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(OT) : 2009 Politics - Obama's a US Citizen
On Jan 3, 11:54�am, RHF wrote:
On Jan 3, 1:59�am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" �wrote: On Jan 2, 8:24 pm, John Smith wrote: ka6uup wrote: ... His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American citizen no matter where he was born And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question, and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here! Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness ... grin Regards, JS The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a pretty good sign he was born in the US. But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr. PhD. - Even had she done so, he would still be a - natural born US citizen by virtue of his mother - being an American. �Aside from that, she may - have been able to get the paper to post that he - was born in Hawaii, but I doubt she could have - talked the hospital or the clerk into issuing a - Hawaiian birth certificate. BAD, NO the Term is Specific "Natural Born Citizen" meaning that the person was Born in the USA. Note : That an Illegal Alien Invader is just that -but- Their Child which is in-fact Born in the USA "IS" a "Natural Born Citizen" and when that Child reaches the Age of 35 Years are 'qualified' to be the President of the USA. It ain't about Obama's White American Mother It ain't about Obama's Black African Father It is simply about Barack Hussein Obama being Born in the State of Hawaii and BEING a 100% "Natural Born Citizen" of the USA : WHICH HE IS [.] �. (OT) : 2009 Politics - Barack Obama is a "Natural Born Citizen" of the USA and has Attained the Age of 35 Years thus is Legally the US President-Electhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a6d36baf9d8c638b �. Rejoice We Are Entering "The Age of Obama-R-Us"�http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f9e38db4b4ade7 �. WE LOVE* OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA * All American Republi-Can-DoDos For Obama * * All American Christian-True-Believers In Obama * * * BHO Will Be A Great and Wonderful US President �. this is 'rhf' and i disapprove of this off-topic message ~ RHF { equal dis-opportunity net-nannys-r-us } �. �.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I didn't like your subject line |
(OT) : Will There Be Riots and Martial Law -IF- Obama Is Removed FromThe US Presidency ?
On Jan 3, 9:21*am, Mike wrote:
On Jan 3, 11:54 am, RHF wrote: On Jan 3, 1:59 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" wrote: On Jan 2, 8:24 pm, John Smith wrote: ka6uup wrote: ... His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American citizen no matter where he was born And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question, and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here! Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness ... grin Regards, JS The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a pretty good sign he was born in the US. But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr. PhD. - Even had she done so, he would still be a - natural born US citizen by virtue of his mother - being an American. Aside from that, she may - have been able to get the paper to post that he - was born in Hawaii, but I doubt she could have - talked the hospital or the clerk into issuing a - Hawaiian birth certificate. BAD, NO the Term is Specific "Natural Born Citizen" meaning that the person was Born in the USA. Note : That an Illegal Alien Invader is just that -but- Their Child which is in-fact Born in the USA "IS" a "Natural Born Citizen" and when that Child reaches the Age of 35 Years are 'qualified' to be the President of the USA. It ain't about Obama's White American Mother It ain't about Obama's Black African Father It is simply about Barack Hussein Obama being Born in the State of Hawaii and BEING a 100% "Natural Born Citizen" of the USA : WHICH HE IS [.] . (OT) : 2009 Politics - Barack Obama is a "Natural Born Citizen" of the USA and has Attained the Age of 35 Years thus is Legally the US President-Electhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/a6d36baf9d8c638b . Rejoice We Are Entering "The Age of Obama-R-Us"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/adf9e38db4b4ade7 . WE LOVE* OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA * All American Republi-Can-DoDos For Obama * * All American Christian-True-Believers In Obama * * * BHO Will Be A Great and Wonderful US President . this is 'rhf' and i disapprove of this off-topic message ~ RHF { equal dis-opportunity net-nannys-r-us } . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - I didn't like your subject line MWB - This is the one that you posted to : (OT) : 2009 Politics - Barack Obama is a Natural Born US Citizen and has Attained the Age of 35 Years thus is Legally the US President- Elect http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...84e5ea2af1c3b6 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d36baf9d8c638b |
