Hal Turner arrested
 

Internet and Short Wave Talk Host Arrested In NJ

Hal Turner
Internet radio host HAL TURNER -- accused of inciting Catholics to "take up
arms" and singling out two CONNECTICUT lawmakers and a state ethics official
on a website -- was taken into custody in NEW JERSEY late WEDNESDAY after
state Capitol police in CONNECTICUT obtained a warrant for his arrest. THE
HARTFORD COURANT writes, "TURNER, who has been identified as a white
supremacist and anti-Semite by several anti-racism groups, hosts an Internet
radio program with an associated blog. On TUESDAY, the blog included a post
that promised to release the home addresses of state Rep. MICHAEL LAWLOR,
state Sen. ANDREW MCDONALD and THOMAS JONES of the State Ethics Office.

"Mr. Turner's comments are above and beyond the threshold of free speech,"
Capitol Police Chief MICHAEL J. FALLON said in an e-mail announcing the
warrant. "He is inciting others through his website to commit acts of
violence and has created fear and alarm. He should be held accountable for
his conduct."

"The remarks on the blog were a reaction to the recent controversy over a
bill that would have changed the way the Roman Catholic Church is governed,
taking power away from church officials and turning it over to lay members.
It was pulled in mid-MARCH following an outcry from Catholics across the
state and questions about its constitutionality."

One part of the post read, "If any state attorney, police department or
court thinks they're going to get uppity with us about this; I suspect we
have enough bullets to put them down, too."

TURNER also allegedly said the following: "Physician LEROY CARHART of
OMAHA, NE wants to continue providing third-term abortions after the brazen
slaying of his friend and colleague GEORGE TILLER ... Gee, this is becoming
a 'target-rich environment!' ... I suspect someone has a bullet for this guy
too. I guess we'll just have to wait and see."

Hal Turner arrested
 

On Jun 4, 3:59*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
Internet and Short Wave Talk Host Arrested In NJ

Hal Turner
Internet radio host HAL TURNER -- accused of inciting Catholics to "take up
arms" and singling out two CONNECTICUT lawmakers and a state ethics official
on a website -- was taken into custody in NEW JERSEY late WEDNESDAY after
state Capitol police in CONNECTICUT obtained a warrant for his arrest. THE
HARTFORD COURANT writes, "TURNER, who has been identified as a white
supremacist and anti-Semite by several anti-racism groups, hosts an Internet
radio program with an associated blog. On TUESDAY, the blog included a post
that promised to release the home addresses of state Rep. MICHAEL LAWLOR,
state Sen. ANDREW MCDONALD and THOMAS JONES of the State Ethics Office.

"Mr. Turner's comments are above and beyond the threshold of free speech,"
Capitol Police Chief MICHAEL J. FALLON said in an e-mail announcing the
warrant. "He is inciting others through his website to commit acts of
violence and has created fear and alarm. He should be held accountable for
his conduct."

"The remarks on the blog were a reaction to the recent controversy over a
bill that would have changed the way the Roman Catholic Church is governed,
taking power away from church officials and turning it over to lay members.
It was pulled in mid-MARCH following an outcry from Catholics across the
state and questions about its constitutionality."

One part of the post read, "If any state attorney, police department or
court thinks they're going to get uppity with us about this; I suspect we
have enough bullets to put them down, too."

TURNER *also allegedly said the following: "Physician LEROY CARHART of
OMAHA, NE wants to continue providing third-term abortions after the brazen
slaying of his friend and colleague GEORGE TILLER ... Gee, this is becoming
a 'target-rich environment!' ... I suspect someone has a bullet for this guy
too. I guess we'll just have to wait and see."

You can only preach hate and violence so many
times before it catches up with you. ~ RHF

Hal Turner arrested
 

~ RHF wrote:

You can only preach hate and violence so many
times before it catches up with you. ~ RHF



Still looking over your shoulder, eh?






mike

Hal Turner arrested
 

And David Carradine was found dead in Thailand.I do NOT believe he
commited suicide.
cuhulin

Hal Turner arrested
 

What does the Holy Quran say about Iron ?

By Magdy Abd Al-Shafy



I know that my article is not related to this group ,but it might be
useful.

