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Commander Col. Klink February 2nd 09 03:22 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami....html#comments


Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?

RHF February 2nd 09 05:12 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
On Feb 2, 7:22*am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


D'Oh ! -think-about-it- You Got To Figure Out A Way
To Make Internet Audio Broadcasting P-A-Y $ $ $ :
Before You Pay-for-the-Music used on it ~ RHF

RHF February 2nd 09 06:46 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
On Feb 2, 10:28*am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:12*pm, RHF wrote:



On Feb 2, 7:22*am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:


Radio gives up on webcasting.


Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.


And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.


http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely....


Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....


Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?


Maybe somebody should ask them?


D'Oh ! -think-about-it- *You Got To Figure Out A Way
To Make Internet Audio Broadcasting P-A-Y $ $ $ :
Before You Pay-for-the-Music used on it ~ RHF
*.
-hint- Subscription WebCasting {Pay-to-Listen}
-a-la- Subscription Satellite Radio
-while- Over-the-Air AM & FM Radio is F-R-E-E !
-ps- i choose 'free'
*.
*.


When and if HD grabs any measurable audience, the RIAA will also
notice and want their unfair share of fees..
So if broadcasters like Renda Broadcasting won't pay and play for
internet access, will they ever go HD?
What a joke...


CCK,

HD-Radio is "Radio" and AM & FM Radio
has a proven method of generating Income
for more than 80 Years.
# 1 - Paid for by Advertisers {Sellers} plus
# 2 - Free Over-the-Air to Listeners {Buyers}
-finite- 'Limited' Number of Radio Stations

Webcasting's main problem is a potentially Infinite
{Unlimited} Number of Internet Audio Providers and
very small numbers of Customers per Provider :
thus NO PROFIT POTENTIAL for 99% of them.


Webcasting that is 'connected' to a real AM & FM
Radio Station and an 'established' Listener Base :
Has the best chance of becoming a real Business.

d'oh, D'Oh. D'OH ! ~ RHF

Brenda Ann February 2nd 09 09:40 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 

"Commander Col. Klink" wrote in message
...

When and if HD grabs any measurable audience, the RIAA will also
notice and want their unfair share of fees..
So if broadcasters like Renda Broadcasting won't pay and play for
internet access, will they ever go HD?
What a joke...

RIAA already charges the same fees for all digital broadcasts/netcasts.
These fees are something like 3-4x higher than those for OTA broadcasts
because of "potential audience." RIAA figures that there are 5 billion
potential listeners out there, and that x amount of them are going to be
listening to a given station at any given time, and charges accordingly. If
this sort of thing continues, not only is broadcast radio in the US doomed,
but ALL music radio as well as the music industry itself. I wouldn't have
near so much anger at the situation if any of this extra $$$$$ was going to
the actual artists, but it isn't.. it's all going into RIAA member's wallets
(record industry execs).






PocketRadio February 2nd 09 10:17 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
On Feb 2, 10:22�am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


The Internet Royalties, and lack of demand, may have also killed
Bonneville's iChannel HD Radio Network, and CCU's Format Lab HD Radio
streaming. What a shame, wait until the RIAA finishes off terrestrial
radio/HD Radio.

PocketRadio February 2nd 09 10:19 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
On Feb 2, 10:22�am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


Eduardo - FM radio is going to have to become just like the successful
news/talk/sports formats on the 50kw AM stations. One FM (105.7) in
Baltimore, Md. already flipped to all-sports.

PocketRadio February 2nd 09 10:19 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
On Feb 2, 10:22�am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:
Radio gives up on webcasting.

Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.

And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.

http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...

Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....

Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?

Maybe somebody should ask them?


Streaming Pandora, Last.fm, and Slacker also killed streaming
terrestrial radio.

dave February 2nd 09 10:43 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
RHF wrote:


Webcasting that is 'connected' to a real AM & FM
Radio Station and an 'established' Listener Base :
Has the best chance of becoming a real Business.

d'oh, D'Oh. D'OH ! ~ RHF
.

The most popular webcasters are not directly affiliated with any OTA
broadcasters.

http://www.shoutcast.com/



David Eduardo[_4_] February 2nd 09 11:06 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...

Eduardo - FM radio is going to have to become just like the successful
news/talk/sports formats on the 50kw AM stations. One FM (105.7) in
Baltimore, Md. already flipped to all-sports.

There already are all sports FMs in places ranging from Detroit to Portland,
OR to Denver... the first moves have been news/talk formats, now in the
dozens on FM, and now Sports is moving there.


RHF February 2nd 09 11:38 PM

(OT) : RIAA is Killing the Future of WebCasting as an Income Sourcewith Higher than Radio Fees
 
On Feb 2, 1:40*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Commander Col. Klink" wrote in ...

When and if HD grabs any measurable audience, the RIAA will also
notice and want their unfair share of fees..
So if broadcasters like Renda Broadcasting won't pay and play for
internet access, will they ever go HD?
What a joke...

