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dave December 21st 10 02:12 PM

Why FCC should reign in Fox News
 
It is heartening that the Times called foul on a journalistic infraction
by Fox and that the writer at least recognizes that Fox has a political
agenda, but it is not encouraging that the Times editorialists continue
to view Fox as a club member in good standing, albeit one that plays by
its own rules more often than not.

Journalists should be the last cohort to be fooled by a political
operation that disguises itself as a news outlet, and the journalism
establishment ought to be leading the charge for rousting the impostors.

Who can stop Fox? Not “liberal bloggers,” though we will do our best.
And certainly not the government, which is rightly prevented from
censoring Fox — even a propaganda outlet has the right to free speech.

It’s up to the journalism establishment to put its own house in order.
But, as the Times editorial shows, journalists at the loftiest perches
of the profession have yet to recognize the peril Fox presents. Unless
and until mainstream journalists “muster the outrage” to unmask Fox for
what it is, once and for all, Fox will continue to pose an existential
threat, both to the Fourth Estate, as Fox’s financial success
accelerates the death knell for objective journalism — and to the body
politic, which is beginning to weaken under the barrage of Fox’s
right-wing propaganda, which is now entering its 15th year.

Think about it. If instead of Fox, these polls had found that the Times,
Time Magazine, ABC News or any other mainstream outlet was tricking out
its reporting to further a political agenda, not only would heads roll
inside the organization, the journalism establishment would be up in arms.

And yet, faced with evidence that Fox is undermining the entire
profession by promulgating propaganda, the establishment’s collective
reaction is a shrug. Whaddayagonnado.

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2010/12...eives-viewers/

dave December 21st 10 04:32 PM

Why FCC should reign in Fox News
 
robertva wrote:
On 12/21/2010 9:12 AM, dave wrote:
(a long rant)


Did someone force their way into your home, steal all your cable boxes
and replace them with boxes that wouldn't tune other news outlets?

While the cable/satellite news outlet receive per subscriber fees
through the cable and satellite providers, there are still plenty of
commercials. Apparently the advertisers have some way of guessimating
how many pairs of eyes are watching each channel. If you disagree with a
channel's politics or think their reports are unreliable DON'T WATCH IT.
If enough of the viewers who are monitored by the rating's agencies
agree with you the channel you despise so much will be forced to change
their policies or shut down.

Also note that FCC authority over cable/satellite channel content is
significantly narrower than the agency's authority over direct
broadcaster to home antenna content.


I have no problem with their content. I have a big problem with them
being able to characterize it as "news". They lie, which is completely
legal with a few exceptions. I'd like a rule prohibiting them from
labeling their "lies" as "news". That's all.

This is a matter of urgent importance as the country is rapidly slipping
into complete domination. There's that famous "freedom and liberty" crap
hard at work.


MnMikew December 21st 10 05:23 PM

Why FCC should reign in Fox News
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
robertva wrote:
On 12/21/2010 9:12 AM, dave wrote:
(a long rant)


Did someone force their way into your home, steal all your cable boxes
and replace them with boxes that wouldn't tune other news outlets?

While the cable/satellite news outlet receive per subscriber fees
through the cable and satellite providers, there are still plenty of
commercials. Apparently the advertisers have some way of guessimating
how many pairs of eyes are watching each channel. If you disagree with a
channel's politics or think their reports are unreliable DON'T WATCH IT.
If enough of the viewers who are monitored by the rating's agencies
agree with you the channel you despise so much will be forced to change
their policies or shut down.

Also note that FCC authority over cable/satellite channel content is
significantly narrower than the agency's authority over direct
broadcaster to home antenna content.


I have no problem with their content. I have a big problem with them being
able to characterize it as "news". They lie, which is completely legal
with a few exceptions. I'd like a rule prohibiting them from labeling
their "lies" as "news". That's all.

This is a matter of urgent importance as the country is rapidly slipping
into complete domination. There's that famous "freedom and liberty" crap
hard at work.

You have no problems with MSNBC of course. Fox lies, lol! I love how dopey
liberals like you think freedom of speech is a one way street.



dave December 22nd 10 02:19 AM

Why FCC should reign in Fox News
 
John Smith wrote:
On 12/21/2010 6:12 AM, dave wrote:

...


