I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

Yet most of the talk going on here seems to be completely unrelated to
short wave radio and much more about right wing politics. If I wanted
to hear about how Obama is Marx re-incarnate or how Sarah Palin is the
second coming of Christ, I wouldn't be reading this newsgroup, I'd be
watching Fox News. Seriously. What's up with all the politics?

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

On Nov 5, 2:17*pm, "Mike K." wrote:
Yet most of the talk going on here seems to be completely unrelated to
short wave radio and much more about right wing politics. If I wanted
to hear about how Obama is Marx re-incarnate or how Sarah Palin is the
second coming of Christ, I wouldn't be reading this newsgroup, I'd be
watching Fox News. Seriously. What's up with all the politics?

I have to agree with you. I was somewhat guilty of
it before the election because I was tired of hearing
all the Bush Whacking going on for years.

Of course I knew Obama was going to win and throughout his entire term
everything was STILL
going to be blamed on Bush.

I'm pretty much out of the politics talk unless it is
about Israel. But I do agree with you.

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Mike K.
Correct you are. It's really unreadable due to the politics and
spammers.

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

Gregg wrote:
Of course I knew Obama was going to win and throughout his entire term
everything was STILL
going to be blamed on Bush.

On Nov 5, 4:47 pm, Nick Danger wrote:

Well, the very right-wing, very Republican Wall Street Journal said the
current Depression began in 4Q '07/1Q '08, clearly on Bush's watch. Even
if you assume that the Depression didn't just happen overnight, but took
3-4-5-6 years to develop, that *still* is clearly on Bush's watch.

Also, Bush started both the Afghan and Iraq wars.

Obama, in his few months on the job only INHERITED the Depression and
the two wars from Bush...so, yes, we *DO* blame Bush.

N? ?baMa? wrote:

The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act,
a once-obscure and lightly enforced banking regulation law, into one
of the most powerful mandates shaping American cities—and, as Senate
Banking Committee chairman Phil Gramm memorably put it, a vast
extortion scheme against the nation's banks. Under its provisions,
U.S. banks have committed nearly $1 trillion for inner-city and low-
income mortgages and real estate development projects, most of it
funneled through a nationwide network of left-wing community groups,
intent, in some cases, on teaching their low-income clients that the
financial system is their enemy and, implicitly, that government,
rather than their own striving, is the key to their well-being.

Well, if -you- claim to know this, then it would be a very fair
assumption to say that Bush knew it, too...AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT FOR
EIGHT *YEARS*!

So, with that in mind, once again, we DO blame Bush.

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

On Nov 5, 3:59Â*pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅ wrote:
On Nov 5, 4:47Â*pm, Nick Danger wrote:


The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act,
....

Thank you for illustrating the point that started this discussion.
Here is yet another bugger-eatin'-moron blathering on about something
completely unrelated to this group.

And why?

Because in any group where folks were REALLY interested in this topic,
they would

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

On Nov 5, 3:59Â*pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅ wrote:
On Nov 5, 4:47Â*pm, Nick Danger wrote:

Gregg wrote:
Of course I knew Obama was going to win and throughout his entire term
everything was STILL
going to be blamed on Bush.

Well, the very right-wing, very Republican Wall Street Journal said the
current Depression began in 4Q '07/1Q '08, clearly on Bush's watch. Even
if you assume that the Depression didn't just happen overnight, but took
3-4-5-6 years to develop, that *still* is clearly on Bush's watch.

Also, Bush started both the Afghan and Iraq wars.

Obama, in his few months on the job only INHERITED the Depression and
the two wars from Bush...so, yes, we *DO* blame Bush.

The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act,
....
Thanks for illustrating the pointn N0 0bama0! You're yet another
bugger-
eatin'-moron right winger blathering away about something that has no
bearing
at ALL to this group. And why? Because in a group where folks in the
know
DO discuss this, he'd be buried and laughed off of the group!

