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Krypsis[_2_] November 30th 09 01:03 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
wrote:
Ford Falcon, Good cars.Back in the 1970s, one of the vehicles I owned


Had a 62 6 cylinder (170 CI) auto sedan that I bought new. Grey with a
white roof, had hardly any miles on it when I sold it in 73. It was a
fuel hog! A bit more go than the basic model that had a 144 CI engine
though. Comfortable to drive and never gave me trouble in the 11 years I
had it.
Wouldn't mind a 66 2 door hardtop right now. They are fetching serious
money these days.

Krypsis

was a 1962 Ford Falcon 4 door car.It had a 6 cylinder engine and manual
shift transmission.I traded it to my old buddy for his 1950 Ford car,
six cylinder engine, manual shift transmission with overdrive.He had
bought the 1950 Ford car for a second car when he and I went to Hinds
Community College on the G.I.Bill, Winter time of 1972 - 1973.
cuhulin


D. Peter Maus November 30th 09 01:04 PM

Shortwave for cars
 
On 11/30/09 03:06 , Bill Baka wrote:
wrote:
I like the 1957 Fords, I once owned a 1957 Ford Thunderbird.


1957 saw Ford make some mistakes, for sure. The Skyliner was a bomb at
the dealers due to the 30 + motors involved. I liked the styling and the
1957 T-bird, the last before it got bloated.
I traded a
1968 Ford Mustang for the Thunderbird in Lawrenceville,Georgia.I have
owned a 1964 Ford Mustang car before, also a 1931 Ford four door Model A
car I bought from a guy in Liberal,Kansas back in the 1970s.I have owned
a 1939 Ford fastback car and a 1948 Chevrolet pickup truck too.I traded
that pickup truck to an old buddy for some collectible folding money and
some collectible silver coins.I still have that money here, in my box at
the bank.I have owned a lot of vehicles over the past years.
cuhulin

I have you beat by about 4 or 5 times as many cars over the years.
My favorite for quiet running was a 1948 Studebaker at 65 in overdrive.
Flat head again so no notice able engine noise.
I miss Detroit iron.

Bill Baka


Um...that '48 would be South Bend Steel.

Or Los Angeles.



Krypsis[_2_] November 30th 09 01:34 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Bill Baka wrote:
Krypsis wrote:


snip


His shares have a long term history of stability and regular dividends
which was his goal, income, not growth.


Can't be an American company then.


All Aussie shares, not a foreigner amongst them.

snip


Same here except my dad drank and smoked himself into a stroke at 83.


83 is still a reasonable innings if he had reasonable health up until
then. I'd be happy with that as long as I was in good health and able to
do all that I wanted to do without limitations.

His wife or kids might just try to auction off the cars.


He didn't have any kids and his wife is at a loss right now just what
to do. Money isn't a problem for her in the short and long term as
share dividends will see to that. More of an issue is her remote
location and inability to drive a car. Her home is in the hills
outside the urban limits with limited public transport options.


She can't drive? What is up with that? Sounds like a 1920's kind of
problem.


More common here amongst older women than you would realise. Younger
generation women all seem to drive these days.

Anyway, the cars are all in bits. There was only one person who knew
how they all went together and he's gone. It would take weeks to just
find everything. In my brief visit to the workshop, I saw bits
scattered all over. Interestingly, he had been working on converting
the engine bearings to full pressure fed lubrication. He'd drilled the
crank and was in the process of building a larger oil pump to supply
the extra requirements. He even had a new sump and pan cast to provide
the extra room for the pump. He had been talking about doing this but
I hadn't realised he was as far along as he was. I did say his
restorations were "unconventional", didn't I?


In other words, you or I or any car nut would be in heaven just trying
to find parts to match to the cars. Found a manifold, must be for that
one, radiator must go there, etc. Then the cars would get worked on as I
found the parts.
Damn, am I dreaming.


Nah, I'd only see their potential as a rod. But then, I prefer fifties
and sixties era cars. They were what I grew up with.

Nobody under 40 seems to give a crap about cars anymore.


Yep. I don't know what will happen to my garage full of rods when I
drop off the perch. None of my kids are mechanically inclined, the
grandkids are more interested in partying and hooning.


Damn. I wasn't even allowed to drive my first car (with a legal permit)
until I could convince my dad I could change a tire, diagnose a no spark
or bad fuel pump, and fill every last one of my fluids. Only then did I
get to go anywhere. My daughter, BTW, could care less about anything
mechanical, so I don't know who to give the car too. Maybe I'll be
buried in it like that rich woman was in her Ferrari. I have one
grandson who might want it, I hope.


