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[email protected] January 16th 09 11:56 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
Whatever history's verdict on the Bush administration might be, it is
likely to be very different from what we hear from the talking heads
on television or read from the know-it-alls on editorial pages.

President Bush's number one achievement was also the number one
function of government-- to protect its citizens. Nobody on September
11, 2001 believed that there would never be another such attack for
more than seven years.

Unfortunately, people who are protected from dangers often conclude
that there are no dangers. This is most painfully visible among those
Americans who are hysterical over the government's intercepting
international phone calls, in order to disrupt international terrorist
networks.

Many, especially among the intelligentsia, are also obsessed with
whether we are being nice enough to the cut-throats locked up at
Guantanamo, some of whom have already been turned loose to resume a
life of terrorism. The rights of the Geneva Convention do not apply to
people who neither obey the Geneva Convention nor are covered by the
Geneva Convention.

That a President of the United States protected us from deadly enemies
may not seem like much of an accomplishment to some. But it may be
more fully appreciated when we get a President who eases up on that
protection, in order to curry favor at home and abroad.

We can only hope that it will not take the sight of an American city
lying in radioactive ruins to wake people up to the dangers that
George W. Bush protected us against, despite an unending chorus of
carping.

No one in his right mind would say that the Bush administration was
flawless. But many of their worst political mistakes were the kinds of
mistakes that decent people often make when dealing with indecent
people, both domestically and internationally.

The idea with which President Bush arrived in Washington, that he
could gain bipartisan support by going along with the Democrats, and
not vetoing any bills that Congress passed, ignored the fact that it
takes two to tango.

Having proclaimed his goal as bipartisanship, it was he who was blamed
when the bipartisanship failed to materialize. Wooing Ted Kennedy and
going along with massive government spending did not stop Kennedy from
getting up in the Senate and loudly proclaiming that Bush "lied, and
lied and lied!" about Iraq.

Whatever the merits or demerits of going to war against Saddam
Hussein, the question whether he had weapons of mass destruction
immediately at hand makes a better talking point than a serious
argument.

President Bush was not the only national leader who thought Saddam
Hussein had such weapons, nor were such weapons the only reason why
the Iraqi dictator posed a continuing danger that all diplomatic
efforts, over more than a decade, had failed to extinguish.

This issue can be debated, and no doubt will be debated for years, if
not generations, to come. But the irresponsible charge that "Bush
lied" for some nefarious purpose-- to trade "blood for oil" or to
generate business for Halliburton, for example-- is more than a
slander against him. It undermines our whole nation and gives comfort
to our enemies around the world.

Domestically, the Bush legacy leaves a lot to be desired. Going along
with the McCain-Feingold bill restricting free speech was perhaps the
Bush administration's biggest dereliction of duty. Maybe they figured
that they could pass the problem along to the Supreme Court to stop
it, since this bill so clearly violated the First Amendment to the
Constitution.

But the Supreme Court was also guilty of a dereliction of its duty and
let the McCain-Feingold bill stand.

Advocating amnesty for illegal aliens was another political disaster,
especially when accompanied by denials of the obvious.

Although the Bush administration went along with the chorus of calls
for promoting home ownership among people who could not afford home
ownership, President Bush at least sounded a warning while others were
still pushing lenders to lend to people who proved unable to repay
their loans.

A mixed bag? Aren't we all? But an honorable man.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Thoma...he_bush_legacy

[email protected] January 17th 09 01:11 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
Gosh you sure have everyone fooled by posting under different user
id's!
What other names/email addys are you using besides


75.42.232.96
City Dallas
State/Region TX
Zipcode 75202
Area Code 214
Country US
Latitude 32.7791
Longitude -96.8028

Get a life you racist troll.

doc marten January 17th 09 02:37 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
In article
,
wrote:

Whatever history's verdict on the Bush administration might be, it is
likely to be very different from what we hear from the talking heads
on television or read from the know-it-alls on editorial pages.


and let's not forget who "Let It Happen" Dick Cheney and his Neo-Cons.
Yes, President Cheney let 9/11 happen.
--
When the Power of Love,replaces the Love of Power.
that's Evolution.