I'm neither Republican or Democrat, I'm a Libertarian. You know,
what
Thomas Jefferson was. What many republicans were before they
got so hot to sell out completely to the highest bidder. All of that
garbage you spouted took up more room than the whole rest of the
discussion,
and never a mention of the irreparable harm done by the Reagan
administration.
And yet, HE is credited with ending the Cold War??? Charlie Wilson did
more to
end the cold war than the entire Reagan administration, which really
means that
the only thing they can really be credited with is destroying whatever
chances this country ever had of maintaining some checks and balances
inherent in the two party system.

Face it, you REALLY haven't a clue, you can only maintain belief
in the republican party by listening to bloated, corrupt, drug
addicts
that get paid top dollar to create from whole cloth whatever noise
will sound like reason to their deeply disenfranchised and
confused audience.

I won't go off on the Democrats because, quite frankly, they're
just not as completely off the wall, at least on this group, AND,
AGAIN,
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS GROUP IS HERE TO
DISCUSS!

Pull your head out! and get your ass off of this group if you
have anything to discuss other than shortwave radio! Be a man
and see how long you last in a political discussion group
fairly represented by ALL parties. Of course you won't,
you haven't the brains or the guts!

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

On Nov 5, 4:18*pm, Nick Danger wrote:
Gregg wrote:
Of course I knew Obama was going to win and throughout his entire term
everything was STILL
going to be blamed on Bush.

* On Nov 5, 4:47 pm, Nick Danger wrote:



Well, the very right-wing, very Republican Wall Street Journal said the
current Depression began in 4Q '07/1Q '08, clearly on Bush's watch. Even
if you assume that the Depression didn't just happen overnight, but took
3-4-5-6 years to develop, that *still* is clearly on Bush's watch.

Also, Bush started both the Afghan and Iraq wars.

Obama, in his few months on the job only INHERITED the Depression and
the two wars from Bush...so, yes, we *DO* blame Bush.
N? ?baMa? wrote:
The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act,
a once-obscure and lightly enforced banking regulation law, into one
of the most powerful mandates shaping American cities—and, as Senate
Banking Committee chairman Phil Gramm memorably put it, a vast
extortion scheme against the nation's banks. Under its provisions,
U.S. banks have committed nearly $1 trillion for inner-city and low-
income mortgages and real estate development projects, most of it
funneled through a nationwide network of left-wing community groups,
intent, in some cases, on teaching their low-income clients that the
financial system is their enemy and, implicitly, that government,
rather than their own striving, is the key to their well-being.

Well, if -you- claim to know this, then it would be a very fair
assumption *to say that Bush knew it, too...AND DID NOTHING ABOUT IT FOR
EIGHT *YEARS*!

So, with that in mind, once again, we DO blame Bush.

Prez Obama is now the President

All 'other' {former} Presidents are History

It's Now Blame Prez Obama Time !

and that's so much trash talk ~ RHF

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On Nov 5, 9:23Â*pm, guyo wrote:
On Nov 5, 3:59Â*pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅ wrote:

On Nov 5, 4:47Â*pm, Nick Danger wrote:

Gregg wrote:
Of course I knew Obama was going to win and throughout his entire term
everything was STILL
going to be blamed on Bush.

Well, the very right-wing, very Republican Wall Street Journal said the
current Depression began in 4Q '07/1Q '08, clearly on Bush's watch. Even
if you assume that the Depression didn't just happen overnight, but took
3-4-5-6 years to develop, that *still* is clearly on Bush's watch.

Also, Bush started both the Afghan and Iraq wars.

Obama, in his few months on the job only INHERITED the Depression and
the two wars from Bush...so, yes, we *DO* blame Bush.

The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act,

...
Thanks for illustrating the pointn N0 0bama0! Â*You're yet another
bugger-
eatin'-moron right winger blathering away about something that has no
bearing
at ALL to this group. Â*And why? Â*Because in a group where folks in the
know
DO discuss this, he'd be buried and laughed off of the group!

