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I get dizzy when I go up my ladder or stand on a two foot stool.Y'all
can have that high wire stuff!
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Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...
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dave wrote:
Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.


The climbers you know probably climb 100 ft towers?

With this tower that would require 3,400 ft of rope, which probably
weighs more than the tools and will be very difficult to handle.
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Rob wrote:
wrote:
Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.


The climbers you know probably climb 100 ft towers?

With this tower that would require 3,400 ft of rope, which probably
weighs more than the tools and will be very difficult to handle.


You take a messenger rope (3/32") up with you. Once through the pulley
and back down that rope is used to lift a more substantial rope, all
done by the winch on the service truck. This is a safety feature. People
cramp up sometimes.


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On 25 Nov 2010 20:22:50 GMT, Rob wrote:

With this tower that would require 3,400 ft of rope, which probably
weighs more than the tools and will be very difficult to handle.


9mm static line weighs 57 gm/meter. A 1000 meter loop would weight
57kg or 126 lbs. No thanks. Also, the line has quite a bit of wind
resistance and will probably cause the 30 lb tool bag to sway quite a
bit in the wind. However, since he rode the elevator almost to the
top, he might be able to handle a 50 meter single static line to the
top of the elevator.

Nice video. I wonder what they were repairing on top of the tower?
Replacing the tower light?

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If they could put a wind powered generator up there, they could have
more than enough power for the light.
Get Mike Rowe at Dirty Jobs to replace the light bulb.
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WLBT 3's Tower is 1,889 feet, 10 inches tall, and there is a 67 foot
transmitting antenna on top of that.1,956 feet, 10 inches tall.
Better bring some extra rope.

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On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, dave wrote:

Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...


how much does 1700' of line weigh?
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bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, wrote:


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...


how much does 1700' of line weigh?


Press Release

Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video

The following statement is being issued by the National Association of
Tower Erectors (NATE) regarding a dangerous video post erroneously
characterizing “free climbing” on towers as lawful and common.
NATE would like to publicly denounce the message of the recently posted
video depicting two men climbing a broadcast tower. NATE asserts that
the posting of the content was misguided and its messages should not be
given credence by any viewer.
The “Stairway to Heaven” video, reportedly launched by
TheOnLineEngineer.org, suggests that free climbing is an accepted method
of ascending and descending broadcast and telecommunication towers. The
video incorrectly asserts that free climbing is accepted by OSHA and
that “most tower workers climb this way.” The video also depicts as
standard procedure other dangerous and prohibited conduct not condoned
by NATE or OSHA. There are many inaccuracies in this video.
NATE’s efforts to establish a culture of safety in the wireless and
broadcast tower industry encourages everyone involved with tower work to
adhere to recognized safe practices. The video in question is an example
of a climber who is either unaware of recognized safety practices or is
unwilling to take the time to protect his life and the life of his
co-worker in the video. By extension it encourages others to employ
unsafe climbing techniques not endorsed by either OSHA or NATE.
Contractors who refuse to operate safely should never be hired. This
video is one more example of why the efforts of NATE, our membership and
industry partners are imperative.
NATE, the industry’s leader in tower safety, continues to pursue working
relationships with carriers, broadcasters and other tower
owner/operators to ensure that only qualified contractors set foot on
tower sites. The Association has worked with OSHA to develop safety best
practices and educational programs to ensure every tower worker goes
home safely every day. Companies which allow free climbing and other
violations of recognized safety practices are placing lives in danger
and jeopardizing tower work services.
NATE is looking forward to OSHA’s statement clarifying this matter for
the industry.
Work Quality in Question
Employers who allow such practices will likely cut corners on other
aspects of their work. NATE asks, “If a company or employee will cut
corners with the lives of its workers, on what other aspects of work
will they be willing to cut corners?” Owners and operators who hire this
type of contractor are opening themselves up to legal and regulatory
actions and are additionally running the risk of system malfunctions,
adding unnecessary costs on top of endangering lives.
NATE Requests Contact From Tower Owners and Operators
NATE is requesting contact from carriers, broadcasters and other
entities who own, operate or control wireless and broadcast towers as
well as the industry groups who represent them. NATE is doggedly
pursuing working relationships with these organizations to ensure that a
culture of safety exists throughout the industry and that only qualified
contractors set foot on tower sites. If your organization fits this
description, please contact Patrick Howey at 888-882-5865 or
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