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radiodavid November 30th 09 09:56 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Allaccess, a highly regarded broadcast website, reports...

"Internet talk show host HAL TURNER, facing charges of making
terrorist threats against three federal judges in CHICAGO, has claimed
that he was set up and was really working as an undercover agent for
the FBI; now the BERGEN RECORD reports that its investigation has
turned up evidence confirming that TURNER was indeed working for the
FBI.
The paper's MIKE KELLY and PETER J. SAMPSON report that TURNER was
spying on his own right wing extremist followers under the code name
"Valhalla". At one point, the paper says, the agency sent TURNER to
BRAZIL to report on a plot to send non-military supplies to Iraqi
"resistance fighters" battling American troops. An FBI memo obtained
by the RECORD says that TURNER "has proven highly reliable and is in a
unique position to provide vital information on multiple subversive
domestic organizations ... (his) statistical accomplishments include
over 100 subjects identified, over 10 acts of violence prevented and
multiple subjects arrested."


Douche Bag December 1st 09 03:56 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
On Nov 30, 4:56*pm, radiodavid wrote:
Allaccess, a highly regarded broadcast website, reports...

"Internet talk show host HAL TURNER, facing charges of making
terrorist threats against three federal judges in CHICAGO, has claimed
that he was set up and was really working as an undercover agent for
the FBI; now the BERGEN RECORD reports that its investigation has
turned up evidence confirming that TURNER was indeed working for the
FBI.
The paper's MIKE KELLY and PETER J. SAMPSON report that TURNER was
spying on his own right wing extremist followers under the code name
"Valhalla". At one point, the paper says, the agency sent TURNER to
BRAZIL to report on a plot to send non-military supplies to Iraqi
"resistance fighters" battling American troops. An FBI memo obtained
by the RECORD says that TURNER "has proven highly reliable and is in a
unique position to provide vital information on multiple subversive
domestic organizations ... (his) statistical accomplishments include
over 100 subjects identified, over 10 acts of violence prevented and
multiple subjects arrested."


He was an informant! Not an agent.Big difference. You idiot.

Kevin Alfred Strom December 10th 09 06:48 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
radiodavid wrote:
[...]
[T]he BERGEN RECORD reports that its investigation has
turned up evidence confirming that TURNER was indeed working for the
FBI.

The paper's MIKE KELLY and PETER J. SAMPSON report that TURNER was
spying on his own right wing extremist followers under the code name
"Valhalla".

[...]

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crim...for_years.html


Interesting, isn't it, that arguably the worst and most
stereotypically nasty, foul-mouthed, and crime-encouraging figure on
the "racial right" turns out to have been almost entirely a bought
and paid for creature of the regime in Washington.

When I investigated the blowhard rhetoric -- and utterly fictional
manufactured "news" items -- that Hal Turner turned out, it became
obvious to me that there was something phony about the man. At that
point, I encouraged all responsible European-American activists to
keep many miles between Turner and themselves and to scrupulously
avoid giving him any publicity.

So far as I am concerned, such financing and running of phony
leaders and organizations by the Washington regime is utterly
illegal and unconstitutional. Such acts poison the free and open
political discourse that is supposed to characterize self-government.


With all good wishes,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

D. Peter Maus December 10th 09 07:08 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
On 12/10/09 12:48 , Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
radiodavid wrote:
[...]
[T]he BERGEN RECORD reports that its investigation has
turned up evidence confirming that TURNER was indeed working for the
FBI.
The paper's MIKE KELLY and PETER J. SAMPSON report that TURNER was
spying on his own right wing extremist followers under the code name
"Valhalla".

[...]

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crim...for_years.html



Interesting, isn't it, that arguably the worst and most stereotypically
nasty, foul-mouthed, and crime-encouraging figure on the "racial right"
turns out to have been almost entirely a bought and paid for creature of
the regime in Washington.

When I investigated the blowhard rhetoric -- and utterly fictional
manufactured "news" items -- that Hal Turner turned out, it became
obvious to me that there was something phony about the man. At that
point, I encouraged all responsible European-American activists to keep
many miles between Turner and themselves and to scrupulously avoid
giving him any publicity.

So far as I am concerned, such financing and running of phony leaders
and organizations by the Washington regime is utterly illegal and
unconstitutional. Such acts poison the free and open political discourse
that is supposed to characterize self-government.


