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It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
Those Volts (Stupid name for a car) and those Leafs aren't selling so
Hot. Gas and Diesel RULES! Electric and Hybrids just don't 'cut it'.And they probally never will. cuhulin |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
On Mar 4, 10:06*pm, m II wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-04 12:40 PM, dave wrote: On 03/04/2011 10:48 AM, wrote: You betcher ass those 'elections' are Rigged! cuhulin - - They can only rig them a little. - - You have to have a "rig proof" majority to win. - Rigging can also involve the pre-selection of the - candidates made available for you to choose from. HEY ! : That's the 'Definition' of a "Party System". mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNcdLnAAoJEJXfKw5kUPt78UwIAInhEWilCf l0n6hzKQCiOe96 6TQkWZrYd/qgHWQco10vqsdSq7AXYif3Cik/nb3C3K27Fo5CjYvrXTdUYvotL5Ji MkQ94Or6FdhZl+LBaEr5lGGK2IJ9LW1vVaQHEqT49tyAfK8sNF YVT9SBlme+eEmP pYWNO8lUJi/I7IHzU5uTkQylR19Q/8h00u2ZhRxaTB87LTyDZOjU0pjp1g2yTIB3 5TiT2KLzY6yN/lGQpGaobeLgSfMebdLibciPxtP4Yzm3AoOJHzsf2JXMAT23bd0 9 4QWWtbKFdxb1gkgeoZVJOeSufNHlQQBB/XwlJS+64abW+Mbx8ZmTIA6CwFCOqjs= =EiWJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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On Mar 4, 10:00*pm, m II wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-04 04:51 PM, wrote: Arra, my Four Legged Drive Dish Washer Blue Heeler Australian Cattle Dog http://www.cattledog.com* *http://www.acdca.org* can go places your snazzy cars can't go. - Very true, but would you really like to see a Chevy - sniffing the exhaust pipe of the car in front of it? - - mike Mike : One can only attempt to 'imagine' : What You Really Do "Imagine" ! ~ RHF |
Once Again 'Special-Dave' Proves He Is One of "Them" !
On 03/04/2011 07:46 PM, RHF wrote:
And 'Special-Dave' You Are THEM* ! . * The 'Us' and "Them" Class Warfare Crowd** ** Liberals& Democrats Who Preach Class Warfare Rich -versus- Poor : Us -versus- Them . . Time for "preaching" is over. Glenn Beck is right. All the downtrodden are banding together and rising against The Monster. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3sURDS4IA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3L1u...eature=related [song Monster by Steppenwolf] |
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dave wrote: On 03/04/2011 10:10 PM, wrote: Those Volts (Stupid name for a car) and those Leafs aren't selling so Hot. Gas and Diesel RULES! Electric and Hybrids just don't 'cut it'.And they probally never will. cuhulin They are selling as fast as they can make them aren't they? Why are you so bitter, 'tard boy? |
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Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-05 06:55 AM, D Peter Maus wrote: Regardless of income. Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the support, anyway. The possible converse, and rather likely outcome of that will be the taxpayer having to bid on the auction of available tuitions. The death of publicly funded education would be another step closer. I can see the public education system resembling the rust belt at worst and privatized jails at best. I'm now wondering how many of the mob at a book burning have a secondary education. How many Baptists at a snake charming ceremony have a high school diploma? How many of the pervert Mormon's thirty wives have completed grade nine? How many ex-navy guys in Holland MI. finished grade four? It's a slippery slope. mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNclnuAAoJEJXfKw5kUPt72RkIAJOkkKDhwr 9043xWntZaE5vl jLvHy2ia6+X2xQS9urG3749T1C6g02gT/cc6GlwU/P7b5RwR4G2E1S/hm9cz/Krt 84h9rzdbAZeG0X12zHcI1Fz9N2Fst3eR2zipRoiRO9yLcvDox0 +OdZsdjYFy3G+g KAlb0qDaxgKpbyQMjVe9asd43m4ytTQYreu2GpO03/IjL78uJoYiY7BmQuQrF+su qK9sqH15Lo1xDlIMpRX+92Y6aHuRS5vtgJKc3PJ4GCtKp9V+4U c5yzoqj2qznXE8 IbXkU8RK/qGcGFJ3aLKT18dZ2GXcD4KrDGtPgwpYea5d5BOF2ZVfL2VXj9l SVAk= =PSqe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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m II wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-05 06:55 AM, D Peter Maus wrote: Regardless of income. Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the support, anyway. The possible converse, and rather likely outcome of that will be the taxpayer having to bid on the auction of available tuitions. The death of publicly funded education would be another step closer. I can see the public education system resembling the rust belt at worst and privatized jails at best. I'm now wondering how many of the mob at a book burning have a secondary education. How many Baptists at a snake charming ceremony have a high school diploma? How many of the pervert Mormon's thirty wives have completed grade nine? How many ex-navy guys in Holland MI. finished grade four? I passed! The problem is you dumbass Canucks who never finished grade three :-) |
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Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: On 3/5/2011 1:06 AM, m II wrote: [...] On 11-03-04 12:40 PM, dave wrote: On 03/04/2011 10:48 AM, wrote: You betcher ass those 'elections' are Rigged! cuhulin They can only rig them a little. You have to have a "rig proof" majority to win. Rigging can also involve the pre-selection of the candidates made available for you to choose from. mike [...] Exactly. We get a choice of Smiling Liar Number One and Smiling Liar Number Two, and both are carefully vetted by the money-men before we ever hear of them. On the rare occasions when a candidate not desired by the Jewish power structure makes it through that gauntlet, the media (both "conservative" and "liberal") will scream to high heaven at the "evil" of the genuine candidate, and he or she will get the same treatment that Charlie Sheen and James Traficant and David Duke and Rick Sanchez and Cynthia McKinney got: they will spy on him, haunt him day and night looking for anything that looks bad, ply all his exes with money for "dirt," and send in sex operatives to destroy him if necessary. When anyone gets that kind of treatment from the establishment and the media, it is logical to conclude that there is _something_ good, genuine, and honorable about him or her. I'm curious, Kevin. Are you on some sort of tether, and are you required to report your whereabouts on a regular basis? |
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rec.autos.tech newsgroup.