Waste of a good car. Don't think I could ever do that! Might leave them
out of my will and let the family fight over them. That'll sort out who
really wants them.


Guess the great grandkids
are my only hope. Would hate to see the rods get sold off. Don't want
to risk using them, don't want to risk losing them. What a conundrum!


I have that too. I am still looking for a 1962 to 1964 Ford Falcon to
mileage up.


You could've bought mine from me ... in 73


He will be missed whether I knew him or not.

Bill Baka


Sure will be missed around here. Used to have long phone calls about
his projects. Sometimes an hour, sometimes 2 but always interesting.
Miss them already.

Krypsis


I guess I'm getting to where friends will start going. Lost 3 in three
years.
Sigh
Bill Baka


When I was in my teens and twenties, a lot of my friends died in car
wrecks. Now I'm in my seventies my friends are all dying of more natural
causes. Most of my friends from the teen years are gone already as they
were ten and twenty years older than me then. I was the youngster of the
group. Guess I'm used to seeing friends depart this life. Trouble is, a
lot of the departures these days are friends younger than me!

Krypsis


[email protected] November 30th 09 04:10 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Detroit Iron, a moniker I like to use for all American Brand Names
Vehicles, American Manufactured Vehicles.Detroit Iron, can't be beat.

Superior School Buses (formerly, Pontiac Coach Company, something like
that anyway) are Manufactured in Kosciusko,Mississippi, since
1951.Detroit Iron.Best in the World.
cuhulin


Bill Baka December 1st 09 01:20 AM

Shortwave for cars
 
D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 11/30/09 03:06 , Bill Baka wrote:
I have you beat by about 4 or 5 times as many cars over the years.
My favorite for quiet running was a 1948 Studebaker at 65 in overdrive.
Flat head again so no notice able engine noise.
I miss Detroit iron.

Bill Baka


Um...that '48 would be South Bend Steel.

Or Los Angeles.



OK,
Close but no cigar.
The fun thing about the Studebaker and the 1961 Rambler was that a
friend was actually leaning on the Rambler and asked to hear it run.
He almost fell over when I said it was running. I replaced the generator
with an alternator, breaker-less ignition, and super quiet mufflers. The
Rambler was about as stripped down as I have ever seen an American car
and the Studebaker was an example of how good American cars could be.
Bill Baka

Bill Baka December 1st 09 01:45 AM

Shortwave for cars?
 
wrote:
Detroit Iron, a moniker I like to use for all American Brand Names
Vehicles, American Manufactured Vehicles.Detroit Iron, can't be beat.

Superior School Buses (formerly, Pontiac Coach Company, something like
that anyway) are Manufactured in Kosciusko,Mississippi, since
1951.Detroit Iron.Best in the World.
cuhulin

So maybe I should have just said "American iron". I miss Checker cabs
cars, since they were designed for New York taxi service and were as
bulletproof as any car made. I don't know why they stopped production
unless the cab companies started buying foreign.

Bill Baka

Bill Baka December 1st 09 02:01 AM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Krypsis wrote:
Bill Baka wrote:
Krypsis wrote:


snip


His shares have a long term history of stability and regular
dividends which was his goal, income, not growth.


Can't be an American company then.


All Aussie shares, not a foreigner amongst them.

snip


Same here except my dad drank and smoked himself into a stroke at 83.


83 is still a reasonable innings if he had reasonable health up until
then. I'd be happy with that as long as I was in good health and able to
do all that I wanted to do without limitations.


He was good until about 75 but I could not get him to stop smoking.

His wife or kids might just try to auction off the cars.

He didn't have any kids and his wife is at a loss right now just what
to do. Money isn't a problem for her in the short and long term as
share dividends will see to that. More of an issue is her remote
location and inability to drive a car. Her home is in the hills
outside the urban limits with limited public transport options.


She can't drive? What is up with that? Sounds like a 1920's kind of
problem.


More common here amongst older women than you would realise. Younger
generation women all seem to drive these days.


True. My aunt just died this year just short of 90 and never in all
those years got behind the wheel of a car. Why have one when the market
and most of your friends are only a block or two walk? My youngest
daughter is 30 and still can't drive a stick, a rapidly vanishing
ability among drivers.

Anyway, the cars are all in bits. There was only one person who knew
how they all went together and he's gone. It would take weeks to just
find everything. In my brief visit to the workshop, I saw bits
scattered all over. Interestingly, he had been working on converting
the engine bearings to full pressure fed lubrication. He'd drilled
the crank and was in the process of building a larger oil pump to
supply the extra requirements. He even had a new sump and pan cast to
provide the extra room for the pump. He had been talking about doing
this but I hadn't realised he was as far along as he was. I did say
his restorations were "unconventional", didn't I?


