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Telamon May 23rd 09 05:37 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article
,
Graham wrote:

What are the white spots showing on the sun .... are these solar
flares ?
something showing on this :-

http://www.bbso.njit.edu/Images/daily/images/kfull.jpg


but image will change with time (22/5)


full set of images :-


http://www.n3kl.org/sun/


Very small sunspots where the field lines are not twisted much or very
strong. Look at the magnetogram where the red spots are negative gauss
and the blue positive gauss.

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/cur_mag_fe1.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dave May 23rd 09 01:32 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
Graham wrote:

What are the white spots showing on the sun .... are these solar
flares ?
something showing on this :-

http://www.bbso.njit.edu/Images/daily/images/kfull.jpg


but image will change with time (22/5)


full set of images :-


http://www.n3kl.org/sun/


Very small sunspots where the field lines are not twisted much or very
strong. Look at the magnetogram where the red spots are negative gauss
and the blue positive gauss.

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/cur_mag_fe1.html


http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eit/ima...t_195_full.gif

[email protected] May 23rd 09 05:31 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
I already knew about the Neutrinos.They can't be seen directly.Scientist
use pure water and special equipment/devices to see the paths of
Neutrinos.In a nutshell, I think that is how it works.
cuhulin


dave May 27th 09 07:08 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .

We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.


... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .

Sounds right to me.

G.. May 27th 09 11:56 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
On May 23, 1:32*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
*Graham wrote:


What are the *white *spotsshowing on the *sun.... are these *solar
flares ?
something *showing on this :-


http://www.bbso.njit.edu/Images/daily/images/kfull.jpg


but *image will change with time (22/5)


full set of images :-


http://www.n3kl.org/sun/


Very small sunspots where the field lines are not twisted much or very
strong. Look at the magnetogram where the redspotsare negative gauss
and the blue positive gauss.


http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/cur_mag_fe1.html


http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eit/ima..._195_full.gif- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ok .. can see the link in the two images and the field lines

Q do these 'small spots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?

tnx- G .


dave May 27th 09 01:17 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
G.. wrote:


Q do these 'small spots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?

tnx- G .


We need UV from the Sun to charge the ionosphere.

[email protected] May 27th 09 01:54 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
That UV from the Sun is cooking those bikini babes on the beaches.
cuhulin


[email protected] May 27th 09 02:54 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Giant blob found deep beneath Nevada and Utah and some other States.
www.rense.com

tHat's where those Space Aliens and UFOs hang out.
cuhulin


G.. May 27th 09 08:09 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
On May 27, 1:17*pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to *form for *this ?


tnx- G .


We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.


... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .

Telamon May 28th 09 12:22 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article
,
"G.." wrote:

On May 23, 1:32*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
*Graham wrote:


What are the *white *spotsshowing on the *sun.... are these *solar
flares ?
something *showing on this :-


http://www.bbso.njit.edu/Images/daily/images/kfull.jpg


but *image will change with time (22/5)


full set of images :-


http://www.n3kl.org/sun/


Very small sunspots where the field lines are not twisted much or very
strong. Look at the magnetogram where the redspotsare negative gauss
and the blue positive gauss.


http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/cur_mag_fe1.html


http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eit/ima..._195_full.gif- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ok .. can see the link in the two images and the field lines

Q do these 'small spots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?


Small spots like this are not going to have an effect.

Larger spots have flares that generate X-rays, which strongly charge
particles in the atmosphere depending on the height above the earth
cause layers to have different dielectric constants, which in turn
refract the radio waves back to earth making long distance
communications possible.

Right now we have a sun generating a weak by comparison but steady
X-ray stream that is weakly charging the particles into ions in the
atmosphere so the daytime high frequency is not so good but night time
low band is very good with the mostly undisturbed earths magnetosphere.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 28th 09 12:25 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.


... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .

Sounds right to me.


Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

I. P. Yurin May 28th 09 03:29 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:25:42 -0700, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.

... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .

Sounds right to me.


Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.



I use good old "Roy G. Biv"* to remember it. (For those unfamiliar
with this mnemonic, "vide infra," -- pun intended.) So, we get...

infrared ("below" red) -- red (the "R" in Roy) -- other colors, in
order -- violet (the "V" in Biv) -- ultraviolet ("beyond" violet).