Consumers Report thread about Volt and Leaf. I am Glad those Leafs are not made at the Nissan factory I-55 Gluckstadt exit about fifteen - twenty miles North of doggy's couch. Doggy said she don't want nuttin to do with those Queer cars! http://www.southernautocorridor.com cuhulin |
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Hash: SHA1 "dxAce" wrote in message ... m II wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-05 06:55 AM, D Peter Maus wrote: Regardless of income. Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the support, anyway. The possible converse, and rather likely outcome of that will be the taxpayer having to bid on the auction of available tuitions. The death of publicly funded education would be another step closer. I can see the public education system resembling the rust belt at worst and privatized jails at best. I'm now wondering how many of the mob at a book burning have a secondary education. How many Baptists at a snake charming ceremony have a high school diploma? How many of the pervert Mormon's thirty wives have completed grade nine? How many ex-navy guys in Holland MI. finished grade four? I passed! The problem is you dumbass Canucks who never finished grade three :-) Grade three in our universities. I keep forgetting y'all don't have no universities in the hills thar and yur hay tech stuff is all imported Canuckis. But they is jus' watchin' mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNclnuAAoJEJXfKw5kUPt72RkIAJOkkKDhwr 9043xWntZaE5vl jLvHy2ia6+X2xQS9urG3749T1C6g02gT/cc6GlwU/P7b5RwR4G2E1S/hm9cz/Krt 84h9rzdbAZeG0X12zHcI1Fz9N2Fst3eR2zipRoiRO9yLcvDox0 +OdZsdjYFy3G+g KAlb0qDaxgKpbyQMjVe9asd43m4ytTQYreu2GpO03/IjL78uJoYiY7BmQuQrF+su qK9sqH15Lo1xDlIMpRX+92Y6aHuRS5vtgJKc3PJ4GCtKp9V+4U c5yzoqj2qznXE8 IbXkU8RK/qGcGFJ3aLKT18dZ2GXcD4KrDGtPgwpJea5d5BOF2ZVfL2VXj9l SVAk= =PSqe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
D Peter Maus wrote: On 3/4/11 19:28 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/4/2011 2:01 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote: There's nothing that says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of Wisconsin are behind the Governor. Well, that theory of yours would not explain why the NBC / Wall Street Journal poll showed that 77% of the people think public unions SHOULD be allowed to have collective bargaining. Interesting what you eliminate, when you quote these surveys. 77% of the peeople believe public sector unions should have collective bargaining privileges (it's a privilege, not a right), but that same survey revealed that 60%+ believe that there should not be public sector unions in the first place, and that 3:1 they believe that the budget must be balanced and that public sector union benefits are to blame for a lion's share of the shortfall. So, again, the people are behind the Governor. At least right now. And the Dems In Exile are fast falling from grace with now talks about recall elections to remove the Dems from office. To say nothing of all the talk to recall the Republican governor from office. Interesting also what the skew is on that. But keep swinging, Joe. I think Joe is striking out! |
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PGP Signed Service.Is that Pop Tart?
