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BDK[_5_] January 4th 09 03:46 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article telamon_spamshield-52E6E2.10452203012009
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
lid says...
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jan 3, 8:40?am, dxAce wrote:
Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:





On Jan 3, 5:49 am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...

While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall
hearing
that no
mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took
place.

In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and
Mrs. XYZ
would
like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st".

Pretty close to that:

Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4.

From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau
Statistics
(which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county
Health
Bureau that sent the information to the paper.

And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to
the
state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being
made of the
*location* of said birth.

Could be interesting to say the least if at some point in time it were
to be
discovered that Barry was not born in the USA.

Looking forward to the riots,

dxAce
Michigan
USA- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe you should pursue some education of yourself, Steve.

Nah, think I'll just lie about having a PhD like you did, boy!

Your grasp
of the issue isn't very sharp.

Better than yours, boy!



Why would America riot if Obama wasn't born in the US?

America, or certain ahem elements within the USA?

Are you saying
you'd be rioting?

No, learn some comprehension skills, oh faux one.

That might really pump up military recruitment!

Yep, it just might.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Well, the quality of your one-liners certainly hasn't improven. And
the real issue isn't whether he was born on US soil.

BrendaAnn is right - I think most of these challenges to Obama's
citizenship do assume an incredible amount of collaboration and
conspiracy to cover-up a foreign birth.


SNIP

That's a bunch of BS and shame on you for employing a lame debate tactic
of framing the opposing side's argument as nearly an impossible thing.

And Brenda is flat wrong on this as is yourself.

The conspiracy is nothing more than two people having a child overseas,
coming to the USA and having the birth recorded in Hawaii. It may be an
incredible collaboration to you but pretty simple thing to most people.




You're about as simple as they come, Telemundo. When will you figure out
this is a totally bogus story. He was born in Hawaii, sane folks have no
doubt, and even many of the other kooktards have given up on it.

Isn't it time to do something sort of sane for once in your life?
--
BDK

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BDK[_5_] January 4th 09 03:48 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article telamon_spamshield-374F2E.18535003012009
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com,
lid says...
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote:


It may be an incredible collaboration to you but pretty simple thing
to most people.


Possibly you are interpreting his statement the wrong way. I -don't-
think he means an "incredible collaboration" would have been required at
the time of birth.

Rather, he may be referring to the "incredible collaboration" that would
be required to keep it covered up *TODAY*.


That's the neat thing about "intentionally" introducing an error or
falsity into the database or history of an event as it does not need any
more support to propagate its existence. Conversely it takes effort to
find the error and correct it so you got it backward. Think about it.



BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Holy ****! Don't you get tired from all the tap
dancing you're doing to keep this nonsense going?

--
BDK

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Shillmaster

BDK[_5_] January 4th 09 03:49 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article 7a2e884e-0c59-4636-b1f1-7f57cc5ab2f9
@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 3, 2:49*am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing
that no
mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place.


In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ
would
like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st".


Pretty close to that:


Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4.


From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics
(which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health
Bureau that sent the information to the paper.


And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the
state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the
*location* of said birth.


- Could be interesting to say the least if at
- some point in time it were to be discovered
- that Barry was not born in the USA.
-
- Looking forward to the riots,
-
- dxAce
- Michigan
- USA

kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !

The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)

sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
.



Apparently your meds aren't.
--
BDK

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kOOk Magnet!
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Shillmaster

BDK[_5_] January 4th 09 03:54 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article telamon_spamshield-282124.11375303012009
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
lid says...
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jan 2, 8:24?pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

? ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness
... grin


The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was
his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply
wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth
announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a
pretty good sign he was born in the US.


What what you imagine or think is not reality.




How would you know about reality, Telemundo?
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

Telamon January 4th 09 03:56 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article ,
BDK wrote:

In article telamon_spamshield-374F2E.18535003012009
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com,
lid says...
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote:


It may be an incredible collaboration to you but pretty simple thing
to most people.

Possibly you are interpreting his statement the wrong way. I -don't-
think he means an "incredible collaboration" would have been required at
the time of birth.

Rather, he may be referring to the "incredible collaboration" that would
be required to keep it covered up *TODAY*.


That's the neat thing about "intentionally" introducing an error or
falsity into the database or history of an event as it does not need any
more support to propagate its existence. Conversely it takes effort to
find the error and correct it so you got it backward. Think about it.



BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Holy ****! Don't you get tired from all the tap
dancing you're doing to keep this nonsense going?


Try and pay attention.

You will notice I'm not the one keeping it going. I'm responding to
other posts on the topic, OK Kookaburra?

Thanks for the laugh.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 4th 09 04:02 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article ,
BDK wrote:

In article telamon_spamshield-52E6E2.10452203012009
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
lid says...
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jan 3, 8:40?am, dxAce wrote:
Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:





On Jan 3, 5:49 am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...

While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to
recall
hearing
that no
mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth
took
place.

In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr.
and
Mrs. XYZ
would
like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April
1st".

Pretty close to that:

Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug.
4.

From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau
Statistics
(which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the
state/county
Health
Bureau that sent the information to the paper.

And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going
to
the
state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being
made of the
*location* of said birth.

Could be interesting to say the least if at some point in time it
were
to be
discovered that Barry was not born in the USA.

Looking forward to the riots,

dxAce
Michigan
USA- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe you should pursue some education of yourself, Steve.

Nah, think I'll just lie about having a PhD like you did, boy!

Your grasp
of the issue isn't very sharp.

Better than yours, boy!



Why would America riot if Obama wasn't born in the US?

America, or certain ahem elements within the USA?

Are you saying
you'd be rioting?

No, learn some comprehension skills, oh faux one.

That might really pump up military recruitment!

Yep, it just might.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, the quality of your one-liners certainly hasn't improven. And
the real issue isn't whether he was born on US soil.

BrendaAnn is right - I think most of these challenges to Obama's
citizenship do assume an incredible amount of collaboration and
conspiracy to cover-up a foreign birth.


SNIP

That's a bunch of BS and shame on you for employing a lame debate tactic
of framing the opposing side's argument as nearly an impossible thing.

And Brenda is flat wrong on this as is yourself.

The conspiracy is nothing more than two people having a child overseas,
coming to the USA and having the birth recorded in Hawaii. It may be an
incredible collaboration to you but pretty simple thing to most people.



You're about as simple as they come, Telemundo.


The truth is not complicated but as time goes on keeping lies going gets
harder to do.

When will you figure out this is a totally bogus story. He was born
in Hawaii, sane folks have no doubt, and even many of the other
kooktards have given up on it.


I'm not saying it is true or not. I don't think believing the story
makes one a KOOK. However, a person being so sure one way or the other
clearly is a KOOK.

Isn't it time to do something sort of sane for once in your life?


What would a Kookaburra suggest?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon January 4th 09 05:10 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article ,
BDK wrote:

In article telamon_spamshield-282124.11375303012009
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
lid says...
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jan 2, 8:24?pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

? ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness
... grin


The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was
his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply
wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth
announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a
pretty good sign he was born in the US.


What what you imagine or think is not reality.




How would you know about reality, Telemundo?


Based on your posting history I have you beat by a mile.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

BDK[_5_] January 4th 09 06:19 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article telamon_spamshield-7C0E9A.21105503012009
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com,
lid says...
In article ,
BDK wrote:

In article telamon_spamshield-282124.11375303012009
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
lid says...
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jan 2, 8:24?pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

? ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness
... grin


The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was
his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply
wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth
announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a
pretty good sign he was born in the US.

What what you imagine or think is not reality.




How would you know about reality, Telemundo?


Based on your posting history I have you beat by a mile.




LOL, another smoking irony meter..
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
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Telamon January 4th 09 07:49 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article ,
BDK wrote:

In article telamon_spamshield-7C0E9A.21105503012009
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com,
lid says...
In article ,
BDK wrote:

In article telamon_spamshield-282124.11375303012009
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net,
lid says...
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jan 2, 8:24?pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

? ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an
American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to
make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into
question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her,
I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his
citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only
eyewitness
... grin


The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was
his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply
wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth
announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is
a
pretty good sign he was born in the US.

What what you imagine or think is not reality.




How would you know about reality, Telemundo?


Based on your posting history I have you beat by a mile.




LOL, another smoking irony meter..


Is that what you have been smoking? Explains your posts.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF January 4th 09 06:03 PM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
On Jan 3, 7:49*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 7a2e884e-0c59-4636-b1f1-7f57cc5ab2f9
@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com, says...



On Jan 3, 2:49*am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing
that no
mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place.


In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ
would
like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st".


Pretty close to that:


Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4.


From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics
(which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health
Bureau that sent the information to the paper.


