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RHF November 22nd 09 10:31 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
On Nov 22, 9:13*am, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:18:00 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty

wrote:
Remember


It's better to "give" than to receive and better to "earn" than to
steal. *I gave what can NOT be taken and earned what I have.


- You earn in a society that allows you to do so.

Citizens Create {Tolerate} a Society That Benefits
Them : To Reap The Benefits of That Society.

- It's better to "earn" a million and keep most, than
- live in a system where you simply cannot earn anything

It's better to "earn" a million and keep 'something',
{have something - a reasonable portion}

than live in a system where you simply cannot
earn anything {and have nothing}

1 - Did the man that worked hard for a year
and earned $50K earn his money; because
he simply work hard for it ?
# A 15% Income Tax on this Man leaves
him with $42.5K to Spend. [1X]

2 - Did the man that worked hard for a year
and earn $250K earn his money; because
he worked so many more hours and so much
harder ? -or- Did He simply Benefit from the
Hard Work of many $25K a Year Workers ?
? Does That Man Have A Social Responsibility*
To Those Who's Support Benefited Him ?
* Including the Consumers of His Produces
and Services.
# A 30% Income Tax on this Man leaves
him with $175K to Spend. [4X]

3 - Did the man that worked hard for a year
and earn $1.25M earn his money; because
he worked so many many more hours and
so much much harder ? -or- Did He simply
Benefit from the Hard Work of many $25K
and $250K a Year Workers ?
? Does That Man Have A Social Responsibility
To Those Who's Support Benefited Him ?
* Including the Consumers of His Produces
and Services.
# A 45% Income Tax on this Man leaves
him with $687.5KM to Spend. [16X]

All Three Men are equally necessary for a
Society to Function; and All Three Men are
Dependent on each other in Society for it
to Function. All Three Men have a Social
Responsibility to Society {Obligation} to
Contribute Proportionally to Society based
upon their Proportional Benefits from the
Society. - yada, Yada. YADA ! ~ RHF

dave November 22nd 09 11:52 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:


Sharing his life of theft from others is is evil....

I don't steal. I help make TV shows, which is far more evil.


You belong to a collective of thieves.... if you vote to take money from
people for no need other than redistribution, it's not even
constitutional. It's just stealing.

If you belong to a lynch mob you are a murderer, if you belong to a
redistribution mob, then you are a thief.

No matter who you think is right or wrong or how many agree, the
constitution lays out the laws and using a mob to break the law is not a
way to hide from the laws.


Some of the Founders (notably Jefferson) advocated taxing the **** out
of rich people to prevent the establishment of a permanent aristocracy
in the USA. They were quite radical in this regard. You tax rich
people to prevent them from becoming too powerful. "Redistribution" is
an end result, but not the motivation, (which is the preservation of our
style of government.)



Beam Me Up Scotty[_2_] November 23rd 09 02:49 AM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:


Sharing his life of theft from others is is evil....
I don't steal. I help make TV shows, which is far more evil.


You belong to a collective of thieves.... if you vote to take money from
people for no need other than redistribution, it's not even
constitutional. It's just stealing.

If you belong to a lynch mob you are a murderer, if you belong to a
redistribution mob, then you are a thief.

No matter who you think is right or wrong or how many agree, the
constitution lays out the laws and using a mob to break the law is not a
way to hide from the laws.


Some of the Founders (notably Jefferson) advocated taxing the **** out
of rich people to prevent the establishment of a permanent aristocracy
in the USA. They were quite radical in this regard. You tax rich
people to prevent them from becoming too powerful. "Redistribution" is
an end result, but not the motivation, (which is the preservation of our
style of government.)



The constitution says what limits government has by giving it a few
powers and the rest are for the State and the people.

There is no power for the Federal Government to spend on anything but
Federal Government, there is no provision to give money to "the people".
When spending is out of jurisdiction, it is the same as taxing out of
the Federal governments jurisdiction, it's unconstitutional.

The constitution doesn't say congress may spend on what ever they want,
it prescribes the limits.

There is no Constitutional redistribution.... what ever they "talked
about" it is irrelevant if it's not in the constitution as a power
prescribed to the United States which in the constitution is actually
"the United States Government" known today as the Federal government.

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Beam Me Up Scotty[_2_] November 23rd 09 02:53 AM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:45:06 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:13 am, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:18:00 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty

wrote:
Remember
It's better to "give" than to receive and better to "earn" than to
steal. I gave what can NOT be taken and earned what I have.
- You earn in a society that allows you to do so.

No it is society who want me to earn, so that I can increase everyones
standard of living....


That's utter nonsense

Those who might depend on YOUR "business" become
subservient to whatever YOU decide


They can find employment else where.
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Beam Me Up Scotty[_2_] November 23rd 09 03:22 AM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:44:59 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Nov 21, 11:49 am, dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:



Does that tell you anything? Socialists are the root of damn near all
our problems
- Sharing and caring is the root of all evil?

Caring Without common sense and....


There you go again

YOUR interpretation of "common sense" is tin hat.


From the guy who supports spending more money to cure the problem of
spending too much money.....


Just how deep does your particular neurosis run?















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[email protected] November 23rd 09 03:28 AM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
Are they eating out of trucks nowadays?

CHOWWWWWW! Go and get them vittles, y'all.
Soylent Green!
http://cruftbox.com/cruft/docs/lafoodtrucks.html

Aw Haw Haw Haw,,,,,,
cuhulin


Beam Me Up Scotty[_2_] November 23rd 09 05:30 AM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:45:06 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:13 am, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:18:00 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty

wrote:
Remember
It's better to "give" than to receive and better to "earn" than to
steal. I gave what can NOT be taken and earned what I have.
- You earn in a society that allows you to do so.

No it is society who want me to earn, so that I can increase everyones
standard of living....


That's utter nonsense

Those who might depend on YOUR "business" become
subservient to whatever YOU decide


They can find employment else where.


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Beam Me Up Scotty[_2_] November 23rd 09 05:34 AM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 

RHF wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:13 am, wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:18:00 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty

wrote:
Remember
It's better to "give" than to receive and better to "earn" than to
steal. I gave what can NOT be taken and earned what I have.



- You earn in a society that allows you to do so.



To start with, the government doesn't allow me to earn..... the
government has no power to stop me from earning.



















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Ima[_2_] November 23rd 09 07:29 AM

(OT) : GOP Swampland dealers
 
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:55:46 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

dave wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

Sharing his life of theft from others is is evil....


I don't steal. I help make TV shows, which is far more evil.

You belong to a collective of thieves.... if you vote to take money from
people for no need other than redistribution, it's not even
constitutional. It's just stealing.


but, you seem to think it's OK for a wall street investor to "invest" a
retiree's money into a system that leaves the wall street investor with
earnings of several $$million$$ of tax free money at the expense of the
retiree's account because the retiree is incapable of understanding the
sophistication of the investment created by the banking system?

There is nothing that your limpballs GOP leader of the do-nothing-party-
of-NO can say that will make me (or anybody of reason) believe this is OK
for our country. Remember, he is one of them with $$millions$$ and your
not.

I have an investment for you! what's your phone number?

dave November 23rd 09 02:02 PM

(OT) : Dave -proclaims- The Root of All Evil
 
wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:08:44 -0800, dave


I don't steal. I help make TV shows, which is far more evil.


Christsakes

If you look at the difference in common sense of
Americans before and after the advent of "TV"---you'd
keep your mouth shut

You produce nothing of value


If it makes people forget there is a world full of assholes for a few
minutes every so often, it has value to me.


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