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Ron[_11_] May 29th 11 04:25 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On May 29, 2:46*am, John Smith wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! *IT'S REAL!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...

Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!

I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)

Regards,
JS

..
..
John....John........JOHN!

The horse is dead.

John Smith[_6_] May 29th 11 04:28 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:
On May 29, 2:46 am, John wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! IT'S REAL!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...

Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!

I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)

Regards,
JS

.
.
John....John........JOHN!

The horse is dead.


The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for the
fraudulent 9 layered document!

Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your crime
.... now, some people might not thing it is counterfeiting if the
president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!

Regards,
JS


John Smith[_6_] May 29th 11 04:36 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:
On May 29, 2:46 am, John wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! IT'S REAL!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...

Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!

I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)

Regards,
JS

.
.
John....John........JOHN!

The horse is dead.


The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for the
fraudulent 9 layered document!

Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your crime
.... now, some people might not think it is counterfeiting, if the
president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!

Regards,
JS


Ron[_11_] May 29th 11 04:36 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On May 29, 10:28*am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:









On May 29, 2:46 am, John *wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! *IT'S REAL!"


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-....


Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!


I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)


Regards,
JS

.
.
John....John........JOHN!


The horse is dead.


The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for the
fraudulent 9 layered document!

Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your crime
... now, some people might not thing it is counterfeiting if the
president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!

Regards,
JS

..
..
John I've asked you before, but you don't answer. How did two
Hawaiian newspapers get the Obama birth announcement?
Why didn't John McCain's staff find any discrepancies? Why did a
Republican governor of Hawaii affirm the US birth? Why did Congress
pass a resolution proclaiming Hawaii as Obama's birthplace?

Huh?

Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets[_2_] May 30th 11 01:34 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 


"Gray Ghost" wrote in message
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"Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets" wrote in
:



"Gray Ghost" wrote in message
. 97.142...

"Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets" wrote in
:



"Gray Ghost" wrote in message
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Ron wrote in news:d5942bd7-8b41-43ba-b5a9-
:

On May 29, 10:28 am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:









On May 29, 2:46 am, John wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! IT'S REAL!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...t-obamas-long-
form-..
.

Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it

is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!

I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of

the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)

Regards,
JS
.
.
John....John........JOHN!

The horse is dead.

The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for the
fraudulent 9 layered document!

Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your crime
... now, some people might not thing it is counterfeiting if the
president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!

Regards,
JS
.
.
John I've asked you before, but you don't answer. How did two
Hawaiian newspapers get the Obama birth announcement?
Why didn't John McCain's staff find any discrepancies? Why did a
Republican governor of Hawaii affirm the US birth? Why did Congress
pass a resolution proclaiming Hawaii as Obama's birthplace?

Huh?


Um, Abercrombie saud back not to long ago that they couldn't find the
original. Then auddenly SHAZAAM!! Obama has a fresh copy of a document

(not
stamped of emossed BTW) that the governor could not find.


Yeah, I find that suspicious. But then I have functioning brain cells
and don't depend on lies and deception as a viable political strategy.


--
Herman Cain for President! http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daISg1Hc0ps




And? Your point is what? Go ahead and snuff your seed. You'll be doing
society a favor.


That is who you support for president? Obama wouldn't even need to
campaign. All he'd need to do is run that awful racist commercial from
Cain. Damn that's bad.



You "think" that commercial is racist? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! 2012 is going to
be easier than I thought. I'm pretty sure america is gonna be fed up with
the "racist" line of bull****.


Jugears is a failure, irrespective of the amount of melatonin he has.


You don't see racism. It uses just about every negative black stereotype
there is. That awful voiceover guy is supposed to be portraying an African
American. They couldn't find a real black guy to deliver the awful lines.
What's worse is that it's Herman that delivers the worse of it.



SaPeIsMa May 30th 11 03:11 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
"Ron" wrote in message
...
On May 29, 12:05 pm, John Smith wrote:
On 5/29/2011 9:27 AM, Ron wrote:









On May 29, 10:41 am, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:36 AM, Ron wrote:


On May 29, 10:28 am, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:


On May 29, 2:46 am, John wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! IT'S REAL!"


