June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

A reminder to all that tomorrow is June 6, the 65th Anniversary of what author
Stephen E. Ambrose described as "The Climactic Battle of World War II."

Take a moment to remember those who hit the beaches, rode in gliders, parachuted
in, and all who provided support on that glorious morning.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

dxAce wrote:
A reminder to all that tomorrow is June 6, the 65th Anniversary of what author
Stephen E. Ambrose described as "The Climactic Battle of World War II."

Take a moment to remember those who hit the beaches, rode in gliders, parachuted
in, and all who provided support on that glorious morning.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

War is retarded.

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

On Jun 6, 9:38�am, dave wrote:


I don't doubt their courage. �I condemn the world for letting things get
� so ****ed-up that it was necessary to use violence to attempt to make
things better. �What the hell were these people thinking?


Duh, while I'm not fan of miltaristic colonialism, I hardly think that
we were responsible for Hitler. Hitler did break dozens of threaties
that were negotiated during the 1930's. Hitler was firbombing London.
Hitler had to be taken out. I don't condemn FDR for not seeking on-
going negotiations with either Hitler or Hirohito.

The best thing about climate change is that it may unite us around a
cause bigger than our egos.-

Uh, so would alien invasion or an impending asteroid impact. I sure
hope we don't have to wait for any of these things before we see a
little global unity.

Pacifism, carried to an extreme, can be a little silly.

Mike

Mike

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

Mike wrote:
On Jun 6, 9:38�am, dave wrote:

I don't doubt their courage. �I condemn the world for letting things get
� so ****ed-up that it was necessary to use violence to attempt to make
things better. �What the hell were these people thinking?


Duh, while I'm not fan of miltaristic colonialism, I hardly think that
we were responsible for Hitler. Hitler did break dozens of threaties
that were negotiated during the 1930's. Hitler was firbombing London.
Hitler had to be taken out. I don't condemn FDR for not seeking on-
going negotiations with either Hitler or Hirohito.

The best thing about climate change is that it may unite us around a
cause bigger than our egos.-

Uh, so would alien invasion or an impending asteroid impact. I sure
hope we don't have to wait for any of these things before we see a
little global unity.

Pacifism, carried to an extreme, can be a little silly.

Mike

Mike

Hitler was helped by very prominent Americans such as Henry Ford,
Charles Lindbergh and Prescott Bush. We all share in the ignonimity for
ignoring the plight of others until it got to be too late.

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

On Jun 6, 3:25�pm, dave wrote:


Hitler was helped by very prominent Americans such as Henry Ford,
Charles Lindbergh and Prescott Bush. �We all share in the ignonimity for
ignoring the plight of others until it got to be too late

Well, I'm tickled to see you report that. I've posted many times in
this newsgroup that historical analysis will suggest that right-wing
American industrialists, specifically including the ones you mention,
had far more to do with Hitler's rise than did any left-wing socialist
groups.

Why does that convey a responsibility for the violence of WW2 on OUR
backs? Am I accountable for the actions of Henry Ford?

Please don't disrespect the courage of these brave souls on this day.

Mike

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:25?pm, dave wrote:


Hitler was helped by very prominent Americans such as Henry Ford,
Charles Lindbergh and Prescott Bush. ?We all share in the ignonimity for
ignoring the plight of others until it got to be too late

Well, I'm tickled to see you report that. I've posted many times in
this newsgroup that historical analysis will suggest that right-wing
American industrialists, specifically including the ones you mention,
had far more to do with Hitler's rise than did any left-wing socialist
groups.

SNIP

It is not logical to attribute to a small group of industrialists the
failings of our country and politicians to head Hiller off earlier.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

Mike wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:25�pm, dave wrote:

Hitler was helped by very prominent Americans such as Henry Ford,
Charles Lindbergh and Prescott Bush. �We all share in the ignonimity for
ignoring the plight of others until it got to be too late

Well, I'm tickled to see you report that. I've posted many times in
this newsgroup that historical analysis will suggest that right-wing
American industrialists, specifically including the ones you mention,
had far more to do with Hitler's rise than did any left-wing socialist
groups.

Why does that convey a responsibility for the violence of WW2 on OUR
backs? Am I accountable for the actions of Henry Ford?

Please don't disrespect the courage of these brave souls on this day.

Mike

Again I am awed by their bravery and willingness to face probable death
taking those beaches and cliffs.

I hope the 20th Century will go down as the most violent in human history.

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

Telamon wrote:
In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:25?pm, dave wrote:

Hitler was helped by very prominent Americans such as Henry Ford,
Charles Lindbergh and Prescott Bush. ?We all share in the ignonimity for
ignoring the plight of others until it got to be too late
Well, I'm tickled to see you report that. I've posted many times in
this newsgroup that historical analysis will suggest that right-wing
American industrialists, specifically including the ones you mention,
had far more to do with Hitler's rise than did any left-wing socialist
groups.