On Raggggggggland Road, of an Autum Dayyyyyyy,,,,,, I kissed her and I Knewwwwww,,,,,,,, her auburn hairr would weave a snare that I might someday ruuuuuue,,,,,,,,,,, the queen of hearrts was making Tarts,,,,,,,, cuhulin |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
On 3/5/2011 7:58 AM, dxAce wrote:
Damn, you Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists sure are stupid. You are clearly mentally ill. Good old Lare...steady as a rock. You can always, Always, ALWAYS count on him to tap-dance around the issues and resort to his old standby of name calling. C'mon Lare, tell us your thoughts on your new Republican governor TAKING money out of YOUR pocket and GIVING it as a gift to Big Business...and then having the bare faced gall to call it *shared* sacrifice. I know it will be tough for you to refrain from name calling and tap-dancing around the issue (old habits die hard), but maybe you can do it! |
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Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/5/2011 7:58 AM, dxAce wrote: Damn, you Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists sure are stupid. You are clearly mentally ill. Good old Lare...steady as a rock. You can always, Always, ALWAYS count on him to tap-dance around the issues and resort to his old standby of name calling. C'mon Lare, tell us your thoughts on your new Republican governor TAKING money out of YOUR pocket and GIVING it as a gift to Big Business...and then having the bare faced gall to call it *shared* sacrifice. I know it will be tough for you to refrain from name calling and tap-dancing around the issue (old habits die hard), but maybe you can do it! You're confused. But then, being a mentally ill Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist, you know all about confusion. Get back to me when you get the facts straight. |
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On 3/5/2011 8:55 AM, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/4/11 19:28 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/4/2011 2:01 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote: There's nothing that says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of Wisconsin are behind the Governor. Well, that theory of yours would not explain why the NBC / Wall Street Journal poll showed that 77% of the people think public unions SHOULD be allowed to have collective bargaining. Interesting what you eliminate, when you quote these surveys. 77% of the peeople believe public sector unions should have collective bargaining privileges (it's a privilege, not a right), but that same survey revealed that 60%+ believe that there should not be public sector unions in the first place, and that 3:1 they believe that the budget must be balanced and that public sector union benefits are to blame for a lion's share of the shortfall. Yes, blame the middle class, not Big Business or Wall Street. C'mon now...the average salary of all state workers is ~$47,600. That hardly seems like the "lion's share of the shortfall". (and yes, they may have a decent pension, but they are trading off a lower salary now for a better pension in the future). Keep on demonizing those evil public employees or as Christie, the NJ guv calls all those nurses and garbage truck drivers, the "elite". So, again, the people are behind the Governor. Sort of a vague statement. Many may be behind him, but many aren't. At least right now. And the Dems In Exile are fast falling from grace with now talks about recall elections to remove the Dems from office. To say nothing of all the talk to recall the Republican governor from office. Interesting also what the skew is on that. But keep swinging, Joe. Huh? I truly miss your point on "skew" and "keep swinging(?)". The people that are not behind Walker are boiling mad. Thus a Repub recall is certainly a legitimate concern and well within the realm of possibility. So, your point is? Which, actually, may be unnecessary. If they remain out of the state long enough, they'll run afoul of existing laws and will lose their offices, anyway. And that deadline is closing fast. They claim they're working, while away, and are protected from the desertion clauses, but that may be sophistry. If they claim they're working, but are not available (in mass, yet), to vote on pending legislation, then the law says they're not working. And the people are in agreement. But here's the part that's really sticking in the public craw...The Democrats are remaining out of state to avoid facing a vote they will most certainly lose. They may well lose, but they are trying to stick up for the middle class. No, they're not. They're trying to stick up for political contributors. Well, that's a dodge on your part. Not like Walker isn't sticking up for the Koch brothers? As you seem to be on the side of Governor Walker, let me present you with some facts and ask you a question… *Apparently, you see no problem with teachers, nurses, librarians, policemen and firemen losing their rights. No one is losing any rights. Only a privilege that even George Meaney of the AFL-CIO said they had no business getting in the first place. and he said that decades ago. I can't verify that -- and I find it hard to believe a union leader would say workers of any stripe should not have collective bargaining. However, in Wisconsin the workers -have- had that "privilege" for decades...and they may be losing that. And you are splitting hairs and playing a little semantics here, with the "rights" vs "privilege". Bottom line, if this goes through, they will indeed be in a "My way or the highway" situation, a position most of us would not prefer to be in. *What about Walker trying to *ram rod* through in record time this bill that also has a NO-BID clause for the state’s power plants. This should be patently illegal for either party. “No-bid” is just an invitation for corruption. *Even though the “David Koch” was a fake, the point is that Walker –believed- he was real. Legitimate people with legitimate government business cannot get through to the governor on the first call and get 20 minutes of his uninterrupted time like "Koch" did. Really? I did. You did what? Got to talk to the Governor of Wisconsin? For 20 minutes? On the first call? And you're not