I'm neither Republican or Democrat, I'm a Libertarian. Â*You know,
what
Thomas Jefferson was. Â*What many republicans were before they
got so hot to sell out completely to the highest bidder. Â*All of that
garbage you spouted took up more room than the whole rest of the
discussion,
and never a mention of the irreparable harm done by the Reagan
administration.
And yet, HE is credited with ending the Cold War??? Charlie Wilson did
more to
end the cold war than the entire Reagan administration, which really
means that
the only thing they can really be credited with is destroying whatever
chances this country ever had of maintaining some checks and balances
inherent in the two party system.

Face it, you REALLY haven't a clue, you can only maintain belief
in the republican party by listening to bloated, corrupt, drug
addicts
that get paid top dollar to create from whole cloth whatever noise
will sound like reason to their deeply disenfranchised and
confused audience.

I won't go off on the Democrats because, quite frankly, they're
just not as completely off the wall, at least on this group, AND,
AGAIN,
THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS GROUP IS HERE TO
DISCUSS!

Pull your head out! Â*and get your ass off of this group if you
have anything to discuss other than shortwave radio! Â*Be a man
and see how long you last in a political discussion group
fairly represented by ALL parties. Â*Of course you won't,
you haven't the brains or the guts!

GUYO - rant-on, Rant-On. RANT-ON !

never get between a man and his rant ~ RHF

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Nick Danger wrote:


Also, Bush started both the Afghan and Iraq wars.

After letting 9-11 happen, so he'd have a rationale to invade Iraq
(which was planned before the Bush inauguration).

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

On Nov 5, 2:17*pm, "Mike K." wrote:
Yet most of the talk going on here seems to be completely unrelated to
short wave radio and much more about right wing politics. If I wanted
to hear about how Obama is Marx re-incarnate or how Sarah Palin is the
second coming of Christ, I wouldn't be reading this newsgroup, I'd be
watching Fox News. Seriously. What's up with all the politics?

People are people and they're often interested in politics and post
off-topic to this group. You'll encounter that in lots of groups, not
just this one.

This group was at one time dedicated to the SWL hobby. It's focus is
now the business-side of commercial radio broadcasting. If you're
interested in learning about the business of commercial radio, the HD
boondoggle, etc., then there's lots of discussion of those things
here. If you're interested in shortwave listening, antennas or any of
the technical aspects of the SWL hobby, you'd be better served by some
other group.

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

Steve wrote:

This group was at one time dedicated to the SWL hobby. It's focus is
now the business-side of commercial radio broadcasting. If you're
interested in learning about the business of commercial radio, the HD
boondoggle, etc., then there's lots of discussion of those things
here. If you're interested in shortwave listening, antennas or any of
the technical aspects of the SWL hobby, you'd be better served by some
other group.


Such as...

The group is about (among other things)wireless communications, from DC
to daylight. Quite a few people here are BCB DXers. Since the 'Dwardos
of the world want to ruin the bands with interference, there is a lively
discussion on how corporate America is incapable of doing good radio.

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

On Nov 6, 4:45*am, Bob Dobbs wrote:
wrote:

I highly reccommend the book. Lots of geeky stuff in it since it is
written from the viewpont of the techies in the CIA.

I found a downloadable pdf version and agree it's an interesting read.
Since I'm of the cold war era, it was all relevant and memorable.
Thanks for the recommendation.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

PDF. Hmmh. I don't think the authors wouild approve of that. Great
book though. So many good stories.

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

Mike K. wrote:

Yet most of the talk going on here seems to be completely unrelated to
short wave radio and much more about right wing politics. If I wanted
to hear about how Obama is Marx re-incarnate or how Sarah Palin is the
second coming of Christ, I wouldn't be reading this newsgroup, I'd be
watching Fox News. Seriously. What's up with all the politics?
You are in the wrong group. Shortwave radio is rarely discussed here
anymore except by a few die-hards. John Plimmer's reports on MWDX around
the world are the only thing that keeps me subscribing.

