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dxAce June 7th 11 10:47 AM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts

The sun is setting on Voice of America's shortwave radio service,
heard worldwide in dozens of languages for 70 years.

A strategic technology plan prepared by the Broadcasting Board of
Governors (BBG), the federal agency responsible for Voice of America,
Alhurra, Radio Free Asia and other international stations, concludes
that it should end many shortwave broadcasts in favor of "more
effective" media such as internet radio.

Full story at :
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/06...erica-ope.html


---
Alokesh Gupta,VU3BSE
New Delhi
(via HCDX)
====================

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Burr[_2_] June 7th 11 12:23 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
Thanks Steve!
--
Burr
From The Gardens
Roses & Orchids
Guiguinto, Bulacan. Philippines
http://www.guiguinto.gov.ph/
And Red Mountain, Ca. USA
I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE



kevin. m. June 7th 11 02:55 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
Even if this were true, as it is always said, "follow the money trail."
Alleged "organizations" and governmental departments are now constantly
trying to steer public thought in the direction they want it to go. The
reality is that there are
new short wave stations sprouting up all the time. However, there are
special interest groups that deeply want to convince the brain-dead to
abandon that which is already paid for to buy the newest gadgets. The simple
fact is that worldwide there are millions of short wave listeners who are
under 25, over 25 and it remains viable and useful. Painting the whole world
by what
some industrialized, capitalistic countries are doing is absurd. The world
is a big place but our arrogance often convinces us that we're the only ones
on the righteous path.

To believe anything else is just "drinking the Kool Aid" and convincing
yourself that the only alternative is to rush to Best Buy and buy the newest
thing that will enable the government to easily monitor what you're
listening to and censor that as well is what they want.

No, naysayers...short wave radio will be around for a long time. There are
too many honest governments and non-governmental entities that do not want
to give up the ability to reach people without borders, firewalls, scanning
software, search software and all the other figments of oppression that we
once were proud of Radio Free Europe (we thought) for dissolving. Mobility
and
convenience of terrestrial radio is superior over anything offered by "hot
spots",
waiting on buffering and clunky non-ergonomic devices like computers or
handheld
crap with buttons the size of most politician's brains.

As for the under-25s...what boneheads. You're always a bonehead when your
under 25 which is why they pitch to this group because kids will rush out
and
buy anything. It's not until your older than 25 that you figure out it's all
a con game by the fat titted old men who run everything that they're shaking
you down for as much money as they can.


kevin. m. June 7th 11 02:58 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 


Even if this were true, as it is always said, "follow the money trail."
Alleged "organizations" and governmental departments are now constantly
trying to steer public thought in the direction they want it to go. The
reality is that there are
new short wave stations sprouting up all the time. However, there are
special interest groups that deeply want to convince the brain-dead to
abandon that which is already paid for to buy the newest gadgets. The simple
fact is that worldwide there are millions of short wave listeners who are
under 25, over 25 and it remains viable and useful. Painting the whole world
by what
some industrialized, capitalistic countries are doing is absurd. The world
is a big place but our arrogance often convinces us that we're the only ones
on the righteous path.

To believe anything else is just "drinking the Kool Aid" and convincing
yourself that the only alternative is to rush to Best Buy and buy the newest
thing that will enable the government to easily monitor what you're
listening to and censor that as well is what they want.

No, naysayers...short wave radio will be around for a long time. There are
too many honest governments and non-governmental entities that do not want
to give up the ability to reach people without borders, firewalls, scanning
software, search software and all the other figments of oppression that we
once were proud of Radio Free Europe (we thought) for dissolving. Mobility
and
convenience of terrestrial radio is superior over anything offered by "hot
spots",
waiting on buffering and clunky non-ergonomic devices like computers or
handheld
crap with buttons the size of most politician's brains.

As for the under-25s...what boneheads. You're always a bonehead when your
under 25 which is why they pitch to this group because kids will rush out
and
buy anything. It's not until your older than 25 that you figure out it's all
a con game by the fat titted old men who run everything that they're shaking
you down for as much money as they can.

Lastly, the Voice of America ceased being of any interest to listeners many
years ago
when it adopted its new "Board of Governors" mission.


D Peter Maus[_2_] June 7th 11 03:25 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radiobroadcasts
 
On 6/7/11 04:47 , dxAce wrote:
Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts

The sun is setting on Voice of America's shortwave radio service,
heard worldwide in dozens of languages for 70 years.

A strategic technology plan prepared by the Broadcasting Board of
Governors (BBG), the federal agency responsible for Voice of America,
Alhurra, Radio Free Asia and other international stations, concludes
that it should end many shortwave broadcasts in favor of "more
effective" media such as internet radio.

Full story at :
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/06...erica-ope