PLEASE read it.
The Holy Quran , the last revealed Holy book, carries within its holy
verses the evidence toits Divine source .Among the many mitacles that
the holy Quran contain is the scientific miracles , more than 1400
years ago ,
The Holy Quran gives scientific facts that have been discovered
already and now are scientifically established . When the Holy Quran
gives such facts it adds many dimensions to the question of faith in
God ; in addition to the faith dimension there is a spiritual
dimension that Only Moslems and reasonable non -moslems can feel . The
Holy Quran stands in the face of the atheism claims . The other Holy
books , being distorted and pregnant with scientific errors that may
feed sckepticism , are no longer able to face atheism . Atheism are
breeding and taking people away from the right path . The Holy Quran ,
being the most authenticated book , can be the challanger - No one can
believe that a book with such astounding scientific miracles that
revealed 1400 years ago can be man-mad . Such facts lead you to
believe in God and to believe that the Holy Quran is God’s book …it is
up to you to decide ………
Now to our scientific miracle
The Holy Quran ststes in one of its Holy verses that ( iron ) we send
down from high skies , i.e, it is not formed in the ground . That what
science has aleady discovered . Let’s read this short verse .
God says in the Holy Quran what means "And We sent down iron in which
there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…. (Surat al-
Hadid: 25)
Modern astronomical findings have disclosed that the ****l of iron
found in our world has come down from the giant stars in outer space.
The Holy Quran verse used The Arabic word " Anzlna " which could be
rendered " and we sent down " . Iron needs so high temperature to be
formed ;
Professor Armstrong works at NASA, otherwise known as the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration, where he is a well-known
scientist here. He was asked about Iron and how it was formed. He
explained how all the elements in the earth were formed.
He stated that the scientists have come only recently to discover the
relevant facts about that formation process. He said that the energy
of the early solar system was not sufficient to produce elemental
Iron. In calculating the energy required to form one atom of iron, it
was found to be about four times as much as the energy of the entire
solar system. In other words, the entire energy of the earth or the
moon or the planet Mars or any other planet is not sufficient to form
one new atom of iron, even the energy of the entire solar system is
not sufficient for that. That is why Professor Armstrong said that the
scientists believe that iron is an extraterrestrial that was sent to
earth and not formed therein.
Unlike most of ****ls , iron needs so high temperature to be formed .
such high temperature is found no where in our solar system .
"Nova" and "supernova.
Temperature in the Sun is inadequate for the formation of iron. The
sun has a surface temperature of 6,000 degrees Celsius, and a core
temperature of approximately 20 million degrees. Iron can only be
produced in much larger stars than the Sun, where the temperature
reaches a few hundred million degrees. When the amount of iron exceeds
a certain level in a star, the star can no longer accommodate it, and
it eventually explodes in what is called a "nova" or a "supernova."
These explosions make it possible for iron to be given off into space.

All this shows that iron did not form on the Earth, but was carried
from Supernovas, and was "sent down," as stated in the verse. It is
clear that this fact could not have been known in the 7th century,
when the Qur’an was revealed. Nevertheless, this fact is related in
the Qur’an, the Word of Allah, Who encompasses all things in His
infinite knowledge.
Science says that iron and other materials were attracted to the earh
when enetered the earth garvity field ; iron fell down on the earth as
if it were rain . the earth at that time was like ash , not completely
solid as it is now . Iron found its way deep to the core of the
earth .

