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Pirate on 1610 kHz?
I'm hearing gospel music.
SoCal 34.4, -118.4 |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
On Nov 30, 10:08*am, Dave wrote:
I'm hearing gospel music. SoCal 34.4, -118.4 Nothing in the USA on 1610 kHz according to the FCC. KSMH 1620 AM (Sacramento, CA) is Catholic Radio KGST - ESPN Deportes 1600 (Fresno, CA) is ESPN Sports in Spanish KAHZ AM 1600 (Orange County, CA) Chinese Audience KTAP 1600 AM (Santa Maria, CA) Spanish So yeah it 'mite' be a Pirate Radio Station. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
RHF wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:08 am, Dave wrote: I'm hearing gospel music. SoCal 34.4, -118.4 Nothing in the USA on 1610 kHz according to the FCC. KSMH 1620 AM (Sacramento, CA) is Catholic Radio KGST - ESPN Deportes 1600 (Fresno, CA) is ESPN Sports in Spanish KAHZ AM 1600 (Orange County, CA) Chinese Audience KTAP 1600 AM (Santa Maria, CA) Spanish So yeah it 'mite' be a Pirate Radio Station. . Probably some hillbilly town bending the rules on their TIS. Can you hear it? |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
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Pirate on 1610 kHz?
"Dave" wrote in message ... wrote: Searching the web Maybe KINO???? which does transmit on 1610 according to a web search & their own webpage If I remember right, 1610 was used to transmit local information at one time & didn't allow public broadcast.... Did you hear this at night or during the day??? It was this morning. 1610 is Travelers' Information Services. There are no regular stations authorized on that channel. I asked Roy if he could pick it up as he is near Oakhurst, but the guy is so drugged-up that never came to pass. CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON CA --- 1.0 kW 105873 CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON CA --- 1.0 kW 105873 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC CA --- 1.0 kW 136195 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC CA --- 1.0 kW 136195 NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON CA --- 1.0 kW 158668 NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA --- 1.0 kW 158668 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON CA --- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 5-- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON CA --- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 4-- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - TORONTO ON CA --- 10.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 7-- 1.0 kW 164929 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC CA --- 1.0 kW 136195 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC CA 9-- 1.0 kW 136195 |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON --- 1.0 kW 105873 CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON --- 1.0 kW 105873 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC --- 1.0 kW 136195 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC --- 1.0 kW 136195 NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 158668 NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 158668 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 5-- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 4-- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 10.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 7-- 1.0 kW 164929 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC --- 1.0 kW 136195 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC CA 9-- 1.0 kW 136195 Forgot to add... for those in the eastern half of the US, these should be fairly easy DX catches, since TIS stations are only allowed, IIRC, 50 watts, and don't have squat for antennas.. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
Brenda Ann wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON --- 1.0 kW 105873 CFOS AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - COLLINGWOOD ON --- 1.0 kW 105873 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC --- 1.0 kW 136195 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC --- 1.0 kW 136195 NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 158668 NEW AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 158668 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND1 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 5-- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND2 Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 4-- 1.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - TORONTO ON --- 10.0 kW 164929 CHHA AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - TORONTO ON CA 7-- 1.0 kW 164929 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Daytime C C - MONTREAL QC --- 1.0 kW 136195 CJWI AM 1610 kHz ND Nighttime C C - MONTREAL QC CA 9-- 1.0 kW 136195 Forgot to add... for those in the eastern half of the US, these should be fairly easy DX catches, since TIS stations are only allowed, IIRC, 50 watts, and don't have squat for antennas.. I'm in Southern California. No Canadian station on 1610 is going to make it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
"Dave" wrote in message
... I'm in Southern California. No Canadian station on 1610 is going to make it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning. You are probably hearing a "neighborhood" station, or someone "house broadcasting" nearby. 1610 is a popular frequency because there are no commercial stations in the U.S. that use it. I "house broadcast" with a couple of AM transmitters here. One is on 630, the other is on 800. I prefer the low end of the band because I get a better signal, I have old 1930s and 1940s radios that don't tune above 1500, and there are no clear frequencies up that high around here. I also have an FM transmitter going on 107.9. This can be heard for several blocks in any direction. The 800 AM can be heard a couple of houses away, the 630 can barely be heard outside my own house. None are using sophisticated antennas, just wires strung on up on the wall. With real, outside antennas I could be covering a half mile easily. Get in your car and drive around your neighborhood, you will probably find the location of your station. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
"Dave" wrote in message ... I'm in Southern California. No Canadian station on 1610 is going to make it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning. You're probably right.. but not necessarily. During winter (especially) AMBCB stations can be heard at very great distances, even in the daytime. Two examples of such: 580 KFXD Boise/Nampa, ID heard all day, all winter at Astoria, OR, for most of the winter. 620 KGW Portland, OR heard for several hours during a snowstorm in Lewiston, ID 610 KONA Pasco/Kennewick/Richland, WA heard most any time in the west hills of Portland, OR (with 5000W KGW on adjacent 620!) Doesn't prove anything either way, just fun facts. I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. :) |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