RHF January 17th 09 03:18 AM

(OT) : Doc Matten -proclaims- President Cheney Let 9/11 Happen
 
On Jan 16, 6:37*pm, doc marten wrote:
In article
,

wrote:
Whatever history's verdict on the Bush administration might be, it is
likely to be very different from what we hear from the talking heads
on television or read from the know-it-alls on editorial pages.


- and let's not forget who "Let It Happen" *
- Dick Cheney and his Neo-Cons.
- Yes, President Cheney let 9/11 happen.
- --
- When the Power of Love,replaces the Love of Power.
- that's Evolution.

Doc Matten -proclaims- President Cheney Let 9/11 Happen

hey 'doc' when did cheney get the promotion ? ~ RHF

[email protected] January 17th 09 03:37 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
On Jan 16, 7:11*pm, wrote:
Gosh you sure have everyone fooled by posting under different user
id's!
What other names/email addys are you using besides


75.42.232.96
City * *Dallas
State/Region * *TX
Zipcode * * * * 75202
Area Code * * * 214
Country * * * * US
Latitude * * * *32.7791
Longitude * * * -96.8028

Get a life you racist troll.


How are the tractors on your pig farm?

City: Wausa, Nebraska
Latitude: 42.511
Longitude: -97.5634
Area Code: 402

Population 636

Median age 48 years

Median income 28,929 - ROTFLMAO!

8.1% of the population were below the poverty line - bwAHAHAHAHAHA!

The racial makeup of Wausa, Nebraska was 98.90% White - ROTFLMAO!

There were 276 households out of which 38.0% were NON-FAMILIES?
37.0% of all households were made up of individuals - Lonely
unemployed pathethic white trash listening to shortwave radio.


Billy Burpelson[_2_] January 17th 09 04:08 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
wrote:

President Bush's number one achievement was also the number one
function of government-- to protect its citizens. Nobody on September
11, 2001 believed that there would never be another such attack for
more than seven years.


So, there were no more terrorist attacks because of Bush, eh?

Your naiveté reminds me of the old 'Elephant story'...

Two guys are on the bus in Manhattan, both heading for the Patent
Office. One guy asks the other guy "What does your invention do?" He
says "It repels elephants".

The first guy says "How do you know it works?"

The second guy says "Look out the bus window. You don't see any
elephants, do you?"

So, were there no terrorist attacks because of Bush...or because no
terrorist attacks were planned? How can you tell which it is? You are a
lot like the guy saying 'there are no elephants in Manhattan' to prove
your case.

Thanks for once again demonstrating that, IMHO, you are a gullible fool,
no doubt one of the 20% that think Bush has done a fine, fine job.

Billy Burpelson[_2_] January 17th 09 04:09 PM

The Bush Legacy
 

On Jan 16, 7:11 pm, wrote:
Gosh you sure have everyone fooled by posting under different user
id's!
What other names/email addys are you using besides


75.42.232.96
City Dallas
State/Region TX
Zipcode 75202
Area Code 214
Country US
Latitude 32.7791
Longitude -96.8028

Get a life you racist troll.


wrote:

How are the tractors on your pig farm?

City: Wausa, Nebraska
Latitude: 42.511
Longitude: -97.5634
Area Code: 402

Population 636

Median age 48 years

Median income 28,929 - ROTFLMAO!

8.1% of the population were below the poverty line - bwAHAHAHAHAHA!


So what's your point? The number of people below the poverty line has
increased for nearly every year of Bush's term.

Heck of a job, Georgie!

§tarkiller© January 17th 09 04:17 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:09:46 -0500, Billy Burpelson
wrote:


On Jan 16, 7:11 pm, wrote:
Gosh you sure have everyone fooled by posting under different user
id's!
What other names/email addys are you using besides


75.42.232.96
City Dallas
State/Region TX
Zipcode 75202
Area Code 214
Country US
Latitude 32.7791
Longitude -96.8028

Get a life you racist troll.


wrote:

How are the tractors on your pig farm?

City: Wausa, Nebraska
Latitude: 42.511
Longitude: -97.5634
Area Code: 402

Population 636

Median age 48 years

Median income 28,929 - ROTFLMAO!