A little Latin and etymology goes a long way.

[* Roy G Biv == the order: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo,
Violet.]

--
Col. I. P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)

[email protected] May 28th 09 04:24 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
I don't get to the beaches anymore, but when I used to, I used to tell
them bikini babes,,,
Alright now, that side is done.Turn over and cook the other side.

I made two trips to The Can Man scrap iron yard today.That woman (I
reckon she is about my age) who works in the office is cute.I told a guy
waiting his turn to get paid his scrap iron money,,,
She is cute.He told her I said she is pretty.I said,,,
I better get away from here, she might be married and HE might be in
there!
cuhulin


dave May 28th 09 01:15 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.
... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .

Sounds right to me.


Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.


I was agreeing that sunspots are cooler regions.

dave May 28th 09 01:21 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
wrote:
I don't get to the beaches anymore,


Maybe there is a forgiving God after all...

[email protected] May 28th 09 03:56 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
I wouldn't live on, or near a beach for anything in the World.
cuhulin


[email protected] May 28th 09 05:02 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
New Tunguska Theory UFO Intervention.
www.rense.com

BullSh.t!
Art ''Ohhhhh My Gawdddd'' Bell and George ''Afraid of Ouija Boards''
Noory are probally having Orgasms over that one.Especially, George
''Betty Boop'' Noory.
I can just see their faces right now.
cuhulin


G.. May 28th 09 08:35 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
On May 28, 12:22*am, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





*"G.." wrote:
On May 23, 1:32*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
*Graham wrote:


What are the *white *spotsshowing on the *sun.... are these *solar
flares ?
something *showing on this :-


http://www.bbso.njit.edu/Images/daily/images/kfull.jpg


but *image will change with time (22/5)


full set of images :-


http://www.n3kl.org/sun/


Very small sunspots where the field lines are not twisted much or very
strong. Look at the magnetogram where the redspotsare negative gauss
and the blue positive gauss.


http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/cur_mag_fe1.html


http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eit/ima..._full.gif-Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Ok .. *can see the link in the *two images and the *field *lines


Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to *form for *this ?


Smallspotslike this are not going to have an effect.

Largerspotshave flares that generate X-rays, which strongly charge
particles in the atmosphere depending on the height above the earth
cause layers to have different dielectric constants, which in turn
refract the radio waves back to earth making long distance
communications possible.

Right now we have asungenerating a weak by comparison but steady
X-ray stream that is weakly charging the particles into ions in the
atmosphere so the daytime high frequency is not so good but night time
low band is very good with the mostly undisturbed earths magnetosphere.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ok .. wrong angle on the uv .. I was thinking that the 'wave
length' was shorter ..... white to dark ......so its not the actual
'spot' that genarates the x ray radiation .. but the 'flare or flux
lines' that appeare to come from and go back into the 'spot' ....
as per the magneto gram ......

final take ......try this

1. the 'flux' that is 'flowing' from +/- magnetic 'aeras' .. gives
off x-ray radiation .(how .. energy collapse.transform to xrays ..
'led' type of thing?) . the bigger the 'event' the bigger the x-ray
level .. so more spots = more x-rays = more layer inoisation

2 when the flow exceeds the 'magnetic' constraint and ruptures , this
releases what ever is in the flow ,particals, making a solar
'flare' .assume these are high energy particales .. which once
free .. do not collapse . which on arival proceedes to cause deeper
ioisation , over cooking the system .... no radio . power surges etc.


That sounds better ?

G ..





Telamon May 28th 09 09:04 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.
... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .
Sounds right to me.


Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.


I was agreeing that sunspots are cooler regions.


That's correct. The theory is that when the magnetic lines of force get
tangled at a spot on the suns surface it impedes the flow of material
from the inner sun to the surface causing the area to be cooler by about
1000 to 2000 degrees kelvin.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 28th 09 09:09 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article ,
I. P. Yurin wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:25:42 -0700, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.

... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .
Sounds right to me.


Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.



