(OT) : Help Prez Obama Defeat Master-Bation© Massive Unemployment and Federal Aid
On Sep 16, 4:38*pm, wrote:
Christine O'Donnell is one of my Heros. John King, USA program on CNN TV. Somebody was interviewing that democrap B * * HO Butt Kisser in Braddock,Pennsylvania.That democrap woman said she voted for B * * HO.. - More and more people in America are living on welfare, food stamps, food - pantries, more and more people in America are at, or below the poverty - level.More and more people in America have no jobs. Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama more people than every are now living on US Federal Government Aid http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-numbers_N.htm -pbhn- WE LOVE YOU PREZ OBAMA ! * Keep Send Us That Obama-Aid-Money -but- could you make it a little more . . . Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama more people than every are now Un-Employed http://beta.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-n...-poverty-rate/ -pbhn- WE LOVE YOU PREZ OBAMA ! * Keep Send Us That Obama-Unemployment-Money -but- could you make the check a little bigger . . . She said she voted for B * * * HO, she ought to be happy now.She is not happy at all. cuhulin Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama more people than every are now living on US Federal Government Aide |
(OT) : Help Prez Obama Defeat Master-Bation© Massive Unemployment and Federal Aid
On 9/17/2010 4:35 AM, RHF wrote:
On Sep 16, 4:38 pm, wrote: Christine O'Donnell is one of my Heros. John King, USA program on CNN TV. Somebody was interviewing that democrap B HO Butt Kisser in Braddock,Pennsylvania.That democrap woman said she voted for B HO. - More and more people in America are living on welfare, food stamps, food - pantries, more and more people in America are at, or below the poverty - level.More and more people in America have no jobs. Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama more people than every are now living on US Federal Government Aid http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-numbers_N.htm -pbhn- WE LOVE YOU PREZ OBAMA ! * Keep Send Us That Obama-Aid-Money -but- could you make it a little more . . . Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama more people than every are now Un-Employed http://beta.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-n...-poverty-rate/ -pbhn- WE LOVE YOU PREZ OBAMA ! * Keep Send Us That Obama-Unemployment-Money -but- could you make the check a little bigger . . . She said she voted for B HO, she ought to be happy now.She is not happy at all. cuhulin Yes under the good leadership of Prez Obama more people than every are now living on US Federal Government Aide Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans the course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now? The president who replaces obama, be him/her republi-crat or demo-can, will only see to further increases, wanna' bet? Regards, JS |
(OT) : Help Prez Obama Defeat Master-Bation© Massive Unemployment and Federal Aid
On Sep 17, 9:07*am, John Smith wrote:
On 9/17/2010 5:50 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote: On 9/17/10 07:27 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 9/17/2010 7:44 AM, John Smith wrote: Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans the course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now? "why get so upset now?" you ask? Well, it would seem that subtle (or not so subtle) racial bigotry may be the answer to your question. From reading some of the posts here, it would seem that no matter WHAT Obama says or does, he is automatically wrong. Heck, one poster even said Obama was a bad president because he didn't get the family dog from a pound... No, he was commenting that Obama promised that he was going to get his dog from the pound, and then bought a purebred from an exclusive breeder. |
(OT) : Help Prez Obama Defeat Master-Bation© Massive Unemployment and Federal Aid
On 9/17/10 12:32 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 9/17/2010 7:44 AM, John Smith wrote: Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans the course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now? On 9/17/10 07:27 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: "why get so upset now?" you ask? Well, it would seem that subtle (or not so subtle) racial bigotry may be the answer to your question. From reading some of the posts here, it would seem that no matter WHAT Obama says or does, he is automatically wrong. Heck, one poster even said Obama was a bad president because he didn't get the family dog from a pound... On 9/17/2010 8:50 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote: No, he was commenting that Obama promised that he