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Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down
insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. |
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On Mar 13, 7:41*am, BCBlazysusan wrote:
Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. OK, I watched the video and I have to say, "Nobody does conspiracy explanations quite as well as does Alex Jones!" The video is a very interesting combination of celebrity testimony, obvious facts, and innuendo. In the end, the video is asking us to believe that Bush and Obama are part of a conspiracy to deliberately destroy the US economy, so that our rights can be stripped away and we can pushed into a one- world government. Overall, I think Jones has thought of an angle that might raise concern for a majority of Americans. If you combine the percentages of Americans who detest BOTH Bush and Obama, you start looking at a pretty significant percentage of the population. The story told in the video has just enough truth to it probably generate pangs of concern in almost everyone watching it. Do I buy it? Probably not. First, Jones' record with conspiracies makes me realize that his accuracy level is not overwhelming. You might even call his accuracy level pitiful. Secondly, I do not believe that there is an intentional conspiracy involving both Bush and Obama. But after watching the video, I am left with the impression that no matter who the President turns out to be, we can expect similar approaches to be taken. I don't think the purpose is to guide us to one-world gov't. I do think that the sources of power in our society (read: financial and political institutions) control interpretation of social reality by controlling the flow of information upon which decisions are made. I believe those interests have promoted there own accumulation of wealth and support policies that they feel will protect and maximize that wealth and power. To those ends, I think the interests will seek to restrict the public's ability to disagree with the info, I believe those interests will continue to promote free trade and international cooperation because it makes the interests more wealth and power. The real problem is that free trade and int'l cooperation can be good, but if taken too far can be very bad. You can't really say that free trade and int'l coop are Democratic or Republican policies. Both parties support these concepts. Is it a conspiracy? Only for those that will allow their paranoia to be manipulated by Alex Jones. But anyone that thinks Obama is the Messiah and will solve all our problems is as probably deluded as Jones seems to be. Anyone in the position of being President will be coopted by the institutional powers that control the information on which decisions are based. Yes, already those forces seem to be resulting in a steady move by Obama back to the center and, perhaps, even to the right. Still, I'm willing to give Obama more of an opportunity. We tried eight years of Republicanism with Bush, and I think Americans have sent a clear signal that they want to try a different approach. Obama is unlikely to be able to make too many changes, but maybe that's good. Reagan was a good President not because of his policies, but because people felt they could trust him. Likewise, Obama's success will likely not be reliant on his policy visions, but on whether Americans can learn to trust him. That's the biggest thing that could be done to restore economic and political confidence. Rooting for Obama's failure is rooting for America's collapse. Overall, interesting video, but I don't trust Alex Jones. He is usually wrong, but that doesn't stop him. He just moves on to another conspiracy. Nice enough, Suzy? Mike PS: I have placed in a folder the exact wording that I predict dxAss (aka, Steve Lare) will use in his response to this post. Anyone care to place a wager on his exact wording? |
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"BCBlazysusan" wrote in message ... Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. If it's anything like "Bohemian Grove" no thanks. |
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On Mar 13, 9:09*am, Mike wrote:
Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I don't watch conspiracy nonsense. I watch factual history to peer into the future. Don't bother replying until after you have spend 6 hours watching this factual documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/hi/index.html as well as tonights ABC TV show http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=7067596 and have read a dozen economic books about the unequivical relationship between freedom and capitalism. Anything else you would have to say is simply good for a great laugh. |
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Michael W. Bryant, the dufus who once claimed to have a Phd, wrote: On Mar 13, 7:41 am, BCBlazysusan wrote: Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. [dufus drivel snipped] PS: I have placed in a folder the exact wording that I predict dxAss (aka, Steve Lare) will use in his response to this post. Anyone care to place a wager on his exact wording? A folder? That must be where somebody hid that PhD you once lied about having. P.S. You may now fabricate something about winning a wager! dxAce Michigan USA And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute. They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows, there may be more dufi there. |
