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Cleaning out QEX magazines
I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994.
About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 04/12/2011 02:13 PM, amdx wrote:
I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek Not to pee on your Wheaties, but isn't QEX available online to ARRL members? Great magazine. Way more meat than QST. |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew dave wrote:
On 04/12/2011 02:13 PM, amdx wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek Not to pee on your Wheaties, but isn't QEX available online to ARRL members? Great magazine. Way more meat than QST. The _indices_ are; the articles seem always to be unavailable for reasons that don't make sense. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO Tired old sysadmin |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
mikea wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew dave wrote: On 04/12/2011 02:13 PM, amdx wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek Not to pee on your Wheaties, but isn't QEX available online to ARRL members? Great magazine. Way more meat than QST. The _indices_ are; the articles seem always to be unavailable for reasons that don't make sense. It makes sense if you realize ARRL is a publishing house and not much else. Why would they give their products away. Henry WA0GOZ |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/13/2011 8:16 AM, mikea wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew wrote: On 04/12/2011 02:13 PM, amdx wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek Not to pee on your Wheaties, but isn't QEX available online to ARRL members? Great magazine. Way more meat than QST. The _indices_ are; the articles seem always to be unavailable for reasons that don't make sense. From the ARRL Web site itself: http://www.arrl.org/arrl-periodicals-archive-search "About this database. This database contains an index of articles for QST from 1915 to the present, QEX from 1981 to the present, Ham Radio from 1968 to 1990 and NCJ from 1973 to the present. (Note: Beginning in 1998, each issue of QEX covers two months. This index shows the first month. For example, the index shows the January/February 1998 issue of QEX as Jan 1998 QEX.)" So, the index covers anything for which I'd be interested. But I am more interested in obtaining past articles. Then there is this: "QST Archive for Members Only - ARRL Members can access the QST magazine archive online, from December 1915 through December 2007." Also: "ARRL Periodicals on CD-ROM - Recent volumes of QST magazine and back issues of QEX, NCJ and Ham Radio magazines are available on CD-ROM." I guess this means that, if you want to get articles later than 2007, then you must buy the CD. Thanks for spurring my research on this. Now I will re-evaluate the importance of remaining a member. John |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 04/13/2011 05:18 PM, John KD5YI wrote:
On 4/13/2011 8:16 AM, mikea wrote: In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew wrote: On 04/12/2011 02:13 PM, amdx wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek Not to pee on your Wheaties, but isn't QEX available online to ARRL members? Great magazine. Way more meat than QST. The _indices_ are; the articles seem always to be unavailable for reasons that don't make sense. From the ARRL Web site itself: http://www.arrl.org/arrl-periodicals-archive-search "About this database. This database contains an index of articles for QST from 1915 to the present, QEX from 1981 to the present, Ham Radio from 1968 to 1990 and NCJ from 1973 to the present. (Note: Beginning in 1998, each issue of QEX covers two months. This index shows the first month. For example, the index shows the January/February 1998 issue of QEX as Jan 1998 QEX.)" So, the index covers anything for which I'd be interested. But I am more interested in obtaining past articles. Then there is this: "QST Archive for Members Only - ARRL Members can access the QST magazine archive online, from December 1915 through December 2007." Also: "ARRL Periodicals on CD-ROM - Recent volumes of QST magazine and back issues of QEX, NCJ and Ham Radio magazines are available on CD-ROM." I guess this means that, if you want to get articles later than 2007, then you must buy the CD. Thanks for spurring my research on this. Now I will re-evaluate the importance of remaining a member. John I give them money to fight BPL. The rest is ad-supported gravy. |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/13/2011 7:24 PM, dave wrote:
On 04/13/2011 05:18 PM, John KD5YI wrote: On 4/13/2011 8:16 AM, mikea wrote: In rec.radio.amateur.homebrew wrote: On 04/12/2011 02:13 PM, amdx wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek Not to pee on your Wheaties, but isn't QEX available online to ARRL members? Great magazine. Way more meat than QST. The _indices_ are; the articles seem always to be unavailable for reasons that don't make sense. From the ARRL Web site itself: http://www.arrl.org/arrl-periodicals-archive-search "About this database. This database contains an index of articles for QST from 1915 to the present, QEX from 1981 to the present, Ham Radio from 1968 to 1990 and NCJ from 1973 to the present. (Note: Beginning in 1998, each issue of QEX covers two months. This index shows the first month. For example, the index shows the January/February 1998 issue of QEX as Jan 1998 QEX.)" So, the index covers anything for which I'd be interested. But I am more interested in obtaining past articles. Then there is this: "QST Archive for Members Only - ARRL Members can access the QST magazine archive online, from December 1915 through December 2007." Also: "ARRL Periodicals on CD-ROM - Recent volumes of QST magazine and back issues of QEX, NCJ and Ham Radio magazines are available on CD-ROM." I guess this means that, if you want to get articles later than 2007, then you must buy the CD. Thanks for spurring my research on this. Now I will re-evaluate the importance of remaining a member. John I give them money to fight BPL. The rest is ad-supported gravy. I kinda thought that was what I was doing by being a member. I've been paying: ARRL membership $39 QEX for members $24 ------ Total $63 If I drop my ARRL membership the cost would be: ARRL membership $00 QEX non-member $36 -------- Total $36 Almost a 43% reduction in cost to get the cream of publications. Of course, I'd be giving up QST. Somehow, that doesn't bother me too much. John |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4-14-2011 01:01, John KD5YI wrote:
I kinda thought that was what I was doing by being a member. I've been paying: ARRL membership $39 QEX for members $24 ------ Total $63 If I drop my ARRL membership the cost would be: ARRL membership $00 QEX non-member $36 -------- Total $36 Almost a 43% reduction in cost to get the cream of publications. Of course, I'd be giving up QST. Somehow, that doesn't bother me too much. John I re-joined ARRL a few years back after having let my membership lapse because of what I considered a lack of technical articles in QST. I was primarily a member to get QST. After my membership expired again, I got boatloads of mailings from ARRL, begging me to come back and even offering a choice of a book to get me to come back. I mailed back their letters with a hand written note saying I wasn't interested. They asked me why. I said QST isn't nearly technical enough for me anymore. They suggested I get QEX. So I made a "counter-offer"...I asked them to substitute QEX for QST. They basically laughed and said they couldn't do that. Seems it would have saved them some money as QEX only comes out 6 timers per year versus 12 for QST. So, now they get NO money from me... N0EDV |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On Apr 13, 11:16*pm, Scott wrote:
On 4-14-2011 01:01, John KD5YI wrote: I kinda thought that was what I was doing by being a member. I've been paying: ARRL membership $39 QEX for members $24 ------ Total $63 If I drop my ARRL membership the cost would be: ARRL membership $00 QEX non-member $36 -------- Total $36 Almost a 43% reduction in cost to get the cream of publications. Of course, I'd be giving up QST. Somehow, that doesn't bother me too much. John I re-joined ARRL a few years back after having let my membership lapse because of what I considered a lack of technical articles in QST. *I was primarily a member to get QST. *After my membership expired again, I got boatloads of mailings from ARRL, begging me to come back and even offering a choice of a book to get me to come back. *I mailed back their letters with a hand written note saying I wasn't interested. *They asked me why. *I said QST isn't nearly technical enough for me anymore. *They suggested I get QEX. *So I made a "counter-offer"...I asked them to substitute QEX for QST. *They basically laughed and said they couldn't do that. *Seems it would have saved them some money as QEX only comes out 6 timers per year versus 12 for QST. *So, now they get NO money from me... N0EDV- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's what libraries were invented for : long time ago . And free . |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/14/2011 7:49 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/13/2011 9:01 PM, John KD5YI wrote: I've been paying: ARRL membership $39 QEX for members $24 ------ Total $63 If I drop my ARRL membership the cost would be: ARRL membership $00 QEX non-member $36 -------- Total $36 Almost a 43% reduction in cost to get the cream