HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

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On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob wrote in message
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If HD is really the loser some would have us believe, it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring much beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in the other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely reflect my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some listeners (the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous snivelers on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment. With well into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based" approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places can pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply dismissed the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails so I can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last word and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you should expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days after Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
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On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
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message
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On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob wrote in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us believe, it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous snivelers on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment. With well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails so I can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last word and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days after Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob wrote in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us believe, it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous snivelers on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment. With well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails so I can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last word and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days after Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

King Edward Hotel, among more than $3 billion dollars in projects in
down town Jackson.
www.clarionledger.com (Business section, also, front page stuff)

So, how is your City doing?
cuhulin

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HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob wrote in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us believe, it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous snivelers on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment. With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On 12/18/09 24:04 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob wrote in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us believe, it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous snivelers on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment. With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.



You've not discussed anything meaningful so far, so I think you can
call it a hit.

Larry the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

wrote:
King Edward Hotel, among more than $3 billion dollars in projects in
down town Jackson.
www.clarionledger.com (Business section, also, front page stuff)

So, how is your City doing?
cuhulin


The Walt Disney Co. and ABC Studios filed plans Wednesday to expand
Disney's legendary Golden Oak movie ranch, creating a massive high-tech
soundstage and production complex that would bring more than 2,800 new
full- and part-time jobs to the booming Santa Clarita Valley.

Plans filed with Los Angeles County call for six soundstages, plus
production offices and storage areas for props and costumes, according
to a statement from ABC.

"By connecting the sound stage to an array of opportunities at the movie
ranch, we're creating a synergy," said Richard Ballering, executive
director of production for ABC. "The proposed plan would allow us to
have four established productions and six new ones."

While the estimated cost of the project was not released, officials said
the expansion could generate an additional $1.3 million in annual
revenues for Los Angeles County coffers.

If the project is approved, it would be completed by 2013 at the
earliest, officials said.

The 890-acre Golden Oak Ranch at State Route 14 and Placerita Canyon
Road has been owned by Walt Disney Productions since 1959. Its sets have
been used for movies, television and commercial productions including
"Lassie," "Bonanza," "X-Files" and "Sons of Anarchy."

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_13663809?source=rv

Larry the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

GOOD for Walt Disney Productions and related thingys, I am GLAD.Anything
that is Jobs for Americans in America is Very GOOD.

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Spanish Tities
Butt Splice
Rack-A-Tiers
cuhulin

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
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On 12/18/09 24:04 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
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On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
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On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
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On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob wrote
in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us believe,
it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have
any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely
reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous snivelers
on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for
the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment. With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to
buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with
radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places
can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply
dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you
should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue
meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in
perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.



You've not discussed anything meaningful so far, so I think you can call
it a hit.

Nor have you....yet you continue to post.

But then again, thats what we expect from you.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On 12/18/09 11:57 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 24:04 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob wrote
in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us believe,
it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have
any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely
reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous snivelers
on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for
the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment. With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to
buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with
radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places
can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply
dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you
should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue
meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in
perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.



You've not discussed anything meaningful so far, so I think you can call
it a hit.

Nor have you....yet you continue to post.


Actually, I did. You simply elected not to address it.



But then again, thats what we expect from you.


Said the pot.

Larry the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

wrote:
GOOD for Walt Disney Productions and related thingys, I am GLAD.Anything
that is Jobs for Americans in America is Very GOOD.

http://licensedelectrician.com
Spanish Tities
Butt Splice
Rack-A-Tiers
cuhulin


Show Biz helps the trade defecit.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 11:57 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 24:04 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob
wrote
in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us
believe,
it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have
any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring
much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in
the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely
reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some
listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous
snivelers
on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for
the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment.
With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the
air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to
buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with
radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places
can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply
dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails
so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my
message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last
word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you
should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue
meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in
perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days
after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.



You've not discussed anything meaningful so far, so I think you can
call
it a hit.