Freedom of speech, as granted in the Constitution, means EVERYONE has
the right and no one is to be denied that right!

... end of story ...

Regards,
JS


As long as you don't take advantage of people by calling propaganda
news. No right is absolute.

RHF December 22nd 10 02:37 AM

'Special Dave' -proclaims- The FCC Should Reign-In {Censor/Remove}
 
On Dec 21, 10:06*am, dave wrote:
MNMikew wrote:
*wrote in message
m...
robertva wrote:
On 12/21/2010 9:12 AM, dave wrote:
(a long rant)


Did someone force their way into your home, steal all your cable boxes
and replace them with boxes that wouldn't tune other news outlets?


While the cable/satellite news outlet receive per subscriber fees
through the cable and satellite providers, there are still plenty of
commercials. Apparently the advertisers have some way of guessimating
how many pairs of eyes are watching each channel. If you disagree with a
channel's politics or think their reports are unreliable DON'T WATCH IT.
If enough of the viewers who are monitored by the rating's agencies
agree with you the channel you despise so much will be forced to change
their policies or shut down.


Also note that FCC authority over cable/satellite channel content is
significantly narrower than the agency's authority over direct
broadcaster to home antenna content.


I have no problem with their content. I have a big problem with them being
able to characterize it as "news". They lie, which is completely legal
with a few exceptions. I'd like a rule prohibiting them from labeling
their "lies" as "news". That's all.


This is a matter of urgent importance as the country is rapidly slipping
into complete domination. There's that famous "freedom and liberty" crap
hard at work.


You have no problems with MSNBC of course. Fox lies, lol! *I love how dopey
liberals like you think freedom of speech is a one way street.


- I have problems with MSNBC,
- but they do not lie
- and they do not call themselves "news".

'Special Dave',

All this from someone who 'claims' that :
"Facts have A Liberal BIAS"

'Special Dave' -you-are- "/S/p/e/c/i/a/l/"

RHF December 22nd 10 02:45 AM

Reality-R-Us-Sucks : Why MSNBC Can Not Be Fair and Balanced . . .
 
On Dec 21, 12:44*pm, "MNMikew" wrote:
"dave" wrote in message

...



MNMikew wrote:
*wrote in message
om...
robertva wrote:
On 12/21/2010 9:12 AM, dave wrote:
(a long rant)


Did someone force their way into your home, steal all your cable boxes
and replace them with boxes that wouldn't tune other news outlets?


While the cable/satellite news outlet receive per subscriber fees
through the cable and satellite providers, there are still plenty of
commercials. Apparently the advertisers have some way of guessimating
how many pairs of eyes are watching each channel. If you disagree with
a
channel's politics or think their reports are unreliable DON'T WATCH
IT.
If enough of the viewers who are monitored by the rating's agencies
agree with you the channel you despise so much will be forced to change
their policies or shut down.


Also note that FCC authority over cable/satellite channel content is
significantly narrower than the agency's authority over direct
broadcaster to home antenna content.


I have no problem with their content. I have a big problem with them
being
able to characterize it as "news". They lie, which is completely legal
with a few exceptions. I'd like a rule prohibiting them from labeling
their "lies" as "news". That's all.


This is a matter of urgent importance as the country is rapidly slipping
into complete domination. There's that famous "freedom and liberty" crap
hard at work.


You have no problems with MSNBC of course. Fox lies, lol! *I love how
dopey
liberals like you think freedom of speech is a one way street.


I have problems with MSNBC, but they do not lie and they do not call
themselves "news".


BWHAHAHAHH!! *Don't try telling that to Chris Mattews!

They fastidiously maintain journalistic credibility and proved it recently
by suspending Olberman and Scarborough for financial support of candidates.


They broke a MSNBC rule. It only proves that Olberman and Scarborought are
stupid.

*How many Fox "News" people have been

punished for supporting one side over the other.


They don't have that rule, so none.



To compare the 2 is ludicrous. MSNBC are "truth to power" muckrakers in
the great tradition of American journalism; Fox News is first and foremost
the mouthpiece of corporate America (the power that needs to hear the
truth) and defenders of old money.


You are a clueless. Truth to power, LOL!


Fair and Balanced -is- FAIR and BALANCED !