was going to get his dog from the pound, and then bought a purebred from an exclusive breeder. Just another broken promise. Well, I hate to put too fine a point on it...as I don't remember the specific details (because at the time, I thought the dog deal was pretty much a non-issue). When you say "promise", to whom? Under what conditions? Did he swear to it in front of a Supreme Court Justice on George Washington's bible? As Lee Iacocca said to the Mrs, "Nice dodge." You brought up the dog. I didn't say it was an important issue. But it was another broken promise. One of dozens. That was the point. I don't know if you are a parent or not, but sometimes parents do try and please their kids. Maybe there was nothing at the pound that the kids liked. Bottom line...there could be fifty different reasons why they didn't end up getting it from the pound. That's true. But to comment on it isn't racism. To criticize him for it isn't racism. Someone in his position doesn't make a promise on such an issue, except to appease a political constituency. That's not racial, either. In other words, it was another political promise broken. Unimportant as it is. But you brought it up. It's real easy to throw down the race card in dismissing critics of this President. But it's a cheap shot. I would respectfully beg to differ. It is abundantly, I say ABUNDANTLY clear, that racism, however subtle, IS a factor. There are some (many?) on this NG for whom Obama can NEVER be right, no matter which side of the fence he is on. That's an interesting leap. So, there's no way race can't be involved? The fact that there are those for whom G.W. Bush can NEVER be right no matter which side he is on? So that's got a racial component? The fact that there are those for whom Bill Clinton can NEVER be right no matter which side he is on? That's racial? But criticism of Obama must have a racial factor. Where have I heard that before. I'd say that's a pretty racist remark on its face. You bring up Bush. Yes, he broke promises. He was excoriated for it. I don't recall Jesse Jackson saying that the 'no new taxes' blunder, AND it's subsequent criticisms, were racially motivated. Yet, criticism of Obama for his blunders must be rooted in race? That's bull****. Bill Clinton ran on a platform of lowering taxes for the middle class. And before the first month was up, broke that promise. Ironically, also blaming a Bush. He, was crucified for it. Bill Clinton lied his ass off before the nation, before the Congress, before his wife. He committed perjury on the witness stand. He also promised transparency. And he took his cornerstone issues behind closed doors. And he was savaged for them. I don't recall a single comment implying racial motivations in any of these criticisms. Not one. And Bush 43? Where to start. I don't recall anyone suggesting that any criticisms of Bush were motivated by race. But many of them did accuse HIM of racial motivation. The hard truth is that politicians lie. They make promises with the intention of breaking them. And make backroom deals. They sell their influence. I'm in Illinois. Politicians rank below gang members, career rapists and lawyers. But nowhere is ANY criticism refuted with accusations of racism. These career criminals are criticized for their actions. Their ethics. Their values. For who they are. And often for who they are not. Race isn't even on the radar. "Racism" is the easiest card to throw in this culture today. IT's a hot button issue. And it's a cheap shot. You want to defend Obama? Go for it. You'll have no end of ready participants to such a discussion. A discussion, by the way, that may be productive. Might actually convince some people. Will certainly clarify thinking. And crystalize beliefs. Try discussing the issues. You may find that you're in agreement with many of us. You may find that many are in agreement with you. But as soon as you get backed into a corner by a fact, throw the race card. Please. Show us how evolved you are. D. Peter Maus. |
(OT) : Help Prez Obama Defeat Master-Bation© Massive Unemployment and Federal Aid
On 9/17/2010 11:19 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