With all good wishes,


Kevin, WB4AIO.




Not unlike the academic who created as much turmoil here, a few
years ago.

Drifter December 10th 09 08:29 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
radiodavid wrote:
[...]
[T]he BERGEN RECORD reports that its investigation has
turned up evidence confirming that TURNER was indeed working for the
FBI.
The paper's MIKE KELLY and PETER J. SAMPSON report that TURNER was
spying on his own right wing extremist followers under the code name
"Valhalla".

[...]

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crim...for_years.html



Interesting, isn't it, that arguably the worst and most stereotypically
nasty, foul-mouthed, and crime-encouraging figure on the "racial right"
turns out to have been almost entirely a bought and paid for creature of
the regime in Washington.

When I investigated the blowhard rhetoric -- and utterly fictional
manufactured "news" items -- that Hal Turner turned out, it became
obvious to me that there was something phony about the man. At that
point, I encouraged all responsible European-American activists to keep
many miles between Turner and themselves and to scrupulously avoid
giving him any publicity.

So far as I am concerned, such financing and running of phony leaders
and organizations by the Washington regime is utterly illegal and
unconstitutional. Such acts poison the free and open political discourse
that is supposed to characterize self-government.


With all good wishes,


Kevin, WB4AIO.


Welcome back Kevin. I was watching the bru-ha on Turner, i couldn't
help but think of the Sons of A. on the FX network. this years story
ran a Turner type, that in the end, the guys found out he was in bed
with the FBI. so, TV = real life, who'd thunk? and what does that tell
ya about Turners buddy Combs? his type always go for the money.

Drifter...

m II December 10th 09 11:14 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
D. Peter Maus wrote:

Not unlike the academic who created as much turmoil here, a few years
ago.



Acehole did the stirring and did so at every opportunity.

How's the bike? I picked up a used '05 883 Sportster. The rubber
mounting makes a completely new machine out of the species. The thing is
downright civilized compared to the '75 xlh parked next to it.




mike



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D. Peter Maus December 10th 09 11:19 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
On 12/10/09 17:14 , m II wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:

Not unlike the academic who created as much turmoil here, a few years
ago.



Acehole did the stirring and did so at every opportunity.



Actually, that's not exactly the case.



How's the bike? I picked up a used '05 883 Sportster. The rubber
mounting makes a completely new machine out of the species. The thing is
downright civilized compared to the '75 xlh parked next to it.


Bike is fast and smooth in the cold weather. Took it out after
the snowfall, yesterday. Very brisk riding.

As it should be.

Still haven't moved on the Road King, but that will come next
year. Unless PowerMotor Sports makes a deal on that Guzzi California.


heheheheh.


[email protected] December 10th 09 11:23 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Watching WAPT 5:00 PM tv news,,,, A shooting in Times Square.
Today, in Jackson,Mississippi, a child at a learning center (Boys and
Girls Club) was hit by a stray bullet which passed through two walls.

A shooting in Times Square NEW YORK makes instant Worldwide NEWS!

Let somebody in NEW YORK fart, and that makes instant Worldwide NEWS, I
Say BULL****!
cuhulin


m II December 11th 09 04:33 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
D. Peter Maus wrote:

Still haven't moved on the Road King, but that will come next year.
Unless PowerMotor Sports makes a deal on that Guzzi California.


heheheheh.



I like Guzzi. The shaft drive is great. The local Harley shops charge
1100 dollars to replace the rear belts on some models of the Big Twin.
Engineering at it's worst.

The rear wheel has to come out. Then the swing arm. The complete primary
cover also comes off, along with the clutch and primary chain.

It's over a half day labour. The belt is approx. 300 dollars.

I'll bet a lot of owners will be considering their options when trade in
time happens.


mike

D. Peter Maus December 11th 09 01:21 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
On 12/10/09 22:33 , m II wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:

Still haven't moved on the Road King, but that will come next year.
Unless PowerMotor Sports makes a deal on that Guzzi California.


heheheheh.



I like Guzzi. The shaft drive is great. The local Harley shops charge
1100 dollars to replace the rear belts on some models of the Big Twin.
Engineering at it's worst.

The rear wheel has to come out. Then the swing arm. The complete primary
cover also comes off, along with the clutch and primary chain.

It's over a half day labour. The belt is approx. 300 dollars.