Requires Fainess -not-from- MSNBC
-but-by- FOX News

-and-

Requires Balance -not-from- MSNBC
-but-by- FOX News

Why MSNBC Can Not Be Fair and Balanced . . .
To Them Facts Have A Liberal BIAS {Bigotry}

John Smith December 22nd 10 02:46 AM

Why FCC should reign in Fox News
 
On 12/21/2010 6:19 PM, dave wrote:

...
As long as you don't take advantage of people by calling propaganda
news. No right is absolute.


No, it simply translates into, "I may disagree with what you say, but
NOT your right to say it."

A slogan which has been in existence since shortly after the
Constitutions enactment ... and depicts the true meaning and intent of
the first amendment ...

Our forefathers said what they meant and meant what they said. Not like
the limp wrist-ed politically imbeciles of today.

Regards,
JS

John Smith December 22nd 10 02:50 AM

Why FCC should reign in Fox News
 
On 12/21/2010 6:46 PM, John Smith wrote:
politically imbeciles of today.


.... politically CORRECT imbeciles of today. ... even

Regards,
JS



RHF December 22nd 10 12:36 PM

Progressive Bigotry : ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . . The FactsMust Be Presented With A Liberal Bias !
 
On Dec 22, 1:49*am, RHF wrote:
On Dec 21, 6:59*pm, dave wrote:- - RHF wrote:

- - Why MSNBC Can Not Be Fair and Balanced . . .
- -To Them Facts Have A Liberal BIAS {Bigotry}

Reality-R-Us-Sucks :
Why MSNBC Can Not Be Fair and Balanced . . .http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5c14216505124f
Progressive Bigotry : ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . .
The Facts Must Be Presented With A Liberal Bias !
- - .
- - .

-http://www.dailymotion.moc/swf/x39n1&v3=1&autoPlay=1&related=1&autoSt...

Ah . . . So . . . 'Special Dave',

Your Link {News Reference} is Stephen Colbert
of "The Colbert Report" on Comedy Centralhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert

Which just goes to prove your own words :
"The Facts Have A Liberal BIAS" and Your
Bigotry Against Anything That Is Fair and Balance :
That Might Refute Your Totally Preconceived Liberal Bias.

~t~w~i~s~t~e~d~ ~t~h~i~n~k~i~n~g~
you be 'special dave' ~ ~ RHFhttp://www.ihaveeadd.com/images/twisted%20man.jpg
*.
*.


-remember- 'Special Dave',
"Facts Are Meaningless.
You Could Use Facts To Prove Anything
That's Even Remotely True!"
-a-la- Homer J. Simpson
http://screwedus.com/wp-content/uplo...impson-doh.jpg

-butt-4-u- 'Special Dave',
"Facts With A Liberal-Bias Are Meaningful.
You Could Use Liberal-Facts To Prove Everything
That's Totally Un-True !"
-a-la- 'Special Dave'
http://forum.sensiseeds.com/fdata/ga...er_simpson.jpg

[email protected] December 22nd 10 01:52 PM

Progressive Bigotry : ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . . TheFac...
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
News media TV channels

The Internet is where a lot of people get news.Commie fed govt is trying
to rein in/clamp down/on the Internet.
cuhulin


dave December 22nd 10 05:39 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
RHF wrote:


Which just goes to prove your own words :
"The Facts Have A Liberal BIAS" and Your
Bigotry Against Anything That Is Fair and Balance :
That Might Refute Your Totally Preconceived Liberal Bias.

**** you, Roy. I have years of journalism instruction and decades of
experience in network radio and television. I started in the business
doing news when I was 14 years old. I know what objective reporting means.

You are a POS clown. I doubt you even believe a tenth of what you spew,
in your pathetic attempt to remain relevant. **** you.

dave December 22nd 10 05:41 PM

The internet is flawed
 
wrote:
http://www.devilfinder.com
News media TV channels

The Internet is where a lot of people get news.Commie fed govt is trying
to rein in/clamp down/on the Internet.
cuhulin


If people believe the internet they are fools. It is the perfect medium
for mind control and disinformation.

dave December 22nd 10 05:41 PM

Progressive Bigotry : ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . . The Fac...
 
wrote:
I just now clicked on Deutsche Welle Journal tv news on the LINK channel
375, English language.DirecTV.
cuhulin


Try Free Speech TV right now-Thom Hartmann live with Bernie Sanders.