... These career criminals are criticized for their actions. Their ethics. Their values. For who they are. And often for who they are not. Race isn't even on the radar. "Racism" is the easiest card to throw in this culture today. IT's a hot button issue. And it's a cheap shot. You want to defend Obama? Go for it. You'll have no end of ready participants to such a discussion. A discussion, by the way, that may be productive. Might actually convince some people. Will certainly clarify thinking. And crystalize beliefs. Try discussing the issues. You may find that you're in agreement with many of us. You may find that many are in agreement with you. But as soon as you get backed into a corner by a fact, throw the race card. Please. Show us how evolved you are. D. Peter Maus. I know one thing, it is truly amazing. It in non-intuitive, brilliant in its' simplicity and seems to have some relationship to the human psyche which keeps the victim from seeing the victimization. And, so far, has seemed to work very well for them ... for decades. It is the simple "political-football-deception." You simply give them two choices (two teams, parties, etc.), and then stock the teams with treasonous, unethical, sociopathic liars who will do anything or say anything in support of their masters and, you have a game! You can even do this right out in the open. If anyone, or any group, complains and tries to point out patterns and the end results, going on for decades, which they have even been caught at before (false-flag operations, for example) and they simply need to yell "conspiracy nut-job" and the blanket which hides their treasonous crimes falls to cloak their criminal actions ... simply amazing to set back and watch, knowing it will be impossible to awaken those caught in the lotus blossom dreams ... Regards, JS |
(OT) : Help Prez Obama Defeat Master-Bation© Massive Unemployment and Federal Aid
On 9/17/2010 2:19 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 9/17/10 12:32 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 9/17/2010 7:44 AM, John Smith wrote: Actually, since the 1970's, each new president has seen welfare/food-stamps increase ... through republi-crats and demo-cans the course has been unfaltering ... why get so upset now? On 9/17/10 07:27 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: "why get so upset now?" you ask? Well, it would seem that subtle (or not so subtle) racial bigotry may be the answer to your question. From reading some of the posts here, it would seem that no matter WHAT Obama says or does, he is automatically wrong. Heck, one poster even said Obama was a bad president because he didn't get the family dog from a pound... On 9/17/2010 8:50 AM, D. Peter Maus wrote: No, he was commenting that Obama promised that he was going to get his dog from the pound, and then bought a purebred from an exclusive breeder. Just another broken promise. Well, I hate to put too fine a point on it...as I don't remember the specific details (because at the time, I thought the dog deal was pretty much a non-issue). When you say "promise", to whom? Under what conditions? Did he swear to it in front of a Supreme Court Justice on George Washington's bible? As Lee Iacocca said to the Mrs, "Nice dodge." You brought up the dog. I didn't say it was an important issue. But it was another broken promise. One of dozens. That was the point. I don't know if you are a parent or not, but sometimes parents do try and please their kids. Maybe there was nothing at the pound that the kids liked. Bottom line...there could be fifty different reasons why they didn't end up getting it from the pound. That's true. But to comment on it isn't racism. To criticize him for it isn't racism. I believe that to a greater or lesser degree (sometimes subtle), racism is indeed a component of the criticism. Someone in his position doesn't make a promise on such an issue, except to appease a political constituency. That's not racial, either. In other words, it was another political promise broken. Yes, I realize that in some cases Obama has lied...and is no doubt the first politician to have ever done so. ;-) It's real easy to throw down the race card in dismissing critics of this President. But it's a cheap shot. No, not a "cheap shot IMHO. Again, because he is not Caucasian, many times racism does enter into the equation -- where in many cases a white president would get a free pass -- or at least not have to tolerate the racial shots. I would respectfully beg to differ. It is abundantly, I say ABUNDANTLY clear, that racism, however subtle, IS a factor. There are some (many?) on this NG for whom Obama can NEVER be right, no matter which side of the fence he is on. That's an interesting leap. So, there's no way race can't be involved? The fact that there are those for whom G.W. Bush can NEVER be right no matter which side he is on? So that's got a racial component? Huh? Obviously not...because W is, well, white. Doesn't mean he can't or shouldn't be criticized, but O is getting "legitimate" criticism PLUS racial criticism ...or criticism at least tinged by racism. The fact that there are those for whom Bill Clinton can NEVER be right no matter which side he is on? That's racial? But criticism of Obama must have a racial factor. Where have I heard that before. I'd say that's a pretty racist remark on its face. You bring up