even a full-time resident of Wisconsin? I'm not disputing you, but that -does- stretch credulity. This would seem to indicate that Walker thinks the Koch brothers are his true bosses. Sophistry. I heard the playback of the call. He sounded like he was massaging a contributor. Too bad he couldn't devote the same effort to actually sit down with the unions and discuss the issue -- rather than reject out of hand the unions offer of economic concessions and spend time kissing the ass of his Koch brothers masters. No different than NPR taking calls from patrons, making promises on programming they have no intention of keeping, and then ignoring that programming once the checks clear. This is really another entirely different debate. I don't know NPR policies as well as you seem to think you do. You are laying some pretty serious charges. Finally, what you say makes no sense -- as it would seem that NPR could could only pull that stunt once, before the word of it spread like wildfire. Again, I'm not disputing you, but you -are- stretching credulity. *In this same bill, Walker is removing the salary income price cap on vouchers for private schools. This would allow children of the wealthy to attend private schools at tax payer's expense. No, it would allow citizens to send their children to private school without having to pay for the public schools at the same time. No one should have to pay the costs of a system that they're currently paying exorbitant rates not to use. Regardless of income. Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the support, anyway. Hmmm, why was there a salary cap in the first place, if not to keep the rich from abusing the system. And just exactly how do you propose that the middle class and the poor "compete" to get into those private schools? Let me close with a few more examples of Walker's sleaze... 1) If, as you said in your opening statement above that "public sector union benefits are to blame for a lion's share of the shortfall", why would the police and fire unions get a free pass and be exempt? I know, just purely a coincidence that the police/fire unions got a free pass because they originally supported Walker. Coincidence?...yeah, right. Sleaze. 2) Don't forget the Milwaukee scandal. When Walker was a Milwaukee County executive, he fired all the union county security guards and replaced them with private guards from Wackenhut, a BRITISH company (so much for the Repubs being concerned about "jobs, jobs, jobs"). Later, the courts ruled that he illegally fired the original guards, who the county had to hire back, WITH back pay. Walker's union busting folly cost the county $500,000. Hmmm, maybe Walker is a part of the budget shortfall. Sleaze. 3) The Federal government was going to pay for a high speed rail between Milwaukee and Madison. Walker turned it down cold. Please understand that this project was NOT like Alaska's "Bridge to Nowhere"; Milwaukee is Wisconsin's biggest city and Madison is the state capitol and has a very large university. The route would have gotten plenty of traffic and created many, many jobs. But for some kind of hare-brained tea-bagger reason, Walker killed the whole thing. And how ironic -- the Republicans said their main goal was "Jobs, jobs, jobs". Yet more sleaze and more broken promises about jobs. Bottom line: You appear to be a rabid Republican (with tea-bagger leanings) supporter of Walker, apparently no matter what he does, no matter how unethical he is. I believe Walker is a sleaze bag that is selling the people of Wisconsin down the river on many fronts. Neither of us is going to convince either of us otherwise. Please feel free to have the last word. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/5/2011 8:55 AM, D Peter Maus wrote: On 3/4/11 19:28 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/4/2011 2:01 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote: There's nothing that says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of Wisconsin are behind the Governor. Well, that theory of yours would not explain why the NBC / Wall Street Journal poll showed that 77% of the people think public unions SHOULD be allowed to have collective bargaining. Interesting what you eliminate, when you quote these surveys. 77% of the peeople believe public sector unions should have collective bargaining privileges (it's a privilege, not a right), but that same survey revealed that 60%+ believe that there should not be public sector unions in the first place, and that 3:1 they believe that the budget must be balanced and that public sector union benefits are to blame for a lion's share of the shortfall. Yes, blame the middle class, not Big Business or Wall Street. C'mon now...the average salary of all state workers is ~$47,600. That hardly seems like the "lion's share of the shortfall". (and yes, they may have a decent pension, but they are trading off a lower salary now for a better pension in the future). Keep on demonizing those evil public employees or as Christie, the NJ guv calls all those nurses and garbage truck drivers, the "elite". So, again, the people are behind the Governor. Sort of a vague statement. Many may be behind him, but many aren't. At least right now. And the Dems In Exile are fast falling from grace with now talks about recall elections to remove the Dems from office. To say nothing of all the talk to recall the Republican governor from office. Interesting also what the skew is on that. But keep swinging, Joe. Huh? I truly miss your point on "skew" and "keep swinging(?)". The people that are not behind Walker are boiling mad. Thus a Repub recall is certainly a legitimate concern and well within the realm of possibility. So, your point is? Which, actually, may be unnecessary. If they remain out of the state long enough, they'll run afoul of existing laws and will lose their offices, anyway. And that deadline is closing fast. They claim they're working, while away, and are protected from the desertion clauses, but that may be sophistry. If they claim they're working, but are not available (in mass, yet), to vote on pending legislation, then the law says they're not working. And the people are in agreement. But here's the part that's really sticking in the public craw...The Democrats are remaining