of publications. Of course, I'd be giving up QST. Somehow, that doesn't bother me too much. John I would respectfully suggest that you are missing the big picture. It's not just the magazine(s). Well, maybe. I think that the big picture depends on the desires of the observer. Like them or not, the ARRL is the ONLY organization that supports ham radio on a national level, going to bat for us before Congress and the FCC. 73, Joe It is not that I do not like the ARRL. I've been a member for many years. But, just being a member doesn't pay for that support. Notice from the cost of membership shown on the ARRL site that only $8 per year is left over after paying for QST. I'd bet that that $8 barely pays them to maintain their records and Web site. What they apparently depend on for money to represent us in Washington is donations. Along with volunteers, perhaps. So, does this mean that those of us who do not send in donations are missing the big picture? 73, John |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/14/2011 12:56 PM, John KD5YI wrote:
On 4/14/2011 7:49 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 4/13/2011 9:01 PM, John KD5YI wrote: I've been paying: ARRL membership $39 QEX for members $24 ------ Total $63 If I drop my ARRL membership the cost would be: ARRL membership $00 QEX non-member $36 -------- Total $36 Almost a 43% reduction in cost to get the cream of publications. Of course, I'd be giving up QST. Somehow, that doesn't bother me too much. John I would respectfully suggest that you are missing the big picture. It's not just the magazine(s). Well, maybe. I think that the big picture depends on the desires of the observer. Like them or not, the ARRL is the ONLY organization that supports ham radio on a national level, going to bat for us before Congress and the FCC. 73, Joe It is not that I do not like the ARRL. I've been a member for many years. But, just being a member doesn't pay for that support. Notice from the cost of membership shown on the ARRL site that only $8 per year is left over after paying for QST. I'd bet that that $8 barely pays them to maintain their records and Web site. What they apparently depend on for money to represent us in Washington is donations. Along with volunteers, perhaps. So, does this mean that those of us who do not send in donations are missing the big picture? 73, John Well, I overlooked the revenue generated by ads in QST. It is probably true that a greater membership means a greater magazine circulation which means ads can garner more because they reach a greater audience. I just wanted that on record to show I am not advocating discontinuing membership. 73, John |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4-14-2011 12:51, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4/13/2011 11:16 PM, Scott wrote: I re-joined ARRL a few years back after having let my membership lapse because of what I considered a lack of technical articles in QST. I was primarily a member to get QST. After my membership expired again, I got boatloads of mailings from ARRL, begging me to come back and even offering a choice of a book to get me to come back. I mailed back their letters with a hand written note saying I wasn't interested. They asked me why. I said QST isn't nearly technical enough for me anymore. They suggested I get QEX. So I made a "counter-offer"...I asked them to substitute QEX for QST. They basically laughed and said they couldn't do that. Seems it would have saved them some money as QEX only comes out 6 timers per year versus 12 for QST. So, now they get NO money from me... N0EDV I would respectfully suggest that you are missing the big picture. It's not just the magazine(s). Like them or not, the ARRL is the ONLY organization that supports ham radio on a national level, going to bat for us before Congress and the FCC. 73, Joe Yes, I understand that very well. However, they should have more money to spend to fight for ham radio if they would let me substitute the 6 issues per year of QEX versus the 12 issues of QST. N0EDV |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/14/2011 5:18 PM, Scott wrote:
On 4-14-2011 12:51, Joe from Kokomo wrote: I would respectfully suggest that you are missing the big picture. It's not just the magazine(s). Like them or not, the ARRL is the ONLY organization that supports ham radio on a national level, going to bat for us before Congress and the FCC. 73, Joe Yes, I understand that very well. However, they should have more money to spend to fight for ham radio if they would let me substitute the 6 issues per year of QEX versus the 12 issues of QST. N0EDV I'm basing this opinion on the ARRL budgets that were published in QST about 20 years ago. They currently (still) claim they are there for mainly 2 things, protecting our rights and privileges as operators and adding new operators through education and other methods. Unless they have gotten rid of all the bits they used to have that they didn't need, they are still spending between 2 and 5% of the money they collect on what's supposed to be the main goal. Where does all the rest go? Read the budgets if they still make them available. Charlatans then, are they now? I don't know. And don't care. They lost me. tom K0TAR |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