In other words, you or I or any car nut would be in heaven just trying
to find parts to match to the cars. Found a manifold, must be for that
one, radiator must go there, etc. Then the cars would get worked on as
I found the parts.
Damn, am I dreaming.


Nah, I'd only see their potential as a rod. But then, I prefer fifties
and sixties era cars. They were what I grew up with.


Me too but I would happily be seen in a 1931 Dusenberg model SJ.

Nobody under 40 seems to give a crap about cars anymore.

Yep. I don't know what will happen to my garage full of rods when I
drop off the perch. None of my kids are mechanically inclined, the
grandkids are more interested in partying and hooning.


Damn. I wasn't even allowed to drive my first car (with a legal
permit) until I could convince my dad I could change a tire, diagnose
a no spark or bad fuel pump, and fill every last one of my fluids.
Only then did I get to go anywhere. My daughter, BTW, could care less
about anything mechanical, so I don't know who to give the car too.
Maybe I'll be buried in it like that rich woman was in her Ferrari. I
have one grandson who might want it, I hope.


Waste of a good car. Don't think I could ever do that! Might leave them
out of my will and let the family fight over them. That'll sort out who
really wants them.


A friend of mine died about 20 years ago and the family totally self
destructed suing each other over a half acre and a useless, really old
house. They spent more on lawyer fees than the property was ever worth.
Yeah, leaving a will is definitely the way to go.


Guess the great grandkids
are my only hope. Would hate to see the rods get sold off. Don't want
to risk using them, don't want to risk losing them. What a conundrum!


I have that too. I am still looking for a 1962 to 1964 Ford Falcon to
mileage up.


You could've bought mine from me ... in 73


Dang.


He will be missed whether I knew him or not.

Bill Baka

Sure will be missed around here. Used to have long phone calls about
his projects. Sometimes an hour, sometimes 2 but always interesting.
Miss them already.

Krypsis


I guess I'm getting to where friends will start going. Lost 3 in three
years.
Sigh
Bill Baka


When I was in my teens and twenties, a lot of my friends died in car
wrecks.


Same here, cars, motorcycles, and drug overdoses. (1970's).
Now it's the years of smoking catching up to them. All of the new dead
friends smoked and/or drank.

Now I'm in my seventies my friends are all dying of more natural
causes. Most of my friends from the teen years are gone already as they
were ten and twenty years older than me then. I was the youngster of the
group. Guess I'm used to seeing friends depart this life. Trouble is, a
lot of the departures these days are friends younger than me!


I have had that too. Even John Ritter was a few months younger than me.

Krypsis

Jagger may have been right. Getting old is a drag.

Bill Baka

Feel free to snip as this is getting long.

D. Peter Maus December 1st 09 04:38 AM

Shortwave for cars
 
On 11/30/09 19:20 , Bill Baka wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 11/30/09 03:06 , Bill Baka wrote:
I have you beat by about 4 or 5 times as many cars over the years.
My favorite for quiet running was a 1948 Studebaker at 65 in overdrive.
Flat head again so no notice able engine noise.
I miss Detroit iron.

Bill Baka


Um...that '48 would be South Bend Steel.

Or Los Angeles.



OK,
Close but no cigar.
The fun thing about the Studebaker and the 1961 Rambler was that a
friend was actually leaning on the Rambler and asked to hear it run.
He almost fell over when I said it was running. I replaced the generator
with an alternator, breaker-less ignition, and super quiet mufflers. The
Rambler was about as stripped down as I have ever seen an American car
and the Studebaker was an example of how good American cars could be.
Bill Baka


I've had three, myself. No argument there.



[email protected] December 1st 09 05:20 AM

Shortwave for cars
 
Suzuki begins construction of E-CO car plant in Thailand.
www.wardsauto.com

Do you solo Suzuki?

Yawnnnnn,,,, move over doggy, wayyyyy past my bedtime.
///don't forget to set that garbage can out front for the garbage truck
in the morning!///

You wants a cookie?
///WOO WOO WOOF!///
cuhulin


Geary Morton December 1st 09 06:44 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
In article ,
Bill Baka wrote:

wrote:
I like the 1957 Fords, I once owned a 1957 Ford Thunderbird.


