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[email protected] February 7th 09 01:23 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky"disaster" man-made
 
What, me Work? ~ Maynard G. Krebs, old Dobie Gillis tv series I used to
watch on Radio tb back in the 1950s.

Somebody would mention Work.Maynard would fall over backwards in his
chair.
cuhulin


[email protected] February 7th 09 01:26 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky"disaster" man-made
 
Ha, you are funny! I have quit the booze.I don't wee wee on doggy's
couch anymore.
cuhulin


Telamon February 7th 09 01:29 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.

You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.

Like I said, I was in Houston for a Category 3 Hurricane. The splices
are still on the wires, from where the un-maintained trees shredded
them. They have since been very proactive regarding preventative
maintenance of right-of-way encroachment.


Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave February 7th 09 01:57 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
Telamon wrote:


Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.


I said you either bury the power lines or trim the trees. Doing nothing
because it may be a long time before there's a storm is gambling with
people's lives.

We used to be better than that. We are a mediocre second-rate ********
country nowadays.

Telamon February 7th 09 02:43 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.


I said you either bury the power lines or trim the trees. Doing nothing
because it may be a long time before there's a storm is gambling with
people's lives.

We used to be better than that. We are a mediocre second-rate ********
country nowadays.


OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point.

Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.

You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.

I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave February 7th 09 03:12 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
Telamon wrote:


OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point.

Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.

You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.

I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.


Cost/benefit analysis is no way to deal with people's essential
services. That is a slippery slope that invariably ends with people dying.

I am neutral on Mr. Obama, but I have seen nothing indicating that he
plans to tell anyone how to live. It is quite a stretch to equate me
stating that disasters are made worse by inaction, to a desire to
micromanage strangers' lives.

People who overpay their taxes all year and then get refunds are morons.
I will cut the state a check, like I do every year. Do you enjoy
loaning money (interest free) to your hero Arnold?

David Eduardo[_4_] February 7th 09 03:23 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:


Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree
needed in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't prepare
for everything.


Why would they protest?


The degree of trimming needed to protect against every contingency would
leave little more than the trunk.

Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.


No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.


dave February 7th 09 03:53 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:


Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree
needed in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't
prepare for everything.


Why would they protest?


The degree of trimming needed to protect against every contingency would
leave little more than the trunk.

Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.


No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.


How many people freezing to death is acceptable in your twisted world?


dave February 7th 09 03:55 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
David Eduardo wrote:



No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.


And freezing rain happens every winter.

Telamon February 7th 09 06:25 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point.

Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.

You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.

I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.


Cost/benefit analysis is no way to deal with people's essential
services. That is a slippery slope that invariably ends with people dying.


Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.

I am neutral on Mr. Obama, but I have seen nothing indicating that he
plans to tell anyone how to live. It is quite a stretch to equate me
stating that disasters are made worse by inaction, to a desire to
micromanage strangers' lives.


The obominanator is willing to have government manage your life to the
extent he can make it possible.

People who overpay their taxes all year and then get refunds are morons.
I will cut the state a check, like I do every year. Do you enjoy
loaning money (interest free) to your hero Arnold?


If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce February 7th 09 11:31 AM

Underground Electrical Wiring Won't Prevent Ice Storm Damage
 


Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce wrote:
Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
from DXLD without credit.

Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.




But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
productive member of society as opposed to you!


SNIP

I don't know about that. A Ph. D is the highest doctorate a person can
normally attain. A person that knows practically all about some subject
to the point that he writes articles and books to further learning about
that subject increasing knowledge among fellow men. He is usually
pushing the boundaries of that subject producing original work.

The path is bachelors, masters, more advanced courses, then a published
dissertation or thesis under the guidance of a sponsor. Once the
published original work is reviewed and accepted by peers in that field
then a Ph.D. is awarded by the university where the work was done.

So where is your thesis?


It's lost in space!

Who was your sponsor?


Bryant definitely needs a sponsor!

What have you published since then?


He's "published" a lot of undocumented claims!




dxAce February 7th 09 11:36 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 


dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.


I said you either bury the power lines or trim the trees. Doing nothing
because it may be a long time before there's a storm is gambling with
people's lives.

We used to be better than that. We are a mediocre second-rate ********
country nowadays.


Crap, they've a private contractor trimming trees every spring, summer and fall
here.

Sometimes I think they go overboard, but, it sure is cool that they can feed a
huge branch into those chippers!



