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Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
BURR,
The American AM & FM Broadcasters to some degree feel they got burned by IBOC "HD" Radio Scheme. The NASB is most likely looking at FCC and International Pressure to start some Shortwave Broadcasting using DRM. The NASB would like to know / what to know if the present Shortwave Radio Listeners will follow and BUY New Shortwave Radios that feature DRM ??? Me thinks that the average Age {Demographics} of Shortwave Radio Listeners (SWLs) and those who are willing to spend the Extra $150 for a new DRM Shortwave Radio are small and getting smaller. NOTE - Above the $150 Cost Range : Gets people to think that a PC/Internet and Satellite is the better deal for the Added Price; and gives better quality Audio plus Video too. *IF* The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters of the World with Government Backing could make and market a 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio like the Redsun RP2100 Radio {C Crane SW} for under US$100 then there would be a World-Wide Market for DRM Shortwave Broadcasters. http://www.ccrane.com/images/large/ccradio-sw.jpg http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2100.html http://www.radiointel.com/review-redsunrp2100.htm NOTE - Not a 12 kHz IF-Output Jack to hook-up to a PC to Decode the DRM Signal -but- Real Built-In DRM in the Radio itself. {no extra techie required} -aka- Just Turn It 'On' and Listen -wrt- Free Over-the-Air Radio* * AM/FM/SW Radio + AC/DC Power + You-the-Listener IMHO - Without a low-cost 'Affordable' DRM 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio designed for the World Market {Available in every Country} there is NO Future for DRM Broadcasting. IBOC has the 'possibility' of HD-Radio "Installs" in many/ most New American Cars & Trucks to act as a Decade Long passive transitioning modus : While DRM Shortwave has No Means To It's End of Gaining General SWL Acceptance and becoming the Average Shortwave Radio Listener's 'normal' way of Receiving Shortwave Radio Broadcasts. PLUS Real Time World-Wide "Audio Content" that was Exclusive to Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is now available via several other forms of Audio and Video Media Transmission : Satellite, Internet, Cellphone, etc ::: The Combination of Audio and Video Media is simply more compelling then Audio Along and Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is simply Audio Along. It's the old story of the Railroads seeing themselves as railroads and not Transportation Companies : Therefore NOT Using their Economic Might to Get Into the Airline Business and Dominate It early-on. Many/Most Government/National Shortwave Radio Broadcasters are NOW! Government/National Media Distributors -via- Satellite Radio & TV; Internet Radio & TV; Cellphone PodCast; and oh yes... some still do some Shortwave Radio Broadcasting too... Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . ~ RHF© *IF* AM & FM Radio are Slowly Dying . . . {Dead But Don't Know It Yet} What Then Can Be Said For Shortwave Radio ? |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/short...2b6837d037eda8 -note- corrected a few typos and misspellings ~ RHF |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 25, 9:52*am, Steve wrote:
On Oct 25, 7:55*am, RHF wrote: Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . http://groups.google.com/group/short...eports/msg/ef2... -note- corrected a few typos and misspellings ~ RHF *. *. On Oct 25, 4:30*am, RHF wrote: BURR, The American AM & FM Broadcasters to some degree feel they got burned by IBOC "HD" Radio Scheme. The NASB is most likely looking at FCC and International Pressure to start some Shortwave Broadcasting using DRM. The NASB would like to know / what to know if the present Shortwave Radio Listeners will follow and BUY New Shortwave Radios that feature DRM ??? Me thinks that the average Age {Demographics} of Shortwave Radio Listeners (SWLs) and those who are willing to spend the Extra $150 for a new DRM Shortwave Radio are small and getting smaller. NOTE - Above the $150 Cost Range : Gets people to think that a PC/Internet and Satellite is the better deal for the Added Price; and gives better quality Audio plus Video too. *IF* The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters of the World with Government Backing could make and market a 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio like the Redsun RP2100 Radio {C Crane SW} for under US$100 then there would be a World-Wide Market for DRM Shortwave Broadcasters.http://www.ccrane.com/images/large/c.../www.universal... NOTE - Not a 12 kHz IF-Output Jack to hook-up to a PC to Decode the DRM Signal -but- Real Built-In DRM in the Radio itself. {no extra techie required} -aka- Just Turn It 'On' and Listen -wrt- Free Over-the-Air Radio* * AM/FM/SW Radio + AC/DC Power + You-the-Listener IMHO - Without a low-cost 'Affordable' DRM 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio designed for the World Market {Available in every Country} there is NO Future for DRM Broadcasting. IBOC has the 'possibility' of HD-Radio "Installs" in many/ most New American Cars & Trucks to act as a Decade Long passive transitioning modus : While DRM Shortwave has No Means To It's End of Gaining General SWL Acceptance and becoming the Average Shortwave Radio Listener's 'normal' way of Receiving Shortwave Radio Broadcasts. PLUS Real Time World-Wide "Audio Content" that was Exclusive to Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is now available via several other forms of Audio and Video Media Transmission : Satellite, Internet, Cellphone, etc ::: The Combination of Audio and Video Media is simply more compelling then Audio Along and *Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is simply Audio Along. It's the old story of the Railroads seeing themselves as railroads and not Transportation Companies : Therefore NOT Using their Economic Might to Get Into the Airline Business and Dominate It early-on. Many/Most Government/National Shortwave Radio Broadcasters are NOW! Government/National Media Distributors -via- Satellite Radio & TV; Internet Radio & TV; Cellphone PodCast; and oh yes... some still do some Shortwave Radio Broadcasting too... Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . ~ RHF© *IF* AM & FM Radio are Slowly Dying . . . {Dead But Don't Know It Yet} What Then Can Be Said For *Shortwave Radio ? *. *. On Oct 22, 2:14 pm, RHF wrote: Take : The NASB 2010 International Shortwave Surveyhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4c8b0d8a0294ae92 One gets the Idea . . . The NASB Survey was really a Survey as to whether you would "Buy" a new DRM Shortwave Radio Receiver . . .http://www.worlddxclub.org.uk/WDXC_NASB-msg.html -or-http://edxcnews.wordpress.com/ *. *. On Oct 23, 6:50 am, "Just Plan Burr" wrote:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...7325d04343247c Sounds like you're right Roy. Read a lot of these "surveys" and they are all the same! Burr *. *. Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . - I'd be willing to spend more money for a radio - that lacks DRM capability. Steve, *IF* Like XM/Sirius Satellite Radio DRM could come up with a simple uniform Plug-and-Play Box. Like the XM Receiver/Antenna for the Eton E1-XM Radio that would be a good 'bridge' between an old non-DRM Radio and an Integrated DRM Radio. The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters have to see some ROI coming out of DRM; or they simply will move on to the Internet Radio & TV and Satellite Radio & TV as their main Technical Means to Their End of Reaching and Communicating with People All Around the World. ~ RHF |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM. . .
On 10/25/2010 4:30 AM, RHF wrote:
... The wife and I have our flatscreens in storage, we have no plans of getting them out. If our shows are not available on the net, we don't watch them. And, lately, I have been just listening to AM on the net, and those stations which provide streams ... NPR is the FM that I grab, on the net .... point being, it is getting hard to not realize the fact we could do without standalone radios ... with probably keep my USB software driven radios, at least for a while longer. DRM is just too silly to be bothered with. I don't think the wife and I will ever want to be bothered with it ... if obama shuts down the internet, I guess we will all have to go back to BBS's. Regards, JS |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 25, 1:16*pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:52*am, Steve wrote: On Oct 25, 7:55*am, RHF wrote: Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . http://groups.google.com/group/short...eports/msg/ef2.... -note- corrected a few typos and misspellings ~ RHF *. *. On Oct 25, 4:30*am, RHF wrote: BURR, The American AM & FM Broadcasters to some degree feel they got burned by IBOC "HD" Radio Scheme. The NASB is most likely