Two examples of such: 580 KFXD Boise/Nampa, ID heard all day, all winter at Astoria, OR, for most of the winter. 620 KGW Portland, OR heard for several hours during a snowstorm in Lewiston, ID 610 KONA Pasco/Kennewick/Richland, WA heard most any time in the west hills of Portland, OR (with 5000W KGW on adjacent 620!) The third example was added as an afterthought.. since the station is only about 200 miles or so distant.. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
Brenda Ann wrote:
snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. :) One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? Michael |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
"msg" wrote in message ... Brenda Ann wrote: snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. :) One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? Skip will be a lot more of a challenge, especially since the number of VHF channels will decrease, but it will still be possible. As long as the systems are compatible (US/Canada/Mexico), the television won't care a whit. Capture effect may work even better than it does for analog. As with analog, though, open local channels would be easiest. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
msg wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote: snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. :) One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? Michael The receivers aren't that smart. TV will still skip. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
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msg wrote: Brenda Ann wrote: snip I had never seen TV skip until I was 19.. when I was watching local channel 2 (KATU) in Portland and over the span of a couple minutes I ended up watching the news on CKCK channel 2 in Regina, SK, Canada. RF is black magic.. :) One thing that I will most most after the DTV transition is VHF TV skip; I still have (nighttime) dreams about TV skip. I imagine that the signal management controls in DTV rcvrs will simply disable display when confronted with skip. Any thoughts? There's been some discussion in the DTV groups (alt.tv.tech.hdtv, alt.video.digital-tv). There's a threshold effect in the reception, so if the skip is stronger than the normal transmission by that amount, I'd expect that will be what you get. If the tuner were too picky, people who get marginal reception wouldn't get anything at all. Turns out that you can park your set or converter box on a channel, a lot of the units will pick up the PSIP(?) channel data and save it in the channel table, so you get an automatic ID. About a third of the local (Seattle) stations are hopeless for me to get reliable reception. But if I know their RF channel, I can set my converter box until a plane or ship goes by and pull the channel ID out of the ghosts and check later to see what subchannels they have running. (Hmmm, PAX and the Sportsman's Channel, well, no loss). Lightning and other impulse noise are bad news for ATSC, so most of the stations didn't stay on low VHF, where it's the worst. Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
On Nov 30, 11:43*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... wrote: Searching the web Maybe KINO???? which does transmit on 1610 according to a web search & their own webpage If I remember right, 1610 was used to transmit local information at one time & didn't allow public broadcast.... Did you hear this at night or during the day??? It was this morning. *1610 is Travelers' Information Services. *There are no regular stations authorized on that channel. *I asked Roy if he could pick it up as he is near Oakhurst, but the guy is so drugged-up that never came to pass. CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 5-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 4-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * 10.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 7-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * 9-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 My best TIS DX. I'm parked by the ET Highway with a Wellbrook loop. I find a TIS and wonder where in this hell hole would they have a TIS. Then it turns out to be coming from LAX. http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/lax_530_etgravel.wav |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
On Dec 1, 10:32*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... I'm in Southern California. *No Canadian station on 1610 is going to make it into L. A. at 9:30 in the morning. It's still possible. In the early 60's when 4 VEH from Haiti was on 1035, a number of NE Ohio DXers, myself included, heard it well enough to ID the Kreyol broadcasts around noon local time in deep winter. 1035 is near the middle of the AM band: 1610 is approaching shortwave. DX....DX... Oh that is what we did before night time IBOC. |
Pirate on 1610 kHz?
On Dec 3, 5:35*am, Dave wrote:
wrote: On Nov 30, 11:43 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "Dave" wrote in message om... wrote: Searching the web Maybe KINO???? which does transmit on 1610 according to a web search & their own webpage If I remember right, 1610 was used to transmit local information at one time & didn't allow public broadcast.... Did you hear this at night or during the day??? It was this morning. *1610 is Travelers' Information Services. *There are no regular stations authorized on that channel. *I asked Roy if he could pick it up as he is near Oakhurst, but the guy is so drugged-up that never came to pass. CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CFOS * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *COLLINGWOOD ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 105873 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 NEW * * * *AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 158668 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND1 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 5-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND2 *Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 4-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * --- * * * * * * * 10.0 * kW * 164929 CHHA * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *TORONTO ON CA * * * 7-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 164929 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Daytime * * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * --- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 CJWI * * * AM 1610 kHz ND * Nighttime * * * C C - * *MONTREAL QC CA * * * 9-- * * * * * * * *1.0 * kW * 136195 My best TIS DX. I'm parked by the ET Highway with a Wellbrook loop. I find a TIS and wonder where in this hell hole would they have a TIS. Then it turns out to be coming from LAX. http://www.lazygranch.com/sound/lax_530_etgravel.wav LAX is 100 Watts. *10 times most TIS stations' power. *I know I was not hearing Ontario or Quebeq. I checked at you are correct. However, when I first DXed the signal, I'm pretty sure it was only 25 watts. |
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