The Environmental Disaster is Western "Civilization"
 

On 03/17/2011 08:58 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 3/17/2011 11:46 AM, bpnjensen wrote:

There is nothing wrong with complex and apparently inconsistent
philosophy about things. It is a hallmark of humanity. The challenge
is to try to make sense of it all.

It is like making sense of insanity, if you can make sense of it, it
isn't insanity.


I fear you have already made the leap. If the developing world emulates
us, the planet has about 13 and a third years left as a spaceship for
humans.

The Environmental Disaster is Western "Civilization"
 

On Mar 18, 7:13*am, dave wrote:
On 03/17/2011 08:58 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:

On 3/17/2011 11:46 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
There is nothing wrong with complex and apparently inconsistent
philosophy about things. *It is a hallmark of humanity. *The challenge
is to try to make sense of it all.

It is like making sense of insanity, if you can make sense of it, it
isn't insanity.

I fear you have already made the leap. If the developing world emulates
us, the planet has about 13 and a third years left as a spaceship for
humans.

Between Foo-koo-shee-ma and Gha-dah-phee ( he did have an N.program a
little while back ! ) even 13 and 1/3 years might be a hypothetical
exaggeration . . .

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

On 3/18/2011 12:47 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 18, 9:26 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Then-Destroy-
wrote:
On 3/18/2011 11:14 AM, dave wrote:





On 03/18/2011 07:54 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 3/18/2011 7:13 AM, dave wrote:
On 03/17/2011 08:58 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 3/17/2011 11:46 AM, bpnjensen wrote:

There is nothing wrong with complex and apparently inconsistent
philosophy about things. It is a hallmark of humanity. The challenge
is to try to make sense of it all.

It is like making sense of insanity, if you can make sense of it, it
isn't insanity.

I fear you have already made the leap. If the developing world emulates
us, the planet has about 13 and a third years left as a spaceship for
humans.

There is always someone telling me the Earth will end and humans will
all die, it's the same over and over.

My Dad told me years and decades ago that "there is always someone
preaching apocalypse"....

So if we stop all progress and and do nothing else then people will die
and if we keep on this path people will die. There it is and given the
choice I'll let nature take it's course rather than believe the
doomsayers who seem to be really big liars. My father never died of
the apocolypse and I have lived through at least a prediction a year of
the planet and humanity being doomed......

Humans may cause societies to die, but it won't be from progress, it
will be because they think they know it all and they use central
planning to implement their "genius". It has happend time after time in
history.

Civilization is a failure. All governments are as you describe.
What good is gaining the whole world while losing one's soul?

My soul is fine, my ass is what is in question..... Civilization is NOT
doomed, the USA "United States" was a diverse society and when it is run
as the constitution suggests..... Diversity is how life survives.

Socialism and central planning is how civilizations die. Kill the Queen
and the hive will die. How do you kill 50 Queens?

We are guaranteed "hard times".... that's life, but only our arrogance
to think we know it all guarantees our "end times".- Hide quoted text -

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In about 200,000,000 years, the sun will become hot enojgh so that
water cannot remian as liquid on Earth.

Long before that we will have evolved against our best efforts to
remain static.

The end times for humans, and for life on Earth, is absolutely
guaranteed.


Humans may live on other planets in other solar systems by that time.
Humans may be able to create or transport a new or different sun to
replace it by that time.

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...the+red+Planet

(Mars)

Indian Point Nuke Plant Leaking 2-20 GPM Since 1993!
http://www.rense.com

Gallons Per Minute)

cuzz, you don't live down wind from that Indian Point Nuke Plant, do
you?
cuhulin

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

If Earth's overall temperature gets up to 140 degrees, or higher, and
stays like that long enough, all of Earth's water will split up
(Hydrogen and Oxygen) and drift up into outer Space.Earth would become
dry as a bone, no more water.Or so I once read somewhere years and years
ago.
cuhulin

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

On Mar 18, 1:22*pm, wrote:
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...the+red+Planet

(Mars)

Indian Point Nuke Plant Leaking 2-20 GPM Since 1993!http://www.rense.com

Gallons Per Minute)

cuzz, you don't live down wind from that Indian Point Nuke Plant, do
you?
cuhulin

As the crow flies- at least 65 miles . It's the water that we are
concerned , though . The bloody site is smack on the shore of the
Hudson (like in Fu-ku) ! Hope they will shut the damn place down ...

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

It is almost 65 miles from doggy's couch to Monroe,Louisiana.Get a map
of your area and a string and a push pin.You know the drill.
cuhulin

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

On 03/18/2011 10:45 PM, wrote:
It is almost 65 miles from doggy's couch to Monroe,Louisiana.Get a map
of your area and a string and a push pin.You know the drill.
cuhulin


Or use a free great circle distance calculator on the www

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

On 3/18/2011 10:49 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:44:03 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

The ONLY institution given the power to interpret what the
constitution means is the judiciary. The legislature can enact all
the ****ing laws it wants---but they must pass the USSC/Judiciary.


Quote me that part of the constitution... it doesn't exist in any copy
I have ever seen.

Once again, because you seem so ****ing dense

Show ME where in the constitution it says: "only a literal
interpretation of this constitution shall be legal"

Marbury v Madison, accepted since (about 1804), is the definitive
authorization for ONLY the judiciary to determine what the
constitution means/says.


Where is the authority to decide "Marbury" the way they did, in the
constitution?


One unconstitutional act to make it a constitutional act, is faulty logic.

"Progress" is a loaded word.
 

On 3/19/2011 10:38 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
On 3/18/2011 10:49 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:44:03 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
wrote:

The ONLY institution given the power to interpret what the
constitution means is the judiciary. The legislature can enact all
the ****ing laws it wants---but they must pass the USSC/Judiciary.


Quote me that part of the constitution... it doesn't exist in any copy
I have ever seen.

Once again, because you seem so ****ing dense

Show ME where in the constitution it says: "only a literal
interpretation of this constitution shall be legal"

Marbury v Madison, accepted since (about 1804), is the definitive
authorization for ONLY the judiciary to determine what the
constitution means/says.


Where is the authority to decide "Marbury" the way they did, in the
constitution?


One unconstitutional act to make it a constitutional act, is faulty logic.


Agreed. Impeach the SCOTUS