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Keith[_6_] November 25th 10 04:53 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0

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Best Regards,

Keith
http://home.comcast.net/~kilowattradio/

[email protected] November 25th 10 06:19 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
I get dizzy when I go up my ladder or stand on a two foot stool.Y'all
can have that high wire stuff!
cuhulin


dave November 25th 10 06:48 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...

Rob[_8_] November 25th 10 08:22 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
dave wrote:
Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.


The climbers you know probably climb 100 ft towers?

With this tower that would require 3,400 ft of rope, which probably
weighs more than the tools and will be very difficult to handle.

dave November 25th 10 08:54 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
Rob wrote:
wrote:
Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.


The climbers you know probably climb 100 ft towers?

With this tower that would require 3,400 ft of rope, which probably
weighs more than the tools and will be very difficult to handle.


You take a messenger rope (3/32") up with you. Once through the pulley
and back down that rope is used to lift a more substantial rope, all
done by the winch on the service truck. This is a safety feature. People
cramp up sometimes.

Jeff Liebermann[_2_] November 26th 10 12:57 AM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
On 25 Nov 2010 20:22:50 GMT, Rob wrote:

With this tower that would require 3,400 ft of rope, which probably
weighs more than the tools and will be very difficult to handle.


9mm static line weighs 57 gm/meter. A 1000 meter loop would weight
57kg or 126 lbs. No thanks. Also, the line has quite a bit of wind
resistance and will probably cause the 30 lb tool bag to sway quite a
bit in the wind. However, since he rode the elevator almost to the
top, he might be able to handle a 50 meter single static line to the
top of the elevator.

Nice video. I wonder what they were repairing on top of the tower?
Replacing the tower light?

--
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150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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[email protected] November 26th 10 01:30 AM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
If they could put a wind powered generator up there, they could have
more than enough power for the light.
Get Mike Rowe at Dirty Jobs to replace the light bulb.
cuhulin


[email protected] November 26th 10 02:37 AM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
WLBT 3's Tower is 1,889 feet, 10 inches tall, and there is a 67 foot
transmitting antenna on top of that.1,956 feet, 10 inches tall.
Better bring some extra rope.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Tallest Communications Tower in Mississippi
cuhulin


D. Peter Maus[_2_] November 26th 10 03:21 AM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
On 11/25/10 10:53 , Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0




Didn't we see this about 3 months ago?


Wayne November 26th 10 03:28 AM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 

"Keith" wrote in message
...

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0

-- -
Best Regards,

Keith
http://home.comcast.net/~kilowattradio/

-
Cool. I have three friends who got sick watching the video :)
Wayne



[email protected] November 26th 10 04:19 AM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
It's not the fall that will git ya.Don't worry, the ground will catch
ya.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Water Sparkplug

Ignites water mist.
Oh, c'mon!
cuhulin


bpuharic November 26th 10 06:33 AM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, dave wrote:

Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...


how much does 1700' of line weigh?

dave November 26th 10 01:59 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, wrote:


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...


how much does 1700' of line weigh?