Nor have you....yet you continue to post.


Actually, I did. You simply elected not to address it.



But then again, thats what we expect from you.


Said the pot.

to the troll.

Larry the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

dave wrote:
wrote:
GOOD for Walt Disney Productions and related thingys, I am GLAD.Anything
that is Jobs for Americans in America is Very GOOD.

http://licensedelectrician.com
Spanish Tities
Butt Splice
Rack-A-Tiers
cuhulin


Show Biz helps the trade defecit.
deficit

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On 12/18/09 13:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 11:57 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 24:04 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob
wrote
in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us
believe,
it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't have
any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring
much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in
the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely
reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some
listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous
snivelers
on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve for
the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment.
With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the
air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to
buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with
radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most places
can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply
dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox entrails
so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my
message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last
word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you
should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue
meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in
perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days
after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.



You've not discussed anything meaningful so far, so I think you can
call
it a hit.

Nor have you....yet you continue to post.


Actually, I did. You simply elected not to address it.



But then again, thats what we expect from you.


Said the pot.

to the troll.



You appear to have lost relevance some 22 transactions ago. If
you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

Your call.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 13:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 11:57 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 24:04 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob
wrote
in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us
believe,
it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't
have
any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring
much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in
the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely
reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some
listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous
snivelers
on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve
for
the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams
and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep
the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment.
With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace
based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD
Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the
air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to
buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in
radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with
radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most
places
can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the
AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply
dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox
entrails
so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my
message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last
word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you
should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue
meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in
perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days
after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.



You've not discussed anything meaningful so far, so I think you
can
call
it a hit.

Nor have you....yet you continue to post.


Actually, I did. You simply elected not to address it.



But then again, thats what we expect from you.


Said the pot.

to the troll.



You appear to have lost relevance some 22 transactions ago.

Yet, you are still responding. Amazing!

If you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

I addressed your point. You just weren't happy with the way they were
addressed.

Your call.

Pong!

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On 12/18/09 14:13 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
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On 12/18/09 13:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 11:57 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 24:04 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:30 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/17/09 15:22 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 14:41 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 13:03 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in
message
...
On 12/17/09 24:15 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:38 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 14:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/16/09 13:48 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter
wrote
in
message
...
On 12/15/09 17:35 , Brenda Ann wrote:
"Bob
wrote
in
message
news:4b2a08da.2108125@chupacabra...
If HD is really the loser some would have us
believe,
it
will
still
linger
because the stations that already have it won't
have
any
incentive
to
ditch the
gear they've acquired, because it wouldn't bring
much
beyond
scrap
metal
value
in the used market.
Of course whenever I listen to the table radio in
the
other
room
it'll
probably
be an HD station.
...and any listener feedback from me will likely
reflect
my
satisfaction
with
the improvements that technology brings.
So what's a station GM to do, keep what some
listeners
(the
ones
that
respond)
say they like, or listen to a few querulous
snivelers
on
usenet
which
is
known
as a forum for whiners?


Neither. They'll look at the dismal sales curve
for
the
receivers
and
the
near zero Arbitron ratings for their IBOC streams
and
eventually
conclude
that it isn't worth the extra electricity to keep
the
IBOC
running.




There's still the matter of investment.
With
well
into
6
figures
for
a
single station, manglement, investors, and corporate
interests
will
not
simply let it die and go away. Like AM stereo, which
actually
worked,
it
took nearly 20 years to go away.

But, UNlike AM stereo, which had a "marketplace
based"
approach
and
competing standards all on the air at once....HD
Radio
standard
has
been
chosen. There is no battle among the formats on the
air.
Listeners
can
enjoy it from the get go.

With AM Stereo, one had to decide which system to
buy...and
then
could
only
listen to certain stations.

HD learned from that fiasco...and is avoinding the
pitfalls.

The uptake is slow...

So? It's not in a race? Apathy is everywhere in
radio,
satelite,
SW,
AM,
FM, HD. Consumers aren't rushing to do anything with
radio.

the technology is flawed

Debatable.

and the implementation is poor.