I'll bet a lot of owners will be considering their options when trade in
time happens.


mike



I deal with the factory shop in Milwaukee. They've been saying
since the belt first appeared that they don't even stock it because
breakages are so rare.

Are you seeing belt problems?




[email protected] December 11th 09 03:11 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Shaft drive Bicycles too.I once read a book about Bicycles in World War
Two.Check your libraries for the book.

www.thenewspaper.com

Don't get a traffic ticket in Indianapolis! Those commies will fine you
$2500 if you challenge that traffic ticket.

Commercial on Super Talk Mississippi radio www.supertalkms.com
right now, O' O' O' O'Reillyyyyyyyy's,,,,,
There is an O'Reilly's auto parts store on Ellis Ave, about two miles
East behind doggy's couch.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 11th 09 06:18 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Girl shot at Boys & Girls Club in South Jackson.
Child dies in house fire.
www.clarionledger.com

That news will Never make Instant Worldwide NEWS because podunk
backwater hick town Jackson,Mississippi U.S.A. isn't Center of the World
New York City, or Paris, or London, or Rome, and I Am Damn GLAD it
Isin't.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 12th 09 03:24 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
I have been reading Stratfor.com for over ten years.Does that make me
Cool, or what?
That married Irish woman wayyyyyyyy over yonder acrossit the big pond
would most likely say,,, I don't know about cool, but you sure so have
the Cheek!

www.stratfor.com/letters_to_stratfor

Hey, Con Air is on the TNT channel.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 12th 09 03:49 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Milwaukee, you say?

www.devilfinder.com
Milwaukee Tools Factories in Mississippi

There is a community/town in Mississippi by the name of Milwaukee.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 12th 09 07:46 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
www.devilfinder.com
PACCAR Columbus Mississippi

Many, many years ago, Southerners moved up North to work in factories.A
LOT of Yankee's ancestors are Southerners.Mississippi is creating Jobs
and Factories.So, what is wrong with that?


www.devilfinder.com
Mississippi Song
cuhulin


dave December 12th 09 09:00 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
wrote:
www.devilfinder.com
PACCAR Columbus Mississippi

Many, many years ago, Southerners moved up North to work in factories.A
LOT of Yankee's ancestors are Southerners.Mississippi is creating Jobs
and Factories.So, what is wrong with that?


www.devilfinder.com
Mississippi Song
cuhulin


Aside from the lack of topography and the malarial climate, I have
nothing against the great state of Mississippi.

[email protected] December 12th 09 09:25 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
I think the tallest/highest hill in malarial climate (malarial climate
Mississippi, what is that? It is cold weather outside and it is also
raining, suppose to get up to about 72 degrees next Monday.
www.wxusa.com/wx1/Jackson-MS.htm ) Mississippi is only about 800
something feet tall/high.I haven't been to that hill, but I think that
hill is more than tall/high enough to suit me.

I recently read somewhere that the mosquitos in America have built up a
defense against mosquito insecticides.
Don't forget, there are a lot of mosquitos in California too, in fact,
all over America.
cuhulin, in malarial climate Mississippi


m II December 13th 09 12:23 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
dave wrote:

Aside from the lack of topography and the malarial climate, I have
nothing against the great state of Mississippi.



Phil Ochs makes up for that.


mike



--
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
/ /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /\ / /
/ /\ \/ /\'Think tanks cleaned cheap' /\ \/ /
/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/

Densa International©
For the OTHER two percent.



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I block all postings with a Gmail, Google Mail,
Google Groups or HOTMAIL address.
I also filter everything from a .cn server.


For solutions which may work for you, please check:

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Brenda Ann[_2_] December 13th 09 12:51 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 

"m II" wrote in message ...
dave wrote:

Aside from the lack of topography and the malarial climate, I have
nothing against the great state of Mississippi.



Phil Ochs makes up for that.


mike

"But it really wouldn't interest anybody, outside of a small circle of
friends."