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@taring.org says... I'm basing this opinion on the ARRL budgets that were published in QST about 20 years ago. They currently (still) claim they are there for mainly 2 things, protecting our rights and privileges as operators and adding new operators through education and other methods. Unless they have gotten rid of all the bits they used to have that they didn't need, they are still spending between 2 and 5% of the money they collect on what's supposed to be the main goal. Where does all the rest go? Read the budgets if they still make them available. Charlatans then, are they now? I don't know. And don't care. They lost me. tom K0TAR Pretty well identical with the UK situation. The RSGB have lost many, many members for these reasons - including me. |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/14/2011 5:18 PM, Scott wrote: On 4-14-2011 12:51, Joe from Kokomo wrote: I would respectfully suggest that you are missing the big picture. It's not just the magazine(s). Like them or not, the ARRL is the ONLY organization that supports ham radio on a national level, going to bat for us before Congress and the FCC. 73, Joe Yes, I understand that very well. However, they should have more money to spend to fight for ham radio if they would let me substitute the 6 issues per year of QEX versus the 12 issues of QST. N0EDV On 4/14/2011 9:47 PM, tom wrote: I'm basing this opinion on the ARRL budgets that were published in QST about 20 years ago. They currently (still) claim they are there for mainly 2 things, protecting our rights and privileges as operators and adding new operators through education and other methods. Unless they have gotten rid of all the bits they used to have that they didn't need, they are still spending between 2 and 5% of the money they collect on what's supposed to be the main goal. Where does all the rest go? Read the budgets if they still make them available. Charlatans then, are they now? I don't know. And don't care. They lost me. tom K0TAR tom, just my personal opinion, but too bad you left the ARRL and too bad you don't care. I don't know about your "2 to 5%" figure, but even if it is true, it's exactly 2 to 5% more than any other organization is spending to go to bat for ham radio...and IMHO, we NEED (and should support) a national organization. 73, Joe |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4-15-2011 12:27, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
tom, just my personal opinion, but too bad you left the ARRL and too bad you don't care. I don't know about your "2 to 5%" figure, but even if it is true, it's exactly 2 to 5% more than any other organization is spending to go to bat for ham radio...and IMHO, we NEED (and should support) a national organization. 73, Joe Why? If every ham just wrote to their elected officials (for the cost of a stamp, or free by email), they would get the message just as well, if not better than, if they got 1 letter or a personal visit from the ARRL "lobbyist". |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4-15-2011 12:27, Joe from Kokomo wrote: tom, just my personal opinion, but too bad you left the ARRL and too bad you don't care. I don't know about your "2 to 5%" figure, but even if it is true, it's exactly 2 to 5% more than any other organization is spending to go to bat for ham radio...and IMHO, we NEED (and should support) a national organization. 73, Joe On 4/15/2011 6:41 PM, Scott wrote: Why? If every ham just wrote to their elected officials (for the cost of a stamp, or free by email), they would get the message just as well, if not better than, if they got 1 letter or a personal visit from the ARRL "lobbyist". Just my personal opinion, but I believe it is quite naive to think that if "every ham just wrote". Extremely unlikely...and oh, if not the ARRL, just who do you think is going to tell the hams to write and what to write about? Finally, it's quite naive to think that a national lobbying organization is not helpful -- just look at how successful the NRA is. |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 04/15/2011 08:31 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 4-15-2011 12:27, Joe from Kokomo wrote: tom, just my personal opinion, but too bad you left the ARRL and too bad you don't care. I don't know about your "2 to 5%" figure, but even if it is true, it's exactly 2 to 5% more than any other organization is spending to go to bat for ham radio...and IMHO, we NEED (and should support) a national organization. 