And We sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has
many uses for mankind….
what is meant by ( and in which there lies great force and which has
many uses for mankind….
In his book Nature’s Destiny, the well-known microbiologist Michael
Denton
Of all the ls there is none more essential to life than iron. It is
the accumulation of iron in the center of a star which triggers a
supernova explosion and the subsequent scattering of the vital atoms
of life throughout the cosmos. It was the drawing by gravity of iron
atoms to the center of the primeval earth that generated the heat
which caused the initial chemical differentiation of the earth, the
outgassing of the early atmosphere, and ultimately the formation of
the hydrosphere. It is molten iron in the center of the earth which,
acting like a gigantic dynamo, generates the earth’s magnetic field,
which in turn creates the Van Allen radiation belts that shield the
earth’s surface from destructive high-energy-penetrating cosmic
radiation and preserve the crucial ozone layer from cosmic ray
destruction…
in this connection the Holy Quran , to show God’s blessings , in
another verse which implies anew scientific miracle says " And we have
made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from
the Signs which these things (point to)!( Al-Anbyaa :32 )
Without the iron atom, there would be no carbon-based life in the
cosmos; no supernovae, no heating of the primitive earth, no
atmosphere or hydrosphere. There would be no protective magnetic
field, no Van Allen radiation belts, no ozone layer, no l to make
hemoglobin [in human blood], no l to tame the reactivity of oxygen,
and no oxidative *bolism.
The intriguing and intimate relationship between life and iron,
between the red color of blood and the dying of some distant star, not
only indicates the relevance of this ls to biology but also the
biocentricity of the cosmos…
This account clearly indicates the importance of the iron atom. The
fact that particular attention is drawn to iron in the Qur’an also
emphasises the importance of the element. In addition, there is
another hidden truth in the Qur’an which draws attention to the
importance of iron: Surat al-Hadid 25, which refers to iron, contains
two rather interesting mathematical codes.
"Al- Hadid" is the 57th sura in the Qur’an. The abjad of the word "Al-
Hadid" in Arabic, when the numerological values of its letters are
added up, is also 57.
The numerological value of the word "hadid" alone is 26. And 26 is the
atomic number of iron.
Moreover, iron oxide particles were used in a cancer treatment in
recent months and positive developments were observed. A team led by
Dr. Andreas Jordan, at the world famous Charité Hospital in Germany,
succeeded in destroying cancer cells with this new technique developed
for the treatment of cancer-magnetic fluid hyperthermia (high
temperature magnetic liquid). As a result of this technique, first
performed on the 26-year-old Nikolaus H., no new cancer cells were
observed in the patient in the following three months.
This method of treatment can be summarised as follows:
1. A liquid containing iron oxide particles is injected into the
tumour by means of a special syringe. These particles spread
throughout the tumour cells. This liquid consists of thousands of
millions of particles, 1,000 times smaller than the red blood
corpuscles, of iron oxide in 1 cm3 that can easily flow through all
blood vessels.42
2. The patient is then placed in a machine with a powerful magnetic
field.
3. This magnetic field, applied externally, begins to set the iron
particles in the tumour in motion. During this time the temperature in
the tumour containing the iron oxide particles rises by up to 45
degrees.
In a few minutes the cancer cells, unable to protect themselves from
the heat, are either weakened or destroyed. The tumour may then be
completely eradicated with subsequent chemotherapy.43
In this treatment it is only the cancer cells that are affected by the
magnetic field, since only they contain the iron oxide particles. The
spread of this technique is a major development in the treatment of
this potentially lethal disease. In the treatment of such a widespread
disease as cancer, the use of the expression "iron in which there lies
great force and which has many uses for mankind" (Qur’an, 57:25) in
the Qur’an is particularly noteworthy. Indeed, in that verse, the
Qur’an may be indicating the benefits of iron for human health. (Allah
knows best.)



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Hal Turner arrested
 

On Jun 4, 11:25*pm, Telamon
wrote:

Sounds like Turner is going to get rich off of the lawsuit he will be
filling soon.


So, you think the 1st Amendment protects speech inciting people to
break the law? I'm beginning to believe that you have very little
understanding of constitutional law.

Again: Would you be interested in betting a radio on whether Hal
Turner wins a suit based on this arrest?

Put your prized possessions where your mouth is. Or maybe, would you
like to bet over posting? Loser promises to not post for at least one
month. I know that might be hard for RRS's number one poster, but give
it a thought.

Mike
Derby City

Hal Turner arrested
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Jun 4, 11:25 pm, Telamon
wrote:

Sounds like Turner is going to get rich off of the lawsuit he will be
filling soon.


So, you think the 1st Amendment protects speech inciting people to
break the law? I'm beginning to believe that you have very little
understanding of constitutional law.

Again: Would you be interested in betting a radio on whether Hal
Turner wins a suit based on this arrest?

Put your prized possessions where your mouth is. Or maybe, would you
like to bet over posting? Loser promises to not post for at least one
month. I know that might be hard for RRS's number one poster, but give
it a thought.

Mike
Derby City

With what Turner posted on his blog, he's got no chance of a suit of any
kind. He'll be lucky if he ever sees the streets again.

