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bpnjensen September 17th 10 04:45 AM

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague.
 
On Sep 16, 3:15*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 9/16/2010 3:59 PM, dave wrote:

...
You are a nut job. The only people encroaching on your liberty are the
corporations you so eagerly serve.


Wow, what is up with nut jobs calling everyone else the term which
describes them?

The patriot act infringes on my rights and freedoms, so do gun laws, so
does the limiting of free speech, etc., etc. ... it is my public
servants which do these things ... corporations couldn't pass a bill if
they wanted to, they can only bribe my treasonous public servants, nut job!

Regards,
JS


Whoever has the gold makes the rules.

dave September 17th 10 03:09 PM

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bpnjensen wrote:

Whoever has the gold makes the rules.


That is 100% opposed to what the USA was supposed to be about. That's
why excessive wealth needs to be taxed at 90%. No dynasties allowed!

Kevin Alfred Strom September 17th 10 07:12 PM

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague.
 
On 9/17/2010 10:09 AM, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

Whoever has the gold makes the rules.


That is 100% opposed to what the USA was supposed to be about.
That's why excessive wealth needs to be taxed at 90%. No dynasties
allowed!




I don't understand you, Dave.

You say you're against power concentration -- but you're absolutely
in _love_ with the idea of taking virtually all of the money of the
wealthy dynasts and _combining_ it into one super-concentrated nexus
of power.


Puzzled,



Kevin.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

John Smith September 17th 10 08:28 PM

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On 9/17/2010 11:12 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 9/17/2010 10:09 AM, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

Whoever has the gold makes the rules.


...

Kevin.


I don't know about that, but those with the gold are going to have to
pay the bills, fix the roads, maintain public services, power, water,
medical, parks, programs, etc., etc., etc.

We have simply reached the point where taxing the poor has the same
result of attempting to extract blood from the fabled turnip ... but
that doesn't mean they still won't keep trying ...

Regards,
JS

dave September 18th 10 12:42 AM

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Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 9/17/2010 10:09 AM, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

Whoever has the gold makes the rules.


That is 100% opposed to what the USA was supposed to be about.
That's why excessive wealth needs to be taxed at 90%. No dynasties
allowed!




I don't understand you, Dave.

You say you're against power concentration -- but you're absolutely in
_love_ with the idea of taking virtually all of the money of the wealthy
dynasts and _combining_ it into one super-concentrated nexus of power.


Puzzled,


At least until we get caught up on the deficit and the crumbling
infrastructure. Good old fashioned millionaires are OK. People who use
money to keep score should have their legs chopped at the shins.

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial
by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson

[email protected] September 18th 10 06:24 AM

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague.
 
On Sep 17, 10:09*am, dave wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Whoever has the gold makes the rules.


That is 100% opposed to what the USA was supposed to be about. *That's
why excessive wealth needs to be taxed at 90%. No dynasties allowed!


Only in Sweden. We, the people don't like high taxes. We don't like
taxes, period.

dave September 18th 10 02:44 PM

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wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:09 am, wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Whoever has the gold makes the rules.


That is 100% opposed to what the USA was supposed to be about. That's
why excessive wealth needs to be taxed at 90%. No dynasties allowed!


Only in Sweden. We, the people don't like high taxes. We don't like
taxes, period.


I wasn't talking about people. I was talking about Wall Street pigs.

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] September 18th 10 02:53 PM

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague.
 
On 9/18/2010 1:24 AM, wrote:

We, the people don't like high taxes. We don't like taxes, period.


Hmmm...we the people don't like taxes?

I'll bet they -do- like having EMS come when a family member is ill or
having the fire department show up when their house is on fire or
driving on a paved road, not a dirt two track.

Maybe the people that dislike taxes think all these services are free.


[email protected] September 18th 10 03:21 PM

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More and more U.S.States are going back to dirt/gravel roads, because
they are cheaper to maintain.

I remember dirt roads,,, QUICK!, roll the windows up! That was before
auto airconditioning came along, for most cars.That gravel is real good
for cracking windshields too, and the mud, when it rains.Those flat
plate windshields would blind you too, when the Sun catches them just
right.I always liked it when a piece of gravel would get in a hubcap.

Ain't no mud on Batman's cape, he can run faster than a spotted
ape,,,,,,
cuhulin


[email protected] September 21st 10 06:20 AM

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On Sep 18, 9:44*am, dave wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:09 am, *wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:
Whoever has the gold makes the rules.


That is 100% opposed to what the USA was supposed to be about. *That's
why excessive wealth needs to be taxed at 90%. No dynasties allowed!


Only in Sweden. * We, the people don't like high taxes. We don't like
taxes, period.


I wasn't talking about people. I was talking about Wall Street pigs.


....the ones We, the People have just bailed out from getting hung,
drawn and quartered ?

[email protected] September 21st 10 06:30 AM

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague.
 
On Sep 18, 9:53*am, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 9/18/2010 1:24 AM, wrote:

We, the people don't like high taxes. We don't like taxes, period.


Hmmm...we the people don't like taxes?

I'll bet they -do- like having EMS come when a family member is ill or
having the fire department show up when their house is on fire or
driving on a paved road, not a dirt two track.

Maybe the people that dislike taxes think all these services are free.


EMS and Fire Dept. have been combined here,ever since Giuliani days.
And if,God forbid, one needs an ambulance a very hefty bill is sent
instantly. I'm not kidding. The local gov't is unable to support
itself and lots of services have been cut. Police Dept is next. The
only cops we'll see in the future will be on the television. Really.

Kevin Alfred Strom September 21st 10 10:31 AM

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague.
 
On 9/21/2010 1:30 AM, wrote:
[...]
The
only cops we'll see in the future will be on the television. Really.




If only that were true.


As ever,


Kevin.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] September 21st 10 01:43 PM

SPECIAL: Constitution intentionally vague.
 

On Sep 18, 9:53 am, Joe from wrote:
On 9/18/2010 1:24 AM, wrote:

We, the people don't like high taxes. We don't like taxes, period.


Hmmm...we the people don't like taxes?

I'll bet they -do- like having EMS come when a family member is ill or
having the fire department show up when their house is on fire or
driving on a paved road, not a dirt two track.

Maybe the people that dislike taxes think all these services are free.


On 9/21/2010 1:30 AM, wrote:

EMS and Fire Dept. have been combined here,ever since Giuliani days.
And if,God forbid, one needs an ambulance a very hefty bill is sent
instantly.


Thank you for supporting my point, which was that services are NOT FREE.
Either you get billed directly (in your case) or we pay for it by taxes
(in my case). Either way, NOT free.

I'm not kidding. The local gov't is unable to support
itself and lots of services have been cut. Police Dept is next. The
only cops we'll see in the future will be on the television. Really.


Sad but true. Things you describe are just as bad all over the
country...and it started with that wonderful thing called
"globalization". Once we started shipping out our jobs to people willing
to work for 50 cents an hour, that was the beginning of the end of
American life as we knew it (and it ain't over, the worst is yet to come).

Ross Perot warned us about that giant sucking sound but sadly, most
didn't believe him.



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