out of state to avoid facing a vote they will most certainly lose. They may well lose, but they are trying to stick up for the middle class. No, they're not. They're trying to stick up for political contributors. Well, that's a dodge on your part. Not like Walker isn't sticking up for the Koch brothers? As you seem to be on the side of Governor Walker, let me present you with some facts and ask you a question… *Apparently, you see no problem with teachers, nurses, librarians, policemen and firemen losing their rights. No one is losing any rights. Only a privilege that even George Meaney of the AFL-CIO said they had no business getting in the first place. and he said that decades ago. I can't verify that -- and I find it hard to believe a union leader would say workers of any stripe should not have collective bargaining. However, in Wisconsin the workers -have- had that "privilege" for decades...and they may be losing that. And you are splitting hairs and playing a little semantics here, with the "rights" vs "privilege". Bottom line, if this goes through, they will indeed be in a "My way or the highway" situation, a position most of us would not prefer to be in. *What about Walker trying to *ram rod* through in record time this bill that also has a NO-BID clause for the state’s power plants. This should be patently illegal for either party. “No-bid” is just an invitation for corruption. *Even though the “David Koch” was a fake, the point is that Walker –believed- he was real. Legitimate people with legitimate government business cannot get through to the governor on the first call and get 20 minutes of his uninterrupted time like "Koch" did. Really? I did. You did what? Got to talk to the Governor of Wisconsin? For 20 minutes? On the first call? And you're not even a full-time resident of Wisconsin? I'm not disputing you, but that -does- stretch credulity. This would seem to indicate that Walker thinks the Koch brothers are his true bosses. Sophistry. I heard the playback of the call. He sounded like he was massaging a contributor. Too bad he couldn't devote the same effort to actually sit down with the unions and discuss the issue -- rather than reject out of hand the unions offer of economic concessions and spend time kissing the ass of his Koch brothers masters. No different than NPR taking calls from patrons, making promises on programming they have no intention of keeping, and then ignoring that programming once the checks clear. This is really another entirely different debate. I don't know NPR policies as well as you seem to think you do. You are laying some pretty serious charges. Finally, what you say makes no sense -- as it would seem that NPR could could only pull that stunt once, before the word of it spread like wildfire. Again, I'm not disputing you, but you -are- stretching credulity. You clown 'tard Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists stretch credulity on a daily basis. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/5/2011 7:58 AM, dxAce wrote: Damn, you Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists sure are stupid. You are clearly mentally ill. Good old Lare...steady as a rock. You can always, Always, ALWAYS count on him to tap-dance around the issues and resort to his old standby of name calling. C'mon Lare, tell us your thoughts on your new Republican governor TAKING money out of YOUR pocket and GIVING it as a gift to Big Business...and then having the bare faced gall to call it *shared* sacrifice. I know it will be tough for you to refrain from name calling and tap-dancing around the issue (old habits die hard), but maybe you can do it! On 3/5/2011 2:47 PM, dxAce wrote: You're confused. But then, being a mentally ill Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist, you know all about confusion. Get back to me when you get the facts straight. Yet ANOTHER dodge and tap dance. Keep it up and people will start to think you don't have the brains or the balls to give a straightforward answer. Oh, sorry...most of them think that already. |
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Joe from Kokomo wrote: Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/5/2011 7:58 AM, dxAce wrote: Damn, you Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialists sure are stupid. You are clearly mentally ill. Good old Lare...steady as a rock. You can always, Always, ALWAYS count on him to tap-dance around the issues and resort to his old standby of name calling. C'mon Lare, tell us your thoughts on your new Republican governor TAKING money out of YOUR pocket and GIVING it as a gift to Big Business...and then having the bare faced gall to call it *shared* sacrifice. I know it will be tough for you to refrain from name calling and tap-dancing around the issue (old habits die hard), but maybe you can do it! On 3/5/2011 2:47 PM, dxAce wrote: You're confused. But then, being a mentally ill Liberal/Democrat/Marxist/Socialist, you know all about confusion. Get back to me when you get the facts straight. Yet ANOTHER dodge and tap dance. Keep it up and people will start to think you don't have the brains or the balls to give a straightforward answer. Oh, sorry...most of them think that already. Ah, another post from a clown 'tard who can't get his facts straight. |
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We got To the Shores of Tripoli starting right now, TCM channel.
We will probally be going to those Shores again pretty soon. cuhulin |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
On 3/5/2011 5:14 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:
[...] A lot of people seem to get confused between these two states. An easy way to remember them is: Wisconsin = cheeseheads. Michigan = (fewer and fewer) automobiles. Yes... and never forget the motto of Detroit: Where they make cars during the day -- and steel at night. (You might have to say it out loud to get it.) With every good wish, Kevin, WB4AIO. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Equality For All Workers *NOT* Special Privileges and Benefits ForCity, County and State Employees