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On Mar 13, 4:41*am, BCBlazysusan wrote:
Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. Fear of ObamaNomics© Destroyed to Valve of 100 Million American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts (IRAs, 401Ks & Roths) 1 - The Democrats Hate the Individual Freedom of American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts. and have planned to destroy them for years. 2 - The Democrats want to force All Americans to rely only on Social Security and become Totally Dependent on the US Government for Support giving the US Government {Democrats} complete Control over Individual Americans Financial Freedom. Until the pending Economic Collapse of the US Treasury due to the Foreign Capital Pull-out : Buy and Hold bankers boxes of 100CNY Chinese Notes or open-up a Chinese Bank Account in China Yuan {Renminbi} not US Dollars; along with buying and holding Gold and Silver. Within a year maybe three at most the US Dollar will be worth 5 to 10 Cents and the Yuan will be on Parity {equal} with the Dollar meaning a 600% to 700% Gain in the Yuan Bank Account Holdings. The Gold and Silver will show roughly an Equal Gain against the US Dollar too. The Euro will be BUST as well as the EU. On the good side Foreign Goods and Services will be too costly for Americans to buy with a 100 {old} US Dollar Chinese made Celphone costing 500 {new} US Dollars at Wal*Mart. Over the next Decade Jobs will becoming back to America in Factories Owned and Operated by Foreign Investors and Made-in-American will be the good 'cheaper' Products on the Shelf. Many most Illegal Mexican Invaders will be going back to Mexico as living there 'poor' will be easier than living in the USA 'poor'. it's a 'vision' thingee ~ RHF |
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On Mar 13, 11:37�pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , �Mike wrote: On Mar 13, 7:41�am, BCBlazysusan wrote: Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself.. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. OK, I watched the video and I have to say, "Nobody does conspiracy explanations quite as well as does Alex Jones!" The video is a very interesting combination of celebrity testimony, obvious facts, and innuendo. In the end, the video is asking us to believe that Bush and Obama are part of a conspiracy to deliberately destroy the US economy, so that our rights can be stripped away and we can pushed into a one- world government. Overall, I think Jones has thought of an angle that might raise concern for a majority of Americans. If you combine the percentages of Americans who detest BOTH Bush and Obama, you start looking at a pretty significant percentage of the population. The story told in the video has just enough truth to it probably generate pangs of concern in almost everyone watching it. Do I buy it? Probably not. First, Jones' record with conspiracies makes me realize that his accuracy level is not overwhelming. You might even call his accuracy level pitiful. Secondly, I do not believe that there is an intentional conspiracy involving both Bush and Obama. But after watching the video, I am left with the impression that no matter who the President turns out to be, we can expect similar approaches to be taken. I don't think the purpose is to guide us to one-world gov't. I do think that the sources of power in our society (read: financial and political institutions) control interpretation of social reality by controlling the flow of information upon which decisions are made. I believe those interests have promoted there own accumulation of wealth and support policies that they feel will protect and maximize that wealth and power. To those ends, I think the interests will seek to restrict the public's ability to disagree with the info, I believe those interests will continue to promote free trade and international cooperation because it makes the interests more wealth and power. The real problem is that free trade and int'l cooperation can be good, but if taken too far can be very bad. You can't really say that free trade and int'l coop are Democratic or Republican policies. Both parties support these concepts. Is it a conspiracy? Only for those that will allow their paranoia to be manipulated by Alex Jones. But anyone that thinks Obama is the Messiah and will solve all our problems is as probably deluded as Jones seems to be. Anyone in the position of being President will be coopted by the institutional powers that control the information on which decisions are based. Yes, already those forces seem to be resulting in a steady move by Obama back to the center and, perhaps, even to the right. Still, I'm willing to give Obama more of an opportunity. We tried eight years of Republicanism with Bush, and I think Americans have sent a clear signal that they want to try a different approach. Obama is unlikely to be able to make too many changes, but maybe that's good. Reagan was a good President not because of his policies, but because people felt they could trust him. Likewise, Obama's success will likely not be reliant on his policy visions, but on whether Americans can learn to trust him. That's the biggest thing that could be done to restore economic and political confidence. Rooting for Obama's failure is rooting for America's collapse. Overall, interesting video, but I don't trust Alex Jones. He is usually wrong, but that doesn't stop him. He just moves on to another conspiracy. Nice enough, Suzy? Mike PS: I have placed in a folder the exact wording that I predict dxAss (aka, Steve Lare) will use in his response to this post. Anyone care to place a wager on his exact wording? The film is not to be released for two days yet on 3/15/09. Where did you see it? -- Telamon Ventura, California- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It was on YouTube. In 12 pieces. |