Press Release

Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video

The following statement is being issued by the National Association of
Tower Erectors (NATE) regarding a dangerous video post erroneously
characterizing “free climbing” on towers as lawful and common.
NATE would like to publicly denounce the message of the recently posted
video depicting two men climbing a broadcast tower. NATE asserts that
the posting of the content was misguided and its messages should not be
given credence by any viewer.
The “Stairway to Heaven” video, reportedly launched by
TheOnLineEngineer.org, suggests that free climbing is an accepted method
of ascending and descending broadcast and telecommunication towers. The
video incorrectly asserts that free climbing is accepted by OSHA and
that “most tower workers climb this way.” The video also depicts as
standard procedure other dangerous and prohibited conduct not condoned
by NATE or OSHA. There are many inaccuracies in this video.
NATE’s efforts to establish a culture of safety in the wireless and
broadcast tower industry encourages everyone involved with tower work to
adhere to recognized safe practices. The video in question is an example
of a climber who is either unaware of recognized safety practices or is
unwilling to take the time to protect his life and the life of his
co-worker in the video. By extension it encourages others to employ
unsafe climbing techniques not endorsed by either OSHA or NATE.
Contractors who refuse to operate safely should never be hired. This
video is one more example of why the efforts of NATE, our membership and
industry partners are imperative.
NATE, the industry’s leader in tower safety, continues to pursue working
relationships with carriers, broadcasters and other tower
owner/operators to ensure that only qualified contractors set foot on
tower sites. The Association has worked with OSHA to develop safety best
practices and educational programs to ensure every tower worker goes
home safely every day. Companies which allow free climbing and other
violations of recognized safety practices are placing lives in danger
and jeopardizing tower work services.
NATE is looking forward to OSHA’s statement clarifying this matter for
the industry.
Work Quality in Question
Employers who allow such practices will likely cut corners on other
aspects of their work. NATE asks, “If a company or employee will cut
corners with the lives of its workers, on what other aspects of work
will they be willing to cut corners?” Owners and operators who hire this
type of contractor are opening themselves up to legal and regulatory
actions and are additionally running the risk of system malfunctions,
adding unnecessary costs on top of endangering lives.
NATE Requests Contact From Tower Owners and Operators
NATE is requesting contact from carriers, broadcasters and other
entities who own, operate or control wireless and broadcast towers as
well as the industry groups who represent them. NATE is doggedly
pursuing working relationships with these organizations to ensure that a
culture of safety exists throughout the industry and that only qualified
contractors set foot on tower sites. If your organization fits this
description, please contact Patrick Howey at 888-882-5865 or
.

http://www.natehome.com

K1TTT November 26th 10 02:21 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
On Nov 26, 3:21*am, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 11/25/10 10:53 , Keith wrote:



http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1


Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


* Didn't we see this about 3 months ago?


yeah, and you'll probably see it brought up every few months for quite
a while now when someone new finds it for the first time.

[email protected] November 26th 10 02:54 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
I don't know that much about climbing towers.But, I think I would wear a
safety belt/harness and have at least two or three strong ropes a few
feet long with some sort of snap on/snap off hooks so I could hook on to
whatever and hopefully not fall down.I reckon I would work my way up and
down like that, if you get me drift?
cuhulin, I am not a climber


[email protected] November 26th 10 03:16 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
Safety equipment for climbing tall steel towers

Safety is Paramount.Safety is Rule Number One.

The darrrring young man on the flying trapeez,,, he flies through the
air with the greatest of ease,,,,, ~ It Happened One Night movie - Clark
Gable and Claudet Colbert.
cuhulin


Wayne November 26th 10 05:15 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:48:56 -0800, wrote:


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...


how much does 1700' of line weigh?


Press Release

Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video

The following statement is being issued by the National Association of
Tower Erectors (NATE) regarding a dangerous video post erroneously
characterizing “free climbing” on towers as lawful and common.
NATE would like to publicly denounce the message of the recently posted
video depicting two men climbing a broadcast tower. NATE asserts that the
posting of the content was misguided and its messages should not be given
credence by any viewer.
The “Stairway to Heaven” video, reportedly launched by
TheOnLineEngineer.org, suggests that free climbing is an accepted method
of ascending and descending broadcast and telecommunication towers. The
video incorrectly asserts that free climbing is accepted by OSHA and that
“most tower workers climb this way.” The video also depicts as standard
procedure other dangerous and prohibited conduct not condoned by NATE or
OSHA. There are many inaccuracies in this video.
NATE’s efforts to establish a culture of safety in the wireless and
broadcast tower industry encourages everyone involved with tower work to
adhere to recognized safe practices. The video in question is an example
of a climber who is either unaware of recognized safety practices or is
unwilling to take the time to protect his life and the life of his
co-worker in the video. By extension it encourages others to employ unsafe
climbing techniques not endorsed by either OSHA or NATE. Contractors who
refuse to operate safely should never be hired. This video is one more
example of why the efforts of NATE, our membership and industry partners
are imperative.
NATE, the industry’s leader in tower safety, continues to pursue working
relationships with carriers, broadcasters and other tower owner/operators
to ensure that only qualified contractors set foot on tower sites. The
Association has worked with OSHA to develop safety best practices and
educational programs to ensure every tower worker goes home safely every
day. Companies which allow free climbing and other violations of
recognized safety practices are placing lives in danger and jeopardizing
tower work services.
NATE is looking forward to OSHA’s statement clarifying this matter for the
industry.
Work Quality in Question
Employers who allow such practices will likely cut corners on other
aspects of their work. NATE asks, “If a company or employee will cut
corners with the lives of its workers, on what other aspects of work will
they be willing to cut corners?” Owners and operators who hire this type
of contractor are opening themselves up to legal and regulatory actions
and are additionally running the risk of system malfunctions, adding
unnecessary costs on top of endangering lives.
NATE Requests Contact From Tower Owners and Operators
NATE is requesting contact from carriers, broadcasters and other entities
who own, operate or control wireless and broadcast towers as well as the
industry groups who represent them. NATE is doggedly pursuing working
relationships with these organizations to ensure that a culture of safety
exists throughout the industry and that only qualified contractors set
foot on tower sites. If your organization fits this description, please
contact Patrick Howey at 888-882-5865 or .