On Mar 5, 5:55*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 3/4/11 19:28 , Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 3/4/2011 2:01 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote: There's nothing that says those fortunes can't change, but the truth is, that the people of Wisconsin are behind the Governor. Well, that theory of yours would not explain why the NBC / Wall Street Journal poll showed that 77% of the people think public unions SHOULD be allowed to have collective bargaining. * *Interesting what you eliminate, when you quote these surveys. 77% of the peeople believe public sector unions should have collective bargaining privileges (it's a privilege, not a right), but that same survey revealed that 60%+ believe that there should not be public sector unions in the first place, and that 3:1 they believe that the budget must be balanced and that public sector union benefits are to blame for a lion's share of the shortfall. * *So, again, the people are behind the Governor. At least right now. And the Dems In Exile are fast falling from grace with now talks about recall elections to remove the Dems from office. To say nothing of all the talk to recall the Republican governor from office. * *Interesting also what the skew is on that. But keep swinging, Joe. Which, actually, may be unnecessary. If they remain out of the state long enough, they'll run afoul of existing laws and will lose their offices, anyway. And that deadline is closing fast. They claim they're working, while away, and are protected from the desertion clauses, but that may be sophistry. If they claim they're working, but are not available (in mass, yet), to vote on pending legislation, then the law says they're not working. And the people are in agreement. But here's the part that's really sticking in the public craw...The Democrats are remaining out of state to avoid facing a vote they will most certainly lose. They may well lose, but they are trying to stick up for the middle class. * *No, they're not. They're trying to stick up for political contributors. As you seem to be on the side of Governor Walker, let me present you with some facts and ask you a question *Apparently, you see no problem with teachers, nurses, librarians, policemen and firemen losing their rights. * *No one is losing any rights. Only a privilege that even George Meaney of the AFL-CIO said they had no business getting in the first place. and he said that decades ago. *What about Walker trying to *ram rod* through in record time this bill that also has a NO-BID clause for the state s power plants. This should be patently illegal for either party. No-bid is just an invitation for corruption. *Even though the David Koch was a fake, the point is that Walker believed- he was real. Legitimate people with legitimate government business cannot get through to the governor on the first call and get 20 minutes of his uninterrupted time like "Koch" did. * *Really? * *I did. This would seem to indicate that Walker thinks the Koch brothers are his true bosses. * *Sophistry. I heard the playback of the call. He sounded like he was massaging a contributor. No different than NPR taking calls from patrons, making promises on programming they have no intention of keeping, and then ignoring that programming once the checks clear. *In this same bill, Walker is removing the salary income price cap on vouchers for private schools. This would allow children of the wealthy to attend private schools at tax payer's expense. * *No, it would allow citizens to send their children to private school without having to pay for the public schools at the same time. No one should have to pay the costs of a system that they're currently paying exorbitant rates not to use. * *Regardless of income. * *Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the support, anyway. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
On Mar 5, 6:57*am, dave wrote:
On 03/04/2011 10:10 PM, wrote: Those Volts (Stupid name for a car) and those Leafs aren't selling so Hot. - - Gas and Diesel RULES! Electric and Hybrids - - just don't 'cut it'.And they probally never will. - - cuhulin - They are selling as fast as they can make them aren't they? Take Away All The Government Subsidies and them see how Fast They Sell =rotfl= |
"The Voice of Canada" Spews Again !
On Mar 5, 7:42*am, m II wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-05 06:55 AM, D Peter Maus wrote: * Regardless of income. * Let the public schools compete for their tuition, just like the private schools. If they're not doing the job, they don't deserve the support, anyway. The possible converse, and rather likely outcome of that will be the taxpayer having to bid on the auction of available tuitions. The death of publicly funded education would be another step closer. I can see the public education system resembling the rust belt at worst and privatized jails at best. I'm now wondering how many of the mob at a book burning have a secondary education. How many Baptists at a snake charming ceremony have a high school diploma? How many of the pervert Mormon's thirty wives have completed grade nine? How many ex-navy guys in Holland MI. finished grade four? It's a slippery slope. mike Ah That's The Mike [M II] We Know Preaching Hate For All From Canada Mouthing Off His Biases For All From Canada Ranting Bigotry For All From Canada Mike [M II] : "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! ~ RHF |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
"m II" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-05 05:28 PM, dxAce wrote: Come on cocksuker, show me.. Look what I posted for trhee years after some other jerk disagreed with me. http://groups.google.ca/groups/searc...=m+II&safe=off mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNcuf6AAoJEJXfKw5kUPt7WOEH/0358I/QN/8WnaykmuGohLq5 g4tOPhDJMQ5CqmwHIuyfwI3MQVtbLut404gvOXjGjXQPIZeMIK 7pmOjUWvirR/e5 MY44zsW7JuIPM6WXIyIKkUNHbqbZ3FFdwK9ni8wkm/Jc017sT8NhY1ody05lDr2L JXWfnLok1imUU2JyAJ8a1DNBvoOZyWthC0M33HdLazbct1UBmy yg2WxgLAPMHr85 ZLqyk43FpxuWr4SQjsvGwcuv8TFmKa8aWDPO7FS9lys8lwnpAn badXV2hP5VXZ72 LUeLkT8yuwUWWhPBN2LDxBZSGg3GVGaS2t2wlIugt2G5ddCPqf sMMQFZ3UQmXNY= =nIDI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Yes, I realize that I said you could have the last word, and although I
