I did some surfing on the Internet and found a great deal of information
about Ground Antennas. Run a wire from a grounding rod to your antenna
lead on your radio and sure enough you start pulling in signals from the
ground. I conducted a simple test and it seems that some stations on the
lower bands offer very acceptable reception. I also read that this
matter was studied up until the 1930's and then all research ended. I
don't recall this ever discussed in this group before. Comments?

Roger

On 03/23/2011 04:56 AM, dave wrote:
On 03/23/2011 05:41 AM, RHF wrote:

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AWG 16/2 Low Voltage Landscape Cable 250' Spool
http://store.starrynightlights.com/cpw-16-2-250.html


iane ~ RHF
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.
Have you priced wire lately?

BTW: You can directly transmit AF from a pair of ground stakes to
another pair of ground stakes several dozen feet away.

I see you have prices above. Will this wire last if exposed to the
elements? What exactly is UV resistant?

On Mar 23, 4:39*am, wrote:
I did some surfing on the Internet and found a great deal of information
about Ground Antennas. * Run a wire from a grounding rod to your antenna
lead on your radio and sure enough you start pulling in signals from the
ground. I conducted a simple test and it seems that some stations on the
lower bands offer *very acceptable reception. *I also read that this
matter was studied up until the 1930's and then all research ended. *I
don't recall this ever discussed in this group before. * Comments?

Roger

On 3/23/2011 11:18 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 23, 4:39 am, wrote:
I did some surfing on the Internet and found a great deal of information
about Ground Antennas. Run a wire from a grounding rod to your antenna
lead on your radio and sure enough you start pulling in signals from the
ground. I conducted a simple test and it seems that some stations on the
lower bands offer very acceptable reception. I also read that this
matter was studied up until the 1930's and then all research ended. I
don't recall this ever discussed in this group before. Comments?

Roger

I wonder what would happen if you then also stuck a wire up a tree
amnd connected it to your radio's ground?


At radio frequencies, there's really no such thing as a grounded
wire. Get a few feet away from the ground point, and it isn't ground
anymore.

So a wire grounded at one end and running up to a tree limb on the
other, and tapped anywhere along its length to feed a receiver or
transmitter, is just a shunt-fed vertical or slant-wire antenna. You
can vary the feedpoint resistance, but little else, by moving the
tap up or down. WFAX (1220 kHz) in Falls Church, Virginia, gets out
very well using a shunt-fed grounded vertical. The popular folded
unipole MW antenna is a variation on that theme.


With all good wishes,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On 3/23/2011 9:55 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:39 am, wrote:
On 03/23/2011 08:18 AM, bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 23, 4:39 am, wrote:
I did some surfing on the Internet and found a great deal of information
about Ground Antennas. Run a wire from a grounding rod to your antenna
lead on your radio and sure enough you start pulling in signals from the
ground. I conducted a simple test and it seems that some stations on the
lower bands offer very acceptable reception. I also read that this
matter was studied up until the 1930's and then all research ended. I
don't recall this ever discussed in this group before. Comments?

Roger

I wonder what would happen if you then also stuck a wire up a tree
amnd connected it to your radio's ground?

I don't believe in ground.

It sure helps here! It both drains off some of the noise and cranks
up the signal. It's easy to tell when the grounds are disconnected...

I'm floating. The coax shield has a lightning ground where it enters the
shack. The 43'vertical is like a really big CB radio groundplane on the
roof. Every antenna except for traveling wave antennas is a dipole.

On Mar 23, 7:58*pm, dave wrote:
On 3/23/2011 9:55 AM, bpnjensen wrote:





On Mar 23, 7:39 am, *wrote:
On 03/23/2011 08:18 AM, bpnjensen wrote:

On Mar 23, 4:39 am, wrote:
I did some surfing on the Internet and found a great deal of information
about Ground Antennas. * Run a wire from a grounding rod to your antenna
lead on your radio and sure enough you start pulling in signals from the
ground. I conducted a simple test and it seems that some stations on the
lower bands offer *very acceptable reception. *I also read that this
matter was studied up until the 1930's and then all research ended. *I
don't recall this ever discussed in this group before. * Comments?

Roger

I wonder what would happen if you then also stuck a wire up a tree
amnd connected it to your radio's ground?

I don't believe in ground.

It sure helps here! *It both drains off some of the noise and cranks
up the signal. *It's easy to tell when the grounds are disconnected....

I'm floating. The coax shield has a lightning ground where it enters the
shack. The 43'vertical is like a really big CB radio groundplane on the
roof. Every antenna except for traveling wave antennas is a dipole.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't agree with this formulation . There are many other antenna types
and none of them are dipoles .

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I did some surfing on the Internet and found a great deal of information
about Ground Antennas. Run a wire from a grounding rod to your antenna
lead on your radio and sure enough you start pulling in signals from the
ground. I conducted a simple test and it seems that some stations on the
lower bands offer very acceptable reception. I also read that this
matter was studied up until the 1930's and then all research ended. I
don't recall this ever discussed in this group before. Comments?

Roger



Any signal is a "voltage difference".
This means between two points.
Ground is ground and is not considered any
signal...zip...zilch...zero..nada..nothing...refer ence 0.

You are a moron. Study up some first.



mike





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It seems that you are the one who should do some research. Do a Google
Search on "ground antenna" and prove me wrong. You also might want to
call the US Navy "morons" since they did research on the matter as far
back as 1919 and are still involved with this subject as it relates to
submarines.
Right now I am listening to Alex Jones on 4.840 mhz via my Icom R71-A
connected to my ground antenna. Signal quality is fine.

Roger


Try to **actually** think, for once.

mike


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I asked for comments on the subject matter and not criticism from the
little people. My test of a "ground antenna" at this location consisted
of signal reception from Ham Radio operators. The signals I received
were their voice transmissions on 3.860 LSB, 3.950 LSB, and 3.970 LSB.
Those signals were weak/readable with very little static. Recepton from
some of the Big Gun SW stations was impressive. It was an interesting
test and one that I will expand upon in the future. All of the required
information can be obtained from the Internet to include US Patent
information on a "ground antenna".


Roger

On 03/24/2011 07:52 PM, wrote:

It seems that you are the one who should do some research. Do a Google
Search on "ground antenna" and prove me wrong. You also might want to
call the US Navy "morons" since they did research on the matter as far
back as 1919 and are still involved with this subject as it relates to
submarines.
Right now I am listening to Alex Jones on 4.840 mhz via my Icom R71-A
connected to my ground antenna. Signal quality is fine.

Roger


Roger! Roger.