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Daniel Salas May 17th 10 10:49 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
Hi All,

Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.

I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.

Let me know how you think I should proceed.

Much thanks in advance!!!

[email protected] May 17th 10 11:10 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT), Daniel Salas
wrote:

Hi All,

Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.

I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.

Let me know how you think I should proceed.

Much thanks in advance!!!


Is this a flat metal roof?

Jim

Daniel Salas May 17th 10 11:42 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 17, 6:10*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT), Daniel Salas



wrote:
Hi All,


Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.


I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.


Let me know how you think I should proceed.


Much thanks in advance!!!


Is this a flat metal roof?

Jim


It's flat, and is covered in a semi-soft, rubberish substance. Don't
know about what's underneath (if that matters).

[email protected] May 18th 10 12:29 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On Mon, 17 May 2010 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT), Daniel Salas
wrote:

On May 17, 6:10*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT), Daniel Salas



wrote:
Hi All,


Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.


I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.


Let me know how you think I should proceed.


Much thanks in advance!!!


Is this a flat metal roof?

Jim


It's flat, and is covered in a semi-soft, rubberish substance. Don't
know about what's underneath (if that matters).


A metal roof would be best to avoid interference from inside the
apartment. Not a necessity though. The main thing is you are pretty
much in the clear to receive shortwave signals and also in the clear
to receive interference from outside sources.

You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.

You could put up a piece of pvc pipe and hang an inverted vee from it.
Or to be safe, (see last comment), put supports in two corners and
hang a dipole in between. Do a search for hf antennas and you will
find a lot of information. All you really need is a piece of wire that
is insulated from its supports to connect to your radio. This will get
you started.

The main thing is - whatever you do, don't tear a hole in that roof
membrane.

Jim


[email protected] May 18th 10 12:39 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
You could weigh the antenna support(s) down with sandbags.
cuhulin


Brenda Ann[_2_] May 18th 10 12:42 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 

wrote in message
...
You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )



[email protected] May 18th 10 01:11 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On Tue, 18 May 2010 08:42:36 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely direct
line-of-sight from his building.


Well, I guess the first question to ask is: What is the budget for the
SW radio?

Oh, and the sandbags are a good idea to keep a support in place while
protecting the roof. Thanks.

Jim

Daniel Salas May 18th 10 01:35 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 17, 8:11*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 08:42:36 +0900, "Brenda Ann"

wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely direct
line-of-sight from his building.


Well, I guess the first question to ask is: What is the budget for the
SW radio?

Oh, and the sandbags are a good idea to keep a support in place while
protecting the roof. Thanks.

Jim


I was hoping to spend a max of $150 or so. Is that too low a buy-in
for the kind of equipment I'd need? If so, bummer.

Brenda Ann[_2_] May 18th 10 01:41 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 

"Daniel Salas" wrote in message
news:6d07fc84-1df8-4425-bcaf-
I was hoping to spend a max of $150 or so. Is that too low a buy-in
for the kind of equipment I'd need? If so, bummer.

For a $150 price point, you can't get a lot in the way of a new radio, but
there are a lot of good radios that can be found for that or less on the
used radio market. Ebay is a good source, but you should check with some of
our regulars about any sellers you're looking at. Also, good radios turn up
here in this NG from time to time.




[email protected] May 18th 10 02:22 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On Mon, 17 May 2010 17:35:25 -0700 (PDT), Daniel Salas
wrote:

On May 17, 8:11*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 08:42:36 +0900, "Brenda Ann"

wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely direct
line-of-sight from his building.


Well, I guess the first question to ask is: What is the budget for the
SW radio?

Oh, and the sandbags are a good idea to keep a support in place while
protecting the roof. Thanks.

Jim


I was hoping to spend a max of $150 or so. Is that too low a buy-in
for the kind of equipment I'd need? If so, bummer.


That is pretty low. You could get a good portable. The Sony
ICF-SW7600GR is about $150. There are others.

I would try to find someone with a good shortwave radio they could
bring over and test at your apartment and determine what types of
interference are present. That way you can figure out if a portable
will fill your needs. You may need a radio with a noise blanker if
there is serious power line noise. That would take the radio out of
the price range you are considering.

Jim

[email protected] May 18th 10 02:34 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
J & R Electronics store is in New York City.Drive over there or catch a
cab and look at the Shortwave radios.Sony 7600 AM/FM/Shortwave radio is
a good radio.

Maybe you can catch that Cash Cab and win some money.
cuhulin


Gregg May 18th 10 04:54 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 17, 5:49*pm, Daniel Salas wrote:
Hi All,

Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.

I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.

Let me know how you think I should proceed.

Much thanks in advance!!!


Hi Daniel and welcome to RRS :-) You'll definitely get alot of help
and recommendations from everyone here. Brenda Ann said something that
is so true, don't get something cheap (radio wise.) It will just ruin
your radio experience and IMO by newbies going that route - they
quickly gave up on the hobby.

I can tell you from my personal experience, with the setup of you
living on that top floor and having access to the roof - you could
really put together a nice setup.

