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PocketRadio May 3rd 09 06:51 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
On May 2, 10:35�pm, Telamon
wrote:
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�dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
�dave wrote:


Good. �They selectively fade a lot. �Now I can use the sync detector on
my SW2.


Where did you get this news?


I complained to them about their signal sounding really bad at night
when the phase cancelations occurred and the hiss in general anytime day
or night.


I can see it is off right now at 6:13 PM PT. Is it off day and night now
or just night time?


I got the news by tuning-in and noticing I did not have to turn off my
Synchronous Sideband to make the wuba-wubba-wubba go away. �This was in
the day time.


That's great news Dave. Now I can listen to KFI in the evening again.
Hopefully the the IBOC will stay off.

In the car in the daytime if I traveled behind a large building,
hillside or any weak signal area that noise would show up. It was very
annoying.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

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Hopefully, another IBLOCKer off for good! Struble is a scam-artist!

Mike[_2_] May 4th 09 01:57 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
On May 3, 1:51�pm, PocketRadio wrote:
On May 2, 10:35 pm, Telamon





wrote:
In article ,


dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:


Good. They selectively fade a lot. Now I can use the sync detector on
my SW2.


Where did you get this news?


I complained to them about their signal sounding really bad at night
when the phase cancelations occurred and the hiss in general anytime day
or night.


I can see it is off right now at 6:13 PM PT. Is it off day and night now
or just night time?


I got the news by tuning-in and noticing I did not have to turn off my
Synchronous Sideband to make the wuba-wubba-wubba go away. This was in
the day time.


That's great news Dave. Now I can listen to KFI in the evening again.
Hopefully the the IBOC will stay off.


In the car in the daytime if I traveled behind a large building,
hillside or any weak signal area that noise would show up. It was very
annoying.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hopefully, another IBLOCKer off for good! Struble is a scam-artist!- Hide quoted text -

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As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.

Mike
Louisville, KY

PocketRadio May 4th 09 02:29 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
On May 3, 8:57�pm, Mike wrote:
On May 3, 1:51 pm, PocketRadio wrote:





On May 2, 10:35 pm, Telamon


wrote:
In article ,


dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:


Good. They selectively fade a lot. Now I can use the sync detector on
my SW2.


Where did you get this news?


I complained to them about their signal sounding really bad at night
when the phase cancelations occurred and the hiss in general anytime day
or night.


I can see it is off right now at 6:13 PM PT. Is it off day and night now
or just night time?


I got the news by tuning-in and noticing I did not have to turn off my
Synchronous Sideband to make the wuba-wubba-wubba go away. This was in
the day time.


That's great news Dave. Now I can listen to KFI in the evening again.
Hopefully the the IBOC will stay off.


In the car in the daytime if I traveled behind a large building,
hillside or any weak signal area that noise would show up. It was very
annoying.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Hopefully, another IBLOCKer off for good! Struble is a scam-artist!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.

Mike
Louisville, KY- Hide quoted text -

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Yup, they are starting to turn off both FM-HD and AM-HD, but I am sure
it will be gradual - far too embarrassng for the broadcasters that
bought into Struble's scam. An up-to-date AM-HD list:

http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html

To check the actual number of IBLOCK stations converted check here
(not the "near 2000 that Struble claims"):

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/digital/index.html

dave May 4th 09 04:25 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
Mike wrote:


As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.

Mike
Louisville, KY


I like Rick Barber. Apparently Clear Channel is joining Citadel and
stopping the madness at night.

David Eduardo[_4_] May 4th 09 06:33 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 

"dave" wrote in message
m...
Mike wrote:


As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.

Mike
Louisville, KY


I like Rick Barber. Apparently Clear Channel is joining Citadel and
stopping the madness at night.


Nope... just running on the aux transmitter due to some issues with the
main.


~ RHF May 4th 09 07:59 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
On May 3, 10:33*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

m...

Mike wrote:


As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.