Implementation is pretty good! Consumers in most
places
can
pick
up
an
HD
radio and start enjoying it immediately. (Unlike the
AM
Stereo
"marketplace
solution".)

But the investment has been spectacular.

In the scheme of things, not really.



As Mrs Iacocca said: Nice Dodge.


Not a dodge, it was an answer to your points.

No, it wasn't. You answered nothing. You simply
dismissed
the
ancillary
AM Stereo comparisons. And then, deleted the point.

Like I said. Nice dodge.

Not at all...if you open your mind and think a bit.


Oh, yeah,...you're right. I'll get some fox
entrails
so I
can
divine
your meaning. Since you deleted the actual point of my
message,

But then again, your reputation is to always want the last
word
and
argue
meaningless points endlessly, so I should expect it.


When you delete the point and argue the trivia, you
should
expect
to
get
called on it, yes.


When there is no point, and people ignore the diatribe....you
should
expect
to get called on it.

But feel free to try to get in the last word, and argue
meaningless
points
endlessly. ;-)


No, that's your specialty.

Here we go! Your repurtation preceeds you maus.

Run along and go find Telemon to play with.

Either that or find a meaninless thread you canextend in
perpetuity.



Whatever happened to Telamon? He disappeared a few days
after
Eduardo
vanished.

And I thought I was in a meaningless thread.

You are....and looking forward to you extending it's life
forever.....and
ever...



No, only herpes is forever.

We'll see....not bad...a response in under :60 seconds.




I have a fast wireless in the bathroom.

Wouldn't want to keep this thread from dicussing anything meaningful.



You've not discussed anything meaningful so far, so I think you
can
call
it a hit.

Nor have you....yet you continue to post.


Actually, I did. You simply elected not to address it.



But then again, thats what we expect from you.


Said the pot.

to the troll.



You appear to have lost relevance some 22 transactions ago.

Yet, you are still responding. Amazing!


Hey, I can last as long as you can.



If you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

I addressed your point. You just weren't happy with the way they were
addressed.


No, actually you deleted the point. You addressed items that
weren't being argued.

So, again, you want to address the point...we can return this to
a meaningful discussion.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

If you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

I addressed your point. You just weren't happy with the way they were
addressed.


No, actually you deleted the point.

If I deleted it, it was a point that I didn't feel needed addressing.

You addressed items that weren't being argued.

Then why are you responding. Oh, that's right! Your Maus...who has to get
in the last word and argue insigniifcant things ad nauseum....

So, again, you want to address the point...we can return this to a
meaningful discussion.

I addressed the points I felt needed addressing. If you want to continue
this thread to infinity and beyond...it's up to you.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On 12/18/09 14:29 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
If you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

I addressed your point. You just weren't happy with the way they were
addressed.


No, actually you deleted the point.

If I deleted it, it was a point that I didn't feel needed addressing.


It was the point of the conversation. You deleted it and took the
conversation way from IBOC and made it about AM Stereo. I made a an
AM stereo reference as a comparartive. My point was about IBOC. You
deleted it. And addressed items that weren't being argued.




Then why are you responding. Oh, that's right! Your Maus...who has to get
in the last word and argue insigniifcant things ad nauseum....


Yeah....I"m the problem. You were so attentive to details you
failed to miss that I was actually on your side of the issue. Go
back and re-read. When you get to my actual point, let me know.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On Dec 16, 7:18*pm, HD Radio Farce wrote:

But, HD Radio at least doubles their power bills, requires on-going
troubleshooting, and there are on-going fees to iBiquity. i would
think stations, as radio groups declare bankruptcy, will eventually
pull the plug.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In most cases, HD does not even increase the power bill of a
transmitter plant by 10%... often much less. And the licence fee,
which is market based, is minimal. Many stations have leased HD3
channels for specialized programming, and are making money on that.