looking at FCC and International Pressure to start some Shortwave Broadcasting using DRM. The NASB would like to know / what to know if the present Shortwave Radio Listeners will follow and BUY New Shortwave Radios that feature DRM ??? Me thinks that the average Age {Demographics} of Shortwave Radio Listeners (SWLs) and those who are willing to spend the Extra $150 for a new DRM Shortwave Radio are small and getting smaller. NOTE - Above the $150 Cost Range : Gets people to think that a PC/Internet and Satellite is the better deal for the Added Price; and gives better quality Audio plus Video too. *IF* The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters of the World with Government Backing could make and market a 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio like the Redsun RP2100 Radio {C Crane SW} for under US$100 then there would be a World-Wide Market for DRM Shortwave Broadcasters.http://www.ccrane.com/images/large/c.../www.universal... NOTE - Not a 12 kHz IF-Output Jack to hook-up to a PC to Decode the DRM Signal -but- Real Built-In DRM in the Radio itself. {no extra techie required} -aka- Just Turn It 'On' and Listen -wrt- Free Over-the-Air Radio* * AM/FM/SW Radio + AC/DC Power + You-the-Listener IMHO - Without a low-cost 'Affordable' DRM 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio designed for the World Market {Available in every Country} there is NO Future for DRM Broadcasting. IBOC has the 'possibility' of HD-Radio "Installs" in many/ most New American Cars & Trucks to act as a Decade Long passive transitioning modus : While DRM Shortwave has No Means To It's End of Gaining General SWL Acceptance and becoming the Average Shortwave Radio Listener's 'normal' way of Receiving Shortwave Radio Broadcasts. PLUS Real Time World-Wide "Audio Content" that was Exclusive to Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is now available via several other forms of Audio and Video Media Transmission : Satellite, Internet, Cellphone, etc ::: The Combination of Audio and Video Media is simply more compelling then Audio Along and *Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is simply Audio Along. It's the old story of the Railroads seeing themselves as railroads and not Transportation Companies : Therefore NOT Using their Economic Might to Get Into the Airline Business and Dominate It early-on. Many/Most Government/National Shortwave Radio Broadcasters are NOW! Government/National Media Distributors -via- Satellite Radio & TV; Internet Radio & TV; Cellphone PodCast; and oh yes... some still do some Shortwave Radio Broadcasting too... Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . ~ RHF© *IF* AM & FM Radio are Slowly Dying . . . {Dead But Don't Know It Yet} What Then Can Be Said For *Shortwave Radio ? *. *. On Oct 22, 2:14 pm, RHF wrote: Take : The NASB 2010 International Shortwave Surveyhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4c8b0d8a0294ae92 One gets the Idea . . . The NASB Survey was really a Survey as to whether you would "Buy" a new DRM Shortwave Radio Receiver . . .http://www.worlddxclub.org.uk/WDXC_NASB-msg.html -or-http://edxcnews.wordpress.com/ *. *. On Oct 23, 6:50 am, "Just Plan Burr" wrote:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...7325d04343247c Sounds like you're right Roy. Read a lot of these "surveys" and they are all the same! Burr *. *. Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . - I'd be willing to spend more money for a radio - that lacks DRM capability. Steve, *IF* Like XM/Sirius Satellite Radio DRM could come up with a simple uniform Plug-and-Play Box. Like the XM Receiver/Antenna for the Eton E1-XM Radio that would be a good 'bridge' between an old non-DRM Radio and an Integrated DRM Radio. The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters have to see some ROI coming out of DRM; or they simply will move on to the Internet Radio & TV and Satellite Radio & TV as their main Technical Means to Their End of Reaching and Communicating with People All Around the World. ~ RHF *. *. In that case I think they'd better forget about DRM. A smarter move would be for broadcasters to move to single sideband operations. This might not give them a larger audience, but it would sure allow them to cut a lot of their expenses. All they'd really need is a stock ham transceiver and a dipole. And I'll bet that at this moment there are more small receivers capable of receiving SSB than DRM. |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM .. .
