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No ObaMao August 14th 09 01:45 AM

0baMa0's Nazi Straw man: An Old Alinsky Trick
 
The White House is playing one of old Saul Alinsky's favorite fake-em-
out tricks of the revolutionary trade.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/..._an_old_a.html

~ RHF August 14th 09 09:23 AM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - Is It a Crime ? -&- Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer Questions About Them ?
 
On Aug 13, 5:45*pm, No ObaMao wrote:

-was- 0baMa0's Nazi Straw Man: An Old Alinsky Trick
- The White House is playing one of old Saul Alinsky's
- favorite fake-em-out tricks of the revolutionary trade.
-
- http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/..._an_old_a.html

Prez Obama an "Alinskyite" Radical Revolutionary
for Socialist Change
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...cf70171998def8

dave August 14th 09 01:42 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - Is It a Crime ? -&- Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer Questions About Them ?
 
~ RHF wrote:

10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians



Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a success?

[email protected] August 14th 09 03:04 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about theObama-Care© Bills - Is It a C...
 
According To An MD, Part 1 Of DUMBASS'S Care Was Already Passed Last
February!
www.rense.com/general87/accor.htm
cuhulin


~ RHF August 14th 09 06:47 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - IS IT A CRIME ? -&- Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
 
On Aug 14, 5:42*am, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:

- - 10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5b7063bc8c7da4

- Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a
success?

Dave -yes- By God Bless America I Can !

10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
* Oops there are some honest-to-good FACTS
but the only reply will be Name Calling from the
Prez Obama and the Democrat Obama-Bots©

Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills :
? IS IT A CRIME ?
Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...823c6106816611

~ RHF August 14th 09 07:07 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - IS IT A CRIME ? - Harry Reid calls Obama-Care© Questioners and Protesters 'Evil-Mongers'
 
On Aug 14, 1:23*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:45*pm, No ObaMao wrote:

-was- 0baMa0's Nazi Straw Man: An Old Alinsky Trick
- The White House is playing one of old Saul Alinsky's
- favorite fake-em-out tricks of the revolutionary trade.
-
-http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obamas_nazi_straw_man_an_old_a...

Prez Obama an "Alinskyite" Radical Revolutionary
for Socialist Changehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95cf70171998def8
*.
10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicianshttp://groups.google..com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/465b7063bc8c7da4
*.
Oops - Reading the Obama-Care© Bills :
Is It a Crime ? -cause-
The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
-and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
Name Calling
No - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? The Obama-Care© Bills : Has Your Senators
and Congressperson Read Them ?
THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...99a85fda97af18
* .
Oops - Quoting Facts from the Obama-Care© Bills :
Is It a Crime ? -cause-
The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
-and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
Name Calling & No Facts
Yeah - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? The Obama-Care© Bills : Does Your Senators
and Congressperson Know the Facts In Them ?
THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...99a85fda97af18
*.
Oops - Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills :
Is It a Crime ? -cause-
The US Federal Government -says- Just Trust Us
-and- Prez Obama and the Democrats resort to
Name Calling when Asked Questions
Once Again - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? The Obama-Care© Bills : Can Your Senators and
Congressperson Answer Questions About Them ?
THEN HOW CAN THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA-CARE© ?
Call-Up your Congresspersons and Senators and
Tell Them : Just Say NO to Obama-Care©http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...99a85fda97af18
*.
Prez Obama's 'NAZI' Rebuttal is Name Calling :
NOT FACTS - WAY TO GO PREZ OBAMA !
? Has Prez Obama Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...99a85fda97af18
*.
Nancy Pelosi 'seeing' Swastikas is Name Calling :
NOT FACTS
? Has Nancy Pelosi Read The Obama-Care© Bills ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...99a85fda97af18


John Barnard August 17th 09 07:18 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - IS IT A CRIME ? -&- Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
 
dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On Aug 14, 5:42 am, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:

- - 10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5b7063bc8c7da4

- Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a
success?

Dave -yes- By God Bless America I Can !

10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649


How can you call it successful if a major illness can cause you to lose
your house?


Or if you pay more and still die earlier:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8201711.stm


[email protected] August 17th 09 09:00 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about theObama-Care© Bills - IS IT A C...
 
A Lifetime Guarantee.