1957 saw Ford make some mistakes, for sure. The Skyliner was a bomb at
the dealers due to the 30 + motors involved. I liked the styling and the
1957 T-bird, the last before it got bloated.
I traded a
1968 Ford Mustang for the Thunderbird in Lawrenceville,Georgia.I have
owned a 1964 Ford Mustang car before, also a 1931 Ford four door Model A
car I bought from a guy in Liberal,Kansas back in the 1970s.I have owned
a 1939 Ford fastback car and a 1948 Chevrolet pickup truck too.I traded
that pickup truck to an old buddy for some collectible folding money and
some collectible silver coins.I still have that money here, in my box at
the bank.I have owned a lot of vehicles over the past years.
cuhulin

I have you beat by about 4 or 5 times as many cars over the years.
My favorite for quiet running was a 1948 Studebaker at 65 in overdrive.
Flat head again so no notice able engine noise.
I miss Detroit iron.

Bill Baka


That was SOUTH BEND iron!

Jim[_7_] December 1st 09 11:42 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Get a Sony 7600 and a 2m mag mount. Use the 2m antenna and input it
to the 7600 external antenna jack. You can power the radio via
cigarette lighter and output audio into your FM radio or Tape player.
Full coverage, better receiver. The longer the 2m whip the better.




On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:55:05 -0800, Bill Baka
wrote:

Has anyone seen any shortwave radios in cars lately? I remember a few
from across the pond back in the 60's but it seems to have died out as a
fad. I would like to put one in one of my cars rather than a boom box
thing and be able to tune the world from wherever I find myself.
The other advantage is that I can drive to a spot with no power lines
for miles at night to listen relatively static free. I could (in theory)
take a long wire on a fishing pole (28-32AWG?) and put on a disposable
weight and toss it as far as possible into some high trees. Once it is
stuck firmly just back the car up until the whole spool is used up and
connect the car antenna to it.
Anybody tried it or anything like it?

Bill Baka



dave December 2nd 09 02:01 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
wrote:
WOWO, Fort Wayne.
www.wowo.com
cuhulin


Fort WHERE?

[email protected] December 2nd 09 11:25 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Fort Wayne,Indiana,U.S.A.that's where.
I lived a year in Martinsville,Indiana, U.S.A. in 1947.

What do you say about Martinsville,Indiana, U.S.A.?
All American Cities and Towns.
www.martinsville.in.gov
cuhulin


Bill Baka December 3rd 09 06:29 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Jim wrote:
Get a Sony 7600 and a 2m mag mount. Use the 2m antenna and input it
to the 7600 external antenna jack. You can power the radio via
cigarette lighter and output audio into your FM radio or Tape player.
Full coverage, better receiver. The longer the 2m whip the better.

This is one of many that have been suggested. 2m itself is almost
non-existent around here so I am looking at D.C. to 30 MHz. An F.M.
detector on the under 30 MHz would be nice too.
So far I have seen Sony, Drake, and a slew of others so now it becomes
decision time. A unit that I could bring inside would be nice too.
I think this will be a cigarette lighter portable with a magnetic
antenna on top. That should be good for car DX'ing and even might be a
carry along on my bicycle in one of the rear racks. It would have to
bear the indignity of being wrapped in a plastic bag to seal out dirt
and then a towel to dampen vibration. I bicycle places that even a 4
wheel drive can't get to.
Sitting near a babbling brook and daytime DX'ing would not be a bad way
to spend the day.

Bill Baka

Drifter December 3rd 09 07:59 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Bill Baka wrote:
Jim wrote:
Get a Sony 7600 and a 2m mag mount. Use the 2m antenna and input it
to the 7600 external antenna jack. You can power the radio via
cigarette lighter and output audio into your FM radio or Tape player.
Full coverage, better receiver. The longer the 2m whip the better.

This is one of many that have been suggested. 2m itself is almost
non-existent around here so I am looking at D.C. to 30 MHz. An F.M.
detector on the under 30 MHz would be nice too.
So far I have seen Sony, Drake, and a slew of others so now it becomes
decision time. A unit that I could bring inside would be nice too.
I think this will be a cigarette lighter portable with a magnetic
antenna on top. That should be good for car DX'ing and even might be a
carry along on my bicycle in one of the rear racks. It would have to
bear the indignity of being wrapped in a plastic bag to seal out dirt
and then a towel to dampen vibration. I bicycle places that even a 4
wheel drive can't get to.
Sitting near a babbling brook and daytime DX'ing would not be a bad way
to spend the day.

Bill Baka


Bill. Good choice. got one here, about 5 years. it goes in the
suite case, coat pocket, glove box, everywhere. been dropped a
number of times. just a few small hair-line cracks. works great.
only trouble i have had is a tight antenna. little wd-40 fixed
it right up. even tho i miss an old type tuning knob, i'm
well pleased with mine. i believe there may even be a yahoo
group for this model. seems like there is a yahoo group for
everything. enjoy.

