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RHF December 27th 10 01:37 AM

We-'The-People'-R-Us : United We Stand ! & Peace Through Strength !
 
On Dec 26, 1:33*pm, dave wrote:
On 12/26/2010 11:58 AM, RHF wrote:



- The Social Contract is based on the notion of allegiance,
- that is to say 'voluntary' acceptance, not imposition.


*CORRECT*


There is NO 'Collective' in American "Individual" Freedoms [.]
-except-one- "All Men {and Women} Are Created Equal"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_men_are_created_equal
-meaning- They {as Individuals} Are Endowed By


The-Collective-R-Us :
"Interpreting" US Declaration of Independence &
US Constitution & US Bill of Rights
With a Modern Day Liberal-Socialist-Bias
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e4a7c49c70c97d

- dave -wrote- {changed the subject line to read}
No "Us" in We the People -- and a video proving it!
wrong,,, Wrong... WRONG ! ! ! 'Special-Dave'
There is an 'Us' in We The People
-and- That 'Us' Is The Average Hardworking Tax
Paying American US Citizens -not- Your Liberal Elite
made-up of the select 'chosen' few acting as the
deciders for and over-lords of the masses.

United We Stand ! : Your Average Hardworking Tax
Paying American US Citizens : Voting and Just
Saying 'NO' To The Liberal Elitists.

Peace Through Strength : The Voice of Average
Hardworking Tax Paying American US Citizens :
Just Saying 'NO' To The Liberal Elitists By Voting.

- dave -wrote-
- All for one and one for all?

'Special-Dave' just proves that you qualify
to be on of the 'French Three Musketeers.

Tim Crowley December 27th 10 01:39 AM

Exxon Mobil Banks $45 billion, gets $1.1 billion tax credt
 
On Dec 25, 10:07Â*pm, Werner wrote:
On Dec 25, 4:29Â*pm, dave wrote:

On 12/25/2010 11:29 AM, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:


in addition to the services of our military and State Department. We are
being bled dry by foreign predator corporations and you're worried about
a few million dollars for Click and Clack and Will Shorts?


You are a tool of the Koch brothers and the USA Chamber of Commerce
(which despite its name specializes in lobbying foreign companies). They
can't allow a credible news source to interfere with their high-dollae
anarchy.


Both the military and State Department are enumerated powers. Not so
with funding NPR.

If we cut all unconstitutional spending we would have a very much
smaller budget.


hint: scream in impotent pain some more. It's so funny when racist
scum do that.


Tim Crowley December 27th 10 01:40 AM

NPR Derives 41% of Funding From YOUR Taxes - Petition to DefundNational Propaganda Radio - NPR
 
On Dec 25, 10:09Â*pm, Werner wrote:
On Dec 26, 12:41Â*am, WR wrote:





On Dec 25, 2:29Â*pm, ∅baMa∅ Tse Dung wrote:


On Dec 24, 4:15Â*pm, Ron wrote:


On Dec 24, 3:38Â*pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅
wrote:http://page.townhall.com/DefundNPR/


.
.
This is an old Mantra. Â*Get up to date on NPR funding. Â*Go to:


http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/pu...ofinances.html


Where we read the following, with my added CAPS:


"NPR's revenue comes primarily from fees paid by our member stations,
contributions from corporate sponsors, institutional foundation
grants, gifts from major donors, and fees paid by users of The Public
Radio Satellite System. Â*WE RECEIVE NO DIRECT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR
OPERATIONS. Â*The largest share of NPR's revenue comes from program
fees and station dues paid by member stations that broadcast NPR
programs."


Your post illustrates so much of what is wrong with Wingers. Â*They
rant and rave over subjects about which they know nothing. Â*Zilch.


RO


NPR Derives 41% of Funding From YOUR Taxes


How Public Is NPR's Funding? Options
By Mark Browning


De-fund NPR! In the wake of the firing of Juan Williams by National
Public Radio, we've once again heard conservative voices issue that
call. NPR representatives respond, as they always do when their
dependence on government purse strings is noted, by arguing that only
two or three percent of the service's money comes from the federal
government. NPR apologist Norah O'Donnell recently threw out a one to
three-percent figure on MSNBC.


Norah's New Math Grossly Understates NPR's Fed Fundinghttp://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/22/norahs-n...


We don't see these people volunteering to give up that three percent,
but we have to admit that this amount of funding is not the gigantic
boondoggle we might prefer to oppose. Is this three-percent number a
fair claim by the NPR crowd? Apparently, in a very limited sense, it
is, but in a more comprehensive analysis, it is nowhere near
accurate.


To understand NPR funding, we have to recognize that public radio is a
two-tier operation. There is, on the one hand, the network itself, the
Washington-based producer of programs that actually terminated Juan
Williams' contract. On the other hand, there is the collection of some
nine hundred NPR affiliate radio stations who bring this programming
to radios around the United States. We cannot hope to understand NPR's
finances without understanding the stations as well, so let's begin
there.