http://www.natehome.com

-
Heh heh....so that's why the faces were blurred in the video :)



Boris Tuđan November 26th 10 07:05 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
Wayne wrote:
Heh heh....so that's why the faces were blurred in the video :)


You quoted complete post just for your one line of silly text? Learn to
quote first, then report to news groups.

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73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

[email protected] November 26th 10 08:15 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
Gunny Sgt.Ermey, can I drive your Jeep?
///NO! You can't drive my Jeep!///

http://www.devilfinder.com
Brian's Military Jeeps

Turn on the Power and Lights.

Speaking of that, I tied a piece of twine around the drivers side
outside door handle on my 1983 Dodge van to remind me to turn off the
lights when I get through driving.
cuhulin


D. Stussy[_2_] November 26th 10 08:20 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
"dave" wrote in message
. ..
Keith wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0


This guy carries 30 pounds of tools up the ladder with him? Most
climbers I know take the end of a line with them, then attach a pulley
where they'll be working, then they send the end of the rope back down.
Then the ground crew can send up tools, parts, whatever, and you don't
have to worry about not forgetting anything but the rope and the pulley.

Maybe he works alone...


Maybe the weight of his rope for that size of tower is more than 30
pounds....



[email protected] November 26th 10 09:03 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
That many feet of rope would weigh a ton.
cuhulin


[email protected] November 26th 10 09:22 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
http://www.jeepdraw.com/rear-sect.htm

Yeahuhhhhh,,,,,,
cuhulin


bpuharic November 26th 10 10:53 PM

Climbing a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:53:54 -0800, Keith
wrote:


http://www.liveleak.com/mp53/player.....liveleak.com/
mp53/player_config.php?token=07b_1284580365%26embed=1

Shortened URL:
http://bit.ly/b9VMU0



these guys are nucking futs. when i climb i'm ALWAYS attached. too
many uncertainties in positioning, grabbing, etc. all it itakes is 1
mistake

bpuharic November 26th 10 10:56 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 05:59:40 -0800, dave wrote:



Tower Association Responds to Erroneous and Dangerous Video


glad you posted this. when i climb i'm ALWAYS, ALWAYS attached to the
tower....althought the highest i've climbed is 155', it really doesnt
matter at this point. once you fall more than 15' or so, the results
are pretty much the same

Wayne November 27th 10 04:11 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 

"Boris Tuđan" wrote in message
...
Wayne wrote:
Heh heh....so that's why the faces were blurred in the video :)


You quoted complete post just for your one line of silly text? Learn to
quote first, then report to news groups.

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

-
Get some manners, then get back to us.



[email protected] November 27th 10 04:39 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
Military Vehicle Preservation Association IS Manners.

http://www.jeepdoc.com http://www.willystech.com
http://www.devilfinder.com
JeepCJ3B Page

http://www.devilfinder.com
Military Vehicle Preservation Association

About twenty five years ago, Robert ''Yogi'' DeFrancis (he lived on
Queen Christina Drive way back then, about two miles from doggy's
couch.He was originally from Ohio.He once said Boom Boom Mancini, the
wrestler is his cousin)
had an old Dodge Power Wagon truck, he said he would sell it to me for
$700.00.I don't know why I didn't buy that truck.
http://www.dodgepowerwagon.com
A guy who works in the Volvo trucks parts department here in Jackson, he
owns a World War Two Jeep he restored.