Mike
Louisville, KY


I like Rick Barber. *Apparently Clear Channel is joining Citadel and
stopping the madness at night.


Nope... just running on the aux transmitter due to some issues with the
main.


Currently, there are 1,904 HD Radio Stations
broadcasting across the nation.

There are 172 HD-Radio Stations in California
broadcasting 256 HD Radio Channels, with 17
more coming soon.

-ps- That adds up to 84 more FM "HD2" Channels
on the FM Radio Band in California alone.

dave May 4th 09 01:55 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
m...
Mike wrote:


As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.

Mike
Louisville, KY


I like Rick Barber. Apparently Clear Channel is joining Citadel and
stopping the madness at night.


Nope... just running on the aux transmitter due to some issues with the
main.


WHAS? KFI? Both?

(btw, "nope" isn't really a word.)

dave May 4th 09 01:58 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
~ RHF wrote:
On May 3, 10:33 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

m...

Mike wrote:
As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.
Mike
Louisville, KY
I like Rick Barber. Apparently Clear Channel is joining Citadel and
stopping the madness at night.

Nope... just running on the aux transmitter due to some issues with the
main.


Currently, there are 1,904 HD Radio Stations
broadcasting across the nation.

There are 172 HD-Radio Stations in California
broadcasting 256 HD Radio Channels, with 17
more coming soon.

-ps- That adds up to 84 more FM "HD2" Channels
on the FM Radio Band in California alone.
.


And none of them work in the car.

Drifter May 4th 09 04:49 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
m...
Mike wrote:


As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.

Mike
Louisville, KY

I like Rick Barber. Apparently Clear Channel is joining Citadel and
stopping the madness at night.


Nope... just running on the aux transmitter due to some issues with
the main.


WHAS? KFI? Both?

(btw, "nope" isn't really a word.)


That's OK Dave. (Davy Eddies not a real person).

Drifter...

David Eduardo[_4_] May 4th 09 10:49 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...

If you check the FCC's database only 1,700+ have converted:

The FCC database is notoriously inaccurate. Since no permit is required to
commence HD broadcasts, some stations have failed to notify and other
notifications have not been processed or posted.



David Eduardo[_4_] May 4th 09 10:50 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...


Stations will tire of the yearly fees for HD channels to iBiquity,
with no possible ROI.

The fees are quite minimal, and with the possibility of the Zune having HD
(and it's effect on possible iPod enabled devices), there will be renewed
interest.


Telamon May 5th 09 03:47 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
In article ,
Drifter wrote:

dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
m...
Mike wrote:


As I was tuning the MW band on a couple of receivers last night, I
noticed far less IBOC hash across the bands. Most significantly, local
WHAS has it turned off, enabling clear reception of KOA and WCCO - two
of my favorites.

Mike
Louisville, KY

I like Rick Barber. Apparently Clear Channel is joining Citadel and
stopping the madness at night.

Nope... just running on the aux transmitter due to some issues with
the main.


WHAS? KFI? Both?

(btw, "nope" isn't really a word.)


That's OK Dave. (Davy Eddies not a real person).


That's a funny comment but he did appear real to me when I met him.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

PocketRadio May 5th 09 06:30 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
On May 4, 5:50�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...

Stations will tire of the yearly fees for HD channels to iBiquity,
with no possible ROI.

The fees are quite minimal, and with the possibility of the Zune having HD
(and it's effect on possible iPod enabled devices), there will be renewed
interest.


The Zune has only 4% of the MP3 market-place - LOL! Besides, the HD
chipsets still are way to power-hungry. What are they going to use for
antenas - the headphones - LOL! This is still rumor, probably fueled
by iBiquity and the HD Alliance.

PocketRadio May 6th 09 05:05 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
On May 4, 5:49�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...

If you check the FCC's database only 1,700+ have converted:

The FCC database is notoriously inaccurate. Since no permit is required to
commence HD broadcasts, some stations have failed to notify and other
notifications have not been processed or posted.


"Have 200 HD Radio stations gone missing?"

