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Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"
NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:
On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right Eduardo. |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
wrote in message ... On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? It has nothing to do with HD radio. However, as I said, any expense item that can be cut right now will be, just as it is at General Electric or Johnson & Johnson... and that means HD, streaming, websites, overnight jocks, vans, promotion, travel and anything else "shrinkable." |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? It has nothing to do with HD radio. However, as I said, any expense item that can be cut right now will be, just as it is at General Electric or Johnson & Johnson... and that means HD, streaming, websites, overnight jocks, vans, promotion, travel and anything else "shrinkable." Your job... |
(OT) : More Anti-Radio "Sock-Puppet" - blah, Blah. BLAH !
On Dec 23, 9:51*pm, wrote:
On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? *TV station revenue is down. *Auto companies revenue is down. *The whole economy is down. *With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. *No surprise here. *When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. *That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. *So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. - The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop - puts pressure on an already stressed industry. -*Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. -*In that sense 20% IS significant. -*Isn't that right Eduardo. little 'rhb', So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession; and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio it boggles the mind ~ RHF |
(OT) : More Anti-Radio "Sock-Puppet" - blah, Blah. BLAH !
PocketRadio,
So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession; and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio it boggles the mind ~ RHF |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 23, 11:29�pm, wrote:
On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? �TV station revenue is down. �Auto companies revenue is down. �The whole economy is down. �With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. �No surprise here. �When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. �That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. �So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - LMFAO! |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 2:32�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? It has nothing to do with HD radio. However, as I said, any expense item that can be cut right now will be, just as it is at General Electric or Johnson & Johnson... and that means HD, streaming, websites, overnight jocks, vans, promotion, travel and anything else "shrinkable."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. |
(OT) : More Anti-Radio "Sock-Puppet" - blah, Blah. BLAH !
On Dec 24, 5:15�am, RHF wrote:
PocketRadio, So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession; and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio it boggles the mind ~ RHF �. On Dec 23, 6:33�pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yup, as long as it is bad news for HD Radio - destroy terrestrial radio, in order to destroy HD. |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
"PocketRadio" wrote in message ... Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not quantifiable today. |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:
On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right Eduardo. I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out. I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold shows the disgusting person you really are. GET A LIFE! |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 10:55�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message ... Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not quantifiable today. "FCC to Consider Raising FM-HD Power Levels" "Why would radio stations take the risk of degrading the quality of their existing analog service in order to pimp a flawed technology which nobody's listening to? It's almost as if the strategy of the HD Radio Alliance is to degrade analog radio service in order to force digital adoption - kind of a variant on the 'we had to destroy the village to save it' rationale." http://tinyurl.com/67bgv7 I'de say appove it, then watch FM turn into the same situation as AM- HD - but this time, there will be lawsuits: "Comments of Simmons Media Group, LLC" "Large-market and large-group stations with more resources will be the most likely to increase digital operating power, leaving small-market, rural, and family-owned analog broadcasters to lose revenues from interference while undertaking large attorney and engineering fees to fight digital interference at the FCC." http://tinyurl.com/6fmcx4 Hasn't Struble done a wonderful job pitting broadcasters against one another. IBOC will eventually destroy the radio industry. Struble must a a real hate of the industry. |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 11:58�am, wrote:
On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? �TV station revenue is down. �Auto companies revenue is down. �The whole economy is down. �With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. �No surprise here. �When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. �That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. �So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. �Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. �In that sense 20% IS significant. �Isn't that right Eduardo. I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out. I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. �I guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. �That's about as selfish as one can get. �And hoping that the radio industry will fold shows the disgusting person you really are. GET A LIFE!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - LMFAO! |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 11:58 am, wrote:
On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right Eduardo. I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out. I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold shows the disgusting person you really are. GET A LIFE! Hey GET A LIFE - You need to GET REAL. HD radio and other big business have suffered from GREED for years. It's now catching up with them. I personally love it. |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 3:10 pm, wrote:
On Dec 24, 11:58 am, wrote: On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right Eduardo. I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out. I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold shows the disgusting person you really are. GET A LIFE! Big Business, banks, investors, big media, bloated government agencies, newspapers, auto manufacturers, retailers and probably YOU (and ****heads like Eduardo) have been living in financial never-never land for years and it’s all coming to a head. Now. And they still justify their self-serving actions while the Titanic sinks to the bottom. Look at yourself and tell me it's not true. I can’t wait to see it continue in 2009 I just love it! Merry Christmas! |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "PocketRadio" wrote in message ... Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not quantifiable today. So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator?? |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 2:34*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "PocketRadio" wrote in message .... Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not quantifiable today. - So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator?? Yeah - IBOC is "By-Design" a Noise Generator for Analog Radio Users. IBOC Planned http://electronicdesign.com/Files/29.../Figure_02.gif http://www.jampro.com/uploads/images...LHD/ALLHD1.jpg IBOC Actual http://www.ham-radio.com/k6sti/iboc0.jpg http://www.contelec.com/images%5CSpectral-plot.jpg ~ RHF |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 8:58*am, wrote:
On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? *TV station revenue is down. *Auto companies revenue is down. *The whole economy is down. *With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. *No surprise here. *When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. *That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. *So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. *Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. *In that sense 20% IS significant. *Isn't that right Eduardo. I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out. I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. *I guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. *That's about as selfish as one can get. * - And hoping that the radio industry will fold - shows the disgusting person you really are. Right-On ! - GET A LIFE! |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 5:54*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message .. . "PocketRadio" wrote in message .... Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not quantifiable today. So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator?? No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "HD Interference: Not Just For AM Anymore" "Radio World Engineering Extra dropped a bomb this month with a very provocative cover story: 'What Are We Doing to Ourselves, Exactly?' Written by Doug Vernier, the man who authored the technical specifications for an ongoing Corporation for Public Broadcasting- sponsored HD Radio interference analysis, the report is the first of its kind to document interference between FM-HD stations around the country. Using anecdotal reportage, some sophisticated contour- mapping, and presumably 'early data' from the CPB study, Vernier's article conclusively proves how stations running in hybrid HD/analog mode can (and do) interfere somewhat significantly with not only themselves, but their neighbors on the FM dial." http://diymedia.net/archive/1207.htm#122307 "Editorial: More Than Half Full" "AM-HD continues to fight uphill. Several manufacturers showed impressive new transmitter models designed to optimize and maintain HD performance. Yet the growth of AM-HD stations coming on the air appears stalled and we hear murmurings about some broadcasters pulling back on AM-HD or wishing to renegotiate their commitments with Ibiquity." http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.13363.html "Citadel Halts AM Nighttime IBOC Operation Amid Complaints" "An excerpt from his memo to staff reads: In response to the lackluster performance, the limited benefit and various reports of significant interference, Citadel is suspending nighttime AM HD operations at this time. Please reinstate your previous procedures for daytime-only HD operation as soon as possible.” http://www.radioworld.com/pages/s.0121/t.8847.html Cum again ? LOL! |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 5:54�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message .. . "PocketRadio" wrote in message .... Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not quantifiable today. So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator?? No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Edaurdo - you are so full of **** that you make me vomit! |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
On Dec 24, 5:58�pm, RHF wrote:
On Dec 24, 8:58�am, wrote: On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? �TV station revenue is down. �Auto companies revenue is down. �The whole economy is down. �With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. �No surprise here. �When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. �That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. �So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. �Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. �In that sense 20% IS significant. �Isn't that right Eduardo. I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out. I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. �I guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. �That's about as selfish as one can get. � - And hoping that the radio industry will fold - shows the disgusting person you really are. Right-On ! - GET A LIFE!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Right-On ! You sure showed me! LOL! |
(OT) : PONG - PocketRadio You Put The "F" in LM_AO !
On Dec 24, 9:08*am, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 24, 11:58 am, wrote: On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote: On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio? So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as an argument against radio or HD radio. The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right Eduardo. I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out. I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold shows the disgusting person you really are. GET A LIFE!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - LMFAO! pOCKETrADIO - We {The USA} are legally in a Recession -and- May soon be going in to a Depression in the next year -and- You are slamming the Commercial Radio Advertising Business for bad economic numbers . . . http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...1af1a72b004e2a Real People *Your Fellow US Citizens* Are Losing Their Jobs, Homes, Business; and You Rejoice ! ! ! it boggles the mind ~ RHF |
Eduardo - Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November
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"David Eduardo" wrote: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "PocketRadio" wrote in message ... Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/ antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD. A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not quantifiable today. So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator?? No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues. It causes me listening issues right now and I'm not alone on this. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) : PocketRadio -proclaims- Destroy Terrestrial Radio, In Order ToDestroy HD
On Dec 24, 4:02*am, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:15 am, RHF wrote: PocketRadio, So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession; and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio it boggles the mind ~ RHF . On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote: "Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November" NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off by 20 percent compared to November 2007. Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in November, rising 1 percent. The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down 10 percent in October and 8 percent in September. The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co. http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - Yup, as long as it is bad news for HD Radio - destroy terrestrial radio, in order to destroy HD. PocketRadio -proclaims- Destroy Terrestrial Radio : In Order To Destroy HD Radio (OT) : PONG - PocketRadio You Put The "F" in LM_AO ! http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e9096d25c86eac |
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