I use good old "Roy G. Biv"* to remember it. (For those unfamiliar
with this mnemonic, "vide infra," -- pun intended.) So, we get...

infrared ("below" red) -- red (the "R" in Roy) -- other colors, in
order -- violet (the "V" in Biv) -- ultraviolet ("beyond" violet).

A little Latin and etymology goes a long way.

[* Roy G Biv == the order: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo,
Violet.]


Which is also mostly follows the resistor color code.

0 black
1 brown
2 red
3 orange
4 yellow
5 green
6 blue
7 indigo (purple)
8 gray
9 white

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 28th 09 09:10 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article ,
wrote:

I don't get to the beaches anymore, but when I used to, I used to
tell them bikini babes,,, Alright now, that side is done.Turn over
and cook the other side.


That's my weekend job.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 28th 09 09:11 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article ,
wrote:

I wouldn't live on, or near a beach for anything in the World.


I would not want to live inland like Dave does. I'll stick with the
beach.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 28th 09 09:13 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article ,
wrote:

SNIP

Art ''Ohhhhh My Gawdddd'' Bell and George ''Afraid of Ouija Boards''
Noory are probally having Orgasms over that one


SNIP

Ouija Boards are something best left alone. I would not mess with one.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon May 28th 09 09:34 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
In article
,
"G.." wrote:

On May 28, 12:22*am, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





*"G.." wrote:
On May 23, 1:32*pm, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
*Graham wrote:


What are the *white *spotsshowing on the *sun.... are these *solar
flares ?
something *showing on this :-


http://www.bbso.njit.edu/Images/daily/images/kfull.jpg


but *image will change with time (22/5)


full set of images :-


http://www.n3kl.org/sun/


Very small sunspots where the field lines are not twisted much or very
strong. Look at the magnetogram where the redspotsare negative gauss
and the blue positive gauss.


http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/cur_mag_fe1.html


http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eit/ima..._full.gif-Hide
quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Ok .. *can see the link in the *two images and the *field *lines


Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to *form for *this ?


Smallspotslike this are not going to have an effect.

Largerspotshave flares that generate X-rays, which strongly charge
particles in the atmosphere depending on the height above the earth
cause layers to have different dielectric constants, which in turn
refract the radio waves back to earth making long distance
communications possible.

Right now we have asungenerating a weak by comparison but steady
X-ray stream that is weakly charging the particles into ions in the
atmosphere so the daytime high frequency is not so good but night time
low band is very good with the mostly undisturbed earths magnetosphere.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Ok .. wrong angle on the uv .. I was thinking that the 'wave
length' was shorter ..... white to dark ......so its not the actual
'spot' that genarates the x ray radiation .. but the 'flare or flux
lines' that appeare to come from and go back into the 'spot' ....
as per the magneto gram ......

final take ......try this

1. the 'flux' that is 'flowing' from +/- magnetic 'aeras' .. gives
off x-ray radiation .(how .. energy collapse.transform to xrays ..
'led' type of thing?) . the bigger the 'event' the bigger the x-ray
level .. so more spots = more x-rays = more layer inoisation

2 when the flow exceeds the 'magnetic' constraint and ruptures , this
releases what ever is in the flow ,particals, making a solar
'flare' .assume these are high energy particales .. which once
free .. do not collapse . which on arival proceedes to cause deeper
ioisation , over cooking the system .... no radio . power surges etc.


That sounds better ?

The "flare" is from matter in the sun escaping the surface into the
photosphere and beyond being accelerated and heated at a very high rate.

This is not a simple topic. You should go visit science web sites for a
complete theoretical explanation. Start here. After reading this page
you will learn a lot and then there are links to follow at the bottom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] May 28th 09 10:15 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Tookin me a leetle cig n coffee break right now, workin on my flower bed
on top of that old concrete septic tank in my front yard, after I hack
sawed that old truck frame into four (count em, four pieces) pieces a
few days ago and yesterday I hauled those pieces to The Can Man scrap
iron yard.

Ouija Boards are nothing but a silly game.One time George Noory said he
broke a Ouija Board into a bunch of little pieces and threw it into the
trash can.He said the next day, it reappeared all back together on a
shelf in one of his closets.

