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Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

Is the discredited smear campaign backfiring on Republicans?
Last Updated: Thursday, October 16, 2008 | 4:29 PM ET
Neil Macdonald CBC News
Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain takes back the
microphone from Gayle Quinnell who said she read that Senator Barack
Obama 'was an Arab,' during a town hall meeting in Lakeville, Minn., on
Oct. 10. (Jim Mone/Associated Press)

The "moment in Minnesota" appeared last Friday like the white, infected
head of a pimple - impossible to miss, hard not to stare at, and
embarrassing, at least to John McCain, who wants to present an
unblemished face to the voting public.
Wearing her bright red McCain-Palin T-shirt, Gayle Quinnell rose from
the crowd at a rally in Lakeville, Minn. to give her candidate a little
of his signature straight talk.

"I don't trust Obama," she announced, as McCain nodded enthusiastically.
Then she continued: "I have read about him. He's an Arab."

And there it was. Centre stage, on camera, about as public as you can
get. The political pus that's been building for nearly two years under
the surface of this presidential campaign, oozing forth in broad
daylight.

McCain, a politician who's been around long enough to recognize a
"moment" when he sees one, cauterized quickly.

"No. Nope. No, ma'am. No, ma'am," said the candidate, grabbing back the
mike. "He's a decent family man citizen that I just happen to have
disagreements with . . ."

But, setting aside the internal implication of McCain's reply - that
Obama can't be an Arab if he's a decent citizen and family man - and its
impact on the sensibilities of this country's 3.5 million Arab-American
citizens, McCain cannot have been too surprised by what he faced on that
stage. Because his campaign has helped create it.
'Radical'

Gayle Quinnell is in fact the collective voice of hundreds of thousands,
perhaps millions of Americans whose nativist fears Republicans have been
stoking for months. The Americans who have been passing on smear-mails
for years.
"Beware," said the first one I saw, back in January of 2007. "Obama
takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim."

It went on to reveal that Obama's African father was a "radical Muslim."
and that Obama himself had studied at an extremist school in Jakarta.
Other messages declare Obama refused to be sworn into the Senate on a
Bible. Or that he refuses to recite the pledge of allegiance.

The e-mails are patently false, and have been widely debunked. But
whisper campaigns are as persistent as the flu.

Widespread

Clearly - witness Ms. Quinnell in Minnesota - the message has had an
effect. Any reporter who's covered this campaign has seen it.
I heard it in May, as parishioners gathered outside a Baptist church in
North Carolina. And I've heard it in the highly-educated, genteel
suburbs of Washington.

A colleague says he's encountered the same thing in Indiana,
Pennsylvania and Missouri: "It's usually 'I know he says he isn't, but I
think he's a Muslim.' You hear it everywhere."

The whisper campaign seems particularly directed at Jewish voters,
playing on their fears that Obama might not be pro-Israel enough, or
that he is somehow in league with Muslims, read Arabs, read terrorists.

But Jewish readers of the New York Times might have been surprised this
week by an article that identified where a lot of this stuff originated:
Andy Martin, a conspiracy theorist who once set for himself the goal of
"exterminating Jew power." Martin is apparently fond of filing lawsuits,
some of which use even more pungent anti-Semitic rhetoric. He once filed
a brief calling a judge a "crooked, slimy Jew."

Martin evidently isn't too keen on Muslims, either, and he was one of
the first out of the gate questioning Obama's heritage.

The Times investigation traced the origin of the smear-mail campaign to
Martin's self-published writings. And by the time the presidential race
got under way, the e-mails had laid a foundation for organized
conservative attacks.
Speakers at Republican events began referring to "Barack Hussein Obama,"
with heavy emphasis on their opponent's middle name.

At a McCain rally in Iowa, Rev. Arnold Conrad told the crowd: "There are
millions of people around this world praying to their God - whether it's
Hindu, Buddha, Allah - that [Obama] wins, for a variety of reasons."
Those people, declared the churchman, would think their God bigger than
the Christian God if that were to happen.

McCain's campaign approach

Early on, McCain himself demurred. He chastised a conservative talk-show
host for warming up one of his crowds with the "Barack Hussein Obama"
line, and distanced himself from Rev. Conrad: "I will not tolerate
anything in this campaign that denigrates either Sen. Obama or Sen.
[Hillary] Clinton," said McCain.