According to information available from the NPR website [Oct 2010],http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/pu...ofinances.html
local radio station money comes from the following sources:


32.1% Â*Individual contributions


21.1% Â*Business contributions


13.6% Â*University funds


10.1% Â*Corporation for Public Broadcasting funds


9.6% Â* Â*Foundation money


5.6% Â* Â*Federal, state, and local government funds


7.6% Â* Â*Other


At first glance, this distribution of funds seems to confirm that
public radio's support does not come in large amounts from the direct
allocation of tax moneys. After all, 5.6% is not a gigantic portion of
the budget, is it? But let's look more closely. That 10.1% that comes
from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting is 99% provided by -- you
guessed it -- the federal government. Those university funds, whenever
they are provided by a public university, represent taxpayer-provided
dollars. We can safely assert that three out of four university-
supported stations are publicly funded, which means that more than 10%
(three-quarters of that 13.6%) is taken from the taxpayer's pockets.


So far, we find that NPR member stations count on direct or indirect
taxpayer money for some 25% of their funds -- and that's before we
consider some of the largest portions of their budgets.


Obviously the support by individuals, businesses, and foundations does
not constitute taxpayer funding, right? Not so fast. These donations
are tax-deductible; thus, they are subsidized by the government.
Granted, not every gift is actually reflected on an individual or
business tax return, and not all of those that are itemized wind up
offsetting Â*high marginal tax rates. Still, it is reasonable to
believe that on average, these gifts result in deductions at the 25%
tax bracket. Since these three categories add up to roughly 64% of
station funds, we can reasonably argue that 16% of that money (64% x
0.25) is subsidized by the tax code.


In the end, then, local NPR affiliates derive something like 41% of
their funding from taxes, either directly or indirectly.


What about the entity that generated all the buzz for firing Juan
Williams? Interestingly, despite their conflicting 2% and 3% claims,
the NPR website says, "We receive no direct federal funding for
operations." Of course, that sort of statement leaves open the
possibility of receiving direct federal funding for other purposes.
What are those? They don't volunteer that information easily. What
they do point out prominently is that the biggest source of money is
from member stations. Local stations pay dues and fees for the
programs they rebroadcast. This money, recorded as Station Programming
Fees (40%), Membership Dues (1%), and Distribution Services (8%),
accounts for nearly half of NPR's funds.


Why is this significant? You do recall that some 41% of local station
money came from taxpayers, right? If 50% of funding comes from money
that is 40% derived from taxes, then another 20% of NPR's budget
comes, indirectly, from taxpayers. Twenty percent! That's a long way
from the 2%-3% figures, isn't it?


The next huge chunk of NPR income comes from "Sponsorships." These are
the things that, in any other media outlet, would be called
advertisements. We could argue that sponsorship money is tax-
deductible and therefore partly taxpayer-funded, but, lest we look
like double-standard-wielding lefties, we would have to make the same
argument for the ads that car companies run on ABC and CBS. Let's face
it: virtually every large corporation in America enjoys some form of
government largesse. That's what happens when government tentacles
reach into all portions of our lives.


On the other hand, there is much more clarity when we look to the 10%
"Grants and Contributions" category that represents direct taxpayer
gifting (most prominently by way of the Corporation for Public
Broadcasting) and indirect taxpayer support by way of tax deductions.
Is it reasonable to say that half of that 10% comes in one way or
another from taxes? I think so, but I'll settle for saying that this
category adds just 3% to the total. This brings our total of taxpayer
support for the entire NPR budget to around 23%.


Given that only 89% of the NPR income pie comes from external sources
(the rest coming from investment returns), it is not unreasonable to
assert that more than 25% of NPR funds from outside sources actually
comes from taxpayers. That's not an overwhelming portion of the
budget, but it's a long way from two to three percent.


As annoying as I find the bias at MSNBC or the New York Times, I will
respect to the end their right to be as biased as they'd like. What
they do with their money and whatever funds they can convince
advertisers to kick in is their own business. The same does not apply
to the likes of NPR. That's your money and my money going into their
coffers and funding that unbalanced message. We need to demand that
NPR either be pushed away from the public trough or be required to
present a modicum of evenhandedness.


http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...s_funding.html


See also:


George Soros’ Millions Buying ‘Political Reporters’ for NPR


http://bigjournalism.com/wthuston/20...os-millions-bu....


Will Republicans Fight to Defund 'Public Broadcasting'?http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/..._fight_to_defu...


Comparing Jews to Nazis Meets NPR's 'Editorial Standards and
Practices'http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/comparing_jews_to_nazis_meets....