SNIP

It is not logical to attribute to a small group of industrialists the
failings of our country and politicians to head Hiller off earlier.


Mean people suck.

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

On Jun 6, 5:24�pm, Telamon

It is not logical to attribute to a small group of industrialists the
failings of our country and politicians to head Hiller off earlier.


Ford was largely responsible for expanding the German industrial base
which was instrumental in Hitler's war effort. Ford was looking for
cheaper labor, but those plants were quickly converted to roll out
tanks.

Lindbergh was a paid consultant to the Germans, helping them set up
the Luftwaffe. He was enamored by their Spartan-like military
discipline.

I challenge anyone to show how any left-wing groups had anything to do
in supporting Hitler.

Mike

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

In article
,
Mike wrote:

On Jun 6, 5:24?pm, Telamon

It is not logical to attribute to a small group of industrialists the
failings of our country and politicians to head Hiller off earlier.


Ford was largely responsible for expanding the German industrial base
which was instrumental in Hitler's war effort. Ford was looking for
cheaper labor, but those plants were quickly converted to roll out
tanks.

Lindbergh was a paid consultant to the Germans, helping them set up
the Luftwaffe. He was enamored by their Spartan-like military
discipline.

I challenge anyone to show how any left-wing groups had anything to do
in supporting Hitler.

The American industrialists were helping rebuild a Germany recovering
from WW1. Not satisfied with that Hitler derailed that whole process of
nation rebuilding into building an army in an expansionist move not
unlike what happened to us with Saddam Hussein in Iraq. The Germans were
able to prosecute the war as they saw fit because we as a nation did not
stop them once Hitlers war plans were put in motion. We almost waited to
long to win that war and many more American soldiers died because of
that and europe paid a heavy price.

I just watched Defiance and I highly recommend it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Jun 6, 5:24?pm, Telamon

It is not logical to attribute to a small group of industrialists the
failings of our country and politicians to head Hiller off earlier.


Ford was largely responsible for expanding the German industrial base
which was instrumental in Hitler's war effort. Ford was looking for
cheaper labor, but those plants were quickly converted to roll out
tanks.

Lindbergh was a paid consultant to the Germans, helping them set up
the Luftwaffe. He was enamored by their Spartan-like military
discipline.

I challenge anyone to show how any left-wing groups had anything to do
in supporting Hitler.


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

On Jun 6, 9:46�pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...

Uh, Stalin, regardless of his own atrocities, was fooled like everyone
else signing treaties with Germany during the '30s. Hitler was at odds
with Stalin during the entire last half of the '30s.

Right-wing industrialists propped up German military infrastructure.
Now what did Stalin do for Hitler? Don't demean the 15 to 20 million
Soviets that died fighting Hitler, either. A toll far, far higher than
the US had to endure.

Mike

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Jun 6, 9:46?pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...

Uh, Stalin, regardless of his own atrocities, was fooled like everyone
else signing treaties with Germany during the '30s. Hitler was at odds
with Stalin during the entire last half of the '30s.

Right-wing industrialists propped up German military infrastructure.
Now what did Stalin do for Hitler? Don't demean the 15 to 20 million
Soviets that died fighting Hitler, either. A toll far, far higher than
the US had to endure.

Mike

Agreed. If it weren't for the Russians, we may never have won that war.
Hitler was mad as a hatter, trying to fight a war on so many simultaneous
fronts (along with turning on his allies in the middle of it all..)

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

In article ,
"Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
...
On Jun 6, 9:46?pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:


Well, there WAS that Stalin guy...

Uh, Stalin, regardless of his own atrocities, was fooled like everyone
else signing treaties with Germany during the '30s. Hitler was at odds
with Stalin during the entire last half of the '30s.

Right-wing industrialists propped up German military infrastructure.
Now what did Stalin do for Hitler?

Stalin created a non unified front against Hitler emboldening him.

Don't demean the 15 to 20 million Soviets that died fighting Hitler,
either. A toll far, far higher than the US had to endure.

Agreed. If it weren't for the Russians, we may never have won that war.
Hitler was mad as a hatter, trying to fight a war on so many simultaneous
fronts (along with turning on his allies in the middle of it all..)

I don't agree with that outlook. Hitler always crossed his fingers
behind his back when signing any treaty and decided not to honor the
nonaggression treaties he signed with the Russians starting a war on
both fronts for the Germans once he thought he had the western front
under control so don't thank the Russians thank Hitler for making his
biggest mistake in the WW2.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

June 6, 1944 - D-Day
 

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