I thought this was the shortwave newsgroup
 

dave wrote:


The group is about (among other things)wireless communications, from DC
to daylight. Quite a few people here are BCB DXers. Since the 'Dwardos
of the world want to ruin the bands with interference, there is a lively
discussion on how corporate America is incapable of doing good radio.
I don't care about Ibiquity or IBOC, or 'Dwardo. I read John's great posts
about MWDX, some of the new guys who are actually dx'ing(the guy from
Vegas), and a few others. Like the radio reviews from the people who
actually want to talk radios, but then there are the other groups for that:
antique radio+phono, boatanchors, etc. That is where the real radio guys
hang out.

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Bob Dobbs wrote:

SC Dxing wrote:
Mike K.
Correct you are. It's really unreadable due to the politics and
spammers.

Do you forego SWL listening because of a little noise,
or try to filter it out and carry on?
Don't be a wuss, use a killfilter, it's what they're for.

Kill-files fill up faster than a gas tank! My kill-files are larger than
the real posts from some groups.

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N∅ ∅baMa∅ wrote:

snipped
What did you do? Cut and paste the Wall Street Journal? Barron's? Forbes?
Why don't you tell us what you heard on the SW/MW Band? That would be
interesting!

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guyo wrote:

THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS GROUP IS HERE TO
DISCUSS!

Pull your head out! and get your ass off of this group if you
have anything to discuss other than shortwave radio! Be a man
and see how long you last in a political discussion group
fairly represented by ALL parties. Of course you won't,
you haven't the brains or the guts!
Just get him, and you, to stick to radios, SW/MW DX and we'll all be happy.
Politics is like pounding sand, just fills back in and you can't tell where
you did it.

Most of these clowns don't look at the thread topics that they post this crap in! Maybe they can't read,or just have no idea of the in's and out's of posting but this has been going on here since 2006 when I became a reader. It will only change if other readers stand up and post against these morons until they stop! If every time they post a martha stewart recipe or advertise viagra in RADIOBANTER.COM that 20 other posters jump their a** for it and embarrass them,then maybe they'll wise up!

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On Nov 6, 6:06*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 6, 4:45*am, Bob Dobbs wrote:
wrote:

I highly reccommend the book. Lots of geeky stuff in it since it is
written from the viewpont of the techies in the CIA.

I found a downloadable pdf version and agree it's an interesting read.
Since I'm of the cold war era, it was all relevant and memorable.
Thanks for the recommendation.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

PDF. Hmmh. I don't think the authors wouild approve of that.

If they're real spooks, they can come get me
til then I'll keep enjoying the book.

Great
book though. So many good stories.

Lots of good stuff out there with a bit of searching,
and the fact that someone bothered to scan it into an ebook
is a testament to its worth.

gotta go service my dead drop now ;-)

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

When you do a brush pass, resist the urge to do an elbow bump. Have
you finished your jack in the box for use in the carpool lane?

They never explained how "the thing" works. It looks to me that the
sound vibration detunes the antenna a bit, altering the antenna gain,
making the signal amplitude modulate.

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cf wrote:

I don't care about Ibiquity or IBOC, or 'Dwardo. I read John's great posts
about MWDX, some of the new guys who are actually dx'ing(the guy from
Vegas), and a few others. Like the radio reviews from the people who
actually want to talk radios, but then there are the other groups for that:
antique radio+phono, boatanchors, etc. That is where the real radio guys
hang out.


That's very nice. I don't consider hunting flamethrowers with $4k
Japanese radios much sport. Try resolving call signs on 1240 AM some
time.

Since SWBC is going away the true hobbyist needs to find new sources of
international news and new targets for their receivers.

Clue: Amateurs are way more likely to verify than AM broadcasters, and
much more challenging to receive.