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dave November 15th 10 02:49 AM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
cosmic rays.

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite

David Barts[_2_] November 15th 10 04:10 AM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 14, 6:49*pm, dave wrote:
It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
cosmic rays.

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite


Nothing new; it's been doing that for billions of years already.

In related news, eventually the Sun is going to turn into a red giant
and engulf the Earth, thus utterly destroying it.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

dave November 15th 10 04:03 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
David Barts wrote:
On Nov 14, 6:49 pm, wrote:
It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
cosmic rays.

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite


Nothing new; it's been doing that for billions of years already.

In related news, eventually the Sun is going to turn into a red giant
and engulf the Earth, thus utterly destroying it.

Wrong! We are entering a part of the galaxy that is relatively dense
and we don't know what will happen. This is uncharted territory.

David Barts[_2_] November 15th 10 05:38 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 15, 8:03*am, dave wrote:
David Barts wrote:
On Nov 14, 6:49 pm, *wrote:
It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
cosmic rays.


http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite


Nothing new; it's been doing that for billions of years already.


In related news, eventually the Sun is going to turn into a red giant
and engulf the Earth, thus utterly destroying it.


Wrong! *We are entering a part of the galaxy that is relatively dense
and we don't know what will happen. This is uncharted territory.


There is nothing I see on that linked page to back up that assertion.

Moreover, how exactly are we "entering a part of the galaxy that is
relatively dense"? We're on one of the rotating spiral arms of the
Milky way. We're moving at pretty much the same speed as the rest of
the arm. It's very hard to "enter" a part of the galaxy we're pacing
at the same speed.

Absent any links that actually back up what you're trying to assert, I
find your assertions to be highly questionable.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

dave November 15th 10 07:31 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
David Barts wrote:


Moreover, how exactly are we "entering a part of the galaxy that is
relatively dense"? We're on one of the rotating spiral arms of the
Milky way. We're moving at pretty much the same speed as the rest of
the arm. It's very hard to "enter" a part of the galaxy we're pacing
at the same speed.

Absent any links that actually back up what you're trying to assert, I
find your assertions to be highly questionable.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR


More to come

The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
sunspot activity.

This is the first of the related dust storms that has been seriously
monitored by a spacecraft.

Some day, the influx could get worse. The solar system is plowing toward
the fringes of a galactic cloud known as the G-cloud.

"The time of the entry into the G-cloud is unknown, but is expected to
occur any time in the next 10,000 years," Landgraf said. "There will be
a constant increase [in dust rates], because the G-cloud is more dense
than the local interstellar cloud that is now surrounding our Sun."

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...rm_030814.html

David Barts[_2_] November 15th 10 10:24 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 15, 11:31*am, dave wrote:

The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
sunspot activity.


These are two distinct phenomena. The solar wind is not the same thing
as an intrastellar dust cloud. There was nothing in the link you
furnished that indicated the increased amount of intrastellar dust
would accelerate the rate of atmospheric depletion (which is such a
minute fraction of the atmosphere per year that it's of no immediate
threat).

And did you notice the statement in that article that no serious
consequences are expected from passing through that dust cloud? There
*might* be a slight increase in the number of visible meteors
("shooting stars") at night, that's about all they anticipate.

Hardly a doomsday scenario. In fact, seeing more shooting stars at
night sounds like a plus.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

dave November 16th 10 04:46 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
David Barts wrote:
On Nov 15, 11:31 am, wrote:

The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
sunspot activity.


These are two distinct phenomena. The solar wind is not the same thing
as an intrastellar dust cloud. There was nothing in the link you
furnished that indicated the increased amount of intrastellar dust
would accelerate the rate of atmospheric depletion (which is such a
minute fraction of the atmosphere per year that it's of no immediate
threat).


I said no such thing. I said the atmosphere would have reduced ability
to protect us from cosmic rays.

http://www.ibex.swri.edu/


David Barts[_2_] November 16th 10 05:17 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 16, 8:46*am, dave wrote:
David Barts wrote:
On Nov 15, 11:31 am, *wrote:


The solar system is always plowing through interstellar material. The
Sun's giant magnetic field thwarts much of the dust from entering the
solar system. But the magnetic field weakens periodically, on a cycle
that lasts roughly 22-years. The cycle is related to an 11-year cycle of
sunspot activity.


These are two distinct phenomena. The solar wind is not the same thing
as an intrastellar dust cloud. There was nothing in the link you
furnished that indicated the increased amount of intrastellar dust
would accelerate the rate of atmospheric depletion (which is such a
minute fraction of the atmosphere per year that it's of no immediate
threat).


I said no such thing.


Actually, you did. You said it was "getting troublesome" and that it
"washes away parts of the atmosphere". If part of the atmosphere is
getting "washed away", that's depletion.

I said the atmosphere would have reduced ability
to protect us from cosmic rays.


