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Telamon February 6th 09 11:48 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave wrote:
The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.

http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp

The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.

Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
trees.

Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of his
behind.


Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power failures?


You are not thinking this through.



On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.


No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.

You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon February 6th 09 11:54 PM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
m...

Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
failures?

You are not thinking this through.


On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.


Most utilities are privately owned... and we are talking millions and
millions of trees. Were they all to be trimmed, electric rates would
increase.

Spoken like the true oinker that you are. If privately held utilities
can't maintain their plant they should be taken over by cooperatives or
some such who will. I'll bet you the rates are going to go up more from
this neglect than they would have from paying for proper right-of-way
maintenance. Splicing power lines every 50 feet costs money too.

One good thing about Mr. Obama is his oft stated motto: Yes we can.


And what a motto it is.
Yes we can what?
Make things worse that they are now?
Screwup every time you try to do something useful?
Repeat actions over and over because you screwed up?
Appoint tax cheats to run the treasury?
Have government spend more money putting a further load on the economy?
Be the big eared idiot of the USA? Sure thing.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon February 7th 09 12:03 AM

Underground Electrical Wiring Won't Prevent Ice Storm Damage
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

ASCII wrote:

dxAce wrote:
I am retired due to disability, boy!


Finessing a loophole in some bleeding heart charity program,
then chronic postings here with super conservative comments
is more than a little hypocritical, maybe even dishonest?


Well, I guess if Social Security is some "bleeding heart charity program" then
so be it.

But, I certainly don't ever, ever, want to hear that you're collecting due to
some unfortunate happenstance that you encounter, boy!

Better that your sorry ass just be placed on the ice flow, and you be sent out
to sea to die!


You paid for social security your whole working life. If you were an
employee during that time your employer paid as much into SS as you did.
People that work for themselves pay twice as much as employees do.

You don't live off anyone until you collect more money then you and your
past employers have put in the fund. Once you have collected more than
you put in it becomes a Ponzi scheme. Thank congress for that
development and stealing from your retirement.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon February 7th 09 12:21 AM

Underground Electrical Wiring Won't Prevent Ice Storm Damage
 
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Feb 6, 10:39*am, dxAce wrote:
Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
from DXLD without credit.


Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.




But, as you've personally documented, I am a college professor and I
did do my doctorate work at Wayne State. That makes me far more of a
productive member of society as opposed to you!


SNIP

I don't know about that. A Ph. D is the highest doctorate a person can
normally attain. A person that knows practically all about some subject
to the point that he writes articles and books to further learning about
that subject increasing knowledge among fellow men. He is usually
pushing the boundaries of that subject producing original work.

The path is bachelors, masters, more advanced courses, then a published
dissertation or thesis under the guidance of a sponsor. Once the
published original work is reviewed and accepted by peers in that field
then a Ph.D. is awarded by the university where the work was done.

So where is your thesis?
Who was your sponsor?
What have you published since then?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon February 7th 09 12:26 AM

(OT) : MWB -defines- "Productive Member of Society" for us les...
 
In article ,
wrote:

A lot of thingys we take for granted at the food stores originated from
Piggly Wiggly Memphis,Tennessee.There are some Piggly Wiggly food stores
around here.I like Piggly Wiggly stores.There are more than 600 Piggly
Wiggly stores in 17 states.

On the web, History of Piggly Wiggly Stores.

Today seems like Saturday to me.


It is Saturday for me this weekend. Two for the price of one.

What is in the grocery stories around here did not originate at Piggly
Wiggly in Memphis, Tennessee.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon February 7th 09 12:30 AM

(OT) : MWB -defines- "Productive Member of Society" for us lesser beings
 
In article ,
dxAce wrote:

dxAce wrote:

RHF wrote:

On Feb 6, 8:03 am, Mike wrote:
On Feb 6, 10:39 am, dxAce wrote:

Michael W. "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

Keep yapping, little dog. Don't forget to keep re-posting material
from DXLD without credit.

Without credit? Isn't that what happened to your "PhD" at Wayne State?

No credit!

LMFAO at the PhDufus from Louisville Technical Institute.

- But, as you've personally documented,
- I am a college professor and I did do my
- doctorate work at Wayne State.
- That makes me far more of a productive member
- of society as opposed to you!

MWB,

So the 'measure' of someones "productive
member of society" rests on going to college
and being a college teacher ?


In Bryant's world, being "productive" rests upon ones ability to lie about a
non-existent PhD!


And, that drug bust whilst he was a Weber State!


That was his cannabis fieldwork for his dissertation.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave February 7th 09 12:56 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
m...

Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
failures?

You are not thinking this through.


On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.

Most utilities are privately owned... and we are talking millions and
millions of trees. Were they all to be trimmed, electric rates would
increase.


Spoken like the true oinker that you are. If privately held utilities
can't maintain their plant they should be taken over by cooperatives
or some such who will.


Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree
needed in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't prepare
for everything.


Why would they protest? Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.

dave February 7th 09 01:01 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
Telamon wrote:


No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.

You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.

Like I said, I was in Houston for a Category 3 Hurricane. The splices
are still on the wires, from where the un-maintained trees shredded
them. They have since been very proactive regarding preventative
maintenance of right-of-way encroachment.

joe February 7th 09 01:04 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message

...
On Feb 5, 8:05 am, dave wrote:
The widespread power outages could have been less severe with a little
right-of-way maintenance. If you'd quit voting against taxes maybe you
wouldn't be freezing in the dark right now.

http://www.georgiapower.com/community/treepruning.asp

The "disaster" was foreseen and you chose to do nothing.

Dorkus Maximus has spoken!

Pruning trees in KY is much more expensive than pruning palm trees in
Los Angeles. Even with tax increases state and municipal gov't are
facing billions in cutbacks due to the worsening economy. Forgive us
if we put more emphasis on saving our school system than in pruning
trees.

Armchair quarterbacks always have the answer.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Having been thru several up here in MN, Dave is indeed talking out of
his behind.


Sure, sure. Are you saying trees are not the #1 cause of power
failures?


You are not thinking this through.



On the contrary, My point is people need work and there's work that
needs to be done.



Your point started with confusing the paying of taxes with work that is the
responsibility of the utilities.

You also seem to think the utilities don't know the cost/benefits of buried
lines.

The cost to bury lines would be borne by all the customers. Do you have any
clue what this would cost? Do you have any idea how it compares to the cost
of repairing overhead lines?

Do you have any indication that the trees were NOT trimmed according to
standards/guidelines or specifications?

To eliminate trees as an issue would probably removing, not trimming, any
tree within 40-50 feet of the power lines.

You also don't seem to realize that the recent storm was not typical.

Finally, when nobody agrees with your points, you bring up unemployment as
your point. Would you equip 600000 people with chainsaws to trim trees?

Telemon is right, you need to think about what you are posting.


dave February 7th 09 01:11 AM

Missing the point? I think not. Kentucky "disaster" man-made
 
joe wrote:

Finally, when nobody agrees with your points, you bring up unemployment as
your point. Would you equip 600000 people with chainsaws to trim trees?

Telemon is right, you need to think about what you are posting.


How do you know "nobody agrees with my points"?

I posted a link to Georgia Power backing-up everything I've said here
about the benefits of tree maintenance. Georgia and Kentucky have
similar physical attributes.

Lastly, this is a usenet bulletin board. It is not a deliberative body
with any power whatsoever. What I say don't matter one iota.



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