"The HD Radio camp is advertising that there are currently over 1,500
radio stations now broadcasting in HD (from its website, to press
releases as well as in various other promotions)... but yet only 1,300
have filed with the FCC."

http://tinyurl.com/3yl8ma

Right! Same problem since Oct. 2007 - LOL!

Telamon May 6th 09 05:17 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
In article
,
PocketRadio wrote:

On May 4, 5:49?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...

If you check the FCC's database only 1,700+ have converted:

The FCC database is notoriously inaccurate. Since no permit is required to
commence HD broadcasts, some stations have failed to notify and other
notifications have not been processed or posted.


"Have 200 HD Radio stations gone missing?"

"The HD Radio camp is advertising that there are currently over 1,500
radio stations now broadcasting in HD (from its website, to press
releases as well as in various other promotions)... but yet only 1,300
have filed with the FCC."

http://tinyurl.com/3yl8ma

Right! Same problem since Oct. 2007 - LOL!


I sure hope KFI keeps it off.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] May 6th 09 06:54 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I sure hope KFI keeps it off.


KFI has been having some problems with the new Nautel transmitter, and is
using the DX 50 instead; it's not HD equipped. The HD will be back when the
issues are resolved.


Telamon May 6th 09 07:44 AM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I sure hope KFI keeps it off.


KFI has been having some problems with the new Nautel transmitter, and is
using the DX 50 instead; it's not HD equipped. The HD will be back when the
issues are resolved.


I hope they don't turn the HD back on.

The signal level looks like it dropped a little.

Is the backup transmitter on the same antenna?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave May 6th 09 01:02 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...


I sure hope KFI keeps it off.


KFI has been having some problems with the new Nautel transmitter, and
is using the DX 50 instead; it's not HD equipped. The HD will be back
when the issues are resolved.


Clear Channel's West Coast flagship station has no competent engineering
staff? Jesus Gawd, theyve been ****ed-up for YEARS!!!

dave May 6th 09 01:04 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I sure hope KFI keeps it off.

KFI has been having some problems with the new Nautel transmitter, and is
using the DX 50 instead; it's not HD equipped. The HD will be back when the
issues are resolved.


I hope they don't turn the HD back on.

The signal level looks like it dropped a little.

Is the backup transmitter on the same antenna?


If it's an MW-50, it should be an "alternate main", and should be able
to be connected with the real tower.

David Eduardo[_4_] May 6th 09 02:15 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I sure hope KFI keeps it off.


KFI has been having some problems with the new Nautel transmitter, and is
using the DX 50 instead; it's not HD equipped. The HD will be back when
the issues are resolved.


Clear Channel's West Coast flagship station has no competent engineering
staff? Jesus Gawd, theyve been ****ed-up for YEARS!!!


New model transmitters often have design issues that only show up in the
field... it's possible part of it even had to go back to the Maritimes for
modification. Unless they issue a press release, which is unlikely for a
technical issue, we won't know exactly what is at the cause.

This is why stations have auxiliary transmitters and even, in the case of
KFI, auxiliary antennas.

Clear Channel's West Coast flagship station is KIIS, not KFI. It might even
be said that KIIS is the entire company's flagship station.


David Eduardo[_4_] May 6th 09 02:17 PM

KFI Turns IBOC Off!
 

"dave" wrote in message
m...
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
I sure hope KFI keeps it off.

KFI has been having some problems with the new Nautel transmitter, and
is using the DX 50 instead; it's not HD equipped. The HD will be back
when the issues are resolved.


I hope they don't turn the HD back on.

The signal level looks like it dropped a little.

Is the backup transmitter on the same antenna?


If it's an MW-50, it should be an "alternate main", and should be able to
be connected with the real tower.


It's a DX 50. Few of the 70's vintage MW series are in use any more,
thankfully. And the auxiliary runs, like the main, into the pseudo half wave
tower. Alternate main means it is used regularly, while an aux is a backup.
The DX 50 is definitely a backup to the Nautel.



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