And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the
state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the
*location* of said birth.


- Could be interesting to say the least if at
- some point in time it were to be discovered
- that Barry was not born in the USA.
-
- Looking forward to the riots,
-
- dxAce
- Michigan
- USA


kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !


The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)


sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
*.


- Apparently your meds aren't.
- --
- BDK
-
- BDK Klan leader?
- kOOk Magnet!
- NJJ CLUB #1
- Shillmaster

kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !
[ No Meds Required ]

The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)

sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF

RHF January 4th 09 06:08 PM

(OT) : What's Your Opinion : Will There Be Riots and Martial Law -IF-Obama Is Removed From The US Presidency ???
 
On Jan 3, 7:38*pm, BDK wrote:
In article e01125a8-f555-4b0b-b464-
,
says...

Elect


- Where do you people come up with this insanity?
- --
- BDK
-
- BDK Klan leader?
- kOOk Magnet!
- NJJ CLUB #1
- Shillmaster

John Smith January 5th 09 10:09 PM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 
wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=250796
cuhulin


It would seem as if the group, "Stupid people for republicans and John
McCain" are still alive and well.

Obama takes us back towards sanity--he must be stopped! Where are our
republi-crat heroes?;
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...nounces_1.html

Republicans don't want you to participate in your own government. They
want to take care of you (at a cost, of course.) They will need your
money to do that--so relax, go home, go to bed, don't worry about it, be
prepared for the "republican plan" when they take back control, and, of
course, send them more of your money! They'll need that; they are like
that, yanno?

Damn democrats anyway! Who are they to ask us to participate in our own
government! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

MnMikew January 5th 09 10:17 PM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
Damn democrats anyway! Who are they to ask us to participate in our own
government! ROFLOL


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure
that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation.
Pelosi's proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that
any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be
rendered impossible before he even takes office.

Pelosi's rule changes -- which may be voted on today -- will reverse the
fairness rules that were written around Newt Gingrich's "Contract with
America."

In reaction, the House Republican leadership is sending a letter today to
Pelosi to object to changes to House Rules this week that would bar
Republicans from offering alternative bills, amendments to Democrat bills or
even the guarantee of open debate accessible by motions to recommit for any
piece of legislation during the entire 111th Congress. These procedural
abuses, as outlined in the below letter obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, would also
include the repeal of six-year limit for committee chairmen and other House
Rules reform measures enacted in 1995 as part of the Contract with America.

After decades of Democrat control of the House of Representatives, gross
abuses to the legislative process and several high-profile scandals
contributed to an overwhelming Republican House Congressional landslide
victory in 1994. Reforms to the House Rules as part of the Contract with
America were designed to open up to public scrutiny what had become under
this decades-long Democrat majority a dangerously secretive House
legislative process. The Republican reform of the way the House did business
included opening committee meetings to the public and media, making Congress
actually subject to federal law, term limits for committee chairmen ending
decades-long committee fiefdoms, truth in budgeting, elimination of the
committee proxy vote, authorization of a House audit, specific requirements
for blanket rules waivers, and guarantees to the then-Democrat minority
party to offer amendments to pieces of legislation.

Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation in
secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of debate and
amendment procedures as part of America's governing legislative process.




[email protected] January 6th 09 12:36 AM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 
Rick Biesada, on Jan 7.WJJG Radio.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=251255
cuhulin


BDK[_5_] January 6th 09 03:47 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article 6e7a9a21-2e08-45d0-b1ba-
,
says...
On Jan 4, 8:34*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 2604bf96-ed0c-4ad4-8fe3-c9d7ebf63ad6
@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com, says...



On Jan 3, 7:49*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 7a2e884e-0c59-4636-b1f1-7f57cc5ab2f9
@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com, says...


On Jan 3, 2:49*am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing
that no
mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place.


In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr.. and Mrs. XYZ
would
like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st".


Pretty close to that:


Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4.


From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics
(which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health
Bureau that sent the information to the paper.


And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the
state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the
*location* of said birth.


- Could be interesting to say the least if at
- some point in time it were to be discovered
- that Barry was not born in the USA.
-
- Looking forward to the riots,
-
- dxAce
- Michigan
- USA


kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !


The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)


sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
*.


- Apparently your meds aren't.
- --
- BDK
-
- BDK Klan leader?
- kOOk Magnet!
- NJJ CLUB #1
- Shillmaster


kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !
[ No Meds Required ]


The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)


sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
*.