Steve wrote:
In that case I think they'd better forget about DRM. A smarter move would be for broadcasters to move to single sideband operations. This might not give them a larger audience, but it would sure allow them to cut a lot of their expenses. All they'd really need is a stock ham transceiver and a dipole. And I'll bet that at this moment there are more small receivers capable of receiving SSB than DRM. Even better would be double-sideband-reduce-carrier. It's easy to generate with DSP and sort of in between SSB and AM. It's basicly USB and LSB at the same time. Twice the cost of SSB in terms of power and bandwidth, but far less in power than AM. It has the advantage that a standard AM receiver has no trouble with it. The Sony IFC-2010 (ICF-2001D) was born because Sony had a warehouse of AM stereo decoder chips and no market for them. At this point it would not cost a lot of money to make a dedicated DSP chip that would decode AM, DSBRC, and SSB at an IF of 445kHz. Possibly a brodcasters or radio manufacturer's association could get together and bankroll it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM To help restaurants, as part of the "stimulus package", everyone must order dessert. As part of the socialized health plan, you are forbidden to eat it. :-) |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 30, 4:44*pm, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote: Steve wrote: In that case I think they'd better forget about DRM. A smarter move would be for broadcasters to move to single sideband operations. This might not give them a larger audience, but it would sure allow them to cut a lot of their expenses. All they'd really need is a stock ham transceiver and a dipole. And I'll bet that at this moment there are more small receivers capable of receiving SSB than DRM. Even better would be double-sideband-reduce-carrier. It's easy to generate with DSP and sort of in between SSB and AM. It's basicly USB and LSB at the same time. Twice the cost of SSB in terms of power and bandwidth, but far less in power than AM. It has the advantage that a standard AM receiver has no trouble with it. The Sony IFC-2010 (ICF-2001D) was born because Sony had a warehouse of AM stereo decoder chips and no market for them. At this point it would not cost a lot of money to make a dedicated DSP chip that would decode AM, DSBRC, and SSB at an IF of 445kHz. Possibly a brodcasters or radio manufacturer's association could get together and bankroll it. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM To help restaurants, as part of the "stimulus package", everyone must order dessert. As part of the socialized health plan, you are forbidden to eat it. :-) Indeed. Yes, I think an approach like this would make much more sense for broadcasters given the business realities they currently face. |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 30, 1:25*pm, Steve wrote:
On Oct 25, 1:16*pm, RHF wrote: On Oct 25, 9:52*am, Steve wrote: On Oct 25, 7:55*am, RHF wrote: Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . http://groups.google.com/group/short...eports/msg/ef2... -note- corrected a few typos and misspellings ~ RHF *. *. On Oct 25, 4:30*am, RHF wrote: BURR, The American AM & FM Broadcasters to some degree feel they got burned by IBOC "HD" Radio Scheme. The NASB is most likely looking at FCC and International Pressure to start some Shortwave Broadcasting using DRM. The NASB would like to know / what to know if the present Shortwave Radio Listeners will follow and BUY New Shortwave Radios that feature DRM ??? Me thinks that the average Age {Demographics} of Shortwave Radio Listeners (SWLs) and those who are willing to spend the Extra $150 for a new DRM Shortwave Radio are small and getting smaller. NOTE - Above the $150 Cost Range : Gets people to think that a PC/Internet and Satellite is the better deal for the Added Price; and gives better quality Audio plus Video too. *IF* The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters of the World with Government Backing could make and market a 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio like the Redsun RP2100 Radio {C Crane SW} for under US$100 then there would be a World-Wide Market for DRM Shortwave Broadcasters.http://www.ccrane.com/images/large/c.../www.universal... NOTE - Not a 12 kHz IF-Output Jack to hook-up to a PC to Decode the DRM Signal -but- Real Built-In DRM in the Radio itself. {no extra