Telamon February 7th 09 11:55 AM

Underground Electrical Wiring Won't Prevent Ice Storm Damage
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce wrote:
Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
from DXLD without credit.

Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.



But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
productive member of society as opposed to you!


SNIP

I don't know about that. A Ph. D is the highest doctorate a person can
normally attain. A person that knows practically all about some subject
to the point that he writes articles and books to further learning about
that subject increasing knowledge among fellow men. He is usually
pushing the boundaries of that subject producing original work.

The path is bachelors, masters, more advanced courses, then a published
dissertation or thesis under the guidance of a sponsor. Once the
published original work is reviewed and accepted by peers in that field
then a Ph.D. is awarded by the university where the work was done.

So where is your thesis?


It's lost in space!

Who was your sponsor?


Bryant definitely needs a sponsor!

What have you published since then?


He's "published" a lot of undocumented claims!


I'll have to accept your answers DxAce since Mikey has none of his own.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce February 7th 09 12:00 PM

Underground Electrical Wiring Won't Prevent Ice Storm Damage
 


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce wrote:
Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
from DXLD without credit.

Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.



But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
productive member of society as opposed to you!

SNIP

I don't know about that. A Ph. D is the highest doctorate a person can
normally attain. A person that knows practically all about some subject
to the point that he writes articles and books to further learning about
that subject increasing knowledge among fellow men. He is usually
pushing the boundaries of that subject producing original work.

The path is bachelors, masters, more advanced courses, then a published
dissertation or thesis under the guidance of a sponsor. Once the
published original work is reviewed and accepted by peers in that field
then a Ph.D. is awarded by the university where the work was done.

So where is your thesis?


It's lost in space!

Who was your sponsor?


Bryant definitely needs a sponsor!

What have you published since then?


He's "published" a lot of undocumented claims!


I'll have to accept your answers DxAce since Mikey has none of his own.


Well, he has "claimed" to have completed all of his doctoral work, except for his
dissertation...

....I still remember the laugh the woman had there in the records department at
Wayne State when she was checking his records...it spoke volumes!



Telamon February 7th 09 12:10 PM

Underground Electrical Wiring Won't Prevent Ice Storm Damage
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce wrote:
Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting
material
from DXLD without credit.

Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne
State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.



But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
productive member of society as opposed to you!

SNIP

I don't know about that. A Ph. D is the highest doctorate a person can
normally attain. A person that knows practically all about some subject
to the point that he writes articles and books to further learning
about
that subject increasing knowledge among fellow men. He is usually
pushing the boundaries of that subject producing original work.

The path is bachelors, masters, more advanced courses, then a published
dissertation or thesis under the guidance of a sponsor. Once the
published original work is reviewed and accepted by peers in that field
then a Ph.D. is awarded by the university where the work was done.

So where is your thesis?

It's lost in space!

Who was your sponsor?

Bryant definitely needs a sponsor!

What have you published since then?

He's "published" a lot of undocumented claims!


I'll have to accept your answers DxAce since Mikey has none of his own.


Well, he has "claimed" to have completed all of his doctoral work, except for
his
dissertation...

...I still remember the laugh the woman had there in the records department
at
Wayne State when she was checking his records...it spoke volumes!


Well, maybe the problem was he could not get someone to sponsor or
mentor him. He must have ticked everyone off.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce February 7th 09 12:15 PM

Underground Electrical Wiring Won't Prevent Ice Storm Damage
 


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce wrote:
Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting
material
from DXLD without credit.

Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne
State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.



But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
productive member of society as opposed to you!

SNIP

I don't know about that. A Ph. D is the highest doctorate a person can
normally attain. A person that knows practically all about some subject
to the point that he writes articles and books to further learning
about
that subject increasing knowledge among fellow men. He is usually
pushing the boundaries of that subject producing original work.

The path is bachelors, masters, more advanced courses, then a published
dissertation or thesis under the guidance of a sponsor. Once the
published original work is reviewed and accepted by peers in that field
then a Ph.D. is awarded by the university where the work was done.

So where is your thesis?

It's lost in space!

Who was your sponsor?

Bryant definitely needs a sponsor!

What have you published since then?

He's "published" a lot of undocumented claims!

I'll have to accept your answers DxAce since Mikey has none of his own.


Well, he has "claimed" to have completed all of his doctoral work, except for
his
dissertation...

...I still remember the laugh the woman had there in the records department
at
Wayne State when she was checking his records...it spoke volumes!