Manners? Plenty of Good Manners there.
cuhulin


Boris Tuđan November 27th 10 08:06 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
Wayne wrote:
Get some manners, then get back to us.


Learn to quote and read netiquette when you get some time. You don't
want to be retarded for the rest of your life.

--
Keep 'em Rolling! http://www.mvpa.org/
MVPA: 29718

http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/btudan/

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

Wayne November 27th 10 09:44 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 

"Boris Tuđan" wrote in message
...
Wayne wrote:
Get some manners, then get back to us.


Learn to quote and read netiquette when you get some time. You don't want
to be retarded for the rest of your life.

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

-
While you are waiting for me to do your homework assignments, how about
boning up on simple etiquette and trying to avoid PWD.
(posting while drunk)



dave November 28th 10 01:28 AM

Board Cop Alert Board Cop Alert
 
Wayne wrote:
"Boris wrote in message
...
Wayne wrote:
Get some manners, then get back to us.


Learn to quote and read netiquette when you get some time. You don't want
to be retarded for the rest of your life.

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

-
While you are waiting for me to do your homework assignments, how about
boning up on simple etiquette and trying to avoid PWD.
(posting while drunk)




[email protected] November 28th 10 02:35 AM

Board Cop Alert Board Cop Alert
 
Radioklub OZALJ?

Down Periscope movie just now finished on the FMC channel.Comes FMC
again at 11:00 PM tonight.
Welcome Aboard.
cuhulin


[email protected] November 28th 10 02:47 AM

Board Cop Alert Board Cop Alert
 
HR is Croatia.
I know a guy who was born in Croatia.He was in the U.S.Military.He is
the same age as I am.
cuhulin


dave November 28th 10 12:40 PM

Board Cop Alert Board Cop Alert
 
wrote:
Radioklub OZALJ?

Down Periscope movie just now finished on the FMC channel.Comes FMC
again at 11:00 PM tonight.
Welcome Aboard.
cuhulin


That movie sucks. Kelsey Grammar is not a healthy role model. You'd
probably enjoy McHale's Navy more.

RHF November 28th 10 01:00 PM

Board Cop Alert Board Cop Alert
 
On Nov 28, 4:40*am, dave wrote:
wrote:
Radioklub OZALJ?


Down Periscope movie just now finished on the FMC channel.Comes FMC
again at 11:00 PM tonight.
Welcome Aboard.
cuhulin


That movie sucks. Kelsey Grammar is not a healthy role model. You'd
probably enjoy McHale's Navy more.


Run Silent, Run Deep
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_Silent,_Run_Deep

The Hunt for Red October
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hun...ber_%28film%29

Das Boot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Boot

Boris Tuđan November 28th 10 03:14 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
Wayne wrote:
While you are waiting for me to do your homework assignments, how about
boning up on simple etiquette and trying to avoid PWD.
(posting while drunk)


I won't loose too much time with you, Arabs will do the punishing.

Take care.

--
Keep 'em Rolling! http://www.mvpa.org/
MVPA: 29718

http://s186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/btudan/

73 de 9A6KTB - Boris

[email protected] November 28th 10 06:20 PM

Milking a 1,700 ft Antenna Tower
 
I would only get just so far up that tower, then I would freeze!
Don't look down!
cuhulin


dave November 29th 10 12:57 PM

Then who works the curtain?
 
wrote:
They are only movies.

The World is a Stage and we are all little Actors.
cuhulin



RHF November 29th 10 01:47 PM

Then who works the curtain?
 
On Nov 29, 4:57*am, dave wrote:

- - wrote:
- - They are only movies.
- -
- - The World is a Stage and we are all little Actors.
- - cuhulin

- Then who works the curtain?

The Great Curtain Keeper -a-la- Mother Nature :

With the Rising of the Sun {Up-Curtain}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA2Nd5z1XTk

-and- the Setting of the Sun {Down-Curtain}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqKQYx2UqJo

....plus...The Moon provides the Encores ;;-}} ~ RHF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NnRzKuQDs


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