NPRs Disgracehttp://frontpagemag.com/2010/10/22/nprs-disgrace/


Cite one instance, one report in Â*which NPR has not been utterly fair
and given full voice to Conservative, Liberal, Republican and
Democrat. The problem with you Rightards is, and always has been, if a
news show isn't a propaganda front for wingnuts, to you its the enemy.
You don't believe in fair, balanced, or accurate reporting, all of
which NPR provides.


Fair is in the eye of the beholder. Those beholding NPR should pay for
it. Those who don't behold should not have to pay.



hint: you have no say in the matter, racist.


RHF December 27th 10 01:53 AM

'Special-Dave' You Give New Meaning To The Medical Marijuana'Munchies' -wrt- Eat-the-Rich !
 
On Dec 26, 6:57*am, dave wrote:
On 12/25/2010 10:04 PM, Werner wrote:

On Dec 25, 12:31 pm, Tim *wrote:
On Dec 24, 2:15 pm, *wrote:


- Roy Fisk and Jerry are both tools of right wing
- hate radio, which in turn is a fully owned subsidiary
- of the Military Congressional Industrial Complex.
- As long as they live, you slowly die.

'Special-Dave' speaking of "Complexes" : How Is Yours ?
-cause- Sometimes 'Special-Dave' :
You Just Out "DaviD" Your-Selves.

[email protected] December 27th 10 01:56 AM

NPR Derives 41% of Funding From YOUR Taxes - Petition toDefund...
 
The best (effed up) government money can buy.
wearethegovernmentandweareheretohelpyou.
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DogDiesel December 27th 10 02:06 AM

No "Us" in We the People
 

"dave" wrote in message
. ..
On 12/26/2010 11:58 AM, RHF wrote:

There is no Social Contract. The Constitution abides no contracts. It is
the ultimate law of the land.

There is no collective. and never will be.

And no Social contract exists.





dave December 27th 10 02:49 AM

We-'The-People'-R-Us : United We Stand ! & Peace Through Strength!
 
On 12/26/2010 05:37 PM, RHF wrote:
-

Be more careful what you write 'Special-Dave'
"Anti-Social" and "Anthrax"
are really a bad-word-combo.
.
.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_%28song%29

RHF December 27th 10 08:56 PM

Oppressed-R-Us : The 'Liberal-Fascist' [Elitist] Power Base inWashington D.C.
 
On Dec 27, 6:18*am, dave wrote:
Abraham Vereide, an immigrant preacher who in 1935 organized a small
group of businessmen sympathetic to European fascism, fusing the far
right with his own polite but authoritarian faith. From that core,
Vereide built an international network of fundamentalists who spoke the
language of establishment power, a "family" that thrives to this day. In
public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private, they preach a gospel of
"biblical capitalism," military might, and American empire. Citing
Hitler, Lenin, and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current
leader, Doug Coe, declares, "We work with power where we can, build new
power where we can't."

http://www.harpercollins.com/books/T...let/?isbn=9780....


'Special-Dave' Some see the so-called "Christian
Fascist Power Base in Washington D.C." as : Obama,
Pelsoi and Reid -aka- The Liberal-Democrat Elites . . .

'Special-Dave' Some see the so-called "Christian
Fascist Power Base in Washington D.C." as : Boehner,
Cantor, McCarthy, McConnell, Kyl, Alexander, Thune,
-aka- The Moderate-Republicans Elites . . .

While Others Will Simple See All The Above As The
"Political Elites" in Washington, DC . . .
-cause- It Ain't the Political "Isms" that is the Problem
It Is The "Elitism" [Elite-Ism] That Is The Problem [.]

RHF December 27th 10 09:03 PM

'Special-Dave' : "giGO" = gibberish in... Gibberish Out !
 
On Dec 27, 8:35*am, dave wrote:
On 12/27/2010 07:02 AM, Tracey12 wrote:



Amen to that! *I am all for using American Liberty to spread the Good
News that Jesus is Lord of Lord and King of Kings.
If you've read our founders, you know that they said God was in the
midst of their discussions on creating the US Constitution and Bill of
Rights. *In fact, the strongly believed that America was created by
God.


- - WHO IS IN THE HOUSE? *JC! *
- - WHO IS IN THE HOUSE? *JC!

- And this gibberish is the "speaking in tongues" I've heard about?

No 'Special-Dave' You Heard 'Gibberish'
-wrt- 'Special-Dave' "giGO" = gibberish in... Gibberish Out !*
* Mostly 'Gibberish Out' ! ;;-}}

-while- Person-of-Faith "Believers" Hear The-Word-of-God :
Spoken-In-Tongues - blessed are they - amen ~ RHF

[email protected] December 27th 10 09:31 PM

'Special-Dave' : "giGO" = gibberish in... Gibberish Out !
 
Crocodile Dundee II is on the AMC channel.Those big knives are illegal
in Australia.
http://www.devilfinder.com
Crocodile Dundee Music Midi
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