As for your radio, it all depends on how much jack you want to spend.
If money isn't much of an obstacle go with maybe an Icom R-75 to start
out, or any of the nicer tabletop models. Worse case scenario, you
give the hobby a try and don't like it or it just isn't your
bag.....then you can always sell your piece and you haven't lost a
thing.

If you don't want to spend that kind of money, there "are" workarounds
so too speak. There are all kinds of accessories that can aid in
cleaning up a signal too. You can purchase a nice portable receiver, I
have a couple and they do come in handy when or if you want to get
away, and trust me - if you get into the hobby and enjoy it....there
WILL be times where you want to get away from any RFI (interference)
and you'll flip when you see the difference. It will almost make you
want to build a small cabin ( I did ) or go to the beach or park and
have a ball.

But one of the most important things is your antenna. It could be as
simple as running fifty feet of wire and coupling it to your whip
antenna or buying one ready made that is cut for all the bands or
specific bands of your liking. But with you having access to the
roof...yeah baby...you could have a badass setup if you wanted.
Welcome to the hobby and read read read read and you'll learn alot.
Good luck and let everyone know what you chose to do. :-)


Gregg May 18th 10 10:54 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 18, 12:13*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
"Gregg" wrote in message

...
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:

wrote in message


.. .


You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. *{?}

The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.

Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.


Ha!

bpnjensen May 18th 10 03:22 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 18, 2:54*am, Gregg wrote:
On May 18, 12:13*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:





"Gregg" wrote in message


...
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


wrote in message


.. .


You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. *{?}


The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.


Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.


Ha!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not too hard to make you laugh! :-D

[email protected] May 18th 10 07:20 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
I have a couple of cheap small AM/FM/Shortwave radios I bought new for
$10.00 each.I will send one of them to him free of charge and I will pay
the postage to send it too.But, if he wins some money in that Cash Cab,
he has to split half of it with me.
cuhulin


[email protected] May 19th 10 02:26 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:13:18 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


"Gregg" wrote in message
...
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. {?}

The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.

Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.




This is the one I was thinking of. Is this the same model (9 SW bands
- Kaito WRX-911 or equivalent)?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...4W3FWF04MT5KZ8

Jim

I. P. Yurin May 19th 10 03:56 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother? --- Yes!
 
On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT), Daniel Salas
wrote:
Hi All,

Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.

I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.

Let me know how you think I should proceed.

Much thanks in advance!!!


I live in manhattan, without roof access (well, without authorized
access, anyways). You can pick up lots of stations here with just a
good portable and 20 feet of wire strung outside the windows. And in
Brooklyn, you'll have less interference.

Moreover, since you have roof access, you have lots of options on how
to place your antenna, which, if you start with a portable, need only
be wire clipped to or wrapped around the radio's whip antenna.

More NYC SWL questions? Just ask. But if you decide to put an antenna
on the roof, be sure to protect against lightning. It wasn't too long
ago that some dope downtown got fried because he went up on his roof
to "enjoy" a thunderstorm.

--
Col. I. P. Yurin
Commissariat of Internal Security

Stakhanovite
Order of Lenin (1937)
Hero of Socialist Labor (1939)

Brenda Ann[_2_] May 19th 10 04:04 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:13:18 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


"Gregg" wrote in message
...
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
wrote in message

...

You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.

Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. {?}

The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.

Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.




This is the one I was thinking of. Is this the same model (9 SW bands
- Kaito WRX-911 or equivalent)?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...4W3FWF04MT5KZ8

Jim


More like this one:

http://www.universal-radio.com/used/sold365.html



[email protected] May 19th 10 05:32 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 17, 5:49*pm, Daniel Salas wrote:
Hi All,

Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.

I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.

Let me know how you think I should proceed.

Much thanks in advance!!!


You may ecounter some RF interference from being in close proximity to
the Empire State building. Also,Cablevision and Time Warner cables may
cause serious buzzing in occasionally extreme cases. J&R on Park Row
is a decent place to start shopping for an entry level receiver. And
you will actually find a knowledgeable sales person , unlike R.Shack!

Gregg May 19th 10 06:18 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 18, 9:26*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:13:18 +0900, "Brenda Ann"





wrote:

"Gregg" wrote in message
...
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
wrote in message


. ..


You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. *{?}


The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.


Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.


This is the one I was thinking of. Is this the same model (9 SW bands
- Kaito WRX-911 or equivalent)?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...k2_dp_sr_2?pf_....

Jim- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I have a radio similar to that one somewhere in my closet. It is what
it is. I would hope he would start out with something better than
that. Just call that radio "overload city" if he throws ten feet of
wire on it. Just my opinion.


Gregg May 19th 10 06:20 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 18, 10:22*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On May 18, 2:54*am, Gregg wrote:





On May 18, 12:13*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


"Gregg" wrote in message


....
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


wrote in message


.. .


You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. *{?}


The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.


Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.


Ha!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not too hard to make you laugh! :-D- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No, it's just I've talked to and dealt with BA enough back channel
that when she said "Tell ya what" etc. I sensed her 'tude' - - and I
found it funny. :-)

Gregg May 19th 10 06:26 AM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 18, 11:04*pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
wrote in message

...