Drifter...

Geoffrey S. Mendelson[_2_] December 3rd 09 08:24 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Bill Baka wrote:
This is one of many that have been suggested. 2m itself is almost
non-existent around here so I am looking at D.C. to 30 MHz. An F.M.
detector on the under 30 MHz would be nice too.


Ok, why? There are several things that could be heard if you had HF FM, but
how many of them exist or can be heard in your area?

1. 10m FM (very rare)
2. CB FM (or freeband modifed CB's) illegal in most places, and
because of the poor efficency, probably not used in favor of SSB.
3. Station to station relay links (in the US). Are they still used?
4. 29mHz cordless phones. Do any still exist?


So far I have seen Sony, Drake, and a slew of others so now it becomes
decision time. A unit that I could bring inside would be nice too.
I think this will be a cigarette lighter portable with a magnetic
antenna on top. That should be good for car DX'ing and even might be a
carry along on my bicycle in one of the rear racks. It would have to
bear the indignity of being wrapped in a plastic bag to seal out dirt
and then a towel to dampen vibration. I bicycle places that even a 4
wheel drive can't get to.
Sitting near a babbling brook and daytime DX'ing would not be a bad way
to spend the day.


A Sony ICF-2010 or SW-77 would be a good compromise. Good performance,
sync detector, SSB/CW detection, and if you end up on a flight path, VHF
air coverage.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

Brenda Ann[_2_] December 3rd 09 10:13 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
4. 29mHz cordless phones. Do any still exist?



I don't remember any cordless at 29 MHz. As I recall, the first cordless
were 1.8/49 MHz (you could buy antenna kits with a long wire for base
transmit. We could get around a 4-5 block range with those). Second
generation went to 46/49 MHz, and could be heard on many cheap baby
monitors.



[email protected] December 3rd 09 10:45 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Jim, at nospam dot com said what I was going to say from the very
start.But, howsomever, it wasen't meself whom threw this thread off
topic,,, or was it?
cuhulin


Geoffrey S. Mendelson[_2_] December 3rd 09 11:34 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Brenda Ann wrote:

I don't remember any cordless at 29 MHz. As I recall, the first cordless
were 1.8/49 MHz (you could buy antenna kits with a long wire for base
transmit. We could get around a 4-5 block range with those). Second
generation went to 46/49 MHz, and could be heard on many cheap baby
monitors.


They did exist. I remember finding one on my Kenwood R-5000. They were
in that small spread between 29.7 mHz (the end of the 10m ham band) and 30mHz.

I found it listening for 10m FM activity.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

Bill Baka December 4th 09 12:50 AM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Bill Baka wrote:
This is one of many that have been suggested. 2m itself is almost
non-existent around here so I am looking at D.C. to 30 MHz. An F.M.
detector on the under 30 MHz would be nice too.


Ok, why? There are several things that could be heard if you had HF FM, but
how many of them exist or can be heard in your area?

1. 10m FM (very rare)

Agreed.
2. CB FM (or freeband modifed CB's) illegal in most places, and
because of the poor efficency, probably not used in favor of SSB.

They were selling them here, illegally of course, but I know/knew the
guy who was selling them.
3. Station to station relay links (in the US). Are they still used?

At 144 MHz maybe. We do have repeaters here on the mountaintops.
4. 29mHz cordless phones. Do any still exist?

Doubtful.


So far I have seen Sony, Drake, and a slew of others so now it becomes
decision time. A unit that I could bring inside would be nice too.
I think this will be a cigarette lighter portable with a magnetic
antenna on top. That should be good for car DX'ing and even might be a
carry along on my bicycle in one of the rear racks. It would have to
bear the indignity of being wrapped in a plastic bag to seal out dirt
and then a towel to dampen vibration. I bicycle places that even a 4
wheel drive can't get to.
Sitting near a babbling brook and daytime DX'ing would not be a bad way
to spend the day.


A Sony ICF-2010 or SW-77 would be a good compromise. Good performance,
sync detector, SSB/CW detection, and if you end up on a flight path, VHF
air coverage.

Geoff.

I'm actually under the landing path for Sacramento International so I
pick up a lot of jumbo jet chatter going over my head on my old 1974
RDF. Sometimes I get the tower. This is all going to a big pile of files
in a directory (not folder) of it's own.
Thanks,

Bill Baka


Krypsis[_2_] December 4th 09 08:40 AM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Bob Dobbs wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
4. 29mHz cordless phones. Do any still exist?


Did they ever?
I remember early cordless phones were around 1600 - 1700 kcs,
then they went to 46/49Mcs, then 900Mcs, 2.4Gigs, etc.

