On Mar 31, 11:31*pm, dave wrote:
On 03/31/2011 05:12 AM, wrote:

On Mar 31, 8:02 am, *wrote:

The most noble thing a soldier can do is refuse to go to war for stupid
reasons.

Most wars do start for fairly stupid reasons . For instance : the
Hundred Year War , Spanish - American War , Russo-Japanese War , WW
I . *A soldier that refuses given orders is normally court-
martialled . Nothing noble here whatsoever .

The military here is all volunteer. If they wanted war to end they could
do it. No one else can. If we decide as an informed populace that
conflict is best settled with bombs (insane) then send all able bodied
young people, as determined by a lottery.

War, as practiced by the USA, is evil and perverse. You want to know who
the grownups are? India, Brazil, Germany.

India is definitily growing up-- in population . The last count is
1.21 Billion people . Brazil is not exactly a fully developed country
(relatively speaking ) . . . Germany, OTH, well I didn't expect them
to get involved in Libya at all . . . Memories of Africa Korps
(1941-43) are still quite fresh !