What are you going to do when it doesn't happen?

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster


BDK - Either way whether it happens or not :
I Do Nothing -cause- I may be crazy
-but- I AM NOT THAT CRAZY ~ RHF
.


I'll wait and see. I would make a small bet that you start tap dancing
almost as soon as the swearing in is complete. I hope your tap dancin'
shoes are in good shape.

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

John Smith January 6th 09 05:23 AM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 
MNMikeW wrote:

...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure
that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation.
Pelosi's proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that
any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be
rendered impossible before he even takes office.
...


Well, I might be more worried, but a republican president got us here,
and I didn't see any republican public servants of mine raising an alarm
.... so, if Obama gives 'em the finger and goes directly to the people,
it would be worth a try ...

Pelosi's rule changes -- which may be voted on today -- will reverse the
fairness rules that were written around Newt Gingrich's "Contract with
America."


Personally, I hope Newt-the-newt burns in hell. He is still attempting
to have no change and take us though more of the hell we have gone
through in the last eight years! How he is going to sell the public
that "things have been done right" will be interesting to see ...
frankly, I am ready to call the man a liar, crook and jerk!

In reaction, the House Republican leadership is sending a letter today to
Pelosi to object to changes to House Rules this week that would bar
Republicans from offering alternative bills, amendments to Democrat bills or
even the guarantee of open debate accessible by motions to recommit for any
piece of legislation during the entire 111th Congress. These procedural
abuses, as outlined in the below letter obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, would also
include the repeal of six-year limit for committee chairmen and other House
Rules reform measures enacted in 1995 as part of the Contract with America.


I am not aware of this; I will have to do some research. But, me
thinks the republicans have been so quick to cry wolf that not much
attention is paid them, anymore ... as far as the bills goes--there
needs to be one simple law, the bills are either wholly accepted or
wholly rejected ... if just one thing ain't right, go back and rewrite it!

These "geniuses" keep telling us they are the best ... krist, I'd
suspect my garbage man could have done a lot of damage, however, if you
rounded up all the alcoholics, drug addicts, criminals, nuts, etc., I
think they could have done a comparable job of creating a mess like this!

I am damn ****ed when my politicians are printing IOU's (in the form of
dollar bills) which my grandchildren and great grandchildren will be
left to pay off!

After decades of Democrat control of the House of Representatives, gross
abuses to the legislative process and several high-profile scandals
contributed to an overwhelming Republican House Congressional landslide
victory in 1994. Reforms to the House Rules as part of the Contract with
America were designed to open up to public scrutiny what had become under
this decades-long Democrat majority a dangerously secretive House
legislative process. The Republican reform of the way the House did business
included opening committee meetings to the public and media, making Congress
actually subject to federal law, term limits for committee chairmen ending
decades-long committee fiefdoms, truth in budgeting, elimination of the
committee proxy vote, authorization of a House audit, specific requirements
for blanket rules waivers, and guarantees to the then-Democrat minority
party to offer amendments to pieces of legislation.


I can't even tell the difference between republican criminals and
democratic crooks anymore! When you get down to trying to figure out
who did the most damage here, democrats or republicans, it is a flip of
the coin!

You would be hard pressed to convince me that ANYTHING done over the
last 30+ years has improved my life, my families lives, my friends
lives, my neighbors lives, etc. Indeed, most of my friends who are
around my age are wondering how they are going to replace their
retirement funds ... they feel as if they have been robbed ... I will
feel better when these republicans and democrats start imprisoning and
hanging the criminals--bipartisan-ly!

Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation in
secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of debate and
amendment procedures as part of America's governing legislative process.


Well, I would certainly hate to see any more secrecy, control by big
brother, more cameras by big brother, more thought control laws, more
fear, more unsafe streets, more poverty, more lack of health care, more
poor performance of our schools, more deterioration of public
roads-water-sewer-power-infrastructure, etc. ... everything Obama is
saying and doing, at this time, certainly is not along your fears ...
however, it is always good to keep watch.

After a year, a person should be able to make some sort of rational
appraisment(s) of his performance--say around the middle of January 2010 ...

Regards,
JS


RHF January 6th 09 06:11 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
On Jan 5, 7:47*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 6e7a9a21-2e08-45d0-b1ba-
,
says...



On Jan 4, 8:34*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 2604bf96-ed0c-4ad4-8fe3-c9d7ebf63ad6
@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com, says...