John Smith December 22nd 10 05:46 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
On 12/22/2010 9:39 AM, dave wrote:

...

**** you, Roy. I have years of journalism instruction and decades of
experience in network radio and television. I started in the business
doing news when I was 14 years old. I know what objective reporting means.

You are a POS clown. I doubt you even believe a tenth of what you spew,
in your pathetic attempt to remain relevant. **** you.


Your text, above, proves you to be a blatant liar ... how can you not
notice that, fool? ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

m II December 22nd 10 05:47 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
On 10-12-22 10:39 AM, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:


Which just goes to prove your own words :
"The Facts Have A Liberal BIAS" and Your
Bigotry Against Anything That Is Fair and Balance :
That Might Refute Your Totally Preconceived Liberal Bias.

**** you, Roy. I have years of journalism instruction and decades of
experience in network radio and television. I started in the business
doing news when I was 14 years old. I know what objective reporting means.

You are a POS clown. I doubt you even believe a tenth of what you spew,
in your pathetic attempt to remain relevant. **** you.



I'm sick of this non committing pussy footing and dancing around the
topic. Start telling us how you REALLY feel.....




mike

[email protected] December 22nd 10 06:14 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
WLBT 3 showed a video of a fire in Chicago.Old abandoned building, brick
wall collapsed, killing two Firemen.I then clicked on WGN Midday news.

33 degrees in Chicago.Currently, 58 degrees inside my flower box on
doggy's porch.Suppose to get up to 68 degrees today, (''they'') say.I
don't think it will make it though.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 22nd 10 06:22 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
Deutsche Welle Journal comes on the LINK channel again at 1:00 PM
Mississippi Coon Ass time zone.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 22nd 10 06:32 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
The way those people at WLBT 3 tee vee were laughing, I think they read
that one too, or maybe somebody told them.
cuhulin


MnMikew December 22nd 10 07:30 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
RHF wrote:


Which just goes to prove your own words :
"The Facts Have A Liberal BIAS" and Your
Bigotry Against Anything That Is Fair and Balance :
That Might Refute Your Totally Preconceived Liberal Bias.

**** you, Roy. I have years of journalism instruction and decades of
experience in network radio and television. I started in the business
doing news when I was 14 years old. I know what objective reporting means.

It's amazing you can even spell objective.



MnMikew December 22nd 10 07:32 PM

The internet is flawed
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
http://www.devilfinder.com
News media TV channels

The Internet is where a lot of people get news.Commie fed govt is trying
to rein in/clamp down/on the Internet.
cuhulin


If people believe the internet they are fools. It is the perfect medium
for mind control and disinformation.


And most of it comes from you. Well, at least the disinformation part.



[email protected] December 23rd 10 04:22 AM

Progressive Bigotry : ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . . The Fac...
 
On Dec 22, 9:09*am, wrote:
I just now clicked on Deutsche Welle Journal tv news on the LINK channel
375, English language.DirecTV.
cuhulin


Vivian Leigh(newscaster) is cute. She worked in Ghana a while back and
moved to Germany.

[email protected] December 23rd 10 04:24 AM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
On Dec 22, 1:14*pm, wrote:
WLBT 3 showed a video of a fire in Chicago.Old abandoned building, brick
wall collapsed, killing two Firemen.I then clicked on WGN Midday news.

33 degrees in Chicago.Currently, 58 degrees inside my flower box on
doggy's porch.Suppose to get up to 68 degrees today, (''they'') say.I
don't think it will make it though.
cuhulin


33*F+lots of wind.

[email protected] December 23rd 10 05:15 AM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
The highest temperature inside my flowerbox on doggy's front porch today
was 62 degrees.

http://www.devilfinder.com
The Neutering of the Internet

Those Castrated Bastids want to Castrate the Internet.
cuhulin


RHF December 23rd 10 10:05 AM

Progressive Bigotry : ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . . The Fac...
 
On Dec 22, 8:22*pm, wrote:

- - On Dec 22, 9:09*am, wrote:
- - I just now clicked on Deutsche Welle Journal
- - tv news on the LINK channel 375,
- - English language.DirecTV.
- - cuhulin

- Vivian Leigh(newscaster) is cute.
- She worked in Ghana a while back
- and moved to Germany.