I remember when Guarantees really meant something.If you bought
something and you weren't satisfied for whatever reason, you could take
it back and get your money back, No Questions asked!.Along came
Warranties, Warranties with all kinds of Loopholes!
Am I lieing?
cuhulin


dave August 17th 09 10:05 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - IS IT A C...
 
wrote:
A Lifetime Guarantee.

I remember when Guarantees really meant something.If you bought
something and you weren't satisfied for whatever reason, you could take
it back and get your money back, No Questions asked!.Along came
Warranties, Warranties with all kinds of Loopholes!
Am I lieing?
cuhulin


I'm almost as ancient as you, and aside from Craftsman tools, McIntosh
amps, and Zippo lighters, I can't think of anything with a
no-questions-asked lifetime guarantee.

[email protected] August 17th 09 10:30 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about theObama-Care© Bills - IS IT A C...
 
I own some old Zippo lighters, and also some old weird lookin lighters,
and also some old weird lookin ash trays, and also an old ash tray stand
which has a Greyhound Dog for a handle.Some of those old thingys like
that are Very Collectible nowadays.
www.shopgoodwill.com
Shop Salvation Army thrift stores.
Shop the junk shops and thrift stores and flea markets and yard sales.
I did all of that many years ago when the buying was Good.

Sir/Mam, may I interest you in an inshorance policy which has a Lifetime
Guarantee?
cuhulin


Brenda Ann August 17th 09 11:11 PM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - IS IT A C...
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
wrote:
A Lifetime Guarantee.

I remember when Guarantees really meant something.If you bought
something and you weren't satisfied for whatever reason, you could take
it back and get your money back, No Questions asked!.Along came
Warranties, Warranties with all kinds of Loopholes!
Am I lieing?
cuhulin


I'm almost as ancient as you, and aside from Craftsman tools, McIntosh
amps, and Zippo lighters, I can't think of anything with a
no-questions-asked lifetime guarantee.


I remember Radio Shack "Lifetime" tubes.. a lifetime warrantee that simply
vanished when it became inconvenient to continue it.



[email protected] August 18th 09 12:09 AM

(OT) : Asking Questions about theObama-Care© Bills - IS IT A C...
 
Nowadays I use those cheapo disposable lighters, I buy them in packs of
ten or twelve at the Wal Mart store.Use em up and throw them away.
It's a disposable World out there.
cuhulin


[email protected][_2_] August 18th 09 12:13 AM

(OT) : Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills - IS IT A C...
 
On Aug 17, 3:11*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
I remember Radio Shack "Lifetime" tubes.. a lifetime warrantee that simply
vanished when it became inconvenient to continue it.

Radio Shack will still replace the tubes it sold with a lifetime
warranty. However, the replacement tubes. in general, will not have
the same guarantee. Most RS managers know about this policy, but some
of the newer cellphone pushers may not.

[email protected] August 18th 09 12:35 AM

(OT) : Asking Questions about theObama-Care© Bills - IS IT A C...
 
DUMBASS'S MySpace page: I am 52 years old, not 48.
www.worldnetdaily.com

Fifty two years ago, Hawaii was a Territory, not a U.S.State.
cuhulin


~ RHF August 18th 09 04:55 AM

(OT) : Just Say "NO" to Obama-Care© and to Prez Obama's Obama-Care© "End-of-Life" {Ending-Your-Life} Counseling
 
On Aug 17, 11:18*am, John Barnard wrote:
dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On Aug 14, 5:42 am, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:


- - 10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5b7063bc8c7da4


- Can you name one large country where "for profit" health care is a
success?


Dave -yes- By God Bless America I Can !


10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649


How can you call it successful if a major illness can cause you to lose
your house?


Or if you pay more and still die earlier:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8201711.stm


JB,

The French - Social Insurance System sounds
half-way good at least for these points . . .
1 - "All Legal Residents Covered {Illegals Are Not
Covered} by Public Health Insurance that is Funded
by Compulsory Social Health Insurance Contributions
from both Employers and Employees with
NO OPTION TO OPT OUT."
2 - "Most people have EXTRA {Supplemental} Private
Insurance to cover areas that are not eligible for
reimbursement by the Public Health Insurance System;
and many {Can} make Out-of-Pocket Payments
to see a Doctor; thus bypassing waiting lines
and delays for Medical Treatment."

JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA-CARE© and to
Prez Obama's Obama-Care© "End-of-Life"
{Ending-Your-Life} Counseling :
* It's Euthanasia Targeting Senior Citizens
* It's Eugenics Targeting Senior Citizens
* It's Planned Genocide Targeting Senior Citizens
with a Denial of Health Care and Medical Treatment
of America's Senior Citizens.