(OT) : "Kung Fu" Actor David Carradine Found Hanged in Thai HotelRoom
 

On Jun 4, 9:01*pm, Feenus Farnham wrote:
"~ RHF" wrote :



On Jun 4, 5:00*pm, wrote:

- And David Carradine was found dead in Thailand.
- I do NOT believe he commited suicide.
- cuhulin

"Kung Fu" Actor David Carradine
Found Hanged in Thai Hotel Room
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...5534TM20090605
While Suicide may be the possible cause
of his Death;
Murder is also equally another possible cause.
? Accident ? {Very Strange}
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...e5-2009jun05,0,
5358019.story

RIP Little Grasshopper - amen ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carradine
*.

Most likely a case of erotic self-strangulation gone wrong. At best, there
is a fine line between cumming and succumbing, and at age 72, those Shaolin
reflexes probably aren't what they used to be.

I've heard that Bangcock is a popular tourist destination for those wishing
to indulge in this pastime.

Feenus Farnham

RIP Little Grasshopper - amen ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_monkeys

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Michael W. Bryant, Derby City dufus, gambling addict, and former PhD, wrote:

On Jun 4, 11:25 pm, Telamon
wrote:

Sounds like Turner is going to get rich off of the lawsuit he will be
filling soon.

So, you think the 1st Amendment protects speech inciting people to
break the law? I'm beginning to believe that you have very little
understanding of constitutional law.

Again: Would you be interested in betting a radio on whether Hal
Turner wins a suit based on this arrest?

Put your prized possessions where your mouth is. Or maybe, would you
like to bet over posting? Loser promises to not post for at least one
month. I know that might be hard for RRS's number one poster, but give
it a thought.

Besides being a pathological liar, do you have a gambling addiction, dufus?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

Hal Turner arrested
 

On Jun 6, 3:29�am, Telamon
wrote:


Again, what law did Hal break? It is definitely poor form to threaten
someone publicly but it is not against the law.


Incitement to violence is one area where we do not free speech. Eugene
V. Debs served several years in prison in the early 1900's for
advocating that young men drafted into WW1 not show up for induction.
The myth that the Fist Amendment covers all speech is prevalent among
those who have never actually studied Constitutional Law. Other areas
not covered by the 1st A include libel, slander, release of national
secuirty info and conspiracy to committ a crime. You can suffer civil
and criminal penalties for speech in those areas.

You should actually study the Constitution before so blanketly
condemning how other people might interpret it.

Mike

Hal Turner arrested
 

Michael W. Bryant, the mentally disabled dufus who once claimed to have a PhD,
wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:29�am, Telamon
wrote:


Again, what law did Hal break? It is definitely poor form to threaten
someone publicly but it is not against the law.


Incitement to violence is one area where we do not free speech. Eugene
V. Debs served several years in prison in the early 1900's for
advocating that young men drafted into WW1 not show up for induction.
The myth that the Fist Amendment covers all speech is prevalent among
those who have never actually studied Constitutional Law. Other areas
not covered by the 1st A include libel, slander, release of national
secuirty info and conspiracy to committ a crime. You can suffer civil
and criminal penalties for speech in those areas.

You should actually study the Constitution before so blanketly
condemning how other people might interpret it.

You should have actually studied for that PhD, dufus!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

Hal Turner arrested
 

On Jun 6, 3:34�am, Telamon

That someone really stupid would be you.

Gee, dude, you're the one that doesn't seem to understand how the US
Constitution has been interpreted for over 200 years. I generally
think you are a pretty smart guy, but you were out to lunch on that
one. Look it up, Telly


You sure you don't want to wager one of those Drakes?

You want to bet a few thousand bucks?


No, I don't have a gambling problem, just a radio problem. I don't
think you really want to bet me several thousand on the notion that
prosecutors didn't know what they were doing when Turner was arrested.

Be man enough to admit when you're wrong.

Mike

Hal Turner arrested
 

Michael W. Bryant, the dufus who once claimed to have a PhD and now claims to be
disabled, wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:34�am, Telamon

That someone really stupid would be you.

Gee, dude, you're the one that doesn't seem to understand how the US
Constitution has been interpreted for over 200 years. I generally
think you are a pretty smart guy, but you were out to lunch on that
one. Look it up, Telly


You sure you don't want to wager one of those Drakes?

You want to bet a few thousand bucks?


No, I don't have a gambling problem, just a radio problem. I don't
think you really want to bet me several thousand on the notion that
prosecutors didn't know what they were doing when Turner was arrested.

Be man enough to admit when you're wrong.

