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pocket-radio December 4th 08 12:32 AM

Broadcasters pulled a rabbit out of thier hat, called HD Pt.1
 
While some opine on iBiquity’s technology, both positive and negative,
there is a much bigger story to HD radio, starting with Satellite
radio.

Broadcasters didn’t launch Iboc because they knew digital technology
was the future of radio, it started with satellite broadcasters doing
what some said couldn’t be done. Sat radio, convinced listeners to pay
a monthly fee for radio. For the first time in history, terrestrial
radio’s users, broadcasters listeners, were coughing up $12.99 a month
to hear the naughty ramblings of Howard Stern, opinions of Larry King
or adult contemporary music, that’s always been a free over the air
service. Think of this, roughly 18 million terrestrial radio users,
broadcasters listeners, are also paying monthly services fees to XM &
Sirius to hear music and talk formats. I’ve said broadcasters
listeners, more than once, to illustrate the deep-seated feelings of
contempt, that must be felt towards sat radio, by the arrogant kings
of the air, but that’s another story.

Broadcasters will never admit this, but between you and me they had to
be impressed
and envious of satellite radio’s pay to play revenue model. Industry
titans must have been chomping at the bit, over the prospect of
developing their own subscription radio model.

Enter Bob Struble, with a little known company IBiquity, propped up by
broadcasters and investors. Thus quicker than the eye can see,
broadcasters pulled a magical rabbit out of their hat, called digital
licensing rights and shazam, they’ve invented pay to play radio, sold
as free digital radio. IBiquity charges broadcasters, annually
thousands, for Iboc digital licensing rights, plus manufactures pay a
one time licensing free, that passed onto consumers, for each
receiver. Think of it, 235 million people weekly listen to terrestrial
radio, and Americans own 7-8 radios per household. The potential
numbers and profits from digital licensing and traditional advertising
revenues are positively huge!

Unfortunately, gadget-loving, credit card rich Americans have been
slow to upgrade their traditional analog receivers. Less informed
radio users, average people, have misconceptions, believing HD and sat
radio are one in the same. My marketing hat tells me, people remember
whose fist in a category and don’t care who’s second, and HD is
second.

Bridge Ratings estimates that Internet radio will have 180 million
listeners by 2020, 250 million will still be listening to terrestrial
radio, but HD will have less than 10 million.
As of 2004, IBiquity has only sold roughly 500,000 radios.

Moving forward, sooner than later, free wireless Internet access,
(wimax) will become a reality, and every dashboard will be Internet
enabled. Ipods or Slacker’s G2 may very well become, the pocket radio
of choice for users 12-34 & 25-54.

With a world wide recession, IBiquity will continue to struggle, sales
of receivers will level off at much lower rates than expected, plus
broadcasters now struggling to keep their main channel afloat, will be
slow to adopt Iboc startups, or offer earth shattering programming
content, beyond jukeboxes and simulcasted stations.

Sources:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/bu..._r=2&ref=media
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/sl...ur-pocket.html
http://www.bridgeratings.com/press_0...vsInternet.htm
http://www.hear2.com/2008/12/is-free...ly-a-year-away.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 4th 08 12:48 AM

Broadcasters pulled a rabbit out of thier hat, called HD Pt.1
 

"Pocket-Radio" wrote in message
...
Enter Bob Struble, with a little known company IBiquity, propped up by
broadcasters and investors.

iBiquity is the radio related laboratory of Lucent, which in turn is Bell
Labs. Hardly little known.

Bridge Ratings estimates that Internet radio ....

Bridge Ratings closed two years ago; ibiquity did not.

Moving forward, sooner than later, free wireless Internet access,
(wimax) will become a reality, and every dashboard will be Internet
enabled.

The cost of WiMaxing the US is estimated at around $120 billion, which means
when it is all done, it will be $200 billion. Who is going to spend that
kind of money and then give it away?


RHF December 4th 08 02:48 AM

Broadcasters pulled a rabbit out of thier hat, called HD Pt.1
 
On Dec 3, 4:48*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Pocket-Radio" wrote in message

...
Enter Bob Struble, with a little known company IBiquity, propped up by
broadcasters and investors.

iBiquity is the radio related laboratory of Lucent, which in turn is Bell
Labs. Hardly little known.

Bridge Ratings estimates that Internet radio ....

Bridge Ratings closed two years ago; ibiquity did not.