~ RHF August 19th 09 07:20 PM

(OT) : Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? - Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
 
On Aug 14, 10:47*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
- On Aug 14, 5:42*am, dave wrote: ~ RHF wrote:
-
- - - 10 Questions on Obama-Care© for Evasive Politicians
- - - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5b7063bc8c7da4
-
- - Can you name one large country where "for profit"
- - health care is a success?
-
- Dave -yes- By God Bless America I Can !
-
- 10 Surprising Facts about American Health Care
- http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649
- * Oops there are some honest-to-good FACTS
- but the only reply will be Name Calling from the
- Prez Obama and the Democrat Obama-Bots©
-
- Asking Questions about the Obama-Care© Bills :
- ? IS IT A CRIME ?
- Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
- Simple Honest Questions About Obama-Care© ?
- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...823c6106816611
- *.

Ask Prez Obama :
Why isn't Tort Reform part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform

Ask Your US Congressperson __________ :
Why isn't Tort Reform part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform

Ask Your US Senator __________ :
Why isn't Tort Reform part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform

Can Rahm Emanuel answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform

Can Nancy-Ann DeParle - Prez Obama's
Health-Care CZAR answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform

Can Prez Obama's HHS Secretary Kathleen
Sebelius answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform

Can the AARP Leadership answer :
Why Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© ?
-cause- Real Heath Care Reform starts with Tort Reform
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...nior-advocacy/
-
60,000 of America's Senior Citizens have Quit
the AARP since July 1 2009 due to the AARP's
support for Obama-Care© with it's reduction in
Medicare Benefits and Coverage.

American Seniors Association (ASA) can tell you
?WHY? Tort Reform is not part of Obama-Care© !
http://www.americanseniors.org/
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsSt...d=112055&cat=5

~ RHF August 20th 09 01:10 AM

(OT) : Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? - Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
 
On Aug 19, 12:42*pm, Basic wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:09:46 -0700, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
- snip & snip & snip


I don't think you people are aware that you are stirring up some very
ugly dust and that the road you are trying to push the country down ends
badly.


Maybe ends up in another revolution,
and is why there are such vigorous gun sales these days?

Funny thing is that a large portion of the loudmouths wouldn't survive a
massive violent social condlict but would be eaten alive by the hoards
they now exhort to violence.

*If I were you I'd try to follow the money,


RHF can only follow the bloviation of Limbaugh

and figure out
what is motivating the people who are lying to you.


Huh?
RHF figure out anything on his own?

Which makes more sense,
that the fat cats are trying to stay in power
and the Dems are working to make the future better


Sounds like the version the American public has finally come to believe.

or


that the insurance companies love you
and the dems want complete control of your lives.


That sounds like the last bleatings of a dying oligarchy,
as espoused by talk show loudmouths.


Basic - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...bb18fca8797de6

n9zas August 20th 09 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~ RHF (Post 686333)
On Aug 19, 12:42*pm, Basic wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:09:46 -0700, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
- snip & snip & snip


I don't think you people are aware that you are stirring up some very
ugly dust and that the road you are trying to push the country down ends
badly.


Maybe ends up in another revolution,
and is why there are such vigorous gun sales these days?

Funny thing is that a large portion of the loudmouths wouldn't survive a
massive violent social condlict but would be eaten alive by the hoards
they now exhort to violence.

*If I were you I'd try to follow the money,


RHF can only follow the bloviation of Limbaugh

and figure out
what is motivating the people who are lying to you.


Huh?
RHF figure out anything on his own?

Which makes more sense,
that the fat cats are trying to stay in power
and the Dems are working to make the future better


Sounds like the version the American public has finally come to believe.

or


that the insurance companies love you
and the dems want complete control of your lives.


That sounds like the last bleatings of a dying oligarchy,
as espoused by talk show loudmouths.


Basic - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...bb18fca8797de6

WRONG FORUM!!!! THIS is political ****!!!! GET a clue!!!

~ RHF August 20th 09 07:35 PM

(OT) : Call Your Senators and Congresspersons -Tell Them- Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health Care Reform which includes Tort Reform
 
On Aug 19, 6:14*pm, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On Aug 19, 12:54 pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
"Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
loving you or me.
"Tort Reform" is about Insurance Companies ignoring the basic
responsibilities that lawsuits are able to address.