Well, did you say the atmosphere was being "washed away", or didn't
you? Make up your mind.

http://www.ibex.swri.edu/


Yet another link that contains nothing immediately relevant to what
you are claiming.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

John Harbl November 16th 10 06:28 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On 11/16/10 1:34 PM, dave wrote:


Yet another link that contains nothing immediately relevant to what
you are claiming.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR


Bye donkeydicks


Your spelling is atrocious, and everyone knows that horsecock is the
smart investment right now anyway. So there.

- J.

dave November 16th 10 06:34 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 


Yet another link that contains nothing immediately relevant to what
you are claiming.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR


Bye donkeydicks

m II November 16th 10 10:30 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On 10-11-16 11:28 AM, John Harbl wrote:


Bye donkeydicks


Your spelling is atrocious, and everyone knows that horsecock is the
smart investment right now anyway. So there.





Not when it's a Bullish market.




mike

RHF November 17th 10 03:23 AM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 16, 2:30*pm, m II wrote:
On 10-11-16 11:28 AM, John Harbl wrote:

Bye donkeydicks


Your spelling is atrocious, and everyone knows that horsecock is the
smart investment right now anyway. So there.


- Not when it's a Bullish market.
-
- mike

? Bull Dong !

RHF November 17th 10 03:28 AM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 15, 8:03*am, dave wrote:
David Barts wrote:
On Nov 14, 6:49 pm, *wrote:
It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
cosmic rays.


http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite


Nothing new; it's been doing that for billions of years already.


In related news, eventually the Sun is going to turn into a red giant
and engulf the Earth, thus utterly destroying it.


- Wrong! *
- We are entering a part of the galaxy
- that is relatively dense and we don't
- know what will happen.
- This is uncharted territory.

Dave on a Galactic Scale of Time : Let Us All
Know What Happens in a Million Years . . .

-if- you are still around ~ RHF

??? anyone thinking global warming hysteria ???

Steve November 17th 10 06:36 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 14, 9:49*pm, dave wrote:
It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
cosmic rays.

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite


I'm off to Burlington Coat factory to pick up a Solar Wind Breaker.

RHF November 17th 10 06:45 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 17, 10:36*am, Steve wrote:
On Nov 14, 9:49*pm, dave wrote:

It washes away parts of the upper atmosphere leaving us exposed to more
cosmic rays.


http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html#addwebsite


- I'm off to Burlington Coat factory
- to pick up a Solar Wind Breaker.

-rotfl-

Breaker Breaker Ch 19

Anyone out-there smelling what I smelling . . .

OK - Who Done Passed Some 'Solar Wind' ?

One Nation Under Siege !
http://www.undersiegemovie.com/
Their Mission Is Simple . . .
http://www.undersiegemovie.com/
Defect The New World Order !

John Harbl November 17th 10 07:37 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On 11/16/10 5:30 PM, m II wrote:
On 10-11-16 11:28 AM, John Harbl wrote:


Bye donkeydicks


Your spelling is atrocious, and everyone knows that horsecock is the
smart investment right now anyway. So there.





Not when it's a Bullish market.


But it's all about what the market will bear.

*rimshot*

- J.

David Barts[_2_] November 17th 10 08:34 PM

Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
 
On Nov 16, 7:28*pm, RHF wrote:

??? anyone thinking global warming hysteria ???


Unlike Dave's hyperventilations, there's actually evidence for
anthropogenic global warming.

Unfortunately, the same political crowd that tends to have difficulty
with scientific evidence undermining the creation myth in the Book of
Genesis tends to also have difficulty with the evidence for AGW.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

RHF November 18th 10 05:35 PM

Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome -wrt- ClimateChange -aka- Global Warming -oops- Climate-Gate
 
On Nov 17, 3:08 pm, David Barts
wrote:
On Nov 17, 2:18 pm, RHF wrote:
On Nov 17, 12:34 pm, David Barts
wrote:
- - On Nov 16, 7:28 pm, RHF wrote:
- - ??? anyone thinking global warming hysteria ???


- Unlike Dave's hyperventilations,
- there's actually evidence for anthropogenic global warming.
-
- Unfortunately, the same political crowd that tends to
- have difficulty with scientific evidence undermining
- the creation myth in the Book of Genesis tends to
- also have difficulty with the evidence for AGW.
-
- --
- David Barts
- Portland, OR


David Barts - "anthropogenic global warming"


David Barts - "creation myth"


David Barts,
So... You Believe In The 'Global Warming' Myth
-and- The Darwin "Human Evolution" Myth
myth-on,,, Myth-On... MYTH-ON ! ! !


Science, not myth.

keep the 'faith' oh true-believe ~ RHF


David Barts ?anthropogenic?


Crack open a dictionary; it might do you good.