techie required} -aka- Just Turn It 'On' and Listen -wrt- Free Over-the-Air Radio* * AM/FM/SW Radio + AC/DC Power + You-the-Listener IMHO - Without a low-cost 'Affordable' DRM 'portable' AM & FM Shortwave Radio designed for the World Market {Available in every Country} there is NO Future for DRM Broadcasting. IBOC has the 'possibility' of HD-Radio "Installs" in many/ most New American Cars & Trucks to act as a Decade Long passive transitioning modus : While DRM Shortwave has No Means To It's End of Gaining General SWL Acceptance and becoming the Average Shortwave Radio Listener's 'normal' way of Receiving Shortwave Radio Broadcasts. PLUS Real Time World-Wide "Audio Content" that was Exclusive to Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is now available via several other forms of Audio and Video Media Transmission : Satellite, Internet, Cellphone, etc ::: The Combination of Audio and Video Media is simply more compelling then Audio Along and *Shortwave Radio Broadcasting is simply Audio Along. It's the old story of the Railroads seeing themselves as railroads and not Transportation Companies : Therefore NOT Using their Economic Might to Get Into the Airline Business and Dominate It early-on. Many/Most Government/National Shortwave Radio Broadcasters are NOW! Government/National Media Distributors -via- Satellite Radio & TV; Internet Radio & TV; Cellphone PodCast; and oh yes... some still do some Shortwave Radio Broadcasting too... Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . ~ RHF© *IF* AM & FM Radio are Slowly Dying . . . {Dead But Don't Know It Yet} What Then Can Be Said For *Shortwave Radio ? *. *. On Oct 22, 2:14 pm, RHF wrote: Take : The NASB 2010 International Shortwave Surveyhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/4c8b0d8a0294ae92 One gets the Idea . . . The NASB Survey was really a Survey as to whether you would "Buy" a new DRM Shortwave Radio Receiver . . .http://www.worlddxclub.org.uk/WDXC_NASB-msg.html -or-http://edxcnews.wordpress.com/ *. *. On Oct 23, 6:50 am, "Just Plan Burr" wrote:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...7325d04343247c Sounds like you're right Roy. Read a lot of these "surveys" and they are all the same! Burr *. *. Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . . - I'd be willing to spend more money for a radio - that lacks DRM capability. Steve, *IF* Like XM/Sirius Satellite Radio DRM could come up with a simple uniform Plug-and-Play Box. Like the XM Receiver/Antenna for the Eton E1-XM Radio that would be a good 'bridge' between an old non-DRM Radio and an Integrated DRM Radio. The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters have to see some ROI coming out of DRM; or they simply will move on to the Internet Radio & TV and Satellite Radio & TV as their main Technical Means to Their End of Reaching and Communicating with People All Around the World. ~ RHF *. *. - In that case I think they'd better forget about DRM. A smarter move - would be for broadcasters to move to single sideband operations. This - might not give them a larger audience, but it would sure allow them to - cut a lot of their expenses. All they'd really need is a stock ham - transceiver and a dipole. And I'll bet that at this moment there are - more small receivers capable of receiving SSB than DRM. Yes sometimes the better "Idea" is the simpler 'idea' : DRM requires a more complex Radio Transmission process. Plus DRM requires a more complex Radio Receiver adding a higher initial cost to the Radio Listener to Buy the Radio to hear the Broadcast. ~ RHF |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 30, 1:44*pm, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
wrote: - - Steve wrote: - - In that case I think they'd better forget about DRM. A smarter move - - would be for broadcasters to move to single sideband operations. This - - might not give them a larger audience, but it would sure allow them to - - cut a lot of their expenses. All they'd really need is a stock ham - - transceiver and a dipole. And I'll bet that at this moment there are - - more small receivers capable of receiving SSB than DRM. - Even better would be double-sideband-reduce-carrier. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...60d4ae9e1f1be4 The Better "Idea" Gets Better ! DSB and Suppress {Reduced} Carrier has many of the Advantages of SSB : Plus the better Sound Quality of AM Radio. - It's easy to generate with DSP and sort of in between - SSB and AM. YES - PLus any current AM Radio or SSB Receiver can also receive DSB Transmissions. Backward compatible with AM Radios and SSB Receivers. - It's basicly USB and LSB at the same time. YES - WWV/WWVH uses DSB while CHU uses USB. - Twice the cost of SSB in terms of power and bandwidth, - but far less in power than AM. Redirect the Wasted AM Power to the Side-Bands 100KW AM = 50KW Carrier + 25KW LSB + 25 KW USB 100KW DSB = + 40 KW LSB + 40 KW USB & 20 KW SRAMC* * Suppressed {Reduced} AM Carrier -result- Same Total Power Level : But More Power To The Content : And A More Powerful Audio Stream. - It has the advantage that a standard AM receiver - has no trouble with it. Yes Yes Yes - Backward compatible with AM Radios and SSB Receivers. Plus DSB has the better Sound Quality of AM Radio and even the potential of Stereo or at least 'enhanced' Mono. - The Sony IFC-2010 (ICF-2001D) was born because - Sony had a warehouse of AM stereo decoder chips - and no market for them. Yes that brings up the 2nd Point the AM Stereo Decoder Chip Designs can be used to Detect and Receive DSB and Use it as with an AM-SYNC Function; and even the potential of Stereo or at least 'enhanced' Mono. - At this point it would not cost a lot of money to make - a dedicated DSP chip that would decode AM, DSBRC, - and SSB at an IF of 445kHz. As you have point-out SONY already has the design. Plus Drake/Eton/Grundig also has the Designs; along with several others... It's just a matter of starting-up production and producing a Million Chips a Month for a Year and Warehousing them and then Distributing them as they sell to meet the need... - a brodcasters or radio manufacturer's association could - get together and bankroll it. Better a Consortium of Governments could simply Mandate DSB Braodcasting and Create-The-Need : Then the Capital would Flow to It Naturally. OBTW-IMHO : Versus IBOC for the AM/MW Radio Band DSB is the Better Idea ! -cause- Once you have the DSB Chips in the 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios* : Using DSB in AM/MW Radio function is a No Cost No Brainer ! * +90% of the Sales of all Shortwave Radio World Wide. Geoff. - -- - Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM - To help restaurants, as part of the "stimulus package", everyone must order - dessert. As part of the socialized health plan, you are forbidden to eat it. :-) the better idea gets better ~ RHF |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 30, 3:25*pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 30, 1:44*pm, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:- - Steve wrote: - - In that case I think they'd better forget about DRM. A smarter move - - would be for broadcasters to move to single sideband operations. This - - might not give them a larger audience, but it would sure allow them to - - cut a lot of their expenses. All they'd really need is a stock ham - - transceiver and a dipole. And I'll bet that at this moment there are - - more small receivers capable of receiving SSB than DRM. - Even better would be double-sideband-reduce-carrier.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...60d4ae9e1f1be4 The Better "Idea" Gets Better ! DSB and Suppress {Reduced} Carrier has many of the Advantages of SSB : Plus the better Sound Quality of AM Radio. - It's easy to generate with DSP and sort of in between - SSB and AM. YES - PLus any current AM Radio or SSB Receiver can also receive DSB Transmissions. Backward compatible with AM Radios and SSB Receivers. - It's basicly USB and LSB at the same time. - YES - WWV/WWVH uses DSB while CHU uses USB. WWV/WWVH uses DSB* on 2.5 MHz; 5&10&15&20 MHz http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/wwv.cfm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWV_%28...oadcast_format * Double Side-Band Amplitude Modulation [DSB-AM] Most times the AM-SYNC function on my GS800-M Radio enhances the WWV Signal's Audio and does improve it's Listenability. CHU uses USB* on 3330 kHz; 7850 kHz & 14670 kHz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHU_%28radio_station%29 * Upper-Side-Band [USB] The CHU Time Signal is AM; with the LSB suppressed (Transmission Type H3E) ~ RHF WWV "The Tick !" : All 'The Time' : All The Time ! ? A Clear Channel Station ? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e125277ed24955 |
Web-Based "Internet' TV {Video Content} May Be An 'Option' That WeAll Should Consider...