[email protected] December 13th 09 12:58 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Watching, How It's Made on the SCI tv channel, I just now saw this tv
commercial, www.alliedelect.com

Check it out.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 13th 09 01:01 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Who is Phil Ochs?
Everybody likes to beat up on pomouth backwater hick Mississippi.
It doesn't worry me though, I am staying right here.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 13th 09 01:10 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Y'all don't know it, and I am not a poet, but a lot of new construction
and also remodeling of some old buildings has been going on in down town
Jackson,,, and it is still going on now.Jobs.

www.devilfinder.com
Riverwalk Project The Clarion Ledger

Doggy and I (actually, she is sleeping under the electric blanket on her
couch, that dog sure does Snore! sometimes) have to watch The Mouse That
Roared on the TCM channel now.
cuhulin


m II December 13th 09 04:14 AM

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Brenda Ann wrote:

"But it really wouldn't interest anybody, outside of a small circle of
friends."



Small circle?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lVzK_JR66Q&feature=fvw



But let's not forget where we we

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IFbJU0VWhE

I can hear Wallace spinning in his grave.


mike

m II December 13th 09 05:24 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
D. Peter Maus wrote:

I deal with the factory shop in Milwaukee. They've been saying since
the belt first appeared that they don't even stock it because breakages
are so rare.

Are you seeing belt problems?



Not really. I've only seen one belt lose a few teeth and that was on a
really neglected bike. The rear belts they are changing are being done
on the Harley recommended schedule. HD tried using primary belts a few
years back, with predictable, heat related failures. A totally enclose
primary will do that.

It isn't Harley alone that makes me wonder. It's all engineering staff.
I wandered around a car salvage yard a while back. It's amazing how many
cars make it extremely difficult to get at the timing belt.

On a Ford, the stupid belt was blocked by two other layers of belts and
pulleys. It was more work to get at the thing than the actual change.

A friend's Chev had to have the spark plugs changed. It is a V6, front
wheel drive. You can not get at the three rear plugs without removing
the coil pack first. There are two plastic fuse holder boxes, one on
either side of the engine compartment. The problems only arise when you
actually have to change a fuse.

The two diagonal supporting struts that go to the front of the car block
off access to both covers. They have to be loosened and swung out of the
way.

Just the thing for a dark night fuse change.

The wind shield wiper fluid container is of a flattish design. It is
bolted in tight against the top of the battery and completely covers it.
To me, a battery is a maintenance item and should be accessible. GM
appears to think it's not necessary.

Access to headlight bulbs is also ridiculous. Too many cars make it
extremely difficult to get at the plug in sockets. On my last Toyota,
the battery had to be removed in order to get at the thing. Strangely,
the Toyota used German H4 halogens and Michelin tires. A friend's new VW
tdi has Chinese bulbs.




mike

[email protected] December 13th 09 06:13 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
No timing belts in any of my old vehicles, everything else is easy
enough to get to,,, I Likes my old clunkers!

www.devilfinder.com
Caterpillar Remanufacturing in Mississippi

Watching Rio Bravo on the AMC channel.I al tarred and also sleepy izz,
fixin to cut the light anna hit the sack.Move over doggy, you wants ahh
cookie?
WOO WOO WOOF!
cuhulin


[email protected] December 13th 09 02:28 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Iuka.To the MOON, Alice!

www.devilfinder.com
Rocket Manufacturing Iuka Mississippi

My Rocket is bigger than yours.
cuhulin


D. Peter Maus December 13th 09 03:01 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
On 12/12/09 23:24 , m II wrote:
D. Peter Maus wrote:

I deal with the factory shop in Milwaukee. They've been saying since
the belt first appeared that they don't even stock it because breakages
are so rare.

Are you seeing belt problems?



Not really. I've only seen one belt lose a few teeth and that was on a
really neglected bike. The rear belts they are changing are being done
on the Harley recommended schedule. HD tried using primary belts a few
years back, with predictable, heat related failures. A totally enclose
primary will do that.

It isn't Harley alone that makes me wonder. It's all engineering staff.
I wandered around a car salvage yard a while back. It's amazing how many
cars make it extremely difficult to get at the timing belt.



You should see what it takes to change a belt on a 308. No
wonder they pray at the factory.



On a Ford, the stupid belt was blocked by two other layers of belts and
pulleys. It was more work to get at the thing than the actual change.

A friend's Chev had to have the spark plugs changed. It is a V6, front
wheel drive. You can not get at the three rear plugs without removing
the coil pack first.



Not unlike my V-6 Caravans. I wondered how the engineers expected
techs to get at the rear bank for things like plugs, and auto valve
lash adjusters. Until I watched them at the dealer...they put the
vehicle on a lift. From the rear, below, everything was directly
accessible.