But this fall, as Obama's campaign gathered force, McCain evidently
decided to tolerate some mud after all.

Speakers introducing him at rallies again started using the "Barack
Hussein Obama" line, now with the Republican candidate standing nearby
smiling.
And McCain's surrogates, led by his running mate Sarah Palin, began
sharpening a more specific story line.

They seized upon Obama's past association with William Ayers, who, along
with other members of the radical Weathermen group, bombed various
government targets, including the Pentagon, in the early 1970s.

Ayers long ago turned himself in and became a university professor and
community organizer. In those capacities, he met Obama during the
mid-90s. The two served together on a civic project founded by the
Annenberg Foundation, and Ayers's work won him the Chicago Citizen of
the Year Award in 1997.

To Palin, though, what Obama did in the mid-90s was to forge a close and
enduring tie with a "domestic terrorist." In fact, she has told rally
after rally, Obama is even now "palling around with terrorists who would
target their own country." No explanation of how a "domestic terrorist"
became "terrorists." And not even any lip service to Obama's repudiation
of Ayers's past bad acts.

The Republican chairman in Virginia, Jeffrey M. Fredrick, goes further.
He compares Obama to Osama Bin Laden. "Both have friends who bombed the
Pentagon," he says. "That is scary."
And so on. Obama as a terrorist, Obama as a Muslim, Obama as someone
fundamentally different, someone mysterious to Americans, who doesn't
share American values. Obama, who seems to want to lose in Iraq.

Resolute despite contradiction

By last week, the crowds at McCain rallies were turning ugly. Mention of
Obama's name invoked cries of "terrorist!" or "bomb him!" or "traitor!"
or "off with his head!"

And little wonder, given this country's not-so-distant history, that the
Secret Service contingent surrounding Obama is now laying on security
measures rivaling those of the president himself.
McCain has begun trying to tamp down the hostility, telling supporters
at rallies that they have "no reason to be scared" of Obama.

But Gayle Quinnell, for one, remains resolute. Obama, she told reporters
after her moment on stage last week with McCain, is "a Muslim and a
terrorist . . .all the people agree with what I said."
And Fox News Channel, of course, remains hot on the case.

A few days ago, Fox host Sean Hannity broadcast a segment titled: "Obama
and Friends: The History of Radicalism." In it, introduced by Hannity as
an "author and journalist," was none other than Andy Martin, originator
of the anti-Obama e-mails.
Martin helpfully explained to Hannity that Obama spent his early years
"in training for a radical overthrow of the government."
Effective?

All of this, however, may now have actually turned against McCain.

The New York Times published a new poll this week suggesting Obama now
enjoys as much as a 14-point lead over McCain in the polls. And some of
that, said the paper, is directly because of the character attacks.

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

In article
,
Telamon wrote:

In article ,
Bernard Peters wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:12:17 -0700, Telamon wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

So does that mean McCain't was brought up Voodoo coming from Panama? Has
he taken the mob oath of his mobster wife?

Very funny.

Here is what you will find out to late about O-bla-ma after Nov 3.

You won't see this on keep you stupid TV.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=210653

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

In article ,
BDK wrote:

In article telamon_spamshield-B0B99D.20121701112008
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
lid says...
In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

You really need to calm down and read a little, and stop spouting
nonsense.

I'm fine and have read more than I care to know about O-bla-ma.

You need to wise up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

I'm pretty sure he's an agnostic, vis a vis religion as well as
political dogma. Let's see who he hires to be advising him before we
panic. eh?

Obama's Disturbing Muslim Outreach

On Nov 1, 8:39*pm, wrote:
[ObaMao Communist Propapagnda Lies Snipped and Burned in the Ash Heap of The Internet]

Obama's Disturbing Muslim Outreach

Obama's Muslim Outreach Coordinator, Mazen Asbahi, resigned in August
after only ten days in his position, when it was revealed that he had
ties to groups associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article...741214995.html
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6386

The question is no longer about what kind of judgment was used in
bringing Asbahi on a campaign that has been plague with questionable
advisors and mentors, but whether Asbahi has actually left.

Asbahi's official stint on the Obama team ended when it came to light
that he was one of six trustees of Allied Asset Advisors Funds,

http://www.secinfo.com/dR972.59y.c.htm

a subsidiary the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT)

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=7423

and an advisor to the Dow Jones Islamic Fund. Both NAIT and Dow Jones
Islamic Fund fall under the umbrella of Islamic Society of North
America (ISNA).