On Oct 30, 6:53*pm, wrote:
RHF wrote: - The wife and I have our flatscreens in storage, we have no plans of - getting them out. If our shows are not available on the net, we don't - watch them. I'm getting to that point as well.. In fact I do not have ANY TV right now and was kind of shopping for a new flatscreen model BUT.... I am thinking it might be best to buy a bigger PC monitor for my desktop instead and watch THAT! That is.... move desktop and big monitor in the living room... What you say? The Sony "PlayStation 3" has a Web Browser feature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3 The Nintendo "Wii" also has some Internet functionality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii Web Browser feature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browser So... If you have an existing ISP and an 32" HDTVs... A Flat Screen PC Monitor around 24" would be good for Viewing Internet provided Video Content at a Desk-Top PC. [a 2~3 Foot Viewing Distance] But most likely a 32" HDTV connected to PC that is Connected to the Internet would be better for setting down in a room and viewing from across the room. [a 7~12 Foot Viewing Distance] The HP TouchSmart Monitors might be nice... http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/touchsmart/ The Bigger Samsung 320TSN-2 : 32" LCD TV/Monitor http://www.samsung.com/us/business/c.../LH32TCUMBC/ZA We had some in-house Care Providers who were keen to Watch Video Content on their iPhone size and type Video Players -that-was-just-not-for-me- But then I don't like Listening to 'Tunes' on an iPod with Ear-Buds either : Give me two Loud Speakers across the Room and an Easy-Chair to set-in and relax to the Music too... mostly depends on the-how and the-where of you wanting to 'view' the "video content" ~ RHF |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 31, 2:36*am, Krypsis wrote:
On 31/10/2010 4:54 AM, John Smith wrote: On 10/25/2010 4:30 AM, RHF wrote: * ... The wife and I have our flatscreens in storage, we have no plans of getting them out. If our shows are not available on the net, we don't watch them. And, lately, I have been just listening to AM on the net, and those stations which provide streams ... NPR is the FM that I grab, on the net .... point being, it is getting hard to not realize the fact we could do without standalone radios ... with probably keep my USB software driven radios, at least for a while longer. DRM is just too silly to be bothered with. I don't think the wife and I will ever want to be bothered with it ... if obama shuts down the internet, I guess we will all have to go back to BBS's. Regards, JS I don't know about you but the idea of carting an internet enabled device around just to listen to the radio does not thrill me in the least. Whenever I am working out in the backyard, my Sangean 505 is with me and tuned in. Whenever I travel, my Sony 7600 is with me and also tuned in. Right now I am sitting at my computer and my Sangean is beside me tuned to BC AM, the cricket in fact. The only time I really listen to internet radio is when I want to listen to something too distant for broadcast but unavailable on shortwave. I will continue to use broadcast radios for the foreseeable future! Krypsis So far the limit to Internet Radio {web-based-radio} is just how 'Wide' {Coverage Area} is your WiFi : at Home; at Work in your Car/Truck; at the Hotel you are staying at . . . and the location of your next Hot-Spot ! Cellphone and iPod type G3 down-loads with subsequent Play-Back would seem to give more 'mobility' like a Pocket {portable} AM/FM/SW Radio. But mostly that is not Real-Time and for the most part AM/FM/SW Radio does offer Real-Time where you are / anywhere. it's 'free' over-the-air am & fm shortwave radio and it is as easy as . . . just listening ~ RHF |
Web-Radio "Internet' Radio May Be An 'Option' That We All ShouldConsider...
On 10/30/2010 4:57 PM, RHF wrote:
... "JS" - Don't BBS's rely on Land-Lines and doesn't Prez Obama also have potential control over them too . . . ... Any fascist/dictator government can become a real pain. Just look at the old SW jammers you used to find dotting the band spreads. And, yeah, you have to use phone to run a bbs, either landline, cell or satellite. Perhaps we will have to go real retro and use the old CB bands with data encryption schemes; My crystal ball stopped working, all it shows is gray clouds. I kinda liked the old BBS's, now-a-days, it would be like waiting for the pony express though! Anyway, shutting down all communication would just be suicidal--I am not saying these fool criminals and treasonous-individuals we have allowed into public servant offices aren't VERY severe psycho-death-suicide-freaks--the insanity they have demonstrated is truly amazing ... but, if no one steps up to remove them and restore sanity, soon, it might be awhile before enough, get enough nerve to, do the right thing. Regards, JS |
Web-Radio "Internet' Radio May Be An 'Option' That We All ShouldConsider...