8.1% of the population were below the poverty line - bwAHAHAHAHAHA!


So what's your point? The number of people below the poverty line has
increased for nearly every year of Bush's term.

Heck of a job, Georgie!


LIAR

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...th/010583.html

SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim January 17th 09 04:24 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
Presidunce Bush's number one achievement was to completely destroy the
united states economy, and he acheived that without a doubt.

the traitor george heil hitler bush should be executed

death to the traitor bush, execute the terrorist bush



Billy Burpelson[_2_] January 17th 09 04:44 PM

The Bush Legacy
 

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:09:46 -0500, Billy Burpelson
wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:11 pm, wrote:
Gosh you sure have everyone fooled by posting under different user
id's!
What other names/email addys are you using besides


75.42.232.96
City Dallas
State/Region TX
Zipcode 75202
Area Code 214
Country US
Latitude 32.7791
Longitude -96.8028

Get a life you racist troll.

wrote:

How are the tractors on your pig farm?

City: Wausa, Nebraska
Latitude: 42.511
Longitude: -97.5634
Area Code: 402

Population 636

Median age 48 years

Median income 28,929 - ROTFLMAO!

8.1% of the population were below the poverty line - bwAHAHAHAHAHA!

So what's your point? The number of people below the poverty line has
increased for nearly every year of Bush's term.

Heck of a job, Georgie!


§tarkiller© wrote:

LIAR


Nope, not a liar. Please pay attention. I said *NEARLY* every year.

People on poverty went *UP* in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005, with a
fractional decrease in 2006, which is as far as the charts and tables
went that I could find. However, I will leave it up to your keen
intellect to determine what happened to the poverty rate in the Great
Depression of 2007 and 2008.

Again, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION! I said "nearly", meaning it was UP for FIVE
years and down (marginally) for only one year (2006). No figures
available yet for '07 and '08, but with all the jobs lost in those
years, you figure out which way the poverty rate is going.

Heck of job, Georgie!

Dave[_18_] January 17th 09 10:27 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
wrote:
Whatever history's verdict on the Bush administration might be, it is
likely to be very different from what we hear from the talking heads
on television or read from the know-it-alls on editorial pages.

President Bush's number one achievement was also the number one
function of government-- to protect its citizens.


Except for that 9-11 thing...

And what about the Anthrax Mailings?

Bush gave Bin Ladin everything he asked for; why would he attack us again?

[email protected] January 18th 09 03:13 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
Uncovered Photos of Obama's Secret Seventies Disco Funk Punk.
www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=122&a=1613

If the URL I posted doesn't work, go to www.rense.com you will find
it there.Send it to everybody you know and everybody you don't know.Get
busy, hurry up!
cuhulin


duke January 18th 09 01:09 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:08:03 -0500, Billy Burpelson
wrote:

wrote:

President Bush's number one achievement was also the number one
function of government-- to protect its citizens. Nobody on September
11, 2001 believed that there would never be another such attack for
more than seven years.


So, there were no more terrorist attacks because of Bush, eh?

Your naiveté reminds me of the old 'Elephant story'...

Two guys are on the bus in Manhattan, both heading for the Patent
Office. One guy asks the other guy "What does your invention do?" He
says "It repels elephants".

The first guy says "How do you know it works?"

The second guy says "Look out the bus window. You don't see any
elephants, do you?"

So, were there no terrorist attacks because of Bush...or because no
terrorist attacks were planned? How can you tell which it is? You are a
lot like the guy saying 'there are no elephants in Manhattan' to prove
your case.

Thanks for once again demonstrating that, IMHO, you are a gullible fool,
no doubt one of the 20% that think Bush has done a fine, fine job.


I'm one of the 75% that thinks he did a great job.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Brenda Ann January 18th 09 01:14 PM

The Bush Legacy
 

"duke" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:08:03 -0500, Billy Burpelson

wrote:

wrote:

President Bush's number one achievement was also the number one
function of government-- to protect its citizens. Nobody on September
11, 2001 believed that there would never be another such attack for
more than seven years.


So, there were no more terrorist attacks because of Bush, eh?

Your naiveté reminds me of the old 'Elephant story'...