Real men don't lie about having PhD's... only snivelling academic dufi.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

Hal Turner arrested
 

On Jun 6, 1:43�pm, dxAce wrote:

You should have actually studied for that PhD, dufus!


You're probably right, Steve. Just like you should've studied
investments before doing business with Huntington.


Mike

Hal Turner arrested
 

On Jun 6, 1:51�pm, dxAce wrote:


Real men don't lie about having PhD's... only snivelling academic dufi.


Real men hold jobs, Steve. That rules you out.

Mike

Hal Turner arrested
 

Michael W. Bryant, the dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, wrote:

On Jun 6, 1:43�pm, dxAce wrote:

You should have actually studied for that PhD, dufus!


You're probably right, Steve. Just like you should've studied
investments before doing business with Huntington.

Oh, I've certainly studied investments, dufus, which has absolutely nothing what
so ever to do with a dufus saying that they'd do one thing and then did just the
opposite!

Got it, dufus?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

Hal Turner arrested
 

Michael W. Bryant, the dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, wrote:

On Jun 6, 1:51�pm, dxAce wrote:


Real men don't lie about having PhD's... only snivelling academic dufi.


Real men hold jobs, Steve. That rules you out.

Well yeah, dufus, because unlike you, I am indeed disabled and I actually have
the paperwork from the VA and SS to prove it, boy!

And, I also get the checks every month, dufus!

You, you just lie about PhD's and being disabled!

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

Hal Turner arrested
 

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:29?am, Telamon
wrote:


Again, what law did Hal break? It is definitely poor form to threaten
someone publicly but it is not against the law.


Incitement to violence is one area where we do not free speech. Eugene
V. Debs served several years in prison in the early 1900's for
advocating that young men drafted into WW1 not show up for induction.
The myth that the Fist Amendment covers all speech is prevalent among
those who have never actually studied Constitutional Law. Other areas
not covered by the 1st A include libel, slander, release of national
secuirty info and conspiracy to committ a crime. You can suffer civil
and criminal penalties for speech in those areas.

You should actually study the Constitution before so blanketly
condemning how other people might interpret it.

Before you open your big mouth you should take your own advice. There
is a difference between criminal and civil law. This is not about a
civil suit where one can be sued for just about anything.

I should sue you for posting stupid and in general lowering the IQ of
the news group, which affects all that read it.

What Hal wrote on the web will have to be found as "Incitement to
violence" by the court. Speaking before a crowd that then commits
violent acts or property destruction is not the same thing as blogging
on the web. The court will need to find a violent act that directly ties
to Hal's page. I don't expect that to happen because as I have not heard
of any claim to that effect.

I doubt Hal has blogged any nonpublic national security information.

Spock has informed me that blogging about a conspiracy and then
committing one is at best incongruous. Try again Mikey.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Hal Turner arrested
 

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:34?am, Telamon

That someone really stupid would be you.

Gee, dude, you're the one that doesn't seem to understand how the US
Constitution has been interpreted for over 200 years. I generally
think you are a pretty smart guy, but you were out to lunch on that
one. Look it up, Telly

I think I understand it and my rights better than you do.

You sure you don't want to wager one of those Drakes?

You want to bet a few thousand bucks?


No, I don't have a gambling problem, just a radio problem. I don't
think you really want to bet me several thousand on the notion that
prosecutors didn't know what they were doing when Turner was arrested.

Several thousand bucks are what my Drakes' are worth.

Some prosecutors are incompetent.

Be man enough to admit when you're wrong.

When you admit that you are clueless.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Hal Turner arrested
 

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jun 6, 1:51?pm, dxAce wrote:


Real men don't lie about having PhD's... only snivelling academic dufi.


Real men hold jobs, Steve. That rules you out.

Real men have a clue, that rules you out Mikey.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Hal Turner arrested
 

On Jun 6, 3:34�pm, Telamon :

Before you open your big mouth you should take your own advice. There
is a difference between criminal and civil law. This is not about a
civil suit where one can be sued for just about anything.


1. The Debs case was a criminal case.
2. Release of classified info is a criminal penalty.
3. Courts have even said you can be criminally prosecuted for
screaming "fire" in a crowded theatre, particularly one that is not on
fire.


I should sue you for posting stupid and in general lowering the IQ of
the news group, which affects all that read it.