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6178

NAIT, which owns nearly a third of all U.S. mosques and Muslim
centers,

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/news.php?p=4563&c=1

many funded by the Saudi government, advocates a radical form of
Islam. In fact, a Chicago Tribune investigation revealed that NAIT
played an important role in the takeover of a Chicago-area mosque by
Islamic fundamentalists who replaced the more moderate leaders.
(Struggle for the soul of Islam; Hard-liners won battle for Bridgeview
mosque," Chicago Tribune, February 8, 2004)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...37,full..story

In a report annotated by almost 500 sources,

http://globalmbreport.com/wpcontent/...m_and_isna.pdf

the Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report concludes that ""ISNA was
created in the matrix of early organizations design to propagate Saudi/
Muslim Brotherhood fundamentalism throughout the world... ISNA and its
key leaders have a disturbing record of association with organizations
and individuals that are accused and/or convicted of providing
assistance to terrorist organizations as defined by the U.S State
Department... The largest body of evidence concerning these
associations relates to ISNA's support of the Palestinian terrorist
groups Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad."

As with his other radical associations (William Ayers, Samantha Power,
Reverend Wright), Mazen Asbahi may be quietly waiting behind the
scenes to resume his place when the election is over.

Investor's Business Daily reports

http://www.investors.com/editorial/I...issue=20080825

that Asbahi "has not stopped working on behalf of Obama." They quote
the "former" coordinator as saying that, "despite his official exit he
was still "110%" behind Obama and that he was participating in
campaign conference calls on Muslim outreach." Leaving the campaign
was a "strategic decision," according to Asbahi.

This "strategic" decision brings to mind other similar strategic
decisions by Obama. In an article How Barack Obama learned to love
Israel, (The Electronic Intifada, 4 March 2007)

his friend Ali Abunimah

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1426

criticizes Obama's suddenly positive public expressions about Israel.
Abunimah comes to understand Obama's strategy when the two men run
into each other. "As he [Obama] came in from the cold and took off his
coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered,
‘Hey, I'm sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we
are in a tough primary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be
more up front.' He referred to my activism, including columns I was
contributing to The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy.
"

Associates who unnerve, if not terrify, most Americans may be
temporarily put aside for "strategic" campaign purposes, but who will
be influencing the course of the nation if there is an Obama
Whitehouse and the President is finally up front?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...lim_outre.html

The ObaMao - Saudi Connection

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=74877

List of "Progressives" for ObaMao

http://www.therealbarackobama.wordpr...ves-for-obama/

A List of ObaMao’s Communist Friends and Terrorist Associates

http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/0...nd-associates/

Obama's Sturm Abteilung

After Hitler took power in 1933, the "Sturm Abteilung" (civilian
security force) became increasingly eager for power and saw themselves
as the replacement for the German army. This angered the regular army
(Reichswehr) who already resented the Nazi party. It also led to
tension with other leaders within the party who saw Röhm’s
increasingly powerful Sturm Abteilung as a threat to their own
personal ambitions. Originally an adjunct to the Sturm Abteilung, the
Schutzstaffel (SS) was placed under the direct control of Heinrich
Himmler in part to restrict the power of the Sturm Abteilung and their
leaders.

http://forthardknox.com/2008/10/29/o...sturm-obamung/

Krystallnacht!

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

On Nov 2, 7:34*am, Dave wrote:

I'm pretty sure he's an agnostic, vis a vis religion as well as
political dogma. *Let's see who he hires to be advising him before we
panic. eh?- Hide quoted text -

ObaMao is an Atheist Communist Chameleon - HE IS SATAN HIMSELF !

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

On Nov 1, 9:47*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*Bernard Peters wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:12:17 -0700, Telamon wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

So does that mean McCain't was brought up Voodoo coming from Panama? Has
he taken the mob oath of his mobster wife?

Very funny.

- Here is what you will find out to late
- about O-bla-ma after Nov 3.
-
- You won't see this on keep you stupid TV.
-
- http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=210653
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

OK so the claim is that Bill Ayers
'ghost' wrote Obama's Books ?
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=210653

Then what was Obama doing in Indonesia for
Six Months to Two Years; when he 'claims'
He was writing the Books Himself ?

still wondering . . . ~ RHF

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

(OT) : The US Presidency of Barack Hussein Obama - NO Need-to-Panic

On Nov 2, 5:34*am, Dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

- I'm pretty sure he's an agnostic,
- vis a vis religion as well as political dogma.
- Let's see who he hires to be advising him
- before we panic. eh?