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...


Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it
is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!


I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of
the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)


Regards,
JS
.
.
John....John........JOHN!


The horse is dead.


The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for the
fraudulent 9 layered document!


Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your crime
... now, some people might not thing it is counterfeiting if the
president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!


Regards,
JS
.
.
John I've asked you before, but you don't answer. How did two
Hawaiian newspapers get the Obama birth announcement?
Why didn't John McCain's staff find any discrepancies? Why did a
Republican governor of Hawaii affirm the US birth? Why did Congress
pass a resolution proclaiming Hawaii as Obama's birthplace?


Huh?


Brain dead mccain couldn't find the prize in a cracker jack box, why no
one voted for him ...


First, Ann and obama senior were never married, and never lived
together
in Hawaii. (There is no marriage certificate for obama sr and Ann.)


Second, the address associated with the announcement is the
grandparents.


... and ...


http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104678


Regards,
JS

.
.
Brain dead mccain couldn't find the prize in a cracker jack box,
why no one voted for him .


McCain didn't do the investigation. It was conducted by members of
his staff.


First, Ann and obama senior were never married, and never lived
together in Hawaii


Even if true, how does that disprove Hawaii as Obama's place of birth?


Second, the address associated with the announcement is the
grandparents.


Once again, the same question. Even if true, how does that disprove
the place of birth?


You are the one claiming that an announcement in a newspaper is some
type of legal and binding document which would risk prosecution, fine or
punishment if "doctored."

I am the one pointing out that an announcement in a newspaper means
nothing ...

Regards,
JS

..
..
# No, no, John-boy. I asked you to explain how the birth announcements
# were printed in two newspapers.
#
# How did Obama's mom do it, and show us proof that she did do it that
# way.


Since YOU are the one claiming it's some evidence, you first have to
demonstrate HOW that evidence came to be.
Can you demonstrate how Obama's mom had the announcements placed ?
We'll wait for YOUR evidence that she "did do it that way"..




John Smith[_7_] May 30th 11 04:21 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/30/2011 7:11 AM, SaPeIsMa wrote:

...
Since YOU are the one claiming it's some evidence, you first have to
demonstrate HOW that evidence came to be.
Can you demonstrate how Obama's mom had the announcements placed ?
We'll wait for YOUR evidence that she "did do it that way"..


That might be rather hard for you to prove, since the grandparents
address is used one would suspect it was the grandparents of Anns'.

Regards,
JS


John Smith[_7_] May 30th 11 04:23 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/30/2011 5:34 AM, Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets wrote:

...
You don't see racism. It uses just about every negative black stereotype
there is. That awful voiceover guy is supposed to be portraying an
African American. They couldn't find a real black guy to deliver the
awful lines. What's worse is that it's Herman that delivers the worse of
it.



**** on "racism."

If you are so ashamed of your race that you get upset every time someone
tells you, you are a negro, **** ON YA'!

Gesus, talk about stoopid people!

Regards,
JS

BDK[_7_] May 30th 11 04:42 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
In article , says...

On 5/30/2011 12:42 AM, Ron wrote:
On May 29, 12:05 pm, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 9:27 AM, Ron wrote:









On May 29, 10:41 am, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:36 AM, Ron wrote:

On May 29, 10:28 am, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:

On May 29, 2:46 am, John wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! IT'S REAL!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...

Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!

I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)

Regards,
JS
.
.
John....John........JOHN!

The horse is dead.

The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for the
fraudulent 9 layered document!

Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your crime
... now, some people might not thing it is counterfeiting if the
president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!

Regards,
JS
.
.
John I've asked you before, but you don't answer. How did two
Hawaiian newspapers get the Obama birth announcement?
Why didn't John McCain's staff find any discrepancies? Why did a
Republican governor of Hawaii affirm the US birth? Why did Congress
pass a resolution proclaiming Hawaii as Obama's birthplace?

Huh?

Brain dead mccain couldn't find the prize in a cracker jack box, why no
one voted for him ...

First, Ann and obama senior were never married, and never lived together
in Hawaii. (There is no marriage certificate for obama sr and Ann.)

Second, the address associated with the announcement is the grandparents.

... and ...

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104678

Regards,
JS
.
.
Brain dead mccain couldn't find the prize in a cracker jack box,
why no one voted for him .

McCain didn't do the investigation. It was conducted by members of
his staff.

First, Ann and obama senior were never married, and never lived
together in Hawaii

Even if true, how does that disprove Hawaii as Obama's place of birth?

Second, the address associated with the announcement is the
grandparents.

Once again, the same question. Even if true, how does that disprove
the place of birth?

You are the one claiming that an announcement in a newspaper is some
type of legal and binding document which would risk prosecution, fine or
punishment if "doctored."

I am the one pointing out that an announcement in a newspaper means
nothing ...

Regards,
JS

.
.
No, no, John-boy. I asked you to explain how the birth announcements
were printed in two newspapers.

How did Obama's mom do it, and show us proof that she did do it that
way.


Nothing about the newspaper is worthy of any consideration, not by sane
men, and certainly not by a court of law.

"Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he
was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the
grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was
born elsewhere."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...&pageId=252833

If you are attempting to prove something with an announcement in a
newspapers, from the 1960's, it is a sign you have and will lose
whatever arguments you are attempting ...

Why would you not argue your case with valid documents, evidence and proofs?

You really need something concrete ... I don't think anyone is going to
give much validity to newspapers, one way or another ...

Regards,
JS


Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

John Smith[_7_] May 30th 11 04:51 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/30/2011 8:42 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.


There are NO RECORDS FROM THE HOSPITAL proving that obama was born at
either one ...

The announcements came from the grandparents ...

Regards,
JS

David Hartung[_4_] May 30th 11 04:56 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 05/30/2011 10:51 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 8:42 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.


There are NO RECORDS FROM THE HOSPITAL proving that obama was born at
either one ...

The announcements came from the grandparents ...

Regards,
JS


For the claim that Obama was born outside the USA to have any validity,
you would have to show that hos mother had been outside the USA the day
he was born. Thus far, that hasn't been done.

IOW, stop beating this dead horse and instead focus on Obama's
demonstrated incompetence.

John Smith[_7_] May 30th 11 05:02 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/30/2011 8:56 AM, David Hartung wrote:

...
For the claim that Obama was born outside the USA to have any validity,
you would have to show that hos mother had been outside the USA the day
he was born. Thus far, that hasn't been done.

IOW, stop beating this dead horse and instead focus on Obama's
demonstrated incompetence.


We shouldn't have to prove anything.

To get the job of president, he was supposed to prove his eligibility,
so far, he has NOT done that.

He needs to come up with a valid birth certificate which is not forged,
and heads need to roll of those who allowed him illegal entry to the
public servant office.

.... end of story ...

Regards,
JS

BDK[_7_] May 30th 11 05:55 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
In article , says...

On 5/30/2011 8:42 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.


There are NO RECORDS FROM THE HOSPITAL proving that obama was born at
either one ...

The announcements came from the grandparents ...

Regards,
JS


BWHAHAHAHA! You really need to stop reading the birther kookpages. But
if you got sane all of a sudden, you wouldn't be Johnny KooK anymore,
and that wouldn't be any fun.

Please keep the insanity coming. It's hilarious.

--
BDK- Top of the government shill heap for over 10 years running!

David Hartung[_4_] May 30th 11 06:10 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 05/30/2011 11:02 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 8:56 AM, David Hartung wrote:

...
For the claim that Obama was born outside the USA to have any validity,
you would have to show that hos mother had been outside the USA the day
he was born. Thus far, that hasn't been done.

IOW, stop beating this dead horse and instead focus on Obama's
demonstrated incompetence.


We shouldn't have to prove anything.

To get the job of president, he was supposed to prove his eligibility,
so far, he has NOT done that.

He needs to come up with a valid birth certificate which is not forged,
and heads need to roll of those who allowed him illegal entry to the
public servant office.


What statute requires this?

Gray Ghost May 30th 11 06:39 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
"Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets" wrote in
:



"Gray Ghost" wrote in message
7.142...

"Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets" wrote in
:



"Gray Ghost" wrote in message
. 97.142...

"Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets" wrote in
:



"Gray Ghost" wrote in message
. 97.142...

Ron wrote in news:d5942bd7-8b41-43ba-b5a9-
:

On May 29, 10:28 am, John Smith wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:









On May 29, 2:46 am, John wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! IT'S REAL!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...t-obamas-long-
form-..
.

Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say, at it

is
just the same old nine-layered fraud!

I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority of

the
people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)

Regards,
JS
.
.
John....John........JOHN!

The horse is dead.

The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for the
fraudulent 9 layered document!

Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your crime
... now, some people might not thing it is counterfeiting if the
president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!

Regards,
JS
.
.
John I've asked you before, but you don't answer. How did two
Hawaiian newspapers get the Obama birth announcement?
Why didn't John McCain's staff find any discrepancies? Why did a
Republican governor of Hawaii affirm the US birth? Why did Congress
pass a resolution proclaiming Hawaii as Obama's birthplace?

Huh?


Um, Abercrombie saud back not to long ago that they couldn't find the
original. Then auddenly SHAZAAM!! Obama has a fresh copy of a document

(not
stamped of emossed BTW) that the governor could not find.

Yeah, I find that suspicious. But then I have functioning brain cells
and don't depend on lies and deception as a viable political strategy.

--
Herman Cain for President! http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daISg1Hc0ps




And? Your point is what? Go ahead and snuff your seed. You'll be doing
society a favor.


That is who you support for president? Obama wouldn't even need to
campaign. All he'd need to do is run that awful racist commercial from
Cain. Damn that's bad.



You "think" that commercial is racist? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! 2012 is going to
be easier than I thought. I'm pretty sure america is gonna be fed up with
the "racist" line of bull****.


Jugears is a failure, irrespective of the amount of melatonin he has.


You don't see racism. It uses just about every negative black stereotype
there is. That awful voiceover guy is supposed to be portraying an

African
American. They couldn't find a real black guy to deliver the awful lines.
What's worse is that it's Herman that delivers the worse of it.




Really, I thought he sounded white.

But why are discussing a nonexistent racial issue instead of the fact that
President JugEars and the Keystone Congress DIDN'T pass a budget for
FY2011?

I mean are they not Constitutinally mandated to do so?

And given the fiscal problems facing the country doesn't that strike you as
irresponsible beyond words?

Just because your token darkie is a failure doesn't mean all African
Americans are.

--
Herman Cain for President! http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had as much
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much
competence?

Gray Ghost May 30th 11 06:40 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
John Smith wrote in :

On 5/30/2011 5:34 AM, Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets wrote:

...
You don't see racism. It uses just about every negative black stereotype
there is. That awful voiceover guy is supposed to be portraying an
African American. They couldn't find a real black guy to deliver the
awful lines. What's worse is that it's Herman that delivers the worse of
it.



**** on "racism."

If you are so ashamed of your race that you get upset every time someone
tells you, you are a negro, **** ON YA'!

Gesus, talk about stoopid people!

Regards,
JS


You really are a cockroach.

Do us all a favor and drink and drive.

--
Herman Cain for President! http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had as much
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much
competence?

John Smith[_7_] May 30th 11 06:55 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/30/2011 10:40 AM, Gray Ghost wrote:
John wrote in :

On 5/30/2011 5:34 AM, Ronnie Raygun And The Rayonets wrote:

...
You don't see racism. It uses just about every negative black stereotype
there is. That awful voiceover guy is supposed to be portraying an
African American. They couldn't find a real black guy to deliver the
awful lines. What's worse is that it's Herman that delivers the worse of
it.



**** on "racism."

If you are so ashamed of your race that you get upset every time someone
tells you, you are a negro, **** ON YA'!

Gesus, talk about stoopid people!

Regards,
JS


You really are a cockroach.

Do us all a favor and drink and drive.


Hey, if someone convinced me that I was stuck where I am because of my
race, that would be on me.

If every time someone called me "cracker", "white boy", "honky",
"caucasian", etc., that would be my mental problem, NOT theirs!

Just sayin' the truth ... be proud of your race, or be ashamed, but
don't get angry at others for your decision!

Now, what is YOUR PROBLEM?

Regards,
JS

Gray Ghost May 30th 11 07:07 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
BDK wrote in
:

In article , says...

On 5/30/2011 12:42 AM, Ron wrote:
On May 29, 12:05 pm, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 9:27 AM, Ron wrote:









On May 29, 10:41 am, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:36 AM, Ron wrote:

On May 29, 10:28 am, John wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:25 AM, Ron wrote:

On May 29, 2:46 am, John
wrote:
The whitehouse goes about screaming, "IT'S REAL! IT'S REAL!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...nt-obamas-long
-form-...

Then you look at what the experts, who have examined it say,
at it is just the same old nine-layered fraud!

I guess this is all they have left, the hope that the majority
of the people are too stupid to realize the crime(s.)

Regards,
JS
.
.
John....John........JOHN!

The horse is dead.

The horse will be dead when obama stands in court to answer for
the fraudulent 9 layered document!

Kinda like counterfeiting, it ain't over until you pay for your
crime ... now, some people might not thing it is counterfeiting
if the president does it (what nixon said), BUT IT IS!

Regards,
JS
.
.
John I've asked you before, but you don't answer. How did two
Hawaiian newspapers get the Obama birth announcement?
Why didn't John McCain's staff find any discrepancies? Why did a
Republican governor of Hawaii affirm the US birth? Why did
Congress pass a resolution proclaiming Hawaii as Obama's
birthplace?

Huh?

Brain dead mccain couldn't find the prize in a cracker jack box,
why no one voted for him ...

First, Ann and obama senior were never married, and never lived
together in Hawaii. (There is no marriage certificate for obama sr
and Ann.)

Second, the address associated with the announcement is the
grandparents.

... and ...

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=104678

Regards,
JS
.
.
Brain dead mccain couldn't find the prize in a cracker jack
box, why no one voted for him .

McCain didn't do the investigation. It was conducted by members of
his staff.

First, Ann and obama senior were never married, and never
lived together in Hawaii

Even if true, how does that disprove Hawaii as Obama's place of
birth?

Second, the address associated with the announcement is the
grandparents.

Once again, the same question. Even if true, how does that
disprove the place of birth?

You are the one claiming that an announcement in a newspaper is some
type of legal and binding document which would risk prosecution,
fine or punishment if "doctored."

I am the one pointing out that an announcement in a newspaper means
nothing ...

Regards,
JS
.
.
No, no, John-boy. I asked you to explain how the birth announcements
were printed in two newspapers.

How did Obama's mom do it, and show us proof that she did do it that
way.


Nothing about the newspaper is worthy of any consideration, not by sane
men, and certainly not by a court of law.

"Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove
he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the
grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was
born elsewhere."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE...&pageId=252833

If you are attempting to prove something with an announcement in a
newspapers, from the 1960's, it is a sign you have and will lose
whatever arguments you are attempting ...

Why would you not argue your case with valid documents, evidence and
proofs?

You really need something concrete ... I don't think anyone is going to
give much validity to newspapers, one way or another ...

Regards,
JS


Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.


And no one has proved those photocopied newspaper images are real yet
either.

The word is "Provenance". Have someone literate look it up for you.

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Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had as much
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competence?

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] May 30th 11 07:17 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/30/2011 11:35 AM, John Smith wrote:

It was the grandparents address used in the birth
announcements ...


"It was the grandparents address used in the birth announcements ..."

So she used her grandparents address. You were expecting an 18 year old
to have her own house?

Another strikeout for you, Johnny Kooktard!

SaPeIsMa May 30th 11 10:14 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
"David Hartung" wrote in message
...
On 05/30/2011 10:51 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 8:42 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.


There are NO RECORDS FROM THE HOSPITAL proving that obama was born at
either one ...

The announcements came from the grandparents ...

Regards,
JS


For the claim that Obama was born outside the USA to have any validity,
you would have to show that hos mother had been outside the USA the day he
was born. Thus far, that hasn't been done.

IOW, stop beating this dead horse and instead focus on Obama's
demonstrated incompetence.




No one has demonstrated where his mother was ANYWHERE at the time
Why don't you provide evidence to suggest the mother was in Hawaii.
An birth notices in newspapers are not good enough, since anyone can buy
such birth notices for a few bucks.


SaPeIsMa May 30th 11 10:17 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...
On 5/30/2011 11:35 AM, John Smith wrote:

It was the grandparents address used in the birth
announcements ...


"It was the grandparents address used in the birth announcements ..."

So she used her grandparents address. You were expecting an 18 year old to
have her own house?

Another strikeout for you, Johnny Kooktard!



But that is not any evidence that she actually LIVED at her parent's house
at the time.



[email protected] May 30th 11 10:25 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
Damn politicians!!!, DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!! IF THEIR LIPS ARE MOVING,
THEY ARE LIEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin


John Smith[_7_] May 30th 11 11:23 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 5/30/2011 2:25 PM, wrote:
Damn politicians!!!, DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!! IF THEIR LIPS ARE MOVING,
THEY ARE LIEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cuhulin


Yep!

But then, you can say the same about republicrats and be just as correct ...

Regards,
JS


David Hartung[_4_] May 30th 11 11:51 PM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
On 05/30/2011 04:14 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
"David Hartung" wrote in message
...
On 05/30/2011 10:51 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 8:42 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how
clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.


There are NO RECORDS FROM THE HOSPITAL proving that obama was born at
either one ...

The announcements came from the grandparents ...

Regards,
JS


For the claim that Obama was born outside the USA to have any
validity, you would have to show that hos mother had been outside the
USA the day he was born. Thus far, that hasn't been done.

IOW, stop beating this dead horse and instead focus on Obama's
demonstrated incompetence.




No one has demonstrated where his mother was ANYWHERE at the time
Why don't you provide evidence to suggest the mother was in Hawaii.
An birth notices in newspapers are not good enough, since anyone can buy
such birth notices for a few bucks.


You just do not get it. I have no need to prove anything. It is you who
is trying to claim the president has lied about this.


SaPeIsMa May 31st 11 12:07 AM

Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
"David Hartung" wrote in message
...
On 05/30/2011 04:14 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
"David Hartung" wrote in message
...
On 05/30/2011 10:51 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 5/30/2011 8:42 AM, BDK wrote:

...
Every time you post something about the BC thing, you prove how
clueless
you are. Youreally don't understand how anything really works, do you,
Johnny KooK?

The birth announcements come from the hospital, you idiot.


There are NO RECORDS FROM THE HOSPITAL proving that obama was born at
either one ...

The announcements came from the grandparents ...

Regards,
JS

For the claim that Obama was born outside the USA to have any
validity, you would have to show that hos mother had been outside the
USA the day he was born. Thus far, that hasn't been done.

IOW, stop beating this dead horse and instead focus on Obama's
demonstrated incompetence.




No one has demonstrated where his mother was ANYWHERE at the time
Why don't you provide evidence to suggest the mother was in Hawaii.
An birth notices in newspapers are not good enough, since anyone can buy
such birth notices for a few bucks.


You just do not get it. I have no need to prove anything. It is you who is
trying to claim the president has lied about this.




Except for the fact that I have made NO CLAIMS about Obama's birth EVER, you
may have a point.
Too bad for you that I'm not bound by your projections.




pyotr filipivich May 31st 11 06:48 PM

Address of Record vs Address of Residence was Outrageous lies from the whitehouse!
 
[Default] Let the Record show that "SaPeIsMa"
on or about Mon, 30 May 2011 16:17:15 -0500 did write, type or
otherwise cause to appear in talk.politics.guns the following:
"Joe from Kokomo" wrote in message
...
On 5/30/2011 11:35 AM, John Smith wrote:

It was the grandparents address used in the birth
announcements ...


"It was the grandparents address used in the birth announcements ..."

So she used her grandparents address. You were expecting an 18 year old to
have her own house?

Another strikeout for you, Johnny Kooktard!



But that is not any evidence that she actually LIVED at her parent's house
at the time.


Fark, As far as the University knew, I lived in Salem (Or) for
sixteen years after I graduated. Never mind that I was physically in
other towns or states). That was the address of record, a stable
address I could use.


tschus
pyotr


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