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Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami....html#comments


Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?
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On Feb 2, 7:22*am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


D'Oh ! -think-about-it- You Got To Figure Out A Way
To Make Internet Audio Broadcasting P-A-Y $ $ $ :
Before You Pay-for-the-Music used on it ~ RHF
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On Feb 2, 10:28*am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:12*pm, RHF wrote:



On Feb 2, 7:22*am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:


Radio gives up on webcasting.


Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.


And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.


http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely....


Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....


Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?


Maybe somebody should ask them?


D'Oh ! -think-about-it- *You Got To Figure Out A Way
To Make Internet Audio Broadcasting P-A-Y $ $ $ :
Before You Pay-for-the-Music used on it ~ RHF
*.
-hint- Subscription WebCasting {Pay-to-Listen}
-a-la- Subscription Satellite Radio
-while- Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio is F-R-E-E !
-ps- i choose 'free'
*.
*.


When and if HD grabs any measurable audience, the RIAA will also
notice and want their unfair share of fees..
So if broadcasters like Renda Broadcasting won't pay and play for
internet access, will they ever go HD?
What a joke...


CCK,

HD-Radio is "Radio" and AM & FM Radio
has a proven method of generating Income
for more than 80 Years.
# 1 - Paid for by Advertisers {Sellers} plus
# 2 - Free Over-the-Air to Listeners {Buyers}
-finite- 'Limited' Number of Radio Stations

Webcasting's main problem is a potentially Infinite
{Unlimited} Number of Internet Audio Providers and
very small numbers of Customers per Provider :
thus NO PROFIT POTENTIAL for 99% of them.


Webcasting that is 'connected' to a real AM & FM
Radio Station and an 'established' Listener Base :
Has the best chance of becoming a real Business.

d'oh, D'Oh. D'OH ! ~ RHF
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"Commander Col. Klink" wrote in message
...

When and if HD grabs any measurable audience, the RIAA will also
notice and want their unfair share of fees..
So if broadcasters like Renda Broadcasting won't pay and play for
internet access, will they ever go HD?
What a joke...

RIAA already charges the same fees for all digital broadcasts/netcasts.
These fees are something like 3-4x higher than those for OTA broadcasts
because of "potential audience." RIAA figures that there are 5 billion
potential listeners out there, and that x amount of them are going to be
listening to a given station at any given time, and charges accordingly. If
this sort of thing continues, not only is broadcast radio in the US doomed,
but ALL music radio as well as the music industry itself. I wouldn't have
near so much anger at the situation if any of this extra $$$$$ was going to
the actual artists, but it isn't.. it's all going into RIAA member's wallets
(record industry execs).





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On Feb 2, 10:22�am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


The Internet Royalties, and lack of demand, may have also killed
Bonneville's iChannel HD Radio Network, and CCU's Format Lab HD Radio
streaming. What a shame, wait until the RIAA finishes off terrestrial
radio/HD Radio.


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Default enaRadio gives up on webcasting.

On Feb 2, 10:22�am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


Eduardo - FM radio is going to have to become just like the successful
news/talk/sports formats on the 50kw AM stations. One FM (105.7) in
Baltimore, Md. already flipped to all-sports.
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Default enaRadio gives up on webcasting.

On Feb 2, 10:22�am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


Streaming Pandora, Last.fm, and Slacker also killed streaming
terrestrial radio.
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RHF wrote:


Webcasting that is 'connected' to a real AM & FM
Radio Station and an 'established' Listener Base :
Has the best chance of becoming a real Business.

d'oh, D'Oh. D'OH ! ~ RHF
.

The most popular webcasters are not directly affiliated with any OTA
broadcasters.

http://www.shoutcast.com/


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"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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Eduardo - FM radio is going to have to become just like the successful
news/talk/sports formats on the 50kw AM stations. One FM (105.7) in
Baltimore, Md. already flipped to all-sports.

There already are all sports FMs in places ranging from Detroit to Portland,
OR to Denver... the first moves have been news/talk formats, now in the
dozens on FM, and now Sports is moving there.

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Default (OT) : RIAA is Killing the Future of WebCasting as an Income Sourcewith Higher than Radio Fees

On Feb 2, 1:40*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Commander Col. Klink" wrote in ...

When and if HD grabs any measurable audience, the RIAA will also
notice and want their unfair share of fees..
So if broadcasters like Renda Broadcasting won't pay and play for
internet access, will they ever go HD?
What a joke...

RIAA already charges the same fees for all digital broadcasts/netcasts.
These fees are something like 3-4x higher than those for OTA broadcasts
because of "potential audience." *RIAA figures that there are 5 billion
potential listeners out there, and that x amount of them *are going to be
listening to a given station at any given time, and charges accordingly. If
this sort of thing continues, not only is broadcast radio in the US doomed,
but ALL music radio as well as the music industry itself. *I wouldn't have
near so much anger at the situation if any of this extra $$$$$ was going to
the actual artists, but it isn't.. it's all going into RIAA member's wallets
(record industry execs).


RIAA Should take a Lesion for Drug Dealers
and have started off with half-price for 3-Years
followed by the Radio-Price for 3-Years and
then what ever the Numbers really tell them
for the 7th Year and beyond. The WebCasting
Business Model has to grow and develop into
Profitability before it can be a consistent Income
Stream for the RIAA. At the end of the 7th Year
the actually WebCasting Businesses will still
be 'in-business' and the unprofitable ones will
be out-of-business thus making the remaining
WebCasting Businesses better businesses to
be in by reducing their competition and potentially
increasing their number of Listeners. ~ RHF
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