Moving forward, sooner than later, free wireless Internet access,
(wimax) will become a reality, and every dashboard will be Internet
enabled.


- The cost of WiMaxing the US is estimated at
- around $120 billion, which means when it is all
- done, it will be $200 billion.

More likely it would take a Decade or more and
the real Price would be $360B to $480B.

- Who is going to spend that kind of money
- and then give it away?

-hint- 700 Billion Wall Street Bail-Out
[ Uncle Obama Gota Check For 'U' ]

RHF December 4th 08 03:08 AM

The Future of Traditional AM & FM Radio Stations is on an ExpandedLocal Cable TV Distribution System that Includes All Local Radio Stations
 
Pocket-Radio,

As usually you are 'thinking' inside a Locked-Box of ANTI
{Negative} Free Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio Thinking.

The Future of Traditional AM & FM Radio Stations:

All Terrestrial Radio Broadcasters {Traditional AM & FM
Radio Stations} have to do is to Work-out-a-Deal with
the Cable TV Industry and the FCC [US Congress] to
put Local Terrestrial Radio Broadcasters back-on Local
Cable Networks for Free {The Radio Advertisers will Pay
to Get their ADZ into all the Local Homes in their Area.}
-or- Have the Local Cable TV Distributor Charge a very
'low' $1~$3 per Month Fee.

FREE Local Cable Radio via Cable is much better
than $13 per Month for Satellite Radio.

A LOW $1~$3 Fee for Local Cable Radio is better
than $13 per Month for Satellite Radio.

The Radio Listener 'gets' All the Local AM & FM Radio
Stations {More Content for the Cable Companies} and
the Radio Stations get their ADz on every Set-Top-Box
in the Local Area.

OBTW : Both AM & FM Radio Signal are 100% Digital
-via- the Local Cable TV & Radio System; plus there is
"NO" 10mv/m Contour to overcome {Poor Signal Area}
for the Local Radio Listener for the Local Radio Stations.

speaking positively about free -over-the-air radio ~ RHF

[email protected] December 6th 08 04:31 AM

Broadcasters pulled a rabbit out of thier hat, called HD Pt.1
 
On Dec 4, 7:38*am, Dave wrote:
BoobleStubble wrote:

And, the FCC just authorized the use of the analog TV white-spaces for
wireless internet devices. It is going to happen, whether you like it
or not.


There is no such thing as analog TV white spaces.

The FCC plan for using the guard bands between digital TV stations won't
work. *Their own OET engineering studies proved this. *The vote on 4
November was nothing more than a dog-and-pony show.

Specifically, the ruling requires a TV Band Device consult a database on
the internet before transmitting. *How will the device get on the
internet if it cannot transmit?

The rules require 1st adjacent TVBDs to reduce power, even though 2nd
adjacent channels do more harm. *This proves science was not a factor
and that this ruling was pure politics.


Guard bands? The FCC recognized guard bands? If so, how did IBOC ever
get approved?

Dave[_18_] December 6th 08 03:10 PM

Broadcasters pulled a rabbit out of thier hat, called HD Pt.1
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Dec 3, 7:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
The cost of WiMaxing the US is estimated at around $120 billion,
which means
when it is all done, it will be $200 billion. Who is going to spend
that
kind of money and then give it away?

Why, the Government of course. That is the original posters anti-
capitalistic propaganda message, afterall.


The government does great works (when not fighting idiotic wars).
Eisenhower built the Interstates, then warned us about the military
industrial complex. I am proud of him. I was named after him.

I think that WiMax deployment should be handled state by state, so the
People can vote on it directly.


It can't be done that way as long as the FCC has total authority over
the RF specturm. And, if left to the states, we would have different
standards in many...


I'm talking paying for it, D'wardo. The FCC's job is to find spectrum,
nothing more.

David Eduardo[_4_] December 6th 08 08:36 PM

Broadcasters pulled a rabbit out of thier hat, called HD Pt.1
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:


It can't be done that way as long as the FCC has total authority over the
RF specturm. And, if left to the states, we would have different
standards in many...


I'm talking paying for it, D'wardo. The FCC's job is to find spectrum,
nothing more.


Most of the WiMax spectrum is already auctioned and being set up... some
markets already have it. The Sprint / Clearwire partnership for Xohm (their
brand of WiMax) fell apart over the money part, but Clearwire (google 'em)
already is running in limited areas.



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