73, Joe On 4/15/2011 6:41 PM, Scott wrote: Why? If every ham just wrote to their elected officials (for the cost of a stamp, or free by email), they would get the message just as well, if not better than, if they got 1 letter or a personal visit from the ARRL "lobbyist". Just my personal opinion, but I believe it is quite naive to think that if "every ham just wrote". Extremely unlikely...and oh, if not the ARRL, just who do you think is going to tell the hams to write and what to write about? Finally, it's quite naive to think that a national lobbying organization is not helpful -- just look at how successful the NRA is. All of you are also forgetting that the ARRL (for better or worse) is now the 'back bone' of the system that handles testing for ham licenses. Without them it would be almost impossible to find where you can locally take the test to apply for or upgrade your ham ticket. The ARRL also publishes most of the test guide material (though I would be surprised if it wasn't also available on line). Finally they have a good line of excellent technical publications on radio and electronics technology. Also they DO offer membership without QST, for additional members of a family. Maybe the price of that will give you an idea of what they think the membership itself is worth. |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/15/2011 7:40 PM, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
On 04/15/2011 08:31 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 4-15-2011 12:27, Joe from Kokomo wrote: tom, just my personal opinion, but too bad you left the ARRL and too bad you don't care. I don't know about your "2 to 5%" figure, but even if it is true, it's exactly 2 to 5% more than any other organization is spending to go to bat for ham radio...and IMHO, we NEED (and should support) a national organization. 73, Joe On 4/15/2011 6:41 PM, Scott wrote: Why? If every ham just wrote to their elected officials (for the cost of a stamp, or free by email), they would get the message just as well, if not better than, if they got 1 letter or a personal visit from the ARRL "lobbyist". Just my personal opinion, but I believe it is quite naive to think that if "every ham just wrote". Extremely unlikely...and oh, if not the ARRL, just who do you think is going to tell the hams to write and what to write about? Finally, it's quite naive to think that a national lobbying organization is not helpful -- just look at how successful the NRA is. All of you are also forgetting that the ARRL (for better or worse) is now the 'back bone' of the system that handles testing for ham licenses. Without them it would be almost impossible to find where you can locally take the test to apply for or upgrade your ham ticket. The ARRL also publishes most of the test guide material (though I would be surprised if it wasn't also available on line). Finally they have a good line of excellent technical publications on radio and electronics technology. Also they DO offer membership without QST, for additional members of a family. Maybe the price of that will give you an idea of what they think the membership itself is worth. Yes, and the blind can get a membership without QST for $8, same as a family member without QST. That was where I got my number from in another post in this thread. Again, I am not suggesting anyone give up their membership in the ARRL. |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/15/2011 7:27 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
tom, just my personal opinion, but too bad you left the ARRL and too bad you don't care. I don't know about your "2 to 5%" figure, but even if it is true, it's exactly 2 to 5% more than any other organization is spending to go to bat for ham radio...and IMHO, we NEED (and should support) a national organization. 73, Joe The ARRL seems to have little to do with the most important part of getting new hams, licensing. The National VEC page, http://www.ncvec.org, apparently doesn't even acknowledge the ARRL. You have to search the site and get to Question Pool 3 to find the first hint of the ARRL, and it's an email address for WY1O, who seems quite dedicated and appears several more times. And he's all there is. So much for making new hams. tom K0TAR |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On Apr 12, 5:13*pm, "amdx" wrote:
I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. * * * * * * * * * Email me if interested. * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Mikek Hey OM: wtf we going to do now they not going to be making Japanese radios' anymore? 73 den8zu |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On Apr 16, 1:43*am, raypsi wrote:
On Apr 12, 5:13*pm, "amdx" wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. * * * * * * * * * Email me if interested. * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Mikek Hey OM: wtf we going to do now they not going to be making Japanese radios' anymore? 73 Those jap radio's sure will be hot 73 de n8zu |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On Apr 16, 1:46*am, raypsi wrote:
On Apr 16, 1:43*am, raypsi wrote: On Apr 12, 5:13*pm, "amdx" wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. * * * * * * * * * Email me if interested. * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Mikek Hey OM: wtf we going to do now they not going to be making Japanese radios' anymore? 73 Those jap radio's sure will be hot 73 de *n8zu And the radio's that aint hot will be hotter, de n8zu |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
On 4/16/2011 12:43 AM, raypsi wrote:
On Apr 12, 5:13 pm, wrote: I have a 22 lb box of QEX magazines from June 1982 to 1994. About 140 issues. I don't know if they are all there but most are. If anyone is interested in them, $10 plus shipping from 32405. Email me if interested. Mikek Hey OM: wtf we going to do now they not going to be making Japanese radios' anymore? 73 den8zu QEX is a magazine. They never made radios, Japanese or otherwise. John |
Gordon West is my hero
On 04/15/2011 08:21 PM, Scott wrote:
On 4-16-2011 00:40, Kenneth Scharf wrote: All of you are also forgetting that the ARRL (for better or worse) is now the 'back bone' of the system that handles testing for ham licenses. Without them it would be almost impossible to find where you can locally take the test to apply for or upgrade your ham ticket. Don't forget W5YI as a VEC. That's who I'm affiliated with, although I'm not active with any VEC at present. They list VEs by state, so you can find a local examiner. http://www.w5yi.org/exam_locations_ama.php .. |
Why-Not ? : A "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund !
On Apr 15, 8:13*pm, Scott wrote:
On 4-16-2011 00:31, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 4/15/2011 6:41 PM, Scott wrote: Why? If every ham just wrote to their elected officials (for the cost of a stamp, or free by email), they would get the message just as well, if not better than, if they got 1 letter or a personal visit from the ARRL "lobbyist". Just my personal opinion, but I believe it is quite naive to think that if "every ham just wrote". Extremely unlikely...and oh, if not the ARRL, just who do you think is going to tell the hams to write and what to write about? Well, if hams won't take any initiative to write their Congressmen, then they probably don't give two craps enough to really care if we lose bandwidth. *All proposed NPRMs are published in the Federal Register and a simple search on their website for "FCC" will list them.http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/multidb.cgi Finally, it's quite naive to think that a national lobbying organization is not helpful -- just look at how successful the NRA is. So, the ARRL is donating how much to political parties? The NRA has donated a bit over $18 million from 1989-2010. *They were number 39 of the top 140 donors... 39 National Rifle Assn *$18,209,746 * * 17%(To Dems) * *82% (To Repubs) THAT'S probably why they are so successful. *Money talks, BS Walks... http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php Didn't see the ARRL in the top 140. *Searched and didn't find them on the list at all. *#140 donated about $4.7 million over the same period. If the ARRL is so successful at lobbying, why did BPL go through even though they begged members to send more money to fight against it and lost the battle anyway? *Remember when the 13cm band used to be 2300-2450 MHz? *I do. *Remember when the 1.25M band used to be 220-225 MHz. *I do. *Remember when a lot of foreign countries had no code requirement for HF and we did? *I do. I'm not saying they aren't worth something, but why won't they give a guy a choice about which magazine he wants with his membership? Probably because QEX doesn't have so many ads as QST and they want the advertisers to get more bang for their buck (understandably, since they can charge more for ad space based on the number of magazine "subscribers") *IF* The ARRL want to have a real "Voice" at the Table in Congress and at the FCC :Then they have to be as 'smart' as the other "Players" in the Washington, DC Political 'Action' {Power} Game. Look At Success : Look at the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) : http://www.nrapvf.org/ You have and build your 'basic' ARRL Membership -roughly- 155,000 ARRL Members