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On Mar 14, 12:23�am, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Mar 13, 9:09�am, Mike wrote: On Mar 13, 7:41�am, BCBlazysusan wrote: Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself.. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. OK, I watched the video and I have to say, "Nobody does conspiracy explanations quite as well as does Alex Jones!" The video is a very interesting combination of celebrity testimony, obvious facts, and innuendo. In the end, the video is asking us to believe that Bush and Obama are part of a conspiracy to deliberately destroy the US economy, so that our rights can be stripped away and we can pushed into a one- world government. Overall, I think Jones has thought of an angle that might raise concern for a majority of Americans. If you combine the percentages of Americans who detest BOTH Bush and Obama, you start looking at a pretty significant percentage of the population. The story told in the video has just enough truth to it probably generate pangs of concern in almost everyone watching it. Do I buy it? Probably not. First, Jones' record with conspiracies makes me realize that his accuracy level is not overwhelming. You might even call his accuracy level pitiful. Secondly, I do not believe that there is an intentional conspiracy involving both Bush and Obama. But after watching the video, I am left with the impression that no matter who the President turns out to be, we can expect similar approaches to be taken. I don't think the purpose is to guide us to one-world gov't. I do think that the sources of power in our society (read: financial and political institutions) control interpretation of social reality by controlling the flow of information upon which decisions are made. I believe those interests have promoted there own accumulation of wealth and support policies that they feel will protect and maximize that wealth and power. To those ends, I think the interests will seek to restrict the public's ability to disagree with the info, I believe those interests will continue to promote free trade and international cooperation because it makes the interests more wealth and power. The real problem is that free trade and int'l cooperation can be good, but if taken too far can be very bad. You can't really say that free trade and int'l coop are Democratic or Republican policies. Both parties support these concepts. Is it a conspiracy? Only for those that will allow their paranoia to be manipulated by Alex Jones. But anyone that thinks Obama is the Messiah and will solve all our problems is as probably deluded as Jones seems to be. Anyone in the position of being President will be coopted by the institutional powers that control the information on which decisions are based. Yes, already those forces seem to be resulting in a steady move by Obama back to the center and, perhaps, even to the right. Still, I'm willing to give Obama more of an opportunity. We tried eight years of Republicanism with Bush, and I think Americans have sent a clear signal that they want to try a different approach. Obama is unlikely to be able to make too many changes, but maybe that's good. Reagan was a good President not because of his policies, but because people felt they could trust him. Likewise, Obama's success will likely not be reliant on his policy visions, but on whether Americans can learn to trust him. That's the biggest thing that could be done to restore economic and political confidence. Rooting for Obama's failure is rooting for America's collapse. Overall, interesting video, but I don't trust Alex Jones. He is usually wrong, but that doesn't stop him. He just moves on to another conspiracy. Nice enough, Suzy? Mike PS: I have placed in a folder the exact wording that I predict dxAss (aka, Steve Lare) will use in his response to this post. Anyone care to place a wager on his exact wording?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - See Mike, I was going to respond and breakdown your post and reply to each thing you said. But you called me suzy and then your ps thing talking about Steve has now with no doubt whatsoever cemented in my mind that you can't talk to you like a "normal" person. I tried. Everyone who read this thread saw I tried. You know my name isn't suzy, it is Gregg, but then when you saw my name for other groups you made a big deal of it. Can't have it both ways pal. You now (in my mind) are "excluded" from this conversation. What a trip and you are a "teacher".....wow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are sooo thin-skinned! I responded the way you wanted and you still don't have the guts to reply. You're pitiful, Suzy. I mean, after a;;, what am I supposed to call you, since you don't have the courage to use your real name? You are truly hopeless. |