On Jan 3, 7:49*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 7a2e884e-0c59-4636-b1f1-7f57cc5ab2f9
@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com, says...


On Jan 3, 2:49*am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing
that no
mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place.


In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ
would
like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st".


Pretty close to that:


Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4.


From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics
(which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health
Bureau that sent the information to the paper.


And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the
state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the
*location* of said birth.


- Could be interesting to say the least if at
- some point in time it were to be discovered
- that Barry was not born in the USA.
-
- Looking forward to the riots,
-
- dxAce
- Michigan
- USA


kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !


The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)


sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
*.


- Apparently your meds aren't.
- --
- BDK
-
- BDK Klan leader?
- kOOk Magnet!
- NJJ CLUB #1
- Shillmaster


kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !
[ No Meds Required ]


The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)


sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
*.


What are you going to do when it doesn't happen?


--
BDK


BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster


BDK - Either way whether it happens or not :
I Do Nothing -cause- I may be crazy
-but- I AM NOT THAT CRAZY ~ RHF
*.


I'll wait and see. I would make a small bet that you start tap dancing
almost as soon as the swearing in is complete. I hope your tap dancin'
shoes are in good shape.

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster


BDK,

I case you missed it in the prior message.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BDK - Either way whether it happens or not :
I Do Nothing -cause- I may be crazy
-but- I AM NOT THAT CRAZY ~ RHF
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
my 'tap' dance is over - already ~ RHF

BDK[_5_] January 6th 09 06:47 AM

(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
 
In article f0645964-862d-4519-843c-d8fa4743b391
@z27g2000prd.googlegroups.com, says...
On Jan 5, 7:47*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 6e7a9a21-2e08-45d0-b1ba-
,
says...



On Jan 4, 8:34*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 2604bf96-ed0c-4ad4-8fe3-c9d7ebf63ad6
@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com, says...


On Jan 3, 7:49*pm, BDK wrote:
In article 7a2e884e-0c59-4636-b1f1-7f57cc5ab2f9
@p2g2000prn.googlegroups.com, says....


On Jan 3, 2:49*am, dxAce wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...


While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing
that no
mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place.


In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ
would
like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st".


Pretty close to that:


Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4.


From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics
(which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health
Bureau that sent the information to the paper.


And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the
state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the
*location* of said birth.


- Could be interesting to say the least if at
- some point in time it were to be discovered
- that Barry was not born in the USA.
-
- Looking forward to the riots,
-
- dxAce
- Michigan
- USA


kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !


The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)


sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
*.


- Apparently your meds aren't.
- --
- BDK
-
- BDK Klan leader?
- kOOk Magnet!
- NJJ CLUB #1
- Shillmaster


kooks, Kooks. KOOKS-A-RU !
[ No Meds Required ]


The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP :o)


sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
*.


What are you going to do when it doesn't happen?


--
BDK


BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster


BDK - Either way whether it happens or not :
I Do Nothing -cause- I may be crazy
-but- I AM NOT THAT CRAZY ~ RHF
*.


I'll wait and see. I would make a small bet that you start tap dancing
almost as soon as the swearing in is complete. I hope your tap dancin'
shoes are in good shape.

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster


BDK,

I case you missed it in the prior message.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
BDK - Either way whether it happens or not :
I Do Nothing -cause- I may be crazy
-but- I AM NOT THAT CRAZY ~ RHF
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
my 'tap' dance is over - already ~ RHF
.



I'll have to see it to believe it. Take that as you will..

--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

RHF January 6th 09 06:58 AM

(OT) : In One Year Will We Be - Heaping-On the Praise -or- Piling-Onthe Blame ?
 
On Jan 5, 9:23*pm, John Smith wrote:
MNMikeW wrote:
...
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure
that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation.
Pelosi's proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that
any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be
rendered impossible before he even takes office.
...


Well, I might be more worried, but a republican president got us here,
and I didn't see any republican public servants of mine raising an alarm
... so, if Obama gives 'em the finger and goes directly to the people,
it would be worth a try ...

Pelosi's rule changes -- which may be voted on today -- will reverse the
fairness rules that were written around Newt Gingrich's "Contract with
America."


Personally, I hope Newt-the-newt burns in hell. *He is still attempting
to have no change and take us though more of the hell we have gone
through in the last eight years! *How he is going to sell the public
that "things have been done right" will be interesting to see ...
frankly, I am ready to call the man a liar, crook and jerk!