Well, maybe the problem was he could not get someone to sponsor or
mentor him. He must have ticked everyone off.


Yeah, maybe he did. In retrospect I should have asked a few more questions, but at
the time I was only interested in verifying that he did not indeed have a PhD. And
BINGO!, he didn't. It was a great moment. Kind of like finding out that 'Eduardo'
never held an amateur radio license!



dave February 7th 09 02:07 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
Telamon wrote:


Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.


That is absurd on its face

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.


I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.

dave February 7th 09 02:15 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
dxAce wrote:


Crap, they've a private contractor trimming trees every spring, summer and fall
here.

Sometimes I think they go overboard, but, it sure is cool that they can feed a
huge branch into those chippers!


Thanks, Steve. Is your community "affluent"?

dxAce February 7th 09 04:23 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 


dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:


Crap, they've a private contractor trimming trees every spring, summer and fall
here.

Sometimes I think they go overboard, but, it sure is cool that they can feed a
huge branch into those chippers!


Thanks, Steve. Is your community "affluent"?


Affluent enough I suppose to have the tree trimmers here quite a bit!



RHF February 7th 09 04:30 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
On Feb 6, 5:01*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.


You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.


Like I said, I was in Houston for a Category 3 Hurricane. *The splices
are still on the wires, from where the un-maintained trees shredded
them. *They have since been very proactive regarding preventative
maintenance of right-of-way encroachment.


D'Oh ! - Dave,

The Tree that they 'trim' on the Right-of-Way side
then is often un-balanced and then Falls-a-way on
to the Property and the Owner's House.

go figure . . . ~ RHF

RHF February 7th 09 04:34 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate Shit-HoleCountry Nowadays
 
On Feb 6, 5:57*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.


Now answer the question you originally posed.


I said you either bury the power lines or trim the trees. *Doing nothing
because it may be a long time before there's a storm is gambling with
people's lives.

We used to be better than that.


- We are a mediocre second-rate ******** country nowadays.

Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate
****-Hole Country Nowadays.

Dave - I am sure that President Obama enjoys
your support of his Leadership. ~ RHF

RHF February 7th 09 04:53 PM

(OT) : California State IOUs Short-Changing California's
 
On Feb 6, 7:12*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point..


Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.


You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.


I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.


Cost/benefit analysis is no way to deal with people's essential
services. *That is a slippery slope that invariably ends with people dying.

I am neutral on Mr. Obama, but I have seen nothing indicating that he
plans to tell anyone how to live. *It is quite a stretch to equate me
stating that disasters are made worse by inaction, to a desire to
micromanage strangers' lives.

People who overpay their taxes all year and then get refunds are morons.

- I will cut the state a check, like I do every year.

For many Californians Claiming one or more extra
Tax Deductions to Zero-Out their CY2009 {2010}
Tax Refund will be the first thing they do when they
get their CA State "IOU" : Result the CA State
Weekly Cash-In-Flow will be Cut by ~12% and
California will be even more Cash Strapped.

NOTE - For many of the Low-Income-Poor in the
State of California who benefited by the States
Negative Income Tax : Paid $500 in CA Income
Taxes and Get Paid $1500 in CA Tax Refund :
The CA State IOUs will be a real cash crunch
for them.

FWIW - The California Negative Income Tax
is a 'classic' Wealth Redistribution System.
Over Taxing High Income Earners and Giving
Extra {Additional} Tax Moneys Back to the
Low-Income-Poor {Non-Tax Payers}.

real smart thinking der govenator ~ RHF

-*Do you enjoy loaning money (interest free)
- to your hero Arnold?

NO ! - Try to keep it Zero-Out within +or--$99.

dave February 7th 09 05:19 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate Shit-HoleCountry Nowadays
 
RHF wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:57 pm, dave wrote:



- We are a mediocre second-rate ******** country nowadays.

Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate
****-Hole Country Nowadays.

Dave - I am sure that President Obama enjoys
your support of his Leadership. ~ RHF
.

Not as much as I enjoy your loyalty to the radicals.

Telamon February 7th 09 07:09 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.


That is absurd on its face


So the way businesses operate is absurd then.

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.


I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required


What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.


I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave February 7th 09 07:48 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.

That is absurd on its face


So the way businesses operate is absurd then.


From your lips to God's ears.

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.

I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required


What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?


The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.


I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. It is very accurate.