http://www.arrl.org/membership + Plus you have to have and build a supporting {Independent} "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund The ARRL has enough Members who are Lawyers set-up and make a "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund Do-Able and Work-Able -so- Just Do It ! Encourage Each ARRL Member to make a Matching {Voluntary} Contribution to the "Voice of Amateur Radio" [VoAR] PAC Fund -so- Take the 155,000 ARRL Members -by- $5 = $775,000 VoAR-PAC Fund : Figure about 20% for a Part-Time Lobbyist and leaves around $1000 in 'political' contributions per Member of Congress -by- $10 = $1,555,000 VoAR-PAC Fund : Figure about 20% for a Part-Time Lobbyist and leaves around $2000 in 'political' contributions per Member of Congress ? Is Your Amateur [Ham] Radio "Hobby" Worth an Extra $5 to $10 per Year To You For A Seat At The Table of Congress and the FCC in Washington, DC ? Promote the "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund to the American Public and the Corporate World Git Them To Become Sponsors and Underwriters of the "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund too. Then Use the "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund Money to Lobby Congress and the FCC to ensure Fairness and Equal Treatment for Amateur Radio in Congress and Before the FCC. It's All Legal & It's All Good - it's very smart too ~ RHF |
Cleaning out QEX magazines
In Scott
wrote: So, the ARRL is donating how much to political parties? The NRA has donated a bit over $18 million from 1989-2010. They were number 39 of the top 140 donors... The NRA has spun off an entire "separate" organization to do that, since the tax status of the basic organization doesn't allow it. The NRA also has about 4 million members; how many does ARRL have? http://www.nraila.org/ http://www.arrl.org/political-campaigns-and-the-arrl -- Bert Hyman W0RSB St. Paul, MN |
Why-Not ? : A "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund !
On Apr 16, 4:23*pm, RHF wrote:
On Apr 16, 3:46*pm, MTV wrote: - BPL has NOT "gone through." - - The ARRL DOES lobby in D.C. - Chwat & Co., Alexandria,VA - Plus direct HQ access to the FCC commissioners and staff. - - Your contributions are regularly requested, plus the most effective, - personal letters to our representatives. - - "non-profit" organizations do have restrictions on how money is spent, - e.g. no money to political campaigns, etc. - -http://www.arrl.org/regulatory-advocacy - - W5MTV W5MTV --- Hence "Look At {Better} Success" : Look at the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) :http://www.nrapvf.org/ The Are More and Bigger Challenges To Amateur Radio Then Just BPL : Such As Lose of RF Spectrum and Radio Bands.http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Hambands_color.pdf Simple Fact : With just 155,000 Members the ARRL is a relatively 'small' Constituency Group for anyone Congressman or Senator; and the US Congress as a whole; as contrasted to : * NRA ~ 4 Million Members [25X ARRL] * AARP ~ 40 Million Members [250X ARRL] Both of Which Claim To Be "Non-Profit" Organizations too... Again I Simply Posse The Question : Why-Not ? : A "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...807e1c0a01df1c *. *. On 4/16/2011 4:17 PM, RHF wrote: Look At Success : Look at the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) :http://www.nrapvf.org/ On Apr 15, 8:13 pm, *wrote: On 4-16-2011 00:31, Joe from Kokomo wrote: On 4/15/2011 6:41 PM, Scott wrote: Why? If every ham just wrote to their elected officials (for the cost of a stamp, or free by email), they would get the message just as well, if not better than, if they got 1 letter or a personal visit from the ARRL "lobbyist". Just my personal opinion, but I believe it is quite naive to think that if "every ham just wrote". Extremely unlikely...and oh, if not the ARRL, just who do you think is going to tell the hams to write and what to write about? Well, if hams won't take any initiative to write their Congressmen, then they probably don't give two craps enough to really care if we lose bandwidth. *All proposed NPRMs are published in the Federal Register and a simple search on their website for "FCC" will list them.http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/multidb.cgi Finally, it's quite naive to think that a national lobbying organization is not helpful -- just look at how successful the NRA is. So, the ARRL is donating how much to political parties? The NRA has donated a bit over $18 million from 1989-2010. *They were number 39 of the top 140 donors... 39 National Rifle Assn *$18,209,746 * * 17%(To Dems) * *82% (To Repubs) THAT'S probably why they are so successful. *Money talks, BS Walks.... http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php Didn't see the ARRL in the top 140. *Searched and didn't find them on the list at all. *#140 donated about $4.7 million over the same period. If the ARRL is so successful at lobbying, why did BPL go through even though they begged members to send more money to fight against it and lost the battle anyway? *Remember when the 13cm band used to be 2300-2450 MHz? *I do. *Remember when the 1.25M band used to be 220-225 MHz. *I do. *Remember when a lot of foreign countries had no code requirement for HF and we did? *I do. I'm not saying they aren't worth something, but why won't they give a guy a choice about which magazine he wants with his membership? Probably because QEX doesn't have so many ads as QST and they want the advertisers to get more bang for their buck (understandably, since they can charge more for ad space based on the number of magazine "subscribers") *IF* The ARRL want to have a real "Voice" at the Table in Congress and at the FCC :Then they have to be as 'smart' as the other "Players" in the Washington, DC Political 'Action' {Power} Game. Look At Success : Look at the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) :http://www.nrapvf.org/ You have and build your 'basic' ARRL Membership -roughly- 155,000 ARRL Members http://www.arrl.org/membership + Plus you have to have and build a supporting {Independent} "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund The ARRL has enough Members who are Lawyers set-up and make a "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund Do-Able and Work-Able -so- Just Do It ! Encourage Each ARRL Member to make a Matching {Voluntary} Contribution to the "Voice of Amateur Radio" [VoAR] PAC Fund -so- Take the 155,000 ARRL Members -by- $5 = $775,000 VoAR-PAC Fund : Figure about 20% for a Part-Time Lobbyist and leaves around $1000 in 'political' contributions per Member of Congress -by- $10 = $1,555,000 VoAR-PAC Fund *: Figure about 20% for a Part-Time Lobbyist and leaves around $2000 in 'political' contributions per Member of Congress ? Is Your Amateur [Ham] Radio "Hobby" Worth an Extra $5 to $10 per Year To You For A Seat At The Table of Congress and the FCC in Washington, DC ? Promote the "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund to the American Public and the Corporate World Git Them To Become Sponsors and Underwriters of the "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund too. Then Use the "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund Money to Lobby Congress and the FCC to ensure Fairness and Equal Treatment for Amateur Radio in Congress and Before the FCC. It's All Legal& *It's All Good - it's very smart too ~ RHF * . REALITY CHECK : WITH ONLY 155,000 MEMBERS THE ARRL HAS THREE GOALS : 1st : Build Membership and Increase the Number of Hams -or-lose-spectrum-and-vanish-from-the-air-waves- 2nd : Build Membership and Increase the Number of Hams -or-lose-spectrum-and-vanish-from-the-air-waves- 3rd : Build Membership and Increase the Number of Hams -or-lose-spectrum-and-vanish-from-the-air-waves- * . * . What hams need are wealthy, high-profile members - like the NRA and AARP. They may be small, but fascinating people, even if they are stooges, can yield results. |
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On 04/16/2011 02:17 PM, RHF wrote:
*IF* The ARRL want to have a real "Voice" at the Table in Congress and at the FCC :Then they have to be as 'smart' as the other "Players" in the Washington, DC Political 'Action' {Power} Game. Look At Success : Look at the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) : http://www.nrapvf.org/ |
Think of ham radio as a well regulated electronic militia
On 04/16/2011 04:23 PM, RHF wrote:
W5MTV --- Hence "Look At {Better} Success" : Look at the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) : http://www.nrapvf.org/ The Are More and Bigger Challenges To Amateur Radio Then Just BPL : Such As Lose of RF Spectrum and Radio Bands. http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Hambands_color.pdf .. |
Why-Not ? : A "Voice of Amateur Radio" PAC Fund !
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:17:35 -0700, RHF wrote:
*IF* The ARRL want to have a real "Voice" at the Table in Congress and at the FCC :Then they have to be as 'smart' as the other "Players" in the Washington, DC Political 'Action' {Power} Game. Look At Success : Look at the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) : http://www.nrapvf.org/ Government for sale to the highest bidder?... typical stupid teabagger Teabagging republicans would sell their mother's SS to the rich while living under a bridge burning the corpses of the children they fought so hard not to abort and brag to each other about their perceived superior intellect on their new 400Mhz cellphones. |
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