Was this 'Anthropogenic' Math done with the
Doctored-Up {Bogus} DATA from the very same
Bought-and-Paid-for British CRU and other
[links to debunked lies snipped]


- - Clearly There Is Room For Reasonable Doubt...
- - -for- Those Who Would Think To Reason
- - -versus- Believing "In The Name of Science" On Faith

- Only to right-wing idiots and other assorted loonies.
- Communism had its Lysenkoists; modern-day
- conservatism has its global-warming deniers.

David Barts - "right-wing idiots"

David Barts - "assorted loonies"

David Barts[_2_] November 19th 10 06:03 PM

Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome -wrt- ClimateChange -aka- Global Warming -oops- Climate-Gate
 
On Nov 18, 9:35*am, RHF wrote:
- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When An Ever So Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal
Democrat Socialist Starts Fascist Name Calling*.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8979fbe8546cfa
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional
+ Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote :
To Disguise Their Complete Inability To Carry The
Argument Forward. -that-is-how-i-see-it- ~ RHF©


That's truly rich, considering your posting history. But, I suppose
you can come up with a good reason why it's OK for you to call names
and not for anyone else. It's the right-wing motto for just about
everything: "it's OK for me to do it to other people but it's evil and
unjust when others do it to me."

And the Climategate stuff *has* been debunked:

UK Parliament concluded it had no bearing on the factual nature of
those scientists' conclusions:
http://www.publications.parliament.u.../387/38708.htm

Independent inquiry commissioned by the Univ. of East Anglia concluded
the same thing:
http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/...ssment%20Panel

Factcheck.org concurs:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/

--
David Barts
Portland, OR

RHF November 19th 10 08:05 PM

Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome -wrt- ClimateChange -aka- Global Warming -oops- Climate-Gate
 
On Nov 19, 10:03*am, David Barts
wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:35*am, RHF wrote:

- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When An Ever So Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal
Democrat Socialist Starts Fascist Name Calling*.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8979fbe8546cfa
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional
+ Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote :
To Disguise Their Complete Inability To Carry The
Argument Forward. -that-is-how-i-see-it- ~ RHF©


That's truly rich, considering your posting history. But, I suppose
you can come up with a good reason why it's OK for you to call names
and not for anyone else. It's the right-wing motto for just about
everything: "it's OK for me to do it to other people but it's evil and
unjust when others do it to me."

And the Climategate stuff *has* been debunked:

UK Parliament concluded it had no bearing on the factual nature of
those scientists' conclusions:http://www.publications.parliament.u...ect/cmsctech/3...

Independent inquiry commissioned by the Univ. of East Anglia concluded
the same thing:http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/.../Report%20of%2...

Factcheck.org concurs:http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/

--
David Barts
Portland, OR


David Barts,

You are still buying it to the Global Warming
Manufactured Data and the Big Lie ~ RHF

Even Prez Obama has ordered the Obama White
House to NOT use the 'tainted' brand name
"Global Warming" and to start using the new
brand name "Climate Change Disruption "
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...te-disruption/

disruptively yours ~ RHF

David Barts[_2_] November 19th 10 08:54 PM

Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome -wrt- ClimateChange -aka- Global Warming -oops- Climate-Gate
 
On Nov 19, 12:05*pm, RHF wrote:
On Nov 19, 10:03*am, David Barts
wrote:





On Nov 18, 9:35*am, RHF wrote:


- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When An Ever So Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal
Democrat Socialist Starts Fascist Name Calling*.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8979fbe8546cfa
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional
+ Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote :
To Disguise Their Complete Inability To Carry The
Argument Forward. -that-is-how-i-see-it- ~ RHF©


That's truly rich, considering your posting history. But, I suppose
you can come up with a good reason why it's OK for you to call names
and not for anyone else. It's the right-wing motto for just about
everything: "it's OK for me to do it to other people but it's evil and
unjust when others do it to me."


And the Climategate stuff *has* been debunked:


UK Parliament concluded it had no bearing on the factual nature of
those scientists' conclusions:http://www.publications.parliament.u...ect/cmsctech/3...


Independent inquiry commissioned by the Univ. of East Anglia concluded
the same thing:http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/.../Report%20of%2...


Factcheck.org concurs:http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/


--
David Barts
Portland, OR


David Barts,

You are still buying it to the Global Warming
Manufactured Data and the Big Lie ~ RHF

Even Prez Obama has ordered the Obama White
House to NOT use the 'tainted' brand name
"Global Warming" and to start using the new
brand name "Climate Change Disruption "http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/16/white-house-global-warming...

disruptively yours ~ RHF
*.
Skeptics-R-Us : Solar Wind Getting Troublesome
-wrt- Climate Change -aka- Global Warming
-oops- Climate-Gatehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6482fdf32df41e2a


Yes, yes -- I know: Mendelian genetics is anti-Soviet and anyone who
doesn't see the truth of what Lysenko proclai -- oops, wrong decade,
wrong movement picking a bone with science.

--
David Barts
Portland, OR


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