Bob Dobbs -real- "Tort Reform"


1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate


2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}


3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}


4 - Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering that is
'adjusted' yearly for inflation
*.


- You miss the point. *

Dave the point is Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-If it's cheaper to lose lawsuits than it is to change
- their behavior, companies will just add the cost of
- getting sued to their prices.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-*If you want them to stop killing people,
- you have to really hurt them.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- I say that if a corporation wants the rights of a
- person then the principals of said corporation
- should be subject to criminal prosecution
- and imprisonment.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- You make it sound like all people are suing to
- get rich. It's not nearly that simple.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- Why are so proud to be a dumbass? *

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- Herding instinct?

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-*Sarah Palin's voluptuous ass?

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Sexual Fantasy :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-*C'mon Roy, give us a reason you hate America.

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

Dave i can honest say : God {Allah} Bless the USA and
All Americans - Amen {can you - oh the silence} ~ RHF

~ RHF August 20th 09 07:46 PM

(OT) : CALL Your Senators and Congresspersons -Tell Them- Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health Care Reform which includes Tort Reform and All American Freedom of 'Choice'
 
On Aug 19, 6:30*pm, Basic wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:42:50 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:

I don't speak for Mr Dobbs (J R 'Bob' Dobbs)
but will try to answer your questions until he returns

OB - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer a Simple Honest
Question About Obama-Care© ?


Probably not as there isn't any such thing. It's just a silly term you
wingers coined to refer to that which you either can't comprehend or are
so hypnotized by your master Rush that you refuse to examine.

: Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of
Obama-Care© ?


Tort law could, and probably should, be strengthened to permit better
redress of wrongdoing, but it's not part of the current health coverage
reform so badly needed.

"Tort Reform" Is only a distraction
by shills for the corporate fascists.


Basic "Tort Reform" and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System will improve
Health Care in the USA.

Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell Them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

Basic - Can Your Senators and Congressperson Answer
a Simple Honest Question About Obama-Care© ? :
Why "Tort Reform" is NOT Part of Obama-Care© ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...bb18fca8797de6

n9zas August 21st 09 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~ RHF (Post 686385)
On Aug 19, 6:14*pm, dave wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On Aug 19, 12:54 pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
"Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
loving you or me.
"Tort Reform" is about Insurance Companies ignoring the basic
responsibilities that lawsuits are able to address.


Bob Dobbs -real- "Tort Reform"


1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate


2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}


3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}


4 - Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering that is
'adjusted' yearly for inflation
*.


- You miss the point. *

Dave the point is Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-If it's cheaper to lose lawsuits than it is to change
- their behavior, companies will just add the cost of
- getting sued to their prices.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-*If you want them to stop killing people,
- you have to really hurt them.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- I say that if a corporation wants the rights of a
- person then the principals of said corporation
- should be subject to criminal prosecution
- and imprisonment.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- You make it sound like all people are suing to
- get rich. It's not nearly that simple.

Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- Why are so proud to be a dumbass? *

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

- Herding instinct?

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-*Sarah Palin's voluptuous ass?

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Sexual Fantasy :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

-*C'mon Roy, give us a reason you hate America.

Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.

Dave i can honest say : God {Allah} Bless the USA and
All Americans - Amen {can you - oh the silence} ~ RHF

RHF THIS is the WRONG forum!!!! DO NOT post polotics here!!!!!

~ RHF August 21st 09 08:53 AM

(ot) : cause it off-topic - silencing one is to silence all
 
On Aug 20, 8:59*pm, n9zas wrote:
~ RHF;686385 Wrote:



On Aug 19, 6:14*pm, dave wrote:-
~ RHF wrote:-
On Aug 19, 12:54 pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:-
~ RHF wrote:
"Tort Reform" ain't about Insurance Companies
loving you or me.
"Tort Reform" is about Insurance Companies ignoring the basic
responsibilities that lawsuits are able to address.--
-
Bob Dobbs -real- "Tort Reform"-
-
1 - Mandatory Arbitration by a Government run
Patient's Advocacy Panel {Salaried} :
Local City/County Health Commissioner/Hearing Officer
Local City/County Medical Expert/Doctor
Local City/County Patient's Advocate-
-
2 - Medical Coverage {Free If Awarded}-
-
3 - Disability Coverage and Retraining {If Awarded}-
-
4 - Fixed Limits for Pain and Suffering that is
'adjusted' yearly for inflation
*.--


- You miss the point. *


Dave the point is Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


-If it's cheaper to lose lawsuits than it is to change
- their behavior, companies will just add the cost of
- getting sued to their prices.


Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


-*If you want them to stop killing people,
- you have to really hurt them.


Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


- I say that if a corporation wants the rights of a
- person then the principals of said corporation
- should be subject to criminal prosecution
- and imprisonment.


Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


- You make it sound like all people are suing to
- get rich. It's not nearly that simple.


Dave it about Tort Reform and Eliminating the Lawyers
from the Medical Health Care System.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


- Why are so proud to be a dumbass? *


Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


- Herding instinct?


Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


-*Sarah Palin's voluptuous ass?


Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Sexual Fantasy :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


-*C'mon Roy, give us a reason you hate America.


Dave that's Obama-Bot© Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :
Not Facts about real Health Care Reform that includes
Tort Reform as a Key Feature.
Call Your Senators and Congresspersons : Tell them
Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The
Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health
Care Reform which includes Tort Reform.


Dave i can honest say : God {Allah} Bless the USA and
All Americans - Amen {can you - oh the silence} ~ RHF


RHF THIS is the WRONG forum!!!! DO NOT post polotics here!!!!!

--
n9zas


so... why didn't you post this to dave first
or to any of the other 25 posts made by
'others' - silencing one is to silence all ~ RHF

Bushcraftgregg August 21st 09 09:47 AM

(OT) : CALL Your Senators and Congresspersons -Tell Them- Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health Care Reform which includes Tort Reform and All American Freedom of 'Choice'
 
On Aug 20, 7:01*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Aug 20, 12:52*pm, Toxic wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:46:09 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:
Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that Americans have the Right
to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
*.


- The American public has overwhelmingly expressed their sentiments
- regarding health care back in November, only corporate lackeys like
you
- refuse to accept the results of the American democratic system and


snipped

I've heard both sides of it, almost to the point that I don't know
what to believe. Me personally, something just doesn't sound
right.

I asked my doctor about it yesterday and without pause he said
"it won't be good for the physicians but more importantly it will be
bad
for my patients." I don't trust much of anyone when it comes to people
in any positions of power, I've seen just about everyone in my
personal
life abuse that power in some way or another....some just worse than
others.

But I do know this much, as for my doctor, he's only been my doctor
for almost two years now and I've never caught him bullcrapping me,
he's always been honest with me even though at times I haven't
agreed with him, he always done what was best for me. Just my
take on it FWIW.

~ RHF August 22nd 09 02:14 AM

(OT) : CALL Your Senators and Congresspersons -Tell Them- Just Say NO to Obama-Care© and Yes to “The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009,” which is real Health Care Reform which includes Tort Reform and All American Freedom of 'Choice'
 
On Aug 21, 1:47*am, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Aug 20, 7:01*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:

On Aug 20, 12:52*pm, Toxic wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:46:09 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:
Call the White House and TELL Prez Obama that Americans have the Right
to a 'Choice' in Health Care.
*.


- The American public has overwhelmingly expressed their sentiments
- regarding health care back in November, only corporate lackeys like
you
- refuse to accept the results of the American democratic system and


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * snipped

I've heard both sides of it, almost to the point that I don't know
what to believe. Me personally, something just doesn't sound
right.

I asked my doctor about it yesterday and without pause he said
"it won't be good for the physicians but more importantly it will be
bad
for my patients." I don't trust much of anyone when it comes to people
in any positions of power, I've seen just about everyone in my
personal
life abuse that power in some way or another....some just worse than
others.

But I do know this much, as for my doctor, he's only been my doctor
for almost two years now and I've never caught him bullcrapping me,
he's always been honest with me even though at times I haven't
agreed with him, he always done what was best for me. Just my
take on it FWIW.


BCG,

What your Doctor did not say in plain english
was -if- your are paying via Medicare once
Obama-Care© is Law : The Doctor would be
able {afford} to Treat You as a Medicare Patient
cause the Doctor would lose to much Money
with each and every Medicare Patient; with all
the reductions in Medicare Paid Fees that
would be mandated by Obama-Care© as a
so-called Saving to Balance the Obama-Care©
Budget by Denying Medical Treatment of
America's Senior Citizens and offering them
End-of-Life {Ending-Your-Life} Counseling.

obama-care© coming to a us senior citizen
grave-yard near you ~ RHF


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