Note - Dave we have seen your picture and you're
not 'pretty' - that's a for 'sure' good buddy ;;-)

Dave a Real 'Principled' Agnostic does not :
Choose to Get Baptized as a Christian as Adult
Choose to Get Married in a Christian Church
Choose to Have His Children Baptized as a Christians

? Could it be that Barack Hussein Obama is simply
a 'Born-Again' African-American Christian ?

OR is Barack Hussein Obama may simply be 'practical'
and 'pragmatic' Man with respect to African-American
and Chicago Politics in his 'choice' of both his
Religion and Home Church. Doing what is necessary
to gain Political Power by any and all means.

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

(OT) : The US Presidency of Barack Hussein Obama - NO Need-to-Panic

RHF wrote:
On Nov 2, 5:34 am, Dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html
U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald
Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open
SNIP
Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.
Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

- I'm pretty sure he's an agnostic,
- vis a vis religion as well as political dogma.
- Let's see who he hires to be advising him
- before we panic. eh?

Note - Dave we have seen your picture and you're
not 'pretty' - that's a for 'sure' good buddy ;;-)

Dave a Real 'Principled' Agnostic does not :
Choose to Get Baptized as a Christian as Adult
Choose to Get Married in a Christian Church
Choose to Have His Children Baptized as a Christians

...

OR is Barack Hussein Obama may simply be 'practical'
and 'pragmatic' Man with respect to African-American
and Chicago Politics in his 'choice' of both his
Religion and Home Church. Doing what is necessary
to gain Political Power by any and all means.

Bingo!

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

I'm pretty sure he's an agnostic, vis a vis religion as well as
political dogma. Let's see who he hires to be advising him before we
panic. eh?

There is plenty in his background to panic over that the majority of the
media has seen fit not to reveal. If it wasn't for the Internet that Al
Gore invented I would not know what concerns me bout O-bla-ma.

If there was no Internet and I read the LA Times, watched TV until my
brain turned into mush I would be voting for O-bla-ma.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

CBS Reporter : Obama Plane smells like a Ghetto Crack House Options

On Nov 2, 10:53*am, BDK wrote:
In article 647c0eab-2594-461d-93f1-00be1ffa3bb0
@n1g2000prb.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 2, 7:34*am, Dave wrote:

ObaMao is an Atheist Communist Chameleon - HE IS SATAN HIMSELF !

Please, put down the crack pipe, and pick up your meds.
--
BDK

CBS Reporter : Obama Plane smells like a Ghetto Crack House

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10...y4507703.shtml

While the Obama campaign sanctions supporters’ use of McCain’s age
(younger than Dianne Feinstein, Robert Byrd, and Ted Kennedy by the
way) to suggest that he might have a neurodegenerative disease,
Obama’s admitted use of cocaine puts him at higher risk for mental
impairment.

[Just notice his unscripted, er, broken teleprompter rambling, uh, non-
sensical, um, dribbling speeches.]

It also disqualifies him from access to or control of nuclear weapons
under the Armed Forces’ Nuclear Weapon Personnel Reliability Program.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/do...dd-5210_42.htm

Nuclear Weapon Personnel Reliability Program (PRP) refers to the
(Nuclear Weapon) Personnel Reliability Program, and pre-service
marijuana use is not an automatic disqualifier. Any history of
cocaine
use, however, does permanently disqualify an individual from access
to
or control of nuclear weapons, because the Armed Forces cannot afford
to take the slightest chance on a person with impaired judgment
having
access to weapons that can kill millions of people.

Cocaine and the Nervous System
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/1739

Taking cocaine could cause irreversible brain damage, scientists from
Edinburgh University have warned.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3503931.stm

But WAIT! THERE'S MORE - Sen. ObaMao supports Columbian cocaine drug
cartel!

October 15, 2008 - The Third McCain-Obama Presidential Debate
[...]
MCCAIN: Well, you know, I admire so much Senator Obama's eloquence.
And you really have to pay attention to words.
[...]
Now, on the subject of free trade agreements. I am a free trader.
[...]
But let me give you another example of a free trade agreement that
Senator Obama opposes. Right now, because of previous agreements,
some
made by President Clinton, the goods and products that we send to
[democratic] Colombia, which is OUR LARGEST AGRICULTURAL IMPORTER OF
OUR PRODUCTS, is -- there's a billion dollars that we -- our
businesses have paid so far in order to get our goods in there.