Two guys are on the bus in Manhattan, both heading for the Patent
Office. One guy asks the other guy "What does your invention do?" He
says "It repels elephants".

The first guy says "How do you know it works?"

The second guy says "Look out the bus window. You don't see any
elephants, do you?"

So, were there no terrorist attacks because of Bush...or because no
terrorist attacks were planned? How can you tell which it is? You are a
lot like the guy saying 'there are no elephants in Manhattan' to prove
your case.

Thanks for once again demonstrating that, IMHO, you are a gullible fool,
no doubt one of the 20% that think Bush has done a fine, fine job.


I'm one of the 75% that thinks he did a great job.


Um... have you read a poll since 2004? The most recent show only about 21%
thought he did even a good job, only about 11% thought he did a 'great' job.



[email protected][_2_] January 18th 09 03:05 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
On Jan 18, 5:14*am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"duke" wrote in message
I'm one of the 75% that thinks he did a great job.


Um... have you read a poll since 2004? The most recent show only about 21%
thought he did even a good job, only about 11% thought he did a 'great' job

It is probable that his claim of hundreds of QSLs is similarly
inflated and delusional.

[email protected] January 18th 09 05:08 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
Get ahold of Kitty Kelley's books about those Bushes and Klintoons, all
of those sorry a.s politicians.

Little doggy (she owns the couch) and I have to watch Father Goose movie
on the TCM channel right now.
cuhulin


[email protected] January 19th 09 03:51 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
On Jan 18, 3:53*pm, duke wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:14:40 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
Thanks for once again demonstrating that, IMHO, you are a gullible fool,
no doubt one of the 20% that think Bush has done a fine, fine job.
I'm one of the 75% that thinks he did a great job.

Um... have you read a poll since 2004? The most recent show only about 21%
thought he did even a good job, only about 11% thought he did a 'great' job.


He took a 911 that 'rat willie handed him while he, 'rat willie, was getting
blow jobs and secured the safety of the American public. *We have not had a
terrorist attack since 911. *And Iraq is now a fledging democracy where we had a
dictator hell bent on developing a nuclear arsenal and blackmailing the Middle
East and it's oil supply

Even o'boy is beginning to change his way of thinking knowing that President
Bush was right all along.

Then we have the unfortunate credit/finanical crisis, which is a 'rat specialty
handed to the American public by 'rat willie also. *It was not President Bush
behind that one. *That one really came from 'rat willie pushing low-rate and
undocumented loans to every loser in the land using the excess funds left over
when President Reagan's Star Wars initiative knocked the USSR into yelling "we
give up".

So you can say that President Bush's approval rating was down, but it was still
greater than the 'rat Congress of the last 2 years. *So we can face facts and
acknowledge that we have an unhappy America, but it's an overall problem and not
one for George Bush alone.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****


Interesting that none of our military friends have chimed in on this
one. I wonder what they all think???

Brenda Ann January 19th 09 04:11 AM

The Bush Legacy
 

wrote in message
...

Interesting that none of our military friends have chimed in on this
one. I wonder what they all think???

Nor are you likely to, at least from active military, as it is against the
UCMJ to talk disrespectfully of elected officials and some other government
employees, and/or superior officers, especially the CinC. You might see if
someone has something good to say, but rarely will you see an active duty
soldier say anything negative about the CinC, especially where it could be
traced back to them.




Dave[_18_] January 19th 09 02:05 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
wrote:
On Jan 18, 3:53 pm, duke wrote:



So you can say that President Bush's approval rating was down, but it was still
greater than the 'rat Congress of the last 2 years. So we can face facts and
acknowledge that we have an unhappy America, but it's an overall problem and not
one for George Bush alone.


Interesting that none of our military friends have chimed in on this
one. I wonder what they all think???


Congress gets an "F" for not putting Bush in jail where he belongs.

The military are a bunch of pussies and traitors. They have an
obligation to NOT follow unlawful orders and to protect the
Constitution; they failed on both counts.

This country is over. Don't let the pageantry misdirect your anger.

Billy Burpelson[_2_] January 20th 09 06:55 PM

The Bush Legacy
 

wrote:

....about Bush's legacy, overlooking a few of the facts below:


Fishy, here is the REST of "The Bush Legacy"...

