from Arizona is a good man, who served his country
admirably. And many would say that he deserved a better chance than
he got."


No matter what your politics, John McCain is an American hero.


Mcain was a P.O.W. Thats to bad. But it doesn't make him a hero.


How about flying over enemy territory and getting shot down? Does that
make him a hero?

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What makes him a hero is the fact that he was willing to put his life on
the line and go defend his nation. It isn't the flying over and being
shot down, but rather the act of heading off to do his duty. Just like
my Dad and millions of other great guys and gals. Being a hero IS a
great thing, but it is not anything close to unique.

Added to that, and perhaps more importantly, is his determination and
maturation in the face of the horrid conditions he faced. That is the
most important "hero's journey" (in the words of famous mythologist
Joseph Campbell) he faced, and one which does, indeed, put him a special
category compared to most others.

Maybe it was karma for bombing civilians in a country that wished us no
harm, at least until we started shooting at them. War sucks. People who
make war suck.

dxAce[_17_] November 3rd 08 11:10 PM

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Mike wrote:

On Nov 3, 10:38 am, "MNMikeW" wrote:

ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the lowest
of low


Well, I don't think there's any doubt that Steve Lare is a little
unhinged...


Unhinged would be lying about having a PhD...



MnMikew November 3rd 08 11:21 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

On Nov 3, 10:38 am, "MNMikeW" wrote:

ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the
lowest
of low


Well, I don't think there's any doubt that Steve Lare is a little
unhinged...


Unhinged would be lying about having a PhD...


Jesus Christ how long are you going to dwell on this anyway.



dxAce[_17_] November 3rd 08 11:24 PM

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MNMikeW wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

On Nov 3, 10:38 am, "MNMikeW" wrote:

ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the
lowest
of low

Well, I don't think there's any doubt that Steve Lare is a little
unhinged...


Unhinged would be lying about having a PhD...


Jesus Christ how long are you going to dwell on this anyway.


Every time a little opportunity pops up!

Sorry it bothers you.

It is both interesting and sad that both he and 'Eduardo' have that same little
personality quirk.



Bernard Peters[_2_] November 4th 08 01:21 AM

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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:38:24 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:08�pm, dxAce wrote:


The truth about your lying hurts, doesn't it? And the truth about Obama
hurts as well!

NoBama!


ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the
lowest of low.


This is the de facto practice of any republican't as it avoids having to
talk about the real issues that they would either loose or they know
nothing about.

[email protected] November 4th 08 01:53 AM

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Obama born in Kenya: Rev.Kweli Shuhubia's sworn affidavit.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=944910
cuhulin


dxAce[_17_] November 4th 08 02:59 AM

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Bernard Peters wrote:

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:38:24 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:08�pm, dxAce wrote:

The truth about your lying hurts, doesn't it? And the truth about Obama
hurts as well!

NoBama!


ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the
lowest of low.


This is the de facto practice of any republican't as it avoids having to
talk about the real issues that they would either loose or they know
nothing about.


Loose?



BobS[_3_] November 4th 08 11:51 PM

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MNMikeW wrote:
"Bernard Peters" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:38:24 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Mike wrote:

On Nov 2, 5:08?pm, dxAce wrote:
The truth about your lying hurts, doesn't it? And the truth about Obama
hurts as well!

NoBama!


ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the
lowest of low.

This is the de facto practice of any republican't as it avoids having to
talk about the real issues that they would either loose or they know
nothing about.


Your an idiot.




And you're just finding this out!

bpnjensen November 5th 08 09:24 PM

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On Nov 4, 8:26*am, "MNMikeW" wrote:
"Bernard Peters" wrote in message

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On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:38:24 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:


On Nov 2, 5:08?pm, dxAce wrote:


The truth about your lying hurts, doesn't it? And the truth about Obama
hurts as well!


NoBama!


ANYONE who goes after ones employer because of a Usenet post is the
lowest of low.


This is the de facto practice of any republican't as it avoids having to
talk about the real issues that they would either loose or they know
nothing about.


Your an idiot.- Hide quoted text -


You misspelled "You're."


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