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On Mar 14, 2:26�am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Mar 13, 4:41�am, BCBlazysusan wrote: Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. Fear of ObamaNomics� Destroyed to Valve of 100 Million American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts (IRAs, 401Ks & Roths) 1 - The Democrats Hate the Individual Freedom of American's Individual Retirement Savings Accounts. and have planned to destroy them for years. 2 - The Democrats want to force All Americans to rely only on Social Security and become Totally Dependent on the US Government for Support giving the US Government {Democrats} complete Control over Individual Americans Financial Freedom. Until the pending Economic Collapse of the US Treasury due to the Foreign Capital Pull-out : Buy and Hold bankers boxes of 100CNY Chinese Notes or open-up a Chinese Bank Account in China Yuan {Renminbi} not US Dollars; along with buying and holding Gold and Silver. Within a year maybe three at most the US Dollar will be worth 5 to 10 Cents and the Yuan will be on Parity {equal} with the Dollar meaning a 600% to 700% Gain in the Yuan Bank Account Holdings. The Gold and Silver will show roughly an Equal Gain against the US Dollar too. The Euro will be BUST as well as the EU. On the good side Foreign Goods and Services will be too costly for Americans to buy with a 100 {old} US Dollar Chinese made Celphone costing 500 {new} US Dollars at Wal*Mart. Over the next Decade Jobs will becoming back to America in Factories Owned and Operated by Foreign Investors and Made-in-American will be the good 'cheaper' Products on the Shelf. Many most Illegal Mexican Invaders will be going back to Mexico as living there 'poor' will be easier than living in the USA 'poor'. it's a 'vision' thingee ~ RHF �. �.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - RHf, So Obama laid his economic vision to Congress on Tuesday and the market went up the last four days. I think you are ignoring REALITY when you claim that every time Obama opens his mouth the market goes lower. RHF, you're rooting for economic collapse. |
OT Has anyone watched the new video
Michael W. Bryant, the dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, wrote: On Mar 14, 12:23�am, Bushcraftgregg wrote: On Mar 13, 9:09�am, Mike wrote: On Mar 13, 7:41�am, BCBlazysusan wrote: Before I start, I hope this doesn't turn into another knock down insult everyone thread because that isn't what I want. I have heard about the new video by Alex Jones called "The Obama Deception." And before everyone starts typing their insults, the video isn't just a tear down on Obama, which I was somewhat surprised. MUCH of it also centers around former president Bush, I'll tell you, the one thing I like about Alex is all he does is gather the information. He even tells people on his show and I think also on this video to "not just believe him".....to actually take the info that he stated and google it. When it comes to all these presidential things and bills and laws that are signed under the cloak of darkness and no one even really knows what their about, you can look them up yourself. I will say this much, every time Alex has mentioned something on his show or on his website....I always checked it out, and he hasn't bullcrapped once. The video is 1hr 53 minutes long but it is well worth the time for the amount of information and knowledge and facts that can't be disputed that you will obtain. One thing I think within twenty minutes...it is when they are talking to the former governor Jesse Ventura. Call me crazy but I always thought and believed in the "democrats vs. republicans"....and so did/does everyone else in here because we all have jumped into or started threads on Bush or Obama or Dems or Republicans. Jesse says "it is like professional wrestling"....it is all staged...it is an act...lol. Remember back right before the election and a few jumped on me when I said I believed that "if voting 'truly' made a difference, the government would outlaw it." Well, I thought I was right in saying that and I was. It isn't about Democrats and Republicans or Bush/Clinton or even Obama, that is what they want everyone to think. Please try to not respond if you haven't watched it and just start bickering. I'd really like to know what SC/Telamon/RHF/Brenda Ann/Ace/BDK even Mike if he can be halfway decent (only if you watched it) and everyone else in here says but you can't really respond to a post about a video if you never watched it. Trust me when I say it isn't just a tear down on Obama himself. The majority of us in here are Americans (I think) and even I have been guilty of ripping on Obama and the democrats, I will look at it all a lot different from now on. Out of all us Americans in here I think Brenda Ann may be the smartest one for not actually living in the states. ;-) It's going to get bad guys, really bad, worse than anything most of us have experienced. If I didn't name your name I apologize, I can't remember everyones