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Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM. . .
On 10/31/2010 2:36 AM, Krypsis wrote:
... I will continue to use broadcast radios for the foreseeable future! Krypsis The types of situations you name, camping in the High Sierra, having to live in a survival situation eating food off the land, etc. leaves one little choice but for an old am/fm/sw/??? type radio. Of course one will remain with ones gold, food, blankets, tents, go-bags, etc. However, with the coverage of some cell suppliers, I have been in some pretty remote areas and still have net access ... it has surprised me and I expect it to get only get better technology and hardware ... although, by then, we may not have the money, resources, infrastructure, etc. to implement the upgrades ... Regards, JS |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM. . .
On 10/30/2010 1:44 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
... At this point it would not cost a lot of money to make a dedicated DSP chip that would decode AM, DSBRC, and SSB at an IF of 445kHz. Possibly a brodcasters or radio manufacturer's association could get together and bankroll it. Geoff. Might just be better to a "dual system." AM would have to go, but you could run, say, USB analog and use the LSB for a digital carrier ... people would yell, scream, pull their hair out, etc. ... but we did go all digital TV and just ram it down the oppose'rs throats ... just look at the tons of old analog TV's sitting around that you can't even get a digital box to slap on now ... never say never, to anything ... Regards, JS |
Web-Radio "Internet' Radio May Be An 'Option' That We All ShouldConsider...
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Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Oct 31, 5:41*am, John Smith wrote:
On 10/31/2010 2:36 AM, Krypsis wrote: * ... I will continue to use broadcast radios for the foreseeable future! Krypsis The types of situations you name, camping in the High Sierra, having to live in a survival situation eating food off the land, etc. leaves one little choice but for an old am/fm/sw/??? type radio. *Of course one will remain with ones gold, food, blankets, tents, go-bags, etc. However, with the coverage of some cell suppliers, I have been in some pretty remote areas and still have net access ... it has surprised me and I expect it to get only get better technology and hardware ... although, by then, we may not have the money, resources, infrastructure, etc. to implement the upgrades ... Regards, JS Hard to "Track" you with an old AM/FM/SW Radio but they could easily 'ping' your location when you use your Cellphone. |
Is There Any Future For Shortwave Radio : With or Without DRM . . .
On Nov 1, 1:42*pm, RHF wrote:
Hard to "Track" you with an old AM/FM/SW Radio but they could easily 'ping' your location when you use your Cellphone. Quite so. It's why spy agencies still use numbers stations to disseminate messages to their agents. It is also why this scenario: The Shortwave Radio Broadcasters have to see some ROI coming out of DRM; or they simply will move on to the Internet Radio & TV and Satellite Radio & TV as their main Technical Means to Their End of Reaching and Communicating with People All Around the World. .... probably won't come to pass in the immediate future (if at all). It's too easy to track people using the Internet (or simply cut them off). Satellites aren't there yet (who wants to pack a 60cm dish in their luggage). When there is a good choice** of free to air* direct broadcast satellites that are as easy and simple to receive as Sirius currently is, then MAYBE shortwave will truly be obsolete. (Maybe. It is technologically feasible to shoot missiles at satellites, after all.) Until then, a message that can be received on shortwave with poor audio quality beats a message that cannot be received at all via Internet or a satellite. Anyone who has bought into the DRM hype and is ready to leave shortwave in a huff will eventually and to their regret end up realizing this. * Pay to view won't work; the same governments that don't want "their" citizens listening to certain messages will threaten to cut off payments from within their borders to foreign pay DBS satellite services that fail to muzzle the messages they (such governments) find offensive. The only way you can broadcast messages to areas where governments don't want them heard is to give them away. ** Several dozen providers, both publicly and privately owned, with ownership based in a wide range of nations, not all of who ideologically see eye to eye. If the USA wants to cut off a certain message, that message has to be able to go to a Venezuelan (or Russian, or Chinese, or wherever) DBS satellite serving the same target area. (Swap nation names as you see fit here; all examples are equally valid.) Anything less than that standard means shortwave still has a role to play. -- David Barts Portland, OR |
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