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I don't get to the beaches anymore, but when I used to, I used to
tell them bikini babes,,, Alright now, that side is done.Turn over
and cook the other side.


That's my weekend job.

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I wouldn't live on, or near a beach for anything in the World.


I would not want to live inland like Dave does. I'll stick with the
beach.

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SNIP

Art ''Ohhhhh My Gawdddd'' Bell and George ''Afraid of Ouija Boards''
Noory are probally having Orgasms over that one


SNIP

Ouija Boards are something best left alone. I would not mess with one.

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"G.." wrote:

On May 28, 12:22*am, Telamon
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*"G.." wrote:
On May 23, 1:32*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
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*Graham wrote:


What are the *white *spotsshowing on the *sun.... are these *solar
flares ?
something *showing on this :-


http://www.bbso.njit.edu/Images/daily/images/kfull.jpg


but *image will change with time (22/5)


full set of images :-


http://www.n3kl.org/sun/


Very small sunspots where the field lines are not twisted much or very
strong. Look at the magnetogram where the redspotsare negative gauss
and the blue positive gauss.


http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/cur_mag_fe1.html


http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eit/ima..._full.gif-Hide
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Ok .. *can see the link in the *two images and the *field *lines


Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to *form for *this ?


Smallspotslike this are not going to have an effect.

Largerspotshave flares that generate X-rays, which strongly charge
particles in the atmosphere depending on the height above the earth
cause layers to have different dielectric constants, which in turn
refract the radio waves back to earth making long distance
communications possible.

Right now we have asungenerating a weak by comparison but steady
X-ray stream that is weakly charging the particles into ions in the
atmosphere so the daytime high frequency is not so good but night time
low band is very good with the mostly undisturbed earths magnetosphere.

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Ok .. wrong angle on the uv .. I was thinking that the 'wave
length' was shorter ..... white to dark ......so its not the actual
'spot' that genarates the x ray radiation .. but the 'flare or flux
lines' that appeare to come from and go back into the 'spot' ....
as per the magneto gram ......

final take ......try this

1. the 'flux' that is 'flowing' from +/- magnetic 'aeras' .. gives
off x-ray radiation .(how .. energy collapse.transform to xrays ..
'led' type of thing?) . the bigger the 'event' the bigger the x-ray
level .. so more spots = more x-rays = more layer inoisation

2 when the flow exceeds the 'magnetic' constraint and ruptures , this
releases what ever is in the flow ,particals, making a solar
'flare' .assume these are high energy particales .. which once
free .. do not collapse . which on arival proceedes to cause deeper
ioisation , over cooking the system .... no radio . power surges etc.


That sounds better ?

The "flare" is from matter in the sun escaping the surface into the
photosphere and beyond being accelerated and heated at a very high rate.

This is not a simple topic. You should go visit science web sites for a
complete theoretical explanation. Start here. After reading this page
you will learn a lot and then there are links to follow at the bottom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot

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Tookin me a leetle cig n coffee break right now, workin on my flower bed
on top of that old concrete septic tank in my front yard, after I hack
sawed that old truck frame into four (count em, four pieces) pieces a
few days ago and yesterday I hauled those pieces to The Can Man scrap
iron yard.

Ouija Boards are nothing but a silly game.One time George Noory said he
broke a Ouija Board into a bunch of little pieces and threw it into the
trash can.He said the next day, it reappeared all back together on a
shelf in one of his closets.

That is Rediculous beyond compare! Impossible!

I still wouldn't live on, or near a beach for anything in the World.
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A few articles about Solar Storms at www.standeyo.com/index1.html
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Telamon wrote:
In article ,
I. P. Yurin wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:25:42 -0700, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.
... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .
Sounds right to me.
Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.


I use good old "Roy G. Biv"* to remember it. (For those unfamiliar
with this mnemonic, "vide infra," -- pun intended.) So, we get...

infrared ("below" red) -- red (the "R" in Roy) -- other colors, in
order -- violet (the "V" in Biv) -- ultraviolet ("beyond" violet).

A little Latin and etymology goes a long way.

[* Roy G Biv == the order: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo,
Violet.]


Which is also mostly follows the resistor color code.

0 black
1 brown
2 red
3 orange
4 yellow
5 green
6 blue
7 indigo (purple)
8 gray
9 white

Violet gives willingly.
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Telamon wrote:
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I wouldn't live on, or near a beach for anything in the World.


I would not want to live inland like Dave does. I'll stick with the
beach.


That's because you don't think the sea level will rise. I enjoy being
1,780' AMSL. Gets me above tsunami and smog.
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Telamon wrote:
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SNIP

Art ''Ohhhhh My Gawdddd'' Bell and George ''Afraid of Ouija Boards''
Noory are probally having Orgasms over that one


SNIP

Ouija Boards are something best left alone. I would not mess with one.


Nonsense. Silly parlor game.
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It's those Hurricanes and crazy people on the beaches, is what it is.
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