Because of previous agreements, their goods and products come into
our
country for free [Tax free - Americans save money]. So Senator Obama,
who has never traveled south of our border, opposes the Colombia Free
Trade Agreement. The same country that's helping us try to stop the
flow of drugs into our country that's killing young Americans.

And also the country that just freed three Americans that will help
us
create jobs in America because they will be a market for our goods
and
products without having to pay -- without us having to pay the
billions of dollars -- the billion dollars and more that we've
already
paid.

Free trade with [democratic] Colombia is something that's a no-
brainer. But maybe you ought to travel down there and visit them and
maybe you could understand it a lot better.

OBAMA: Let me respond. Actually, I UNDERSTAND IT PRETTY WELL. The
history in Colombia right now is that [MARXIST] LABOR LEADERS have
been targeted for assassination on a fairly consistent basis [see
below] and there have not been prosecutions.

And what I have said, because the free trade -- the trade agreement
itself DOES HAVE labor and environmental protections, but we have to
stand for human rights [for marxists] and we have to make sure that
violence isn't being perpetrated against [marxist] workers [What
about
marxist perpetrators?] who are just trying to organize for their
[marxist] rights, which is why, for example, I supported the Peruvian
Free Trade Agreement which was a well-structured agreement. [NOTE:
The
Peruvian FTA was based on the Andean Trade Preference Act. In 1991,
under the George H. W. Bush administration, the United States enacted
the Andean Trade Preference Act. The program was renewed in 2002 by
the George W. Bush administration as the Andean Trade Promotion and
Drug Eradication Act. OBAMA did nothing! He is an obfuscator!]
[...]

MCCAIN: Well, let me just [say] that... Senator Obama doesn't want a
free trade agreement with our best ally in the region but wants to
sit
down across the table without precondition with [communist dictator]
Hugo Chavez [a murderer], the guy who has been helping [marxist] FARC
[drug cartell], the terrorist organization.

Free trade between ourselves and [democratic] Colombia, I just
recited
to you the benefits of concluding that agreement, a billion dollars
of
American dollars that could have gone to creating jobs and businesses
in the United States, opening up those markets.

....I don't think there's any doubt that Senator OBAMA WANTS TO
RESTRICT TRADE AND HE WANTS TO RAISE TAXES. And the last president of
the United States that tried that was Herbert Hoover, and we went
from
a deep recession into a depression.

We're not going to follow that path when I'm president of the United
States.
[...]
http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2008d.html
-------------------------------------------------------------------

In 2003 Colombian President Alvaro Uribe accused Colombian NGOs of
“politicking at the service of terrorism.” “Every time a security
policy is carried out in Colombia to defeat terrorism, when
terrorists
start feeling weak, they immediately send their spokesmen to talk
about human rights.”

In 2002 over 40 Democrat members of Congress signed a letter to
Secretary of State Colin Powell alleging "human rights violations" by
the Government of Colombia in its war against the drug-running,
marxist guerrilla terrorist Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces,
FARC, established as the military wing of the Colombian Communist
Party. This letter, published worldwide and used as pro-FARC anti-
Government of Colombia propaganda, made no mention of marxist FARC's
thousands of murders, atrocities and support from Cuban Marxist
dictator Fidel Castro and from Venezuela's Marxist caudillo Hugo
Chavez. The letter urged Secretary Powell "to take our concerns into
account when determining whether to approve additional military aid
for Colombia this year."
http://www.ciponline.org/colombia/02072301.htm

The daring rescue this past summer of French-Colombian politician
Ingrid Betancourt and 14 other hostages (including three Americans)
by
Colombian commandos is cause for rejoicing. As Colombian President
Alvaro Uribe put it, the rescue mission was "an unbelievable military
achievement." It marked yet another huge victory for Colombia in its
war on terrorism and another embarrassing defeat for the country's
main leftist guerrilla group--known by its Spanish acronym, FARC--
which had been holding Betancourt since 2002.

