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Kevin Alfred Strom April 22nd 10 05:26 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

LATELY there’s been some real disagreement and debate on the Liberty
Net, the longest-running discussion net in Amateur Radio history.
Some participants believe that virtually all politicians are liars
and totally corrupt servants of the moneyed oligarchs, except
perhaps for a tiny number of right-libertarians like Ron and Rand
Paul, and populists like James Traficant and Eliot Spitzer. Other
“Liberty Netters” believe that the only exceptions to criminal
politicians can be found in left-progressives like Dennis Kucinich
and the late Ted Kennedy. Is this conflict resolvable? The two sides
also have diametrically opposed views on the Tea Party movement.
Will patriots who oppose the oligarchs ever come to a consensus? I
don’t know, but the free speech and cross-fertilization of ideas are
bracing and thought-provoking.

Here are some of the highlights of this week’s Net:

• The FBI has officially admitted that there was — when there were
still patriots in the FBI — an FBI file on Obama’s grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because BHO’s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)

• Is hatred for White people the central motivating factor driving
Obama’s attempted “wealth redistribution” schemes? (19 minutes)

• Bill Clinton has now openly stated that “all this anti-government
talk” is a prelude to civil war in the United States. (20 minutes)

• We should all remember the victims of the government kill team
that murdered the innocent men, women, and children in Waco, Texas
17 years ago. (30 minutes)

• In Iraq, the U.S. government is forcing farmers to use sterile
hybrid (and genetically modified) seeds sold by Monsanto Corporation
— which means the farmers cannot use seeds from their own crops to
plant next year. (37 minutes)

• We need an investigation into the exact role of Hank Paulson at
Goldman Sachs when it was issuing fraudulent debt securities. We
already know that hedge fund firm Paulson and Company was created by
Goldman specifically to hide the fact that they were betting against
their own investors. (50 minutes)

• It’s important to remember that Goldman Sachs (and its ilk) is not
an American company like Collins or Hallicrafters — they make
nothing; they just take — and fund politicians like Barack Hussein
Obama who steer billions of dollars their way. Furthermore, the
parasites who created Goldman Sachs will “retire” the name and
surface under another name whenever it serves their purposes. (1
hour 28 minutes)

• NuShawn Williams, the AIDS-infected Black man who purposely
infected 13 White females (and one non-White female) with HIV, most
of them between the ages of 12 and 17, and who stated that his goal
was to infect 300 by having multiple sex partners every day, is due
to be released this week. There has been a move to detain him
civilly, but that can only last for 60 days. (2 hours 12 minutes)

• The idea of total international “interdependence” is a poisonous
one, which threatens to destroy the individual character of nations
and peoples — and which reduces choice for the individual, who will
increasingly be forced to conform to one global standard. (3 hours 0
minutes)

• What is the best word to describe George Soros and his kind? (3
hours 7 minutes)

Don’t forget you can download the Liberty Net right here on
http://3950.net — or listen live via N2SAG or N2IRJ. Thanks as
always to Vic, W1WCR who makes it all happen every Saturday night at
10PM Eastern Time somewhere within 10 kHz or so of 3950 kHz.

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Gregg April 22nd 10 06:11 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 22, 12:26*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote:
Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

LATELY there s been some real disagreement and debate on the Liberty
Net, the longest-running discussion net in Amateur Radio history.
Some participants believe that virtually all politicians are liars
and totally corrupt servants of the moneyed oligarchs, except
perhaps for a tiny number of right-libertarians like Ron and Rand
Paul, and populists like James Traficant and Eliot Spitzer. Other
Liberty Netters believe that the only exceptions to criminal
politicians can be found in left-progressives like Dennis Kucinich
and the late Ted Kennedy. Is this conflict resolvable? The two sides
also have diametrically opposed views on the Tea Party movement.
Will patriots who oppose the oligarchs ever come to a consensus? I
don t know, but the free speech and cross-fertilization of ideas are
bracing and thought-provoking.