off the top of my head but I am really curious as to what you all think AFTER you watch the video. It should make for some good OT discussion.:-) I wonder if it can be civil and if not who is going to be the one that starts the crap. Just go to youtube or google video and type in "Obama Deception"...on youtube it comes in twelve parts and to me it was easier just to watch them all together in one shot on google video. Looking forward to the responses. OK, I watched the video and I have to say, "Nobody does conspiracy explanations quite as well as does Alex Jones!" The video is a very interesting combination of celebrity testimony, obvious facts, and innuendo. In the end, the video is asking us to believe that Bush and Obama are part of a conspiracy to deliberately destroy the US economy, so that our rights can be stripped away and we can pushed into a one- world government. Overall, I think Jones has thought of an angle that might raise concern for a majority of Americans. If you combine the percentages of Americans who detest BOTH Bush and Obama, you start looking at a pretty significant percentage of the population. The story told in the video has just enough truth to it probably generate pangs of concern in almost everyone watching it. Do I buy it? Probably not. First, Jones' record with conspiracies makes me realize that his accuracy level is not overwhelming. You might even call his accuracy level pitiful. Secondly, I do not believe that there is an intentional conspiracy involving both Bush and Obama. But after watching the video, I am left with the impression that no matter who the President turns out to be, we can expect similar approaches to be taken. I don't think the purpose is to guide us to one-world gov't. I do think that the sources of power in our society (read: financial and political institutions) control interpretation of social reality by controlling the flow of information upon which decisions are made. I believe those interests have promoted there own accumulation of wealth and support policies that they feel will protect and maximize that wealth and power. To those ends, I think the interests will seek to restrict the public's ability to disagree with the info, I believe those interests will continue to promote free trade and international cooperation because it makes the interests more wealth and power. The real problem is that free trade and int'l cooperation can be good, but if taken too far can be very bad. You can't really say that free trade and int'l coop are Democratic or Republican policies. Both parties support these concepts. Is it a conspiracy? Only for those that will allow their paranoia to be manipulated by Alex Jones. But anyone that thinks Obama is the Messiah and will solve all our problems is as probably deluded as Jones seems to be. Anyone in the position of being President will be coopted by the institutional powers that control the information on which decisions are based. Yes, already those forces seem to be resulting in a steady move by Obama back to the center and, perhaps, even to the right. Still, I'm willing to give Obama more of an opportunity. We tried eight years of Republicanism with Bush, and I think Americans have sent a clear signal that they want to try a different approach. Obama is unlikely to be able to make too many changes, but maybe that's good. Reagan was a good President not because of his policies, but because people felt they could trust him. Likewise, Obama's success will likely not be reliant on his policy visions, but on whether Americans can learn to trust him. That's the biggest thing that could be done to restore economic and political confidence. Rooting for Obama's failure is rooting for America's collapse. Overall, interesting video, but I don't trust Alex Jones. He is usually wrong, but that doesn't stop him. He just moves on to another conspiracy. Nice enough, Suzy? Mike PS: I have placed in a folder the exact wording that I predict dxAss (aka, Steve Lare) will use in his response to this post. Anyone care to place a wager on his exact wording?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - See Mike, I was going to respond and breakdown your post and reply to each thing you said. But you called me suzy and then your ps thing talking about Steve has now with no doubt whatsoever cemented in my mind that you can't talk to you like a "normal" person. I tried. Everyone who read this thread saw I tried. You know my name isn't suzy, it is Gregg, but then when you saw my name for other groups you made a big deal of it. Can't have it both ways pal. You now (in my mind) are "excluded" from this conversation. What a trip and you are a "teacher".....wow.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are sooo thin-skinned! I responded the way you wanted and you still don't have the guts to reply. You're pitiful, Suzy. I mean, after a;;, what am I supposed to call you, since you don't have the courage to use your real name? You are truly hopeless. Hopeless? You mean hopeless like a 'tard boy dufus who lied about having a PhD? Now that's hopeless! dxAce Michigan USA And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute. They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows, there may be more dufi there. |
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