(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote: On Jan 3, 8:40�am, dxAce wrote: Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote: On Jan 3, 5:49 am, dxAce wrote: Brenda Ann wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... While I've not seen a copy of the announcement, I seem to recall hearing that no mention was made in said announcement as to where the birth took place. In the paper, I suppose, one could merely announce that "Mr. and Mrs. XYZ would like to announce the birth of a son, 'BongoDrum', on April 1st". Pretty close to that: Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaoie Hwy., Son, Aug. 4. From the Sunday Advertiser, Aug. 13, 1961, Pp. B-6, Health Bureau Statistics (which infers to me that it was not the parents, but the state/county Health Bureau that sent the information to the paper. And that could perhaps only be a case of them (the Obama's) going to the state/county and registering said birth. Note that no mention being made of the *location* of said birth. Could be interesting to say the least if at some point in time it were to be discovered that Barry was not born in the USA. Looking forward to the riots, dxAce Michigan USA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Maybe you should pursue some education of yourself, Steve. Nah, think I'll just lie about having a PhD like you did, boy! Your grasp of the issue isn't very sharp. Better than yours, boy! Why would America riot if Obama wasn't born in the US? America, or certain ahem elements within the USA? Are you saying you'd be rioting? No, learn some comprehension skills, oh faux one. That might really pump up military recruitment! Yep, it just might.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, the quality of your one-liners certainly hasn't improven. And the real issue isn't whether he was born on US soil. BrendaAnn is right - I think most of these challenges to Obama's citizenship do assume an incredible amount of collaboration and conspiracy to cover-up a foreign birth. I do think, however, that the Donofrio (Google it, Steve) variant of the Berg challenge is a better route if you really want to press a case. That variant admits he was born in Hawaii, but claims he was a British citizen, since his father was a British citizen, as Kenya was a British commonwealth at Obama's birth. The reason his mother didn't make him American was a law, now overturned and no longer in effect, that, in effect caused his mother to have forfeited her US citizenship by marrying a foreign citizen, at her age, something about "5 years past 14." In other words, his mother was a few months too young to legally still be considered a US citizen, thus being unable to pass US citizenship rights to Obama. Convoluted and reliant on a law that was replaced only a year or so after Obama's birth. The Supreme Court ignored the argument and dismissed the case for lack of standing. I've heard some very technical and legalistic discussions on this case and while I can understand why the Supreme Court won't attempt to overrule a popular election, there might be a defendable legal case buried in there... Nineteen out of twenty media references to this case don't explain the exact chain of logic laid out in the case. It has nothing to do with fake birth certificates or whether he was born in Kenya or Indonesia. Indonesia? Heck, you'd better study up, fake PhD Boy! |
(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
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"Brenda Ann" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" wrote: On Jan 2, 8:24�pm, John Smith wrote: ka6uup wrote: � ... His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American citizen no matter where he was born And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question, and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here! Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness ... grin Regards, JS The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a pretty good sign he was born in the US. But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr. PhD. Even had she done so, he would still be a natural born US citizen by virtue of his mother being an American. Aside from that, she may have been able to get the paper to post that he was born in Hawaii, but I doubt she could have talked the hospital or the clerk into issuing a Hawaiian birth certificate. That's not right. It is determined by place of birth. It was never intended that the President or Vice President be born elsewhere. Also the positions require that you spend the last 14 years in the USA. The "rules" have reasoning behind them if you have any question of what the intent was behind the law but if you want to pull a Clinton and redefine "is" you can make anything out of it you want. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
Telamon wrote:
It may be an incredible collaboration to you but pretty simple thing to most people. Possibly you are interpreting his statement the wrong way. I -don't- think he means an "incredible collaboration" would have been required at the time of birth. Rather, he may be referring to the "incredible collaboration" that would be required to keep it covered up *TODAY*. |
(OT) : 2009 Politics - Barack Obama is a Natural Born US Citizenand has Attained the Age of 35 Years thus is Legally the US President-Elect
On Jan 3, 11:29*am, John Smith wrote:
RHF wrote: *. Well, certainly answers my question, "How high a floor does his elevator reach?" Regards, JS Um ShaKa Do Do ! - Be Gone "JS" ~ RHF |
(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
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Billy Burpelson wrote: Telamon wrote: It may be an incredible collaboration to you but pretty simple thing to most people. Possibly you are interpreting his statement the wrong way. I -don't- think he means an "incredible collaboration" would have been required at the time of birth. Rather, he may be referring to the "incredible collaboration" that would be required to keep it covered up *TODAY*. That's the neat thing about "intentionally" introducing an error or falsity into the database or history of an event as it does not need any more support to propagate its existence. Conversely it takes effort to find the error and correct it so you got it backward. Think about it. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
(OT) : Will There Be Riots and Martial Law -IF- Obama Is Removed From The US Presidency ?
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(OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online
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