Here are some of the highlights of this week s Net:

The FBI has officially admitted that there was when there were
still patriots in the FBI an FBI file on Obama s grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because BHO s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)

Is hatred for White people the central motivating factor driving
Obama s attempted wealth redistribution schemes? (19 minutes)

Bill Clinton has now openly stated that all this anti-government
talk is a prelude to civil war in the United States. (20 minutes)

We should all remember the victims of the government kill team
that murdered the innocent men, women, and children in Waco, Texas
17 years ago. (30 minutes)

In Iraq, the U.S. government is forcing farmers to use sterile
hybrid (and genetically modified) seeds sold by Monsanto Corporation
which means the farmers cannot use seeds from their own crops to
plant next year. (37 minutes)

We need an investigation into the exact role of Hank Paulson at
Goldman Sachs when it was issuing fraudulent debt securities. We
already know that hedge fund firm Paulson and Company was created by
Goldman specifically to hide the fact that they were betting against
their own investors. (50 minutes)

It s important to remember that Goldman Sachs (and its ilk) is not
an American company like Collins or Hallicrafters they make
nothing; they just take and fund politicians like Barack Hussein
Obama who steer billions of dollars their way. Furthermore, the
parasites who created Goldman Sachs will retire the name and
surface under another name whenever it serves their purposes. (1
hour 28 minutes)

NuShawn Williams, the AIDS-infected Black man who purposely
infected 13 White females (and one non-White female) with HIV, most
of them between the ages of 12 and 17, and who stated that his goal
was to infect 300 by having multiple sex partners every day, is due
to be released this week. There has been a move to detain him
civilly, but that can only last for 60 days. (2 hours 12 minutes)

The idea of total international interdependence is a poisonous
one, which threatens to destroy the individual character of nations
and peoples and which reduces choice for the individual, who will
increasingly be forced to conform to one global standard. (3 hours 0
minutes)

What is the best word to describe George Soros and his kind? (3
hours 7 minutes)

Don t forget you can download the Liberty Net right here onhttp://3950.netor listen live via N2SAG or N2IRJ. Thanks as
always to Vic, W1WCR who makes it all happen every Saturday night at
10PM Eastern Time somewhere within 10 kHz or so of 3950 kHz.

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA

D. Peter Maus[_2_] April 22nd 10 06:38 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On 4/22/10 12:11 , Gregg wrote:
On Apr 22, 12:26 pm, Kevin Alfred Stromkevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote:
Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

LATELY there s been some real disagreement and debate on the Liberty
Net, the longest-running discussion net in Amateur Radio history.
Some participants believe that virtually all politicians are liars
and totally corrupt servants of the moneyed oligarchs, except
perhaps for a tiny number of right-libertarians like Ron and Rand
Paul, and populists like James Traficant and Eliot Spitzer. Other
Liberty Netters believe that the only exceptions to criminal
politicians can be found in left-progressives like Dennis Kucinich
and the late Ted Kennedy. Is this conflict resolvable? The two sides
also have diametrically opposed views on the Tea Party movement.
Will patriots who oppose the oligarchs ever come to a consensus? I
don t know, but the free speech and cross-fertilization of ideas are
bracing and thought-provoking.

Here are some of the highlights of this week s Net:

The FBI has officially admitted that there was when there were
still patriots in the FBI an FBI file on Obama s grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because BHO s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)

Is hatred for White people the central motivating factor driving
Obama s attempted wealth redistribution schemes? (19 minutes)

Bill Clinton has now openly stated that all this anti-government
talk is a prelude to civil war in the United States. (20 minutes)

We should all remember the victims of the government kill team
that murdered the innocent men, women, and children in Waco, Texas
17 years ago. (30 minutes)

In Iraq, the U.S. government is forcing farmers to use sterile
hybrid (and genetically modified) seeds sold by Monsanto Corporation
which means the farmers cannot use seeds from their own crops to
plant next year. (37 minutes)

We need an investigation into the exact role of Hank Paulson at
Goldman Sachs when it was issuing fraudulent debt securities. We
already know that hedge fund firm Paulson and Company was created by
Goldman specifically to hide the fact that they were betting against
their own investors. (50 minutes)

It s important to remember that Goldman Sachs (and its ilk) is not
an American company like Collins or Hallicrafters they make
nothing; they just take and fund politicians like Barack Hussein
Obama who steer billions of dollars their way. Furthermore, the
parasites who created Goldman Sachs will retire the name and
surface under another name whenever it serves their purposes. (1
hour 28 minutes)

NuShawn Williams, the AIDS-infected Black man who purposely
infected 13 White females (and one non-White female) with HIV, most
of them between the ages of 12 and 17, and who stated that his goal
was to infect 300 by having multiple sex partners every day, is due
to be released this week. There has been a move to detain him
civilly, but that can only last for 60 days. (2 hours 12 minutes)

The idea of total international interdependence is a poisonous
one, which threatens to destroy the individual character of nations
and peoples and which reduces choice for the individual, who will
increasingly be forced to conform to one global standard. (3 hours 0
minutes)

What is the best word to describe George Soros and his kind? (3
hours 7 minutes)

Don t forget you can download the Liberty Net right here onhttp://3950.netor listen live via N2SAG or N2IRJ. Thanks as
always to Vic, W1WCR who makes it all happen every Saturday night at
10PM Eastern Time somewhere within 10 kHz or so of 3950 kHz.