Unlike the Vega. The back plugs were so recessed, they pulled the
engine and tranny to get at the rear two plugs for a tune-up.


There are two plastic fuse holder boxes, one on
either side of the engine compartment. The problems only arise when you
actually have to change a fuse.



The two diagonal supporting struts that go to the front of the car block
off access to both covers. They have to be loosened and swung out of the
way.


My Envoy is like that. But the only thing under the hood are
relays and engine fuses. The general electrics are in two fuse boxes
within the cab.

Now, changing the serpentine belt couldn't be easier. There's a
1/2" drive hole on the tensioner. Plug a breaker bar into the hole,
release the tension, the belt slips off. Put the new belt in place,
pull the bar, again, slip the belt back on the tensioner. Done. 3
minutes.

And the rest of that drive train is as easily accessed.

Nice that it took them so long to 'get it,' but apparently, GM
engineers finally thought about things like serviceability.

The trouble is that when sales are off, the only things that
keeps the retailers alive are the service bays. If they make it too
easy for the owner, they put themselves out of business.





Just the thing for a dark night fuse change.


My Caravans had a light under the hood for night repairs.


The wind shield wiper fluid container is of a flattish design. It is
bolted in tight against the top of the battery and completely covers it.
To me, a battery is a maintenance item and should be accessible. GM
appears to think it's not necessary.



Mostly, it's not. With the way those engines are shoehorned in to
the bay, space for things like washer reservoirs is tight. Most
batteries, today are maintenance free (a misnomer, but let's go with
it for now.) The only time you need to touch one is when there's
something wrong with it, and it needs to be replaced.

Unlike my Studes, I've not touched a battery in a contemporary
car in years. No need. And nothing to be done if there was.



Access to headlight bulbs is also ridiculous. Too many cars make it
extremely difficult to get at the plug in sockets. On my last Toyota,
the battery had to be removed in order to get at the thing. Strangely,
the Toyota used German H4 halogens and Michelin tires. A friend's new VW
tdi has Chinese bulbs.


LOL. Now, there's a difference I've noticed right away. The bulbs
in my Chryslers were commonly available, and accessible, and
replaceable by loosening a retainer ring on the back of the
headlight assembly. Not tools required, or possible. Two minutes I
could replace both headlights.

My Envoy isn't much more difficult than that.

Even my BMW two wheeler is tool free for the headlamp. But that
H4 is a PITA to track down. So, I have to keep them in stock. One at
the house, one in the tool kit on the bike.

Plug, adjust and roll.

But Germans are like that. My 450SE was easy to service. I had to
change a belt wheel. Took the front of the car off to get at it, but
I reassembled it in the dark and didn't have a washer left over. It
only went together the correct way. The 190 SL is like that, too.
And VW Type One is similarly simple. Dr Porsche was a master of
elegant engineering, and if he could have pulled it off, there would
have only been one moving part in the whole drive train. Service was
simple, with common tools.

I'm wondering what the current crop of hybrids is going to be
like to wrench. With fatal voltages floating around, I"m not sure
there's going to be much self-service potential.









mike



[email protected] December 13th 09 03:12 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
California has some Swamps too.All U.S.A. States (Texas is a REPUBLIC)
have some Swamps, also Mosquitos.

www.devilfinder.com
Ingalls Shipbuilding Pascagoula Mississippi

USS Cole, and many other Ships.The first Nuclear powered Submarine built
in the South was built at Ingalls Shipbuilding.Ingalls built some Battle
Ships for England.Nowadays, Ingalls Shipbuilding is part of Northrop
Grumman, still Ingalls Shipbuilding to me!

Backwater hick towns,,, Farm Towns, Ranch Towns, all over
America.Nothing wrong with those Towns.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 13th 09 06:53 PM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
Belt drive cars and little belt drive trucks, DAF Nederlands.
www.devilfinder.com
DAF Cars

Every once in a while, in my snail mail Popular Science magazines
www.popsci.com
and also in my snail mail Popular Mechanics magazines,
www.popularmechanics.com
new articles about new kinds of bicycles, belt drive bicycles and also
new shaft drive bicycles.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 14th 09 04:49 AM

Hal Turner was FBI agent
 
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DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMB
ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSS is now at
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www.worldnetdaily.com

What a piece of foinichure!
MINUS NINETEEN, MINUS NINETEEN, MINUS NINETEEN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
cuhulin



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