* On average, the amount an employee pays toward employer provided
health care has gone up by 120% since 2000.

* When Bush took office in 2001, the country had a budget SURPLUS of 128
billion. The budget DEFICIT for 2009 is projected to be 1.2 TRILLION.

* When Bush took office in 2001, the nation's unemployment rate was 4%.
The rate for 2008, his last full year in office, was 7.2%, making 2008
the worst year for job losses since World War II.

* The national debt, from the inception of the country over 200 years
ago, stood at 5.7 trillion when Bush took office. Today, in the eight
short years of his term, it has risen to over 10.6 trillion.

* In 2001, 41.2 million Americans did not have health insurance. In
2007, the latest figure available, the number of uninsured has increased
to 45.7 million (and no doubt has gone higher with all the job losses in
2008).

* When Bush took office on January 20, 2001, the Dow Jones Industrial
Average was 10,587. Today, it's around 8100-8200 and threatening to go
over the cliff.

* In 2008, the number of foreclosure proceedings increased 81% over 2007
and by 225% over 2006.

* Between January 2001 and June 2008, the country lost 3 million
manufacturing jobs.

* In 2000, the year before Bush took office, 6.4 million -families- were
living in poverty. By 2007, that figure has risen to 7.6 million (and no
doubt has gone higher with all the job losses in 2008).

* More than 4000 American deaths, untold Iraqi deaths, almost a TRILLION
dollars spent, torture in Abu Ghraib and damaged relationships with our
allies for this 'war' that was started for invalid reasons. We will
spend decades recovering from his fiascoes.

Once again, HECK OF A JOB, GEORGIE!!! GREAT LEGACY!


[email protected] February 1st 09 04:47 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
On Jan 18, 10:11*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
wrote in message

...

Interesting that none of our military friends have chimed in on this
one. *I wonder what they all think???

Nor are you likely to, at least from active military, as it is against the
UCMJ to talk disrespectfully of elected officials and some other government
employees, and/or superior officers, especially the CinC. *You might see if
someone has something good to say, but rarely will you see an active duty
soldier say anything negative about the CinC, especially where it could be
traced back to them.


Thanks for the clarification. Explains a lot.

[email protected] February 1st 09 05:10 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
Proof Obama went by Barry Soetoro at Occidental.
www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd431.htm

Did B HO ever officially change his name?
cuhulin


dave February 1st 09 03:47 PM

The Bush Legacy
 
wrote:
Proof Obama went by Barry Soetoro at Occidental.
www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd431.htm

Did B HO ever officially change his name?
cuhulin

Did Gerry Ford? Bill Clinton? Does it matter?

Telamon February 3rd 09 01:58 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

wrote:
Proof Obama went by Barry Soetoro at Occidental.
www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd431.htm

Did B HO ever officially change his name?
cuhulin

Did Gerry Ford? Bill Clinton? Does it matter?


I changed it to the obomination.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

D. Stussy February 3rd 09 07:44 AM

The Bush Legacy
 
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
dave wrote:
wrote:
Proof Obama went by Barry Soetoro at Occidental.
www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd431.htm

Did B HO ever officially change his name?
cuhulin

Did Gerry Ford? Bill Clinton? Does it matter?


I changed it to the obomination.


That's an old one. So is "President B.O."



RHF February 3rd 09 05:53 PM

(OT) : "BO Administration" Starts To Smell It's Way Around -was- TheBush Legacy
 
On Feb 2, 11:44*pm, "D. Stussy" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

...

In article ,
*dave wrote:
wrote:
Proof Obama went by Barry Soetoro at Occidental.
www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd431.htm


Did B *HO ever officially change his name?
cuhulin


Did Gerry Ford? *Bill Clinton? *Does it matter?


I changed it to the obomination.


- That's an old one. *So is "President B.O."

-more-likely- 'presidential bo'
{after playing basketball}

The name is President Barack 'Hussein' Obama = "BHO"

Please do not refer to him as "BO" or for that
matter the "BO Administration"

(OT) : "BO Administration" Starts To Smell It's Way Around :-}

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-MIA- President Obama ? and FEMA !
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