Telamon February 7th 09 08:13 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.
That is absurd on its face


So the way businesses operate is absurd then.


From your lips to God's ears.


More from my post than lips but, pray tell, what would you advocate in
the place of rational thought?

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.
I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required


What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?


The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.


I made larger retirement contributions than I originally expected to
make due to the stock market crashing as I elected not to invest last
year. If I don't get my refund in a reasonable amount of time from the
state and Fed's I will decease my withholding accordingly.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.


I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. It is very accurate.


They are not human and they make mistakes. They don't care about you.
The mistakes are usually omissions so the IRS will not care either. You
go to these people to have your taxes done and you end up paying more
then you should. Not so smart.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave February 7th 09 09:04 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.
That is absurd on its face
So the way businesses operate is absurd then.

From your lips to God's ears.


More from my post than lips but, pray tell, what would you advocate in
the place of rational thought?

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.
I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required
What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?

The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.


I made larger retirement contributions than I originally expected to
make due to the stock market crashing as I elected not to invest last
year. If I don't get my refund in a reasonable amount of time from the
state and Fed's I will decease my withholding accordingly.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. Way more accurate than a human.
I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.

HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. It is very accurate.


They are not human and they make mistakes. They don't care about you.
The mistakes are usually omissions so the IRS will not care either. You
go to these people to have your taxes done and you end up paying more
then you should. Not so smart.

Including efile it's under a $100. I have used tax guys in the past.

David Eduardo[_4_] February 7th 09 10:13 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:


Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree
needed in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't prepare
for everything.

Why would they protest?


The degree of trimming needed to protect against every contingency would
leave little more than the trunk.

Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.


No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.


How many people freezing to death is acceptable in your twisted world?


You can spend trillions, and you can't stop full trees from falling over or
tornados from hitting mobile homes.


RHF February 7th 09 10:23 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate Shit-HoleCountry Nowadays
 
On Feb 7, 9:19*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:57 pm, dave wrote:


- - - We are a mediocre second-rate ******** country nowadays.

- - Dave -proclaims- - We Are A Mediocre Second-Rate
- - ****-Hole Country Nowadays.

- - Dave - I am sure that President Obama enjoys
- - your support of his Leadership. ~ RHF

- Not as much as I enjoy your loyalty to the radicals.

? Radicals ?

Telamon February 8th 09 12:34 AM

(OT) : Lying To Your DIY Tax Software - Now That's Stupid
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Feb 7, 12:13*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,

*dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
*dave wrote:


Telamon wrote:


Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and
effort.
That is absurd on its face


So the way businesses operate is absurd then.


*From your lips to God's ears.


More from my post than lips but, pray tell, what would you advocate in
the place of rational thought?

If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will
be
paying another assessment.
I didn't say a minimal amount of skill wasn't required


What skill would that be? Keep moving so they don't catch up with you?


The skill is keeping your liability below the trigger level for
penalties. *I cut a check for a couple hundred bucks.


I made larger retirement contributions than I originally expected to
make due to the stock market crashing as I elected not to invest last
year. If I don't get my refund in a reasonable amount of time from the
state and Fed's I will decease my withholding accordingly.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but
things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his
fee
this year.


I use HR Block Tak Cut Premium. *Way more accurate than a human.


I deal directly with a human being, a friend actually, instead of some
corporate entity like H&R Block.


HR Block Tax Cut is a computer program. *It is very accurate.


They are not human and they make mistakes. They don't care about you.
The mistakes are usually omissions so the IRS will not care either. You
go to these people to have your taxes done and you end up paying more
then you should. Not so smart.


Many/Most Tax Preparers use some sort of
Tax Softwave as a Guide or as an Aid during


SNIP

I use a professional accountant that reads the tax code and prepares my
return tailored to my unique situation. My returns are computerized and
my refund is automatically deposited in my account. I'm not going to
some large business to be treated like a number and have my taxes
prepared in a way that follows some formula that covers a lot of other
people. Screw that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave February 8th 09 01:14 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message



How many people freezing to death is acceptable in your twisted world?


You can spend trillions, and you can't stop full trees from falling over
or tornados from hitting mobile homes.


Thanks for the absurd reply.

dave February 8th 09 01:18 AM

(OT) : Lying To Your DIY Tax Software - Now That's Stupid
 
RHF wrote:

.
"Turbo Tax" by INTUIT [In-Tu-It]


I believe it's actually "into it"


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