That is Rediculous beyond compare! Impossible!

I still wouldn't live on, or near a beach for anything in the World.
cuhulin


[email protected] May 29th 09 01:38 AM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
A few articles about Solar Storms at www.standeyo.com/index1.html
cuhulin


dave May 29th 09 01:41 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
I. P. Yurin wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:25:42 -0700, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.
... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .
Sounds right to me.
Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.


I use good old "Roy G. Biv"* to remember it. (For those unfamiliar
with this mnemonic, "vide infra," -- pun intended.) So, we get...

infrared ("below" red) -- red (the "R" in Roy) -- other colors, in
order -- violet (the "V" in Biv) -- ultraviolet ("beyond" violet).

A little Latin and etymology goes a long way.

[* Roy G Biv == the order: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo,
Violet.]


Which is also mostly follows the resistor color code.

0 black
1 brown
2 red
3 orange
4 yellow
5 green
6 blue
7 indigo (purple)
8 gray
9 white

Violet gives willingly.

dave May 29th 09 01:42 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

I wouldn't live on, or near a beach for anything in the World.


I would not want to live inland like Dave does. I'll stick with the
beach.


That's because you don't think the sea level will rise. I enjoy being
1,780' AMSL. Gets me above tsunami and smog.

dave May 29th 09 01:43 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

SNIP

Art ''Ohhhhh My Gawdddd'' Bell and George ''Afraid of Ouija Boards''
Noory are probally having Orgasms over that one


SNIP

Ouija Boards are something best left alone. I would not mess with one.


Nonsense. Silly parlor game.

[email protected] May 29th 09 02:35 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
It's those Hurricanes and crazy people on the beaches, is what it is.
cuhulin


[email protected] May 29th 09 02:52 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
Think about it,,,,, Ouija Board cars and trucks and airplanes, things
that go boom bust break.Over night, they magically reasemble themselves
just as good as factory brand spankin New!
cuhulin


John Barnard May 29th 09 09:24 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

SNIP

Art ''Ohhhhh My Gawdddd'' Bell and George ''Afraid of Ouija Boards''
Noory are probally having Orgasms over that one


SNIP

Ouija Boards are something best left alone. I would not mess with one.


Nonsense. Silly parlor game.

Except to the truly suggestible ....


I. P. Yurin May 29th 09 10:31 PM

What are the white spots showing on the sun
 
On Thu, 28 May 2009 13:09:01 -0700, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
I. P. Yurin wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 16:25:42 -0700, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

G.. wrote:
On May 27, 1:17 pm, dave wrote:
G.. wrote:

Q do these 'smallspots' infulence radio or is there a differant type
of spot that needs to form for this ?
tnx- G .
We need UV from theSunto charge the ionosphere.

... so .,sun spots are cooler ... so darker .. so wave lenght is
lower .. so give out more uv than normal

that sound right ?

G .
Sounds right to me.

Not quite right. UV is a higher frequency than visible light and X-ray
are a higher frequency than UV.

Low to high frequency is infra red (radiated heat), visible light, UV,
X-rays.



I use good old "Roy G. Biv"* to remember it. (For those unfamiliar
with this mnemonic, "vide infra," -- pun intended.) So, we get...

infrared ("below" red) -- red (the "R" in Roy) -- other colors, in
order -- violet (the "V" in Biv) -- ultraviolet ("beyond" violet).

A little Latin and etymology goes a long way.

[* Roy G Biv == the order: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo,
Violet.]


Which is also mostly follows the resistor color code.

0 black
1 brown
2 red
3 orange
4 yellow
5 green
6 blue
7 indigo (purple)
8 gray
9 white



When, as a wee lad, I first tackled trig., my dissolute uncle taught
me a wonderfully effective mnemonic for the sin, cos, and tan
relationships.

Since it is somewhat vulgar, I will refrain from repeating in here, as
I have seen complaints of a prudish nature about certain posts.
(Although I did not see the original "offensive" posts.)

Suffice it to say it concerned practitioners of the world's oldest
profession and the wares they had on offer.

I was taught it once and it has never once failed me.

--
Col. I. P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)


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