During the six years of her captivity, Colombia was transformed.
Murders, kidnappings, and terrorist attacks have all plunged
dramatically. The FARC has been devastated by combat deaths and
desertions; its remaining forces inhabit remote camps deep in the
Colombian jungle, far away from the urban areas. As a result, foreign
investment is pouring into the biggest cities. The World Bank has
lauded Colombia for its economic reforms, which helped GDP grow by
6.8
percent in 2006 and by more than 7 percent in 2007.

When we consider the progress made under President Uribe (who was
first elected in 2002), it is appalling that the U.S. Congress has
refused to approve a free trade agreement (FTA) with Colombia,
ostensibly due to concerns over violence. By any serious measure,
Colombia is a far less violent place today than at any time in recent
years. Democratic House leaders argue that Colombia has not done
enough to stop attacks on trade unionists. That depends on the
meaning
of the word "enough": According to official Colombian statistics,
murders of trade unionists declined from 196 in 2002 to 26 in 2007.
Uribe established a special government-funded program to protect
union
members from violence, and there is no question that their safety has
increased enormously.

Unfortunately, American labor unions--a bulwark of the Democratic
party--are strongly opposed to the free trade pact. (Never mind that
the Free Trade Agreement would mostly benefit U.S. farmers and
exporters.) If the deal has any chance of winning congressional
approval, it will happen after the 2008 election.

Like most Democrats, Barack Obama has come out against the Colombia
Free Trade Agreement and has chastised the Uribe administration for
not doing more to reduce violence. Though Obama speaks often of his
desire to improve U.S. credibility abroad, the Democrats' treatment
of
Colombia is having precisely the opposite effect. Uribe is our
closest
ally in Latin America. If Congress is willing to humiliate him, what
message does that send to other countries in the region?

If Obama saw the results on the ground in Colombia, he would be less
inclined to denounce Uribe over human rights. John McCain was in
Colombia last summer (the same week Betancourt was rescued).

Since 2000, the United States has spent billions of dollars on "Plan
Colombia," an aid package designed to help Colombia stamp out
narcotics trafficking. Though it was expanded by President Bush, Plan
Colombia began as a Clinton administration initiative that enjoyed
strong bipartisan backing in Congress. In other words, close
cooperation with Bogotá is not a "Bush policy."

Colombia is located in a region where Communist Venezuelan leader
Hugo
Chávez is trying to spread radical populism. Americans should affirm
their support for a robust U.S.-Colombia partnership--even if it
angers some prominent socialist Democrats, Liberal Fascist Neo-
Communists and the marxist AFL-CIO crowd.

Recovered Emails Detail the FARC's International Support

Email messages linking the Colombian Marxist guerilla insurgency
(known by its Spanish acronym, FARC) to POLITICIANS, UNION ACTIVISTS
AND LEFT-WING PARTIES OVERSEAS have revealed a network of supporters
spanning several continents, and have kept tensions high between
Colombia and some of its neighbors.

[much more] http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=2742

Heil Hitler! (get used to it)

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

In article ,
Bernard Peters wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:12:17 -0700, Telamon wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open
SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

So does that mean McCain't was brought up Voodoo coming from Panama? Has
he taken the mob oath of his mobster wife?

Telamon wrote:

Very funny.

Maybe so...but you dodged/evaded the point made.

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

Obama's Disturbing Muslim Outreach

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

In article ,
Bernard Peters wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:12:17 -0700, Telamon wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/stor...macdonald.html

U.S. VOTES
Neil Macdonald

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open
SNIP

Baloney. He was brought up Muslim. Then he converted and joined a
radical black Christian church if you can call it that. He renounced his
pro black Christian pastor of the last 20 years earlier this year.

Brought up Muslim, radical black church, associates with terrorists, has
a wife with the same Marxist belief system. That's what you advocate
here you scum bag.

So does that mean McCain't was brought up Voodoo coming from Panama? Has
he taken the mob oath of his mobster wife?

Telamon wrote:

Very funny.

Maybe so...but you dodged/evaded the point made.

His point was to be funny and as usual I got it and you didn't.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Obama 'Muslim' rumour: Ugly, false and out in the open

CBS Reporter : Obama Plane smells like a Ghetto Crack House Options

wrote in message
...

While the Obama campaign sanctions supporters’ use of McCain’s age
(younger than Dianne Feinstein, Robert Byrd, and Ted Kennedy by the
way)

None of whom are running for President, so what exactly is your point?

Obama's Disturbing Muslim Outreach

CBS Reporter : Obama Plane smells like a Ghetto Crack House Options