Bush. Yes, he broke promises. He was excoriated for it. I don't recall Jesse Jackson saying that the 'no new taxes' blunder, AND it's subsequent criticisms, were racially motivated. Yet, criticism of Obama for his blunders must be rooted in race? Not necessarily "rooted" but many times tinged. And Bush 43? Where to start. I don't recall anyone suggesting that any criticisms of Bush were motivated by race. Huh? Why would they? To state the obvious, W is white. The hard truth is that politicians lie. They make promises with the intention of breaking them. And make backroom deals. They sell their influence. I'm in Illinois. Politicians rank below gang members, career rapists and lawyers. But nowhere is ANY criticism refuted with accusations of racism. These career criminals are criticized for their actions. Their ethics. Their values. For who they are. And often for who they are not. Race isn't even on the radar. Huh? Not on the radar if you overlook the subtle (and some far from subtle) posts here. You've never seen race on this NG used against O, even the "n" word? Please read the posts here more carefully. "Racism" is the easiest card to throw in this culture today. IT's a hot button issue. And with the first black president in our history, yes, it has been an "issue". And it's a cheap shot. You want to defend Obama? Go for it. You'll have no end of ready participants to such a discussion. A discussion, by the way, that may be productive. Might actually convince some people. Will certainly clarify thinking. And crystalize beliefs. Try discussing the issues. You may find that you're in agreement with many of us. You may find that many are in agreement with you. But as soon as you get backed into a corner by a fact, throw the race card. Please. Show us how evolved you are. D. Peter Maus. Sorry, DP. I may have been unclear. If so, my apologies. OTOH, it may be a comprehension problem on your part. Let me try and clarify: 1) The dog issue has nothing to do with racism -- per se. My point was that people will sling ANYTHING at Obama, no matter whether he is right or wrong or how trivial it is (like the dog) and that in my eyes, at least -some- of it is racially motivated (nothing to do with your 'cheap shot' theory). In other words, if we had a Caucasian president, they would not necessarily sling anything and everything at him including stupid stuff like where he got his dog. 2) I in no way meant to imply that ALL criticism of Obama is racial. That was a rather large leap on your part. A lot of the criticism is not racial; some criticism is well deserved. However, some criticism, albeit sometimes very subtle, does appear to have a racial component. Furthermore, many comments on the NG are *blatantly* racial, up to and including the "n" word. I'm surprised you haven't noticed it (or are just ignoring it). 3) The topic was "broken promises/lying" and you seem to have "accidentally" snipped W's biggest lies from my original post...so for your edification, I've put it back in (seeing as the topic is "presidential lies"): The last presidential lies [from W] cost us TWO bogus wars, a trillion dollars, thousands of US kids dead, more thousands horribly mutilated and tens of thousands of dead innocent civilians. If I had a choice, I'll go with the "lie" about the dog. :-( At least so far, none of O's broken promises have gotten us into the mess that W's lies have. I've explained it as best I'm able. If you think there is no racism towards Obama on this NG, you are certainly entitled to that opinion. I've explained my position, so please feel free to have the last word. |
(OT) : Help Prez Obama Defeat Master-Bation© Massive Unemployment and Federal Aid
On 9/20/2010 5:27 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
At least so far, none of O's broken promises have gotten us into the mess that W's lies have. I've explained it as best I'm able. If you think there is no racism towards Obama on this NG, you are certainly entitled to that opinion. I've explained my position, so please feel free to have the last word. If it were a republi-crat in the office, as I write this, very little would be different. We would still be marching in the same direction. The plans of the NWO and the shadow government would proceed, at each turn of the screw ... it makes no sense to hate obama for what is happening. Come next election, nothing he is doing will be undone, and will continue on in the directions he set their course for--you would simply be handed a bunch of excuses why it was happening ... haven't you been awake though the last half-dozen presidents, or so ... NAFTA was set in when clinton was in, bush furthered it, now obama continues it .... duh! Regards, JS |
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