On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:13:18 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:


"Gregg" wrote in message
....
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
wrote in message


...


You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. *{?}


The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.


Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.


This is the one I was thinking of. Is this the same model (9 SW bands
- Kaito WRX-911 or equivalent)?


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...k2_dp_sr_2?pf_....


Jim


More like this one:

http://www.universal-radio.com/used/sold365.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


ROTFLMAO - - please don't accept that radio. ;-) BA threw one my way
once (still have it- sitting on a shelf)...lol...it's like a toy for a
eight year old. On the other hand, go on and send it to him Brenda and
he'll never listen to shortwave again. What did you do -- -- get a
gift bag with a bunch of those? FWIW though, I'll never get rid of
it.....just because. :-)


RHF May 19th 10 12:45 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 17, 2:49*pm, Daniel Salas wrote:
Hi All,

Complete newbie here considering purchasing a shortwave radio, but
since I've heard that sw's can have trouble picking up signals in NYC
I want to get some info from the experts before I take the plunge.

I live in northern Brooklyn, NY, in a top-floor apartment that has
roof access. There are really no buildings much taller than mine in
the area (save Manhattan across the river, of course). So I'm
wondering, can I expect much success in picking up shortwave stations,
and if so, what do you think is the cheapest model I could get away
with for my area and still expect decent results? I know that sw
involves some work and hunting, which I'm prepared to do, I just don't
want to be completely out-of-luck.

Let me know how you think I should proceed.

Much thanks in advance!!!


Daniel Salas,

30 years ago Shortwave Radio may have been
the only way to go for directly from-the-source
International {Foreign} News and Information.

Now you have better options in Internet Radio
and Satellite Radio especially in major US Cities
where the RFI/EMF Levels have multiplied in
the last 30 years to the point that Shortwave
Radio signals are often below the the exceeding
high noise levels of the urban environment.

Internet Radio {Free-2-Net/Web}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Radio

Internet Radio Stations*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_stations
* Note that most former International Shortwave
Radio Broadcasters are now World Wide Web
{Internet} Radio Broadcasters {Free-2-Net}.

Free-to-Earth [GEO] Satellite and Radio
http://www.gofastmotorsports.com/rickssatellitehome.htm
North American C-Band and Ku-Band Satellites

"I Heard It On The Sat-Radio" ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...6873a0f937fbcc

[email protected] May 19th 10 01:13 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On Tue, 18 May 2010 22:18:26 -0700 (PDT), Gregg
wrote:

On May 18, 9:26*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2010 13:13:18 +0900, "Brenda Ann"





wrote:

"Gregg" wrote in message
...
On May 17, 7:42 pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
wrote in message


. ..


You might want to get your hands on a cheap portable shortwave and
check for these sources. You could have a problem from electrical
wires. Also computers, tv's, etc. in adjacent apartments are potential
sources of interference. Try to find the most quiet spot to erect an
antenna.


Cheap SW radios have a nasty tendency to be easily overloaded by high
level
VHF signals (such as TV and FM eminating from the ESB, in most likely
direct
line-of-sight from his building.. )


I thought he mentioned the cheap radio to check for any sources
causing RFI. *{?}


The problem is that a really cheap radio will create it's own interference
sources through overloading and IM.


Tell ya what... if he wants it, I have a little 9 band pocket radio I'll
send him. That's a cheapy that if it does nothing, it can be tossed in the
bin and fogotten. If he can hear any SW on it, then he'll for sure be able
to hear it on something like the Sony.


This is the one I was thinking of. Is this the same model (9 SW bands
- Kaito WRX-911 or equivalent)?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...k2_dp_sr_2?pf_...

Jim- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I have a radio similar to that one somewhere in my closet. It is what
it is. I would hope he would start out with something better than
that. Just call that radio "overload city" if he throws ten feet of
wire on it. Just my opinion.


I am just suggesting it as a throw away test unit to determine if he
can receive anything up on the roof. Can use it for interference
source hunting too. If someone can send him a cheapie they have, so
much the better.

Jim

dave May 19th 10 02:11 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
RHF wrote:


Internet Radio Stations*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_stations



http://classic.shoutcast.com/

http://dir.xiph.org/index.php

http://music.aol.com/radioguide/bb

http://www.iheartradio.com/main.html


DEFCON 88 May 19th 10 07:47 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
On May 17, 9:34*pm, wrote:

.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


J & R Electronics store is in New York City.Drive over there or catch a
cab and look at the Shortwave radios.Sony 7600 AM/FM/Shortwave radio is
a good radio.

Maybe you can catch that Cash Cab and win some money.
cuhulin



RED LIGHT CHALLLLENGE!!!!!


[email protected] May 19th 10 09:21 PM

Newbie on a Brooklyn Rooftop - Should I Bother?
 
I like that crazy ceiling in that Cash Cab.One time three Irish people
from Ireland got in that Cash Cab.They weren't interested in winning any
money.I think they said something to the affect,
Pull over and let us out of here!
cuhulin



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