Still got a pair of the 900's here. Just put new batteries in them the
other week and intend to keep them operational as long as they keep working.

Krypsis


dave December 4th 09 12:45 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
Drifter wrote:
Bill Baka wrote:
Jim wrote:
Get a Sony 7600 and a 2m mag mount. Use the 2m antenna and input it
to the 7600 external antenna jack. You can power the radio via
cigarette lighter and output audio into your FM radio or Tape player.
Full coverage, better receiver. The longer the 2m whip the better.

This is one of many that have been suggested. 2m itself is almost
non-existent around here so I am looking at D.C. to 30 MHz. An F.M.
detector on the under 30 MHz would be nice too.
So far I have seen Sony, Drake, and a slew of others so now it becomes
decision time. A unit that I could bring inside would be nice too.
I think this will be a cigarette lighter portable with a magnetic
antenna on top. That should be good for car DX'ing and even might be a
carry along on my bicycle in one of the rear racks. It would have to
bear the indignity of being wrapped in a plastic bag to seal out dirt
and then a towel to dampen vibration. I bicycle places that even a 4
wheel drive can't get to.
Sitting near a babbling brook and daytime DX'ing would not be a bad
way to spend the day.

Bill Baka


Bill. Good choice. got one here, about 5 years. it goes in the
suite case, coat pocket, glove box, everywhere. been dropped a
number of times. just a few small hair-line cracks. works great.
only trouble i have had is a tight antenna. little wd-40 fixed
it right up. even tho i miss an old type tuning knob, i'm
well pleased with mine. i believe there may even be a yahoo
group for this model. seems like there is a yahoo group for
everything. enjoy.

Drifter...


Sangean ATS-606A is my miniature of choice. Very sensitive with
built-in whip, but also has an EXT ANT input. Dual Conversion.

http://www.rigpix.com/sangean/sangean_ats606a.htm


Drifter December 4th 09 01:13 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
dave wrote:
Drifter wrote:
Bill Baka wrote:
Jim wrote:


Sangean ATS-606A is my miniature of choice. Very sensitive with
built-in whip, but also has an EXT ANT input. Dual Conversion.

http://www.rigpix.com/sangean/sangean_ats606a.htm


Very cool Dave. got 2 of the shack versions. one new in the box
in the collection. the other sits on my coffee table. just in
case i need to check something local on the MW band. i did manage
to crack the plastic where the antenna exits on the back. little
dab of super glue. batteries last almost forever. this one came
used, in the box at a hamfest. $25.00, couldn't pass that up.

Drifter...

[email protected] December 4th 09 02:26 PM

Shortwave for cars?
 
I used to listen to a phone next door with my scanner radio.Sometimes
the conversation over there was ''Juicy''!
cuhulin


dave December 4th 09 03:09 PM

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Bob Dobbs wrote:


Still got a pair of the 900's here. Just put new batteries in them the
other week and intend to keep them operational as long as they keep working.

Krypsis


I got a 900Mcs spread spectrum unit quite awhile ago
when they were the latest greatest and at the expiry of it initial battery
to take and hold a charge I decided to use that as an excuse to try one of the
2.4Gigs that had only been out for a few years or so. At the initial evaluation
test the old 900 still had better range and was quieter, albeit for a reduced
period of time, so the 2.4 went back and I tried a 5.4 which the 900 also beat
and it got returned. At that point I just got a new battery for the Southwestern
Bell Freedom Phone 900 MHz and it's been going great ever since and will
probably get another battery whenever it needs it. Maybe I need to get a spare
now if/while they're still available.

We're up to DECT 6.0 here, as 2.4 GHz phones interfere with the WiFi.
Uniden sells the phones for almost nothing.

Krypsis[_2_] December 4th 09 03:11 PM

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Bob Dobbs wrote:
Krypsis wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
4. 29mHz cordless phones. Do any still exist?
Did they ever?
I remember early cordless phones were around 1600 - 1700 kcs,
then they went to 46/49Mcs, then 900Mcs, 2.4Gigs, etc.

Still got a pair of the 900's here. Just put new batteries in them the
other week and intend to keep them operational as long as they keep working.

Krypsis


I got a 900Mcs spread spectrum unit quite awhile ago
when they were the latest greatest and at the expiry of it initial battery
to take and hold a charge I decided to use that as an excuse to try one of the
2.4Gigs that had only been out for a few years or so. At the initial evaluation
test the old 900 still had better range and was quieter, albeit for a reduced
period of time, so the 2.4 went back and I tried a 5.4 which the 900 also beat


Mine gets to be a pain sometimes as it gets very hissy depending on
where in my house I use it. It doesn't like areas of my backyard either.
I put up with it however as I have workarounds.

and it got returned. At that point I just got a new battery for the Southwestern
Bell Freedom Phone 900 MHz and it's been going great ever since and will
probably get another battery whenever it needs it. Maybe I need to get a spare
now if/while they're still available.