Only one significant group is approaching bankruptcy, and it is
unlikely that their FM HDs will be turned off.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

I am heading back over to the Sears store in the morning, abouts nine
sompin hours from now.

www.devilfinder.com
Craftsman Plunge Cut 3'' Mini Circular Saw

I have been wanting me a little saw like that for a Long, Long
time.About $109.00 plus Mississippi RIP OFF sales tax, but what the
heck, I am going to buy me one of those little saws.Best of all, it
doesn't run on damn batteries.I Hate battery powered tools, they SUCK!

Then, from the Sears store, about a block and a half to the Goodwill
store www.shopgoodwill.com to see if that
Ethan Allen couch is still there, it probally is.

Move over doggy,,, you wants a cookie?
WOO WOO WOOF!
cuhulin

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

You will never convince Real People that hd radio is any good.
cuhulin

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 14:29 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
If you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

I addressed your point. You just weren't happy with the way they were
addressed.


No, actually you deleted the point.

If I deleted it, it was a point that I didn't feel needed addressing.


It was the point of the conversation. You deleted it and took the
conversation way from IBOC and made it about AM Stereo. I made a an AM
stereo reference as a comparartive. My point was about IBOC. You deleted
it. And addressed items that weren't being argued.

Then I made my points. Why do you keep responding. (Oh, I know...your are
trying to find a way to keep this thread going...)

Then why are you responding. Oh, that's right! Your Maus...who has to
get
in the last word and argue insigniifcant things ad nauseum....


Yeah....I"m the problem. You were so attentive to details you failed to
miss that I was actually on your side of the issue.

Again, then why are you responding.

When you get to my actual point, let me know.

I dont care about your actual point.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

wrote in message
...


You will never convince Real People that hd radio is any good.

I'm old enough that I heard the same thing said about FM!

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On 12/19/09 24:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 14:29 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
If you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

I addressed your point. You just weren't happy with the way they were
addressed.


No, actually you deleted the point.

If I deleted it, it was a point that I didn't feel needed addressing.


It was the point of the conversation. You deleted it and took the
conversation way from IBOC and made it about AM Stereo. I made a an AM
stereo reference as a comparartive. My point was about IBOC. You deleted
it. And addressed items that weren't being argued.

Then I made my points. Why do you keep responding. (Oh, I know...your are
trying to find a way to keep this thread going...)

Then why are you responding. Oh, that's right! Your Maus...who has to
get
in the last word and argue insigniifcant things ad nauseum....


Yeah....I"m the problem. You were so attentive to details you failed to
miss that I was actually on your side of the issue.

Again, then why are you responding.

When you get to my actual point, let me know.

I dont care about your actual point.




And THAT, my dear boy is the real point of your message.

Thank you.

And have a Merry Christmas.


D. Peter Maus

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

I have an old FM converter, for hooking up to an AM car radio to receive
AM/FM.Many years ago, I used to use it too.
cuhulin

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On Dec 18, 11:51�pm, radiodavid wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:18�pm, HD Radio Farce wrote:

But, HD Radio at least doubles their power bills, requires on-going
troubleshooting, and there are on-going fees to iBiquity. i would
think stations, as radio groups declare bankruptcy, will eventually
pull the plug.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In most cases, HD does not even increase the power bill of a
transmitter plant by 10%... often much less. And the licence fee,
which is market based, is minimal. Many stations have leased HD3
channels for specialized programming, and are making money on that.

Only one significant group is approaching bankruptcy, and it is
unlikely that their FM HDs will be turned off.

"I-Bust or H-Doomed"

"In these trying times, it should be pointed out that in most cases
adding IBOC dramatically increases electric bills. I did three build-
outs in Indianapolis and it almost doubled the power bills for the
transmitter sites. Multiply this across the board and it is untold
thousands of dollars a day going up in heat. If IBOC carriers were
turned off, a lot of jobs could be saved with that money."

http://www.radiodaily.net/article.asp?id=1402439

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

On Dec 18, 11:51�pm, radiodavid wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:18�pm, HD Radio Farce wrote:

But, HD Radio at least doubles their power bills, requires on-going
troubleshooting, and there are on-going fees to iBiquity. i would
think stations, as radio groups declare bankruptcy, will eventually
pull the plug.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In most cases, HD does not even increase the power bill of a
transmitter plant by 10%... often much less. And the licence fee,
which is market based, is minimal. Many stations have leased HD3
channels for specialized programming, and are making money on that.