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA



It looks more like a guide for the purposes of following the
recording as posted.


Kevin Alfred Strom April 22nd 10 07:45 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
Gregg wrote:
[...]

Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA



Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column on http://3950.net/ -- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.


With best regards,



Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

DEFCON 88 April 22nd 10 08:32 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 22, 2:45*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA


Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".

Kevin Alfred Strom April 22nd 10 08:56 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:45 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA

Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".



Maybe you're right -- but I hate to have an article title that
discourages the uninitiated from reading it because they might think
it's "out of date."

Maybe I should just title them with a snippet from some discussion
theme, and leave the time-stamping to the recording (which N2IRJ
always timestamps), the CMS, and Usenet.


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

D. Peter Maus[_2_] April 22nd 10 09:35 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On 4/22/10 14:56 , Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:45 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA
Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".



Maybe you're right -- but I hate to have an article title that
discourages the uninitiated from reading it because they might think
it's "out of date."

Maybe I should just title them with a snippet from some discussion
theme, and leave the time-stamping to the recording (which N2IRJ always
timestamps), the CMS, and Usenet.



Or refer directly to the recording. Not everyone who'd be
interested in the content has a good listening venue. I, myself, no
stranger to tough captures, find that some signals from the Liberty
Net are not easily readable, while the recording allows me to hear
the signals I may miss.

Similar benefits may apply to others.

But one things I do suggest is that you continue. I don't often
agree with the conclusions, or the presentation of some of the
Liberty Net members, but these types of discussions, throughout the
culture, have been taking place in the shadows for far too long. If
nothing else, exposing the Liberty Net to a wider audience begins
dialog that is essential for maintaining the direct involvement of
the People in their government.

While broadcasting on the ham bands is illegal, such discussion
groups are not.

That said, live streaming from a monitoring point may be a next
step.





bpnjensen April 22nd 10 09:49 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 22, 11:45*am, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA


Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

With best regards,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Hot Dang! And I thought it was prerecorded before a live audience!

DEFCON 88 April 22nd 10 09:57 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 22, 3:56*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:45 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:


[...]


Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA
Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!


Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/--usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.


With best regards,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".


Maybe you're right -- but I hate to have an article title that
discourages the uninitiated from reading it because they might think
it's "out of date."

Maybe I should just title them with a snippet from some discussion
theme, and leave the time-stamping to the recording (which N2IRJ
always timestamps), the CMS, and Usenet.

With every good wish,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No big deal, this is your gig and you're in charge. We appreciate your
excellent work.

Gregg April 23rd 10 07:07 AM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 22, 2:45*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:

[...]



Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA


Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!

Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/-- usually within one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.

Ah, thanks guys. I thought I knew the right answer but I was wrong.
Good deal, I'll definitely use that from here on out.

Gregg April 23rd 10 07:23 AM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 22, 4:57*pm, DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 3:56*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:





DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:45 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
Gregg wrote:


[...]


Kevin - I was asked this and didn't know myself. When you make this
post every week, is this what the next program is going to be about?
Follow me? Is this a "guide" to the upcoming Saturday night show? TIA
Peter's right -- it's a guide for some of the more notable moments
in the _recording_ that was just posted. I'm sorry if that wasn't
more clear. Since the Liberty Net is really not a show at all, but a
loosely-structured open discussion with an emphasis on free speech,
there'd be no way for me to predict what will be on the air next week!


Every week Marty, N2IRJ, uploads his recording of the Net, and I
post a link to that recording in the "Liberty Net Audio" list in the
upper right column onhttp://3950.net/--usuallywithin one day of
the Net itself. Then a few days later I post my article with a brief
discussion of the highlights.


With best regards,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


Your efforts are much appreciated, but may I suggest that
"April 17 Liberty Net" might be less confusing than saying
"Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24".


Maybe you're right -- but I hate to have an article title that
discourages the uninitiated from reading it because they might think
it's "out of date."


Maybe I should just title them with a snippet from some discussion
theme, and leave the time-stamping to the recording (which N2IRJ
always timestamps), the CMS, and Usenet.


With every good wish,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/-Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


No big deal, this is your gig and you're in charge. We appreciate your
excellent work.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm glad I brought it up, apparently I wasn't the only one
wondering. :-)
There would be weeks where I thought I had it figured out and then I'd
get screwed up again and not be for sure.