RIAA already charges the same fees for all digital broadcasts/netcasts.
These fees are something like 3-4x higher than those for OTA broadcasts
because of "potential audience." *RIAA figures that there are 5 billion
potential listeners out there, and that x amount of them *are going to be
listening to a given station at any given time, and charges accordingly. If
this sort of thing continues, not only is broadcast radio in the US doomed,
but ALL music radio as well as the music industry itself. *I wouldn't have
near so much anger at the situation if any of this extra $$$$$ was going to
the actual artists, but it isn't.. it's all going into RIAA member's wallets
(record industry execs).


RIAA Should take a Lesion for Drug Dealers
and have started off with half-price for 3-Years
followed by the Radio-Price for 3-Years and
then what ever the Numbers really tell them
for the 7th Year and beyond. The WebCasting
Business Model has to grow and develop into
Profitability before it can be a consistent Income
Stream for the RIAA. At the end of the 7th Year
the actually WebCasting Businesses will still
be 'in-business' and the unprofitable ones will
be out-of-business thus making the remaining
WebCasting Businesses better businesses to
be in by reducing their competition and potentially
increasing their number of Listeners. ~ RHF

RHF February 2nd 09 11:41 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
On Feb 2, 2:19*pm, PocketRadio wrote:
On Feb 2, 10:22 am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:



Radio gives up on webcasting.


Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.


And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.


http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely...


Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....


Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?


Maybe somebody should ask them?


- Streaming Pandora, Last.fm, and Slacker
- also killed streaming terrestrial radio.

HA-ha-ha-ha Pay To Listen Ain't FREE !

Internet Time-Outs are a Real Listener Turn-Off ~ RHF

PocketRadio February 2nd 09 11:49 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
On Feb 2, 6:41�pm, RHF wrote:
On Feb 2, 2:19�pm, PocketRadio wrote:





On Feb 2, 10:22 am, "Commander Col. Klink"
wrote:


Radio gives up on webcasting.


Renda Broadcasting's WSHH-FM (99.7) and WJAS-(1320) ceased their
online broadcasting feature on January 1, 2009 "due to escalating
royalty fees for online streaming broadcasts." WMNY-AM(1360) remains
online. You might recall that Renda Broadcasting was among the first
to pull music from the internet a number of years ago when the RIAA
challenged whether there should be further royalties incurred for
broadcasting over the net.
Way to drive using the rear-view mirror, guys.


And make sure to shut down your electricity when that bill gets too
high, too.


http://www.hear2.com/2009/02/streami...for-absolutely....


Like it or not, webcasting is going to be the future...Either paid or
free, nationwide web Internet access will be available with every
dashboard being web enabled....


Already we're seeing an internet radio made by Blapunkt for
automobiles. I have to ask the question, what does Blapunkt know that
radio doesn't?


Maybe somebody should ask them?


- Streaming Pandora, Last.fm, and Slacker
- also killed streaming terrestrial radio.

HA-ha-ha-ha Pay To Listen Ain't FREE !

Internet Time-Outs are a Real Listener Turn-Off ~ RHF
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- Show quoted text -


These services are all free.

Brenda Ann February 2nd 09 11:55 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...

Streaming Pandora, Last.fm, and Slacker also killed streaming
terrestrial radio.

Unless those have moved to the Live365 model of prepaid licensing, they, too
are doomed (as, in reality, is Live365, but for a different reason). Most
of the streaming services are not legal from the standpoint of copyright
ownership/licensing, and will eventually be shut down by the RIAA and others
like them. This doesn't mean that someone won't pop up to replace them, but
if Napster has taught us anything, it's that the powers that be will win out
eventually, if not in the total war, in most of the battles.




elaich February 3rd 09 02:50 PM

enaRadio gives up on webcasting.
 
PocketRadio wrote in news:5add0dec-5290-4242-9065-
:

These services are all free.


Pandora has been slipping me an ad for a Fox show recently, but it's like
only once every couple hours.

These stations are all basically flawed. They have an interesting premise
(pick a song or artist and hear lots of related stuff) but the algorithyms
don't work properly. Pandora works better than most, but my Sheryl Crow
radio station will faithfully play me the very same songs every day by
Sarah McLachlan, Jewel, Norah Jones, U2, etc. with very little variation.
Songs I've told it to remember from other stations won't even play for
several hours after starting up. I'd rather use the mp3 player on shuffle -
I get a better variety.

RHF February 3rd 09 02:59 PM

(OT) : RIAA is Killing the Future of WebCasting as an IncomeSource with Higher than Radio Fees
 
On Feb 2, 7:48*pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
RIAA Should take a Lesion for Drug Dealers


Drug dealer lesions may be caused by untreated syphilis and should be
left alone. Why should anyone take yet another lesion to a drug dealer
anyway?

If it were up to me, the RIAA would take a *lesson* *FROM* drug dealers.


You certainly seem to know a lot about drug dealers.


The Great American TV News

- How did you pay for your 80+ solar panels anyway?
- hmmmmm?
- mike

Solar Credits and that is not a 'lesson' ~ RHF

dave February 4th 09 01:02 PM

(OT) : RIAA is Killing the Future of WebCasting as an IncomeSource with Higher than Radio Fees
 
wrote:

Mike, i don't remember Rush Limpballs being a dealer, just a user.
Sounds like too many days with Micheal (the weiner) Savage.

OJ.


After the first hundred pills or so (depending on locale), it
automatically becomes an "intent to distribute" charge.


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