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[email protected] April 19th 10 12:05 AM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
Nothing heard lately on 7440kHz. Confirmed in latest Glenn Hauser's
World of Radio. No reason given so far.

Jim

bpnjensen April 19th 10 12:31 AM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
On Apr 18, 4:05*pm, wrote:
Nothing heard lately on 7440kHz. Confirmed in latest Glenn Hauser's
World of Radio. No reason given so far.

Jim


Rats - I sent them a RR a few weeks back; oh, well - hope for the best.

[email protected] April 19th 10 12:41 AM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:31:17 -0700 (PDT), bpnjensen
wrote:

On Apr 18, 4:05*pm, wrote:
Nothing heard lately on 7440kHz. Confirmed in latest Glenn Hauser's
World of Radio. No reason given so far.

Jim


Rats - I sent them a RR a few weeks back; oh, well - hope for the best.


Well, they have been off before with budget problems. Maybe,its just
temporary. Maybe they are looking for an out of production Svetlana
tube for the transmitter.

Jim

m II April 19th 10 05:08 AM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
wrote:

Well, they have been off before with budget problems. Maybe,its just
temporary. Maybe they are looking for an out of production Svetlana
tube for the transmitter.



Not likely. Most of the so called 'Western' powers with older radar
setups had to by spare tubes from Russia. As far as I know, tube
production is still going well there.

There may be a lesson to be learned from that.





mike

dave April 20th 10 01:59 PM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
m II wrote:
wrote:

Well, they have been off before with budget problems. Maybe,its just
temporary. Maybe they are looking for an out of production Svetlana
tube for the transmitter.



Not likely. Most of the so called 'Western' powers with older radar
setups had to by spare tubes from Russia. As far as I know, tube
production is still going well there.

There may be a lesson to be learned from that.





mike


There are power tube rebuilders in Louisiana and in California. As the
tubes get bigger they are generally easier to renew. BTW: there are
industrial furnaces that use high power RF. Transmitting is not the
only use for these tubes.

bpnjensen April 20th 10 04:33 PM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
On Apr 20, 5:59*am, dave wrote:
m II wrote:
wrote:


Well, they have been off before with budget problems. Maybe,its just
temporary. Maybe they are looking for an out of production Svetlana
tube for the transmitter.


Not likely. Most of the so called 'Western' powers with older radar
setups had to by spare tubes from Russia. As far as I know, tube
production is still going well there.


There may be a lesson to be learned from that.


mike


There are power tube rebuilders in Louisiana and in California. *As the
tubes get bigger they are generally easier to renew. *BTW: *there are
industrial furnaces that use high power RF. *Transmitting is not the
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What role does a large tube play in an industrial furnace?

dave April 20th 10 09:53 PM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
bpnjensen wrote:


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What role does a large tube play in an industrial furnace?


Here's an example:

http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio...K112/?pid=6903

"The new ITK 112 triode, intended for high-power induction and
dielectric heating applications, delivers continuous RF power of 280 kW.
It is especially well suited to industrial applications such as the
manufacture of rolled welded tubes, heat treatment of metals, and
textile and wood drying."

Tal Greywolf April 20th 10 11:10 PM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
On 18-Apr-10 18:05, wrote:
Nothing heard lately on 7440kHz. Confirmed in latest Glenn Hauser's
World of Radio. No reason given so far.

Jim


Curiously, the Radio Ukraine International streaming audio feed is still
running on their website. Very odd indeed. The website doesn't show
any notice of a shutdown...

-Raymond

bpnjensen April 21st 10 12:38 AM

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On Apr 20, 1:53*pm, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

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What role does a large tube play in an industrial furnace?


Here's an example:

http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio...K112/?pid=6903

"The new ITK 112 triode, intended for high-power induction and
dielectric heating applications, delivers continuous RF power of 280 kW.
It is especially well suited to industrial applications such as the
manufacture of rolled welded tubes, heat treatment of metals, and
textile and wood drying."


I see - so it actually powers an RF heating element? Pretty slick!

m II April 22nd 10 05:35 AM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
bpnjensen wrote:
On Apr 20, 1:53 pm, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

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What role does a large tube play in an industrial furnace?

Here's an example:

http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio...K112/?pid=6903

"The new ITK 112 triode, intended for high-power induction and
dielectric heating applications, delivers continuous RF power of 280 kW.
It is especially well suited to industrial applications such as the
manufacture of rolled welded tubes, heat treatment of metals, and
textile and wood drying."


I see - so it actually powers an RF heating element? Pretty slick!



I would think it's an induction thing. The circulating currents set up
in the metal do the heating. With wood, it may well be something like
microwaves, heating the water content.



mike

bpnjensen April 22nd 10 04:01 PM

Radio Ukraine off the air
 
On Apr 21, 9:35*pm, m II wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
On Apr 20, 1:53 pm, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:


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What role does a large tube play in an industrial furnace?
Here's an example:


http://www.thalesgroup.com/Portfolio...K112/?pid=6903


"The new ITK 112 triode, intended for high-power induction and
dielectric heating applications, delivers continuous RF power of 280 kW.
It is especially well suited to industrial applications such as the
manufacture of rolled welded tubes, heat treatment of metals, and
textile and wood drying."


I see - so it actually powers an RF heating element? *Pretty slick!


I would think it's an induction thing. The circulating currents set up
in the metal do the heating. With wood, it may well be something like
microwaves, heating the water content.

mike- Hide quoted text -

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I think that's what I was thinking, except you put it a bit more
elegantly :-)


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