Arky Bob April 25th 10 02:33 AM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 22, 12:26*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote:
Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24


You people make me sick
You're child molesters
You're baby killers
You come in here
You don't know what you're talking about
You don't have a job
You live with your mama
Chicken Fornicator's been indicted
Loose Orifice has been indicted
Chevy Kehoe has been indicted
You killed my dawg Shane
You're filling up my fishing holes with dead bodies
You're going to jail
Innnn Arkinnnn-Sawwwww
Loose Orifice - GET A RADIO ! ! !
http://tinyurl.com/yhfpauw - This blast from the past brought to you
by The Late Arky Bob.

Kaleokualoha April 30th 10 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Alfred Strom (Post 705075)
Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24

http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/

by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO

• The FBI has officially admitted that there was — when there were
still patriots in the FBI — an FBI file on Obama’s grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because BHO’s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)

--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

If you actually READ the FBI statement responding to Kincaid’s request for Stanley Dunham’s FBI records, it should be immediately apparent that the FBI did NOT admit that it destroyed any file on Obama’s grandfather. This 26 March 2010 FBI letter reads, in part:

“Records which may be responsive to your Freedom of Information-Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request were destroyed on May 01, 1997. Since the material could not be reviewed, it is not known if it was responsive to your request.”
- http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/dunham.pdf
- http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139737

Please note that the FBI only advised that “records which MAY be responsive” were destroyed in 1997, but it is NOT KNOWN if they actually apply. From this kernel of truth, Kincaid has once again fabricated evidence against Obama. The FBI letter did not “admit” that it had destroyed his grandfather’s file, nor did it even confirm that it ever had an FBI file on his grandfather. The FBI did NOT know if the 1997 destruction even contained a file on Dunham.

Nevertheless, Cliff Kincaid misrepresented the FBI’s vague response as an ADMISSION that it had destroyed his grandfather’s FBI file. This is the essence of trumped-up evidence: blatant misrepresentation of evidence (the “big lie”). Other disinformation campaigns may depend on viral rumors that are amplified with each embellishment, or carefully designed false implications.

This is just another of Kincaid’s redbaiting campaign, similar to the trumped-up accusations from AIM regarding the 1949 Honolulu NAACP incident (see http://my.barackobama.com/page/commu...ualoha/gG5kN7). In reporting that incident, as in reporting this incident, source documents belie Kincaid’s claims.

They each tell a “big lie” regarding public documents, seemingly confident that nobody would have the audacity to research their claims. Just as Kincaid misrepresented the Congressional testimony of rookie Honolulu NAACP board member Edward Berman, so too has Kincaid misrepresented the FBI response to his Freedom of Information Act request. Kincaid’s minions drink their kool-aid eagerly, because Cliff Kincaid is preaching to his own private choir.

For some reason, however, fewer websites have echoed Kincaid’s claims this time. Although there are 89,000 hits for “berman Honolulu naacp davis,” there are only 12,000 hits for “fbi admits dunham file.” It seems the fringe is less receptive to their “Ministry of Truth.”

Perhaps they are learning (albeit belatedly) the difference between professional propagandists (like Cliff Kincaid), and authentic journalists who adhere to the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics (http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp).

"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth."
- H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

Kevin Alfred Strom April 30th 10 12:33 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
Kaleokualoha wrote:
[...]

“Records which may be responsive to your Freedom of
Information-Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request were destroyed on May 01,
1997. Since the material could not be reviewed, it is not known if it
was responsive to your request.”
- http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/dunham.pdf
- http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139737

Please note that the FBI only advised that “records which MAY be
responsive” were destroyed in 1997, but it is NOT KNOWN if they
actually apply. From this kernel of truth, Kincaid has once again

[...]


Very interesting. I don't know whether Kincaid or you is right --
but I do know that the FBI often lies.




"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most
daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to
tell them the truth."
- H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)




Mencken would have put virtually all politicians -- both McCain and
Fetchit certainly included -- in the "daring liars" category.

This is simply normal for "democracy" and its phony "elections."
When one must appeal to a mass of selfish morons firmly attached to
the media teat in order to win, lies are of the essence.
Truth-tellers are those, like Mencken, who point such things out.