In reaction, the House Republican leadership is sending a letter today to
Pelosi to object to changes to House Rules this week that would bar
Republicans from offering alternative bills, amendments to Democrat bills or
even the guarantee of open debate accessible by motions to recommit for any
piece of legislation during the entire 111th Congress. These procedural
abuses, as outlined in the below letter obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, would also
include the repeal of six-year limit for committee chairmen and other House
Rules reform measures enacted in 1995 as part of the Contract with America.


I am not aware of this; *I will have to do some research. *But, me
thinks the republicans have been so quick to cry wolf that not much
attention is paid them, anymore ... as far as the bills goes--there
needs to be one simple law, the bills are either wholly accepted or
wholly rejected ... if just one thing ain't right, go back and rewrite it!

These "geniuses" keep telling us they are the best ... krist, I'd
suspect my garbage man could have done a lot of damage, however, if you
rounded up all the alcoholics, drug addicts, criminals, nuts, etc., I
think they could have done a comparable job of creating a mess like this!

I am damn ****ed when my politicians are printing IOU's (in the form of
dollar bills) which my grandchildren and great grandchildren will be
left to pay off!

After decades of Democrat control of the House of Representatives, gross
abuses to the legislative process and several high-profile scandals
contributed to an overwhelming Republican House Congressional landslide
victory in 1994. Reforms to the House Rules as part of the Contract with
America were designed to open up to public scrutiny what had become under
this decades-long Democrat majority a dangerously secretive House
legislative process. The Republican reform of the way the House did business
included opening committee meetings to the public and media, making Congress
actually subject to federal law, term limits for committee chairmen ending
decades-long committee fiefdoms, truth in budgeting, elimination of the
committee proxy vote, authorization of a House audit, specific requirements
for blanket rules waivers, and guarantees to the then-Democrat minority
party to offer amendments to pieces of legislation.


I can't even tell the difference between republican criminals and
democratic crooks anymore! *When you get down to trying to figure out
who did the most damage here, democrats or republicans, it is a flip of
the coin!

You would be hard pressed to convince me that ANYTHING done over the
last 30+ years has improved my life, my families lives, my friends
lives, my neighbors lives, etc. *Indeed, most of my friends who are
around my age are wondering how they are going to replace their
retirement funds ... they feel as if they have been robbed ... I will
feel better when these republicans and democrats start imprisoning and
hanging the criminals--bipartisan-ly!

Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation in
secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of debate and
amendment procedures as part of America's governing legislative process..


Well, I would certainly hate to see any more secrecy, control by big
brother, more cameras by big brother, more thought control laws, more
fear, more unsafe streets, more poverty, more lack of health care, more
poor performance of our schools, more deterioration of public
roads-water-sewer-power-infrastructure, etc. ... everything Obama is
saying and doing, at this time, certainly is not along your fears ...
however, it is always good to keep watch.


- After a year, a person should be able to make some
- sort of rational appraisment(s) of his performance --
- say around the middle of January 2010 ...
-
- Regards,
- JS

JS,

Yeah - Around JAN 2010 it will 'officially'
become : Blame Obama Time !

Hey Kids What Time Is It . . .
it's blame obama time,
It's Blame Obama Time.
IT'S BLAME OBAMA TIME !

give obama a year to set things right again
and after that . . . either heap-on the praise
or pile-on the blame ~ RHF

Dave[_18_] January 6th 09 01:25 PM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 
MNMikeW wrote:


Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation in
secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of debate and
amendment procedures as part of America's governing legislative process.

Wow! Elections have consequences; who 'da thunk it?

MnMikew January 6th 09 03:45 PM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
MNMikeW wrote:


Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation
in secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of
debate and amendment procedures as part of America's governing
legislative process.

Wow! Elections have consequences; who 'da thunk it?


Change and Hope, LOL!



Dave[_18_] January 7th 09 01:06 PM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 
MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
m...
MNMikeW wrote:

Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation
in secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of
debate and amendment procedures as part of America's governing
legislative process.

Wow! Elections have consequences; who 'da thunk it?


Change and Hope, LOL!


Beats the **** out of Shock and Awe. Warmongers will atone.

David Eduardo[_4_] January 7th 09 03:56 PM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
m...
MNMikeW wrote:

Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation
in secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of
debate and amendment procedures as part of America's governing
legislative process.