I don't think my model is available any more, even as spare parts. I
bought it when the digital phones were becoming all the rage. Didn't
need the fancy features that digital offered, just wanted something I
could talk into. I think, from memory, that all that was available that
was non-digital was the this one, a Uniden XS916, and a couple of other
brands. They were becoming thin on the ground even then.

Here are its specs;

* 900MHz SCR Technology (Sound Clarity and Range)
* Includes Additional Handset and Charge Cradle
* Alpha Display Caller ID
* POP ID
* Caller Name Identification
* 30 Caller ID Memories
* 3 Line Back Lit LCD Dot Matrix Display
* Alpha Memory Dialing
* Super Chat Battery
* 10 Hours Talk Time
* Maxi-Sound
* Extra Loud Handset Volume Control
* Rocket Dial One Touch Speed Dial
* 2 Weeks Standby Time
* Call Transfer Handset to Handset
* 10 Speed Dial Memory Locations on Each Handset
* Page/Find Handset Feature - Flash Button (Call Waiting Compatible)
* 2 Step Ringer Volume Control
* Hearing Aid Compatible
* Belt Clip Included Talk Time: 10 Hours
* Standby Time: 2 Weeks
* Battery Capacity: DC 3.6V, 800mAH
* Wall/Desk Mountable
* Dimensions: 230mm (H) X 130mm (W) X 92mm (D), Additional Handset:
220mm (H) X 90mm (W) X 100mm (D)


I see a couple on EBay. Might just bid on one and get a spare remote
handset and cradle. I need one for my study. I'm assuming that the base
can accommodate a second remote handset and cradle. I see one on EBay
that looks pristine. Everybody wants the new stuff so I probably get it
for less than the postage costs.

Krypsis

Bill Baka December 4th 09 04:38 PM

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dave wrote:
Drifter wrote:
Bill Baka wrote:
Jim wrote:
Get a Sony 7600 and a 2m mag mount. Use the 2m antenna and input it
to the 7600 external antenna jack. You can power the radio via
cigarette lighter and output audio into your FM radio or Tape player.
Full coverage, better receiver. The longer the 2m whip the better.

This is one of many that have been suggested. 2m itself is almost
non-existent around here so I am looking at D.C. to 30 MHz. An F.M.
detector on the under 30 MHz would be nice too.
So far I have seen Sony, Drake, and a slew of others so now it
becomes decision time. A unit that I could bring inside would be nice
too.
I think this will be a cigarette lighter portable with a magnetic
antenna on top. That should be good for car DX'ing and even might be
a carry along on my bicycle in one of the rear racks. It would have
to bear the indignity of being wrapped in a plastic bag to seal out
dirt and then a towel to dampen vibration. I bicycle places that even
a 4 wheel drive can't get to.
Sitting near a babbling brook and daytime DX'ing would not be a bad
way to spend the day.

Bill Baka


Bill. Good choice. got one here, about 5 years. it goes in the
suite case, coat pocket, glove box, everywhere. been dropped a
number of times. just a few small hair-line cracks. works great.
only trouble i have had is a tight antenna. little wd-40 fixed
it right up. even tho i miss an old type tuning knob, i'm
well pleased with mine. i believe there may even be a yahoo
group for this model. seems like there is a yahoo group for
everything. enjoy.

Drifter...


Sangean ATS-606A is my miniature of choice. Very sensitive with
built-in whip, but also has an EXT ANT input. Dual Conversion.

http://www.rigpix.com/sangean/sangean_ats606a.htm

OK, The Sangean looks good too. I was hoping for something with a noise
blanker and a few more features, unless they are under the main menu.
Thanks,
That's another bookmark.
Bill Baka

Geoffrey S. Mendelson[_2_] December 5th 09 03:34 PM

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Bob Dobbs wrote:

I might have to do an eval on one of them
instead of maintaining the relic I now use.


They are pretty good, and you can get lots of features. Sometimes they are
disabled on the the cheap ones, which IMHO stinks. I bought 4 of them
(2 sets of 2 cheaply) after checking out the exact model's English instruction
manual which I downloaded from the UK.

It said that you could register a handset with up to 4 base stations and then
have them automaticaly roam to the strongest one, like a mini cell network.

When I got them, the Hebrew instructions said the same thing, but the function
was disabled in the phones. It's not much of a problem because the one base
station covers all the area I need, and you have to force a handset to
register, so I use the extra base as a dumb charger.