With all good wishes,

Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Gregg April 30th 10 01:46 PM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 30, 2:05*am, Kaleokualoha Kaleokualoha.
wrote:
Kevin Alfred Strom;705075 Wrote:





Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24


http://3950.net/2010/04/liberty-net-...f-april-17-24/


by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO


• The FBI has officially admitted that there was — when
there were
still patriots in the FBI — an FBI file on Obama’s
grandfather, and
they also admit that that file was destroyed. Was it because
BHO’s
grandfather was a friend of Communist Party member and drug dealer
Frank Marshall Davis? (15 minutes)


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http://kevinalfredstrom.com/


If you actually READ the FBI statement responding to Kincaid’s
request for Stanley Dunham’s FBI records, it should be
immediately apparent that the FBI did NOT admit that it destroyed any
file on Obama’s grandfather. *This 26 March 2010 FBI letter
reads, in part:

“Records which may be responsive to your Freedom of
Information-Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request were destroyed on May 01,
1997. *Since the material could not be reviewed, it is not known if it
was responsive to your request.”
-http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/dunham.pdf
-http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=139737

Please note that the FBI only advised that “records which MAY be
responsive” were destroyed in 1997, but it is NOT KNOWN if they
actually apply. *From this kernel of truth, Kincaid has once again
fabricated evidence against Obama. *The FBI letter did not
“admit” that it had destroyed his grandfather’s file,
nor did it even confirm that it ever had an FBI file on his grandfather.
The FBI did NOT know if the 1997 destruction even contained a file on
Dunham. *

Nevertheless, Cliff Kincaid misrepresented the FBI’s vague
response as an ADMISSION that it had destroyed his grandfather’s
FBI file. *This is the essence of trumped-up evidence: *blatant
misrepresentation of evidence (the “big lie”). Other
disinformation campaigns may depend on viral rumors that are amplified
with each embellishment, or carefully designed false implications. *

This is just another of Kincaid’s redbaiting campaign, similar to
the trumped-up accusations from AIM regarding the 1949 Honolulu NAACP
incident (seehttp://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/Kaleokualoha/gG5kN7). *In
reporting that incident, as in reporting this incident, source documents
belie Kincaid’s claims. *

They each tell a “big lie” regarding public documents,
seemingly confident that nobody would have the audacity to research
their claims. * Just as Kincaid misrepresented the Congressional
testimony of rookie Honolulu NAACP board member Edward Berman, so too
has Kincaid misrepresented the FBI response to his Freedom of
Information Act request. *Kincaid’s minions drink their kool-aid
eagerly, because Cliff Kincaid is preaching to his own private choir.

For some reason, however, fewer websites have echoed Kincaid’s
claims this time. *Although there are 89,000 hits for “berman
Honolulu naacp davis,” there are only 12,000 hits for “fbi
admits dunham file.” *It seems the fringe is less receptive to
their “Ministry of Truth.” *

Perhaps they are learning (albeit belatedly) the difference between
professional propagandists (like Cliff Kincaid), and authentic
journalists who adhere to the Society of Professional Journalists Code
of Ethics (http://www.spj.org/ethicscode.asp).

"The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most
daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to
tell them the truth."
- H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

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Huh, why would someone create a screen name 'literally' just to
respond to this post? Why not use your real screen name that you use?

Kaleokualoha April 30th 10 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Alfred Strom (Post 705873)

Very interesting. I don't know whether Kincaid or you is right --
but I do know that the FBI often lies.

This is a problem easily solved. Read the FBI letters provided by Kincaid, then read Kincaid's misrepresentation of the letters. They are at http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/dunham.pdf. This is just another element of the disinformation campaign against Obama.

BTW: Davis was not a drug dealer. That trumped-up charge was fabricated by WND from an "anonymous source" to implicate Davis, just like charges of Iraqi mobile weapons labs were fabricated by "Curveball" to implicate Saddam.

"Truth is generally the best vindication against slander."
- Abraham Lincoln

bpnjensen May 1st 10 12:51 AM

Liberty Net for Week of April 17-24
 
On Apr 30, 11:15*am, Kaleokualoha Kaleokualoha.
wrote:


"Truth is generally the best vindication against slander."
- Abraham Lincoln

--
Kaleokualoha


But slander is a LOT more fun (and often more profitable)!


Kaleokualoha May 2nd 10 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpnjensen (Post 705943)
On Apr 30, 11:15*am, Kaleokualoha Kaleokualoha.
wrote:


"Truth is generally the best vindication against slander."
- Abraham Lincoln

--
Kaleokualoha


But slander is a LOT more fun (and often more profitable)!

The National Enquirer and various other pseudo-journalism sources have made quite a profit from slander. When individuals do it, however, you can imagine them as kids pulling the wings off flies. Habitual slander suggests a sociopathic personality disorder.

"Have patience awhile; slanders are not long-lived. Truth is the child of time; erelong she shall appear to vindicate thee."
- Immanuel Kant


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