Arthrny : Was it ?'Vivian Leigh'?
-or- "Meggin Leigh" on DW World ???
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1968851,00.html

dave December 23rd 10 12:51 PM

The internet is flawed
 
wrote:
FCC = Federal Castrated Commies.
cuhulin


Is there anything that you do respect about the USA, except for that
apple pie flag kind of respect?

dave December 23rd 10 01:01 PM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
wrote:
The highest temperature inside my flowerbox on doggy's front porch today
was 62 degrees.

http://www.devilfinder.com
The Neutering of the Internet

Those Castrated Bastids want to Castrate the Internet.
cuhulin


You are supporting Comcast and Cox, and LESS freedom on the internet.
Remember, the bad guys always say the opposite of what they mean and
they always accuse you of their crimes.

RHF December 23rd 10 06:40 PM

The Liberal Media Alliance : A Liberal Bias Coupled With Progressive Bigotry
 
On Dec 22, 9:39 am, dave wrote:

- - RHF wrote:
- - Which just goes to prove your own words :
- - "The Facts Have A Liberal BIAS" and Your
- - Bigotry Against Anything That Is Fair and Balance :
- - That Might Refute Your Totally Preconceived Liberal Bias.

Progressive Bigotry :
ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . .
The Facts Must Be Presented With A Liberal Bias !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...329497c46f2540
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f6d528543d142f

[email protected] December 23rd 10 07:29 PM

The Liberal Media Alliance : A Liberal Bias Coupled WithProgre...
 
1:00 PM Deutsche Welle Journal on LINK tv this afternoon, looks like a
rebroadcast of the same broadcast that was on this morning.

The Irish people in Ireland say consumption is Key to recovery.Teresa
Condon, sales manager for Pamela Scott (Scot?) store(s) in Dublin
agrees.
cuhulin, the Consumer


[email protected] December 24th 10 02:28 AM

The Liberal Media Alliance : A Liberal Bias Coupled WithProgre...
 
Federal Communist Criminals = FCC ''rules'' reach mobile apps
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?=300482

I don't tote.Hence no mobile apps here.

Now watch em look into their Crystal Balls and tell me I do tote.

I do NOT tote.

We got Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the CRYSTAL Skull movie on the
USA channel right now.
CRYSTAL.
cuhulin


John Smith December 24th 10 02:34 AM

The Liberal Media Alliance : A Liberal Bias Coupled With Progre...
 
On 12/23/2010 6:28 PM, wrote:
Federal Communist Criminals = FCC ''rules'' reach mobile apps
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?=300482

I don't tote.Hence no mobile apps here.

Now watch em look into their Crystal Balls and tell me I do tote.

I do NOT tote.

We got Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the CRYSTAL Skull movie on the
USA channel right now.
CRYSTAL.
cuhulin

FCC needs to read the first amendment, and then act accordingly ...

Regards,
JS


[email protected] December 24th 10 03:00 AM

The Liberal Media Alliance : A Liberal Bias Coupled WithProgre...
 
http://www.devilfinder.com
Polar bears rethinking their 2008 vote Lucianne.com

The Polar Bears are Disappointed.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 24th 10 05:47 AM

Progressive Bigotry : ABC & CBS & NBC & PBS & CNN . . . The Fac...
 
On Dec 23, 5:05*am, RHF wrote:
On Dec 22, 8:22*pm, wrote:

- - On Dec 22, 9:09*am, wrote:
- - I just now clicked on Deutsche Welle Journal
- - tv news on the LINK channel 375,
- - English language.DirecTV.
- - cuhulin

- Vivian Leigh(newscaster) is cute.
- She worked in Ghana a while back
- and moved to Germany.

Arthrny : Was it ?'Vivian Leigh'?
-or- "Meggin Leigh" on DW World ???http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1968851,00.html
*.
*.


Sorry. It is Meggin.

[email protected] December 24th 10 05:48 AM

Progressive Bigotry :
 
On Dec 23, 10:18*am, wrote:
I don't pay Comcast and Cox any money.If I decide to get Broadband for
my computer, it Will NOT be Comcast.

Vivian Leigh, THE Vivian Leigh? Movie actress.

http://www.devilfinder.com
Vivian Leigh

She was a fine movie actress.
cuhulin


Yes,she was Really Supercute !


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