1. No explanation of what I said that was wrong.
2. Please mark the first one to embrace the ad hominem style of
debate.



What Hal wrote on the web will have to be found as "Incitement to
violence" by the court.

1. Keep up, Telamon. Hal called for someone's murder. Read the news,
dude.
2. Why wouldn't the court find a call to murder to be incitement?
3. This isn't just me. Law enforcement and prosecutors made the call.
I think they understand the law better than do you. Or I.


Speaking before a crowd that then commits
violent acts or property destruction is not the same thing as blogging
on the web. The court will need to find a violent act that directly ties
to Hal's page. I don't expect that to happen because as I have not heard
of any claim to that effect.


1. WRONG. The crime doesn't have to be committed or completed.
2. The legal standard is "with reckless disregard for public health
and/or safety". I guess we'll see what the jury decides.

I doubt Hal has blogged any nonpublic national security information.


Nope. But shows that there are criminal penalties against some forms
of speech.

Spock has informed me that blogging about a conspiracy and then
committing one is at best incongruous. Try again Mikey.


Telly, ask him what Captain Kirk's opinion is, OK? I can now see that
the discussion of legal issues with someone who has no knowledge of
how the Constitution has been interpreted is likely to devolve to
insults quickly. It's falls under incitement, unless law enforcement
has more info than what we're aware of.

Mike

Hal Turner arrested
 

What's the name of that outfit,,, Huntington Trust Company?

One more 2'' by 4'' by 6 feet long post in the ground and I will be done
with the posts sitchuwayshun.I might go to the Wal Mart Gestapo store
tomorrow and see what kind of bolts and nuts and flat washers they sell,
for the horizontal bump fence boards for my Don't drive on my damn yard!
fence.I think 1/4'' by 3 or 3 1/2 inch long will be about right,
maybe.After I get all of the nuts on the bolts, I am going to tack weld
them nuts real good.I don't want any CLINICALLY INSANE! democraps and
libs to spread the wealth of my stuff.
cuhulin

Hal Turner arrested
 

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:34?pm, Telamon :

Before you open your big mouth you should take your own advice. There
is a difference between criminal and civil law. This is not about a
civil suit where one can be sued for just about anything.


1. The Debs case was a criminal case.
2. Release of classified info is a criminal penalty.
3. Courts have even said you can be criminally prosecuted for
screaming "fire" in a crowded theatre, particularly one that is not on
fire.

Please note blogging on the web is not the same thing as being
physically present on the scene. Your quoted case is a stretch.

He didn't release classified information.

I should sue you for posting stupid and in general lowering the IQ of
the news group, which affects all that read it.

1. No explanation of what I said that was wrong.
2. Please mark the first one to embrace the ad hominem style of
debate.

Now you have your explanation.

What Hal wrote on the web will have to be found as "Incitement to
violence" by the court.

1. Keep up, Telamon. Hal called for someone's murder. Read the news,
dude.
2. Why wouldn't the court find a call to murder to be incitement?
3. This isn't just me. Law enforcement and prosecutors made the call.
I think they understand the law better than do you. Or I.


Speaking before a crowd that then commits
violent acts or property destruction is not the same thing as blogging
on the web. The court will need to find a violent act that directly ties
to Hal's page. I don't expect that to happen because as I have not heard
of any claim to that effect.


1. WRONG. The crime doesn't have to be committed or completed.
2. The legal standard is "with reckless disregard for public health
and/or safety". I guess we'll see what the jury decides.

Wrong, he was arrested for what he posted on his blog not conspiracy.

I doubt Hal has blogged any nonpublic national security information.


Nope. But shows that there are criminal penalties against some forms
of speech.

We will see what happens here. I for one hope he beats the charge.

Spock has informed me that blogging about a conspiracy and then
committing one is at best incongruous. Try again Mikey.


Telly, ask him what Captain Kirk's opinion is, OK? I can now see that
the discussion of legal issues with someone who has no knowledge of
how the Constitution has been interpreted is likely to devolve to
insults quickly.

Chill dude, it was a joke OK. I thought it was funny. My layman's
knowledge does not equate to no knowledge OK Mikey.

Captain Kirk says set phasers to stun and not hurt Mikey if it can be
avoided.

It's falls under incitement, unless law enforcement
has more info than what we're aware of.

An arrest is not proof of wrongdoing. We will see what happens in court.

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Telamon
Ventura, California