disagree with many of your points, I will respond to only one, as this post is becoming unwieldy. Joe from Kokomo wrote: Let me close with a few more examples of Walker's sleaze... 2) Don't forget the Milwaukee scandal. When Walker was a Milwaukee County executive, he fired all the union county security guards and replaced them with private guards from Wackenhut, a BRITISH company (so much for the Repubs being concerned about "jobs, jobs, jobs"). Later, the courts ruled that he illegally fired the original guards, who the county had to hire back, WITH back pay. Walker's union busting folly cost the county $500,000. Hmmm, maybe Walker is a part of the budget shortfall. Sleaze. D. Peter Maus wrote: Nice spin, Joe. But this is a political discussion. Spin is essential, isn't it. Spin? What has "spin" got to do with it? The point that I was illustrating was Walker's sleaze. Even before he became governor, he had a hard-on to bust the unions, so much so, that he did it *ILLEGALLY* in Milwaukee, as determined by the courts. A very germane and factual point to support my statement of Walker's sleaze, not "spin" at all. A matter of public record that clearly indicates Walker's mind set. At best, your "spin" statement is disingenuous; at worst, intellectually dishonest. |
"The Voice of Canada" - I am a racist but....for a reason
On Mar 6, 8:08*am, "m II" wrote:
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:38:43 -0700 From: m II User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Subject: "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: $$-cwdql-plnwl2.news.x-privat.org Message-ID: Organization: X-Privat.Org NNTP Server -http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 51 X-Authenticated-User: $$sw9$93tx4oqxdlfbayv X-Complaints-To: Path: s02-b09.iad!npeersf02.iad.highwinds-media.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media..com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!noc.x-privat.org!x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: z rec.radio.shortwave:353708 X-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 23:39:02 UTC (s02-b09.iad) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-05 04:20 PM, RHF wrote: Ah That's The Mike [M II] We Know Preaching Hate For All From Canada Mouthing Off His Biases For All From Canada Ranting Bigotry For All From Canada Mike [M II] : "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! *~ RHF You really don't have any clue about the meaning of what you read, do you? Ninety percent of your responses have absolutely NO bearing on the subject at hand. While we're at it, just how long have you been defending the international trafficking of twelve year old females for the purposes of statutory rape? Would Jesus have approved? Why did He mention hanging a millstone around the necks of those who sexually abuse children? Do you know better than Jesus what is moral? Please, I'd like to hear your defense (again) of the sixty year old 'Mormon' fundamentalist with underage wives. Did you send one of YOUR kids to his harem? mike Mike [M II] : Don't Project Your Issues and Problems On To Me : You Wrote It Time and Time Again -so- You Own It [.] Ah Once Again That's The Mike [M II] We Know : Preaching Hate For All From Canada -wrt- Israel & Jews -wrt- The USA & Americans -wrt- Christians -wrt- Mormons -wrt- Persons-of-Faith & Believers Mouthing-Off His Biases For All From Canada Ranting Bigotry For All From Canada Mike [M II] : "The Voice of Canada" Spews Again ! ~ RHF |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
Joe from Kokomo wrote: Yes, I realize that I said you could have the last word, and although I disagree with many of your points, I will respond to only one, as this post is becoming unwieldy. Joe from Kokomo wrote: Let me close with a few more examples of Walker's sleaze... 2) Don't forget the Milwaukee scandal. When Walker was a Milwaukee County executive, he fired all the union county security guards and replaced them with private guards from Wackenhut, a BRITISH company (so much for the Repubs being concerned about "jobs, jobs, jobs"). Later, the courts ruled that he illegally fired the original guards, who the county had to hire back, WITH back pay. Walker's union busting folly cost the county $500,000. Hmmm, maybe Walker is a part of the budget shortfall. Sleaze. D. Peter Maus wrote: Nice spin, Joe. But this is a political discussion. Spin is essential, isn't it. Spin? What has "spin" got to do with it? The point that I was illustrating was Walker's sleaze. Even before he became governor, he had a hard-on to bust the unions, so much so, that he did it *ILLEGALLY* in Milwaukee, as determined by the courts. A very germane and factual point to support my statement of Walker's sleaze, not "spin" at all. A matter of public record that clearly indicates Walker's mind set. At best, your "spin" statement is disingenuous; at worst, intellectually dishonest. So, in reality, you're just ****ed because he had a hard-on, right? |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
On 3/6/11 13:39 , Joe from Kokomo wrote:
Yes, I realize that I said you could have the last word, and although I disagree with many of your points, I will respond to only one, as this post is becoming unwieldy. Of course. :) Joe from Kokomo wrote: Let me close with a few more examples of Walker's sleaze... 2) Don't forget the Milwaukee scandal. When Walker was a Milwaukee County executive, he fired all the union county security guards and replaced them with private guards from Wackenhut, a BRITISH company (so much for the Repubs being concerned about "jobs, jobs, jobs"). Later, the courts ruled that he illegally fired the original guards, who the county had to hire back, WITH back pay. Walker's union busting folly cost the county $500,000. Hmmm, maybe Walker is a part of the budget shortfall. Sleaze. D. Peter Maus wrote: Nice spin, Joe. But this is a political discussion. Spin is essential, isn't it. Spin? What has "spin" got to do with it? The point that I was illustrating was Walker's sleaze. Even before he became governor, he had a hard-on to bust the unions, so much so, that he did it *ILLEGALLY* in Milwaukee, as determined by the courts. A very germane and factual point to support my statement of Walker's sleaze, not "spin" at all. A matter of public record that clearly indicates Walker's mind set. At best, your "spin" statement is disingenuous; at worst, intellectually dishonest. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