Only one significant group is approaching bankruptcy, and it is
unlikely that their FM HDs will be turned off.

"Many stations have leased HD3 channels for specialized programming,
and are making money on that."

Name one, and post a link to back that up.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"D. Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
On 12/19/09 24:26 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
"D. Peter wrote in message
...
On 12/18/09 14:29 , fdgdfgfdg wrote:
If you'd like to actually address my point, we can return to
something
that begins to resemble a discussion, again.

I addressed your point. You just weren't happy with the way they
were
addressed.


No, actually you deleted the point.

If I deleted it, it was a point that I didn't feel needed addressing.


It was the point of the conversation. You deleted it and took the
conversation way from IBOC and made it about AM Stereo. I made a an AM
stereo reference as a comparartive. My point was about IBOC. You deleted
it. And addressed items that weren't being argued.

Then I made my points. Why do you keep responding. (Oh, I know...your
are
trying to find a way to keep this thread going...)

Then why are you responding. Oh, that's right! Your Maus...who has to
get
in the last word and argue insigniifcant things ad nauseum....


Yeah....I"m the problem. You were so attentive to details you failed
to
miss that I was actually on your side of the issue.

Again, then why are you responding.

When you get to my actual point, let me know.

I dont care about your actual point.




And THAT, my dear boy is the real point of your message.

Right...I am agreeing with you, yet you want to keep this thread going
trying to find something to fight over.

Thank you.

Welcome

And have a Merry Christmas.

You as well.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 11:51?pm, radiodavid wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:18?pm, HD Radio Farce wrote:

But, HD Radio at least doubles their power bills, requires on-going
troubleshooting, and there are on-going fees to iBiquity. i would
think stations, as radio groups declare bankruptcy, will eventually
pull the plug.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In most cases, HD does not even increase the power bill of a
transmitter plant by 10%... often much less. And the licence fee,
which is market based, is minimal. Many stations have leased HD3
channels for specialized programming, and are making money on that.

Only one significant group is approaching bankruptcy, and it is
unlikely that their FM HDs will be turned off.

"Many stations have leased HD3 channels for specialized programming,
and are making money on that."

Name one, and post a link to back that up.

I don't know what the link might be....to their balance sheet?

But CBS is doing it in plenty of places. (Do you think they are giving it
away for free?)

And someone is doing Russian something or other on one of the NYC HD's.

HD makes the list. The decade's 30 biggest tech flops
 

"HD Radio Farce" wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 11:51?pm, radiodavid wrote:
On Dec 16, 7:18?pm, HD Radio Farce wrote:

But, HD Radio at least doubles their power bills, requires on-going
troubleshooting, and there are on-going fees to iBiquity. i would
think stations, as radio groups declare bankruptcy, will eventually
pull the plug.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In most cases, HD does not even increase the power bill of a
transmitter plant by 10%... often much less. And the licence fee,
which is market based, is minimal. Many stations have leased HD3
channels for specialized programming, and are making money on that.

Only one significant group is approaching bankruptcy, and it is
unlikely that their FM HDs will be turned off.



In a development that could vastly improve HD Radio signal reception
and propel the digital radio service forward, iBiquity and NPR have
reached an agreement for an HD power increase. It would give all HD
FMs a FOUR-FOLD POWER HIKE, but some stations could get an EVEN BIGGER
BUMP."


"In these trying times, it should be pointed out that in most cases
adding IBOC dramatically increases electric bills. I did three build-
outs in Indianapolis and it almost doubled the power bills for the
transmitter sites. Multiply this across the board and it is untold
thousands of dollars a day going up in heat. If IBOC carriers were
turned off, a lot of jobs could be saved with that money."

http://www.radiodaily.net/article.asp?id=1402439