If you have a cell phone and a computer, you can even buy a DECT phone
with Bluetooth, so not only will it share you headsets, but you can download
the phone directory from the cell phone and then upload it to the DECT phone.

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

[email protected] December 5th 09 04:36 PM

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Shop Life Style catalog (I have one of those old catalogs around here
somewhere, if I haven't thrown it out already) used to advertize
wireless land line phones that have a range of up to five miles.And
several handsets were available too.
cuhulin


Geoffrey S. Mendelson[_2_] December 5th 09 05:29 PM

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Bob Dobbs wrote:

Yes, a voting cell system would provide more seamless coverage, provided the
bases can communicate between themselves and don't compete with each other.
By "registering a handset" do you mean placing it in the receiver bay
and letting it initialize/handshake, or is there a more elaborate procedure?


You have to hold down the locate button on the bottom of the base station
(what a wonderful place for it), and after about 10 seconds it goes into
registration mode. Then you can register a handset to it.

If I remember correctly, you also have to deregister the base station from the
handset first.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

dave December 5th 09 07:02 PM

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:

I might have to do an eval on one of them
instead of maintaining the relic I now use.


They are pretty good, and you can get lots of features. Sometimes they are
disabled on the the cheap ones, which IMHO stinks. I bought 4 of them
(2 sets of 2 cheaply) after checking out the exact model's English instruction
manual which I downloaded from the UK.

It said that you could register a handset with up to 4 base stations and then
have them automaticaly roam to the strongest one, like a mini cell network.

When I got them, the Hebrew instructions said the same thing, but the function
was disabled in the phones. It's not much of a problem because the one base
station covers all the area I need, and you have to force a handset to
register, so I use the extra base as a dumb charger.

If you have a cell phone and a computer, you can even buy a DECT phone
with Bluetooth, so not only will it share you headsets, but you can download
the phone directory from the cell phone and then upload it to the DECT phone.

Geoff.


I get the refurbs from Fort Worth. Uniden is a small company and still
human.

http://www.unidendirect.com/itemdeta...2080-3&tabid=1

dave December 5th 09 07:18 PM

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Bob Dobbs wrote:

Yes, a voting cell system would provide more seamless coverage, provided the
bases can communicate between themselves and don't compete with each other.
By "registering a handset" do you mean placing it in the receiver bay
and letting it initialize/handshake, or is there a more elaborate procedure?


You have to hold down the locate button on the bottom of the base station
(what a wonderful place for it), and after about 10 seconds it goes into
registration mode. Then you can register a handset to it.

If I remember correctly, you also have to deregister the base station from the
handset first.

Geoff.


My Unidens don't require any intervention. The remotes re-synch
automatically whenever placed in a charger base.

Geoffrey S. Mendelson[_2_] December 5th 09 07:54 PM

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dave wrote:
My Unidens don't require any intervention. The remotes re-synch
automatically whenever placed in a charger base.


There is a difference between syncing, and registration. Registration is need
for a handset to use a base station. Unless you unregister the handset from
the base and deregister the base from the handset, it will stay registered.

Very early DECT phones (around 3 years ago) would always register automaticaly
when inserted in a base station, dropping off the #1 if the limit of 4 was
reached.

Geoff.




--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

dave December 5th 09 08:01 PM

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
dave wrote:
My Unidens don't require any intervention. The remotes re-synch
automatically whenever placed in a charger base.


There is a difference between syncing, and registration. Registration is need
for a handset to use a base station. Unless you unregister the handset from
the base and deregister the base from the handset, it will stay registered.

Very early DECT phones (around 3 years ago) would always register automaticaly
when inserted in a base station, dropping off the #1 if the limit of 4 was
reached.

Geoff.




That sounds like what I have. I just use 2 of them. They were 30
dollars or so total from Uniden Direct. Otherwise I have to have my
V-Tech 2.4 gig base station in the garage to keep from interrupting the
WiFi.

Most people around here are dropping their twisted pairs for Time-Warner
IP phones. I like my DSL. It's rock steady.


SlowStroke December 13th 09 07:29 AM

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On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:02:48 -0800, dave wrote:


I get the refurbs from Fort Worth. Uniden is a small company and still
human.


Is that the model you got?
http://tinyurl.com/y87u9o3


dave December 13th 09 12:50 PM

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SlowStroke wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:02:48 -0800, dave wrote:


I get the refurbs from Fort Worth. Uniden is a small company and still
human.


Is that the model you got?
http://tinyurl.com/y87u9o3


Negatory. I don't have an answering machine.


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