"dave" wrote in message . .. On 03/04/2011 03:02 PM, MNMikew wrote: wrote in message . .. On 03/04/2011 07:27 AM, MNMikew wrote: ----------- There is a reason the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc. Outside money? No, unions give exclusively to the Dems. You live in the bubble! You live in the bubble! You live in denial. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message ... On 03/04/2011 07:27 AM, MNMikew wrote: There is a reason the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc. wrote: Outside money? On 3/4/2011 6:02 PM, MNMikew wrote: No, unions give exclusively to the Dems. Um, you seem to be overlooking something quite obvious. There -is- other "outside money" than from the unions, you know. Yes and of course, that is evil money. Whereas union money is all good. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
"Joe from wrote in message ... On 03/04/2011 07:27 AM, MNMikew wrote: There is a reason the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc. wrote: Outside money? On 3/4/2011 6:02 PM, MNMikew wrote: No, unions give exclusively to the Dems. Um, you seem to be overlooking something quite obvious. There -is- other "outside money" than from the unions, you know. On 3/7/2011 10:45 AM, MNMikew wrote: Yes and of course, that is evil money. Whereas union money is all good. I don't recall saying anything about "good" or "evil" money; it's -all- about HOW MUCH money. And I do recall saying in my previous post, Big Business (read Repubs) have a LOT more money than the unions. The quote you seemed to have 'overlooked' again: Have you forgotten that the Supreme Court ruled that Big Business can give an infinite amount money to political parties and candidates. And that Big Business has waaay deeper pockets than the unions could ever hope to have. That Big Business money might go a long way towards explaining why "the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc". |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
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Hash: SHA1 On 11-03-07 09:53 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote: I don't recall saying anything about "good" or "evil" money; it's -all- about HOW MUCH money. A partial solution could be implemented by banning ALL corporate and union contributions to political parties. A cap of 1000 dollars maximum contribution per year per person levels things out even better. It would be tax deductible, of course. No contributions in another person's name either. Not too surprisingly, the recipients of all the present day contributions think this is a bad idea. Graft and corruption will do that to people. mike -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNdRWLAAoJEJXfKw5kUPt7Q18H/2fiPzOANIbdFq+Gyn7IHM6I p5rBIPe+3Y6rBxc0IxaW8PCAsj9auJMFIySZNrYCmhED5L1kIi YNd50KGV5q/6sn JMgVjLrYACSGsTKyxGXKY4CFJWJ09O9FhKzgTK0hLQehnom4zC yL4343117RhFWN 0lzqTXczDtijGDagSIqVaEKZ4pNEGcyd5WyqPTo8idLmtuViLv +AvDJ6XNK0v7Zh dahSNXkldvlDFxxuROkwRh/FWGL2IV5X9DvM+NgUZX/g5FhSo0aOgGA6u8VLVE58 kjHf4Gv7PoLVyBR5jioz+RR1+YdXy7ccF0ZDcOTymsdPzvPO0W 1ij3MCsoO8LGU= =CGE4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message ... "Joe from wrote in message ... On 03/04/2011 07:27 AM, MNMikew wrote: There is a reason the Repubs swept the Dems out of ALL offices in Wisc. wrote: Outside money? On 3/4/2011 6:02 PM, MNMikew wrote: No, unions give exclusively to the Dems. Um, you seem to be overlooking something quite obvious. There -is- other "outside money" than from the unions, you know. On 3/7/2011 10:45 AM, MNMikew wrote: Yes and of course, that is evil money. Whereas union money is all good. I don't recall saying anything about "good" or "evil" money; it's -all- about HOW MUCH money. And I do recall saying in my previous post, Big Business (read Repubs) have a LOT more money than the unions. Actually if you check OpenSecrets you will find "big business" gives far more equally to Dems and Repubs than unions do. To say only Rebubs are the recipients of "big business" money is quite wrong. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
The Big Gun
http://www.rense.com/general93/big.htm I saw 'Puff the Magic Dragon' when I was over there.I Guarantee you did NOT want to mess with 'Puff' either! cuhulin |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
On 03/07/2011 09:36 AM, MNMikew wrote:
"Joe from wrote in message And I do recall saying in my previous post, Big Business (read Repubs) have a LOT more money than the unions. Actually if you check OpenSecrets you will find "big business" gives far more equally to Dems and Repubs than unions do. To say only Rebubs are the recipients of "big business" money is quite wrong. Pointlessly irrelevant. Money is not speech, for either side. We need election reform, or at least a passing of the "disclose" act, right now! |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
I saw an article at http://www.libertypost.org
BED BUGS have HIT the UN. Yeeeee Hawwwww,,,,,, I Likes that,,, I Likes That,,,,,, I LIKES THAT! SIC em BED BUGS, SIC EM!,,,,,,, NO Bed Bugs here. cuhulin |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
"dave" wrote in message . .. On 03/07/2011 09:36 AM, MNMikew wrote: "Joe from wrote in message And I do recall saying in my previous post, Big Business (read Repubs) have a LOT more money than the unions. Actually if you check OpenSecrets you will find "big business" gives far more equally to Dems and Repubs than unions do. To say only Rebubs are the recipients of "big business" money is quite wrong. Pointlessly irrelevant. Money is not speech, for either side. We need election reform, or at least a passing of the "disclose" act, right now! It was completely relevant to JoeKoko's post. |
It's 'The Curse' of "The SUV" !
Bob Dobbs wrote: wrote: I saw an article at http://www.libertypost.org BED BUGS have HIT the UN. Is it any wonder with the last two secretaries general having names like; coffee banana and monkey boom? I, Karl Mauritania, hope to achieve some sort of posting with the UN. If you can help, I have a relative who has a bank account in Nigeria with 20 Billion dollars in it, and we'll help you out. |
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