Wow! Elections have consequences; who 'da thunk it?


Change and Hope, LOL!


Beats the **** out of Shock and Awe. Warmongers will atone.


That's what they told Attila the Hun and Genghis Kahn, too.

History is on the side of "might is Right" and not peace marches.


RHF January 7th 09 04:54 PM

(OT) : 2009 Politics - Let Us Wage Peace Around The World
 
On Jan 7, 7:56*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

m...



MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
news:hoydncs25rQjxv7UnZ2dnUVZ_rjinZ2d@earthlink. com...
MNMikeW wrote:


Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation
in secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of
debate and amendment procedures as part of America's governing
legislative process.


- - - - Wow! *Elections have consequences; *who 'da thunk it?

- - - Change and Hope, LOL!

- - Beats the **** out of Shock and Awe.
- - Warmongers will atone.

- That's what they told Attila the Hun and Genghis Kahn, too.
- History is on the side of "might is Right"
- and not peace marches.

Just Don't Forget There Can Be "Mighty Peace Marches"
http://en.epochtimes.com/news_images/2005-1-16-mlk.jpg
Of The People & By The People & For The People
http://www.gwu.edu/~erpapers/humanri...ndhi-india.jpg

The Power of the People is The People Themselves
Every Man and Women in Uniform has Family and
Friends at Home Who Want Them Home Safe Living
in a Free America that is At-Peace-With-The-World.
amen, Amen. and AMEN ! - http://tinyurl.com/8nlqx2

let us wage peace around the world ~ RHF
http://www.visionaryshirts.com/thumb...EACE%20SAM.jpg

Brenda Ann January 7th 09 09:00 PM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
MNMikeW wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
m...
MNMikeW wrote:

Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble
legislation in secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the
elimination of debate and amendment procedures as part of America's
governing legislative process.

Wow! Elections have consequences; who 'da thunk it?

Change and Hope, LOL!


Beats the **** out of Shock and Awe. Warmongers will atone.


That's what they told Attila the Hun and Genghis Kahn, too.

History is on the side of "might is Right" and not peace marches.


History is written by the winners..

Christ told us that the meek shall inherit the earth. God told us 'thou
shalt not kill'. Now, I know that a lot of people will point out various
battles in the Bible.. but to me, at least, those four words are pretty
succint. As the AFN TV ads say about the UCMJ.. no room for fudge factor
when taken at face value.



John Smith January 8th 09 05:50 AM

(OT) : In One Year Will We Be - Heaping-On the Praise -or- Piling-Onthe Blame ?
 
RHF wrote:

...
give obama a year to set things right again
and after that . . . either heap-on the praise
or pile-on the blame ~ RHF
.


Uh, no. It will simply be time to ask, "Has the man broke with
tradition and is carrying out what is good for Americans? Is his
proposals, and efforts in this same direction(s)?

If so, IT WILL be time to call for the heads of those attempting to
thwart fixes which are attempting to restore quality of life, and a
general well being for all Americans ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith January 8th 09 05:53 AM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 
Brenda Ann wrote:

...
History is written by the winners..

Christ told us that the meek shall inherit the earth. God told us 'thou
shalt not kill'. Now, I know that a lot of people will point out various
battles in the Bible.. but to me, at least, those four words are pretty
succint. As the AFN TV ads say about the UCMJ.. no room for fudge factor
when taken at face value.



Funny, but I am sure there is a disclaimer in Gods words: "Thou shalt
not kill", and that would be, "unless they are shooting at you, etc. ..."

Of course, we Catholics are that way, yanno'? wink

Regards,
JS

Brenda Ann January 8th 09 08:26 AM

Nanny state repulicrats are prepared to lead you by the nose!
 

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Brenda Ann wrote:

...
History is written by the winners..

Christ told us that the meek shall inherit the earth. God told us 'thou
shalt not kill'. Now, I know that a lot of people will point out various
battles in the Bible.. but to me, at least, those four words are pretty
succint. As the AFN TV ads say about the UCMJ.. no room for fudge factor
when taken at face value.



Funny, but I am sure there is a disclaimer in Gods words: "Thou shalt not
kill", and that would be, "unless they are shooting at you, etc. ..."

Of course, we Catholics are that way, yanno'? wink


I thought the Church quit giving out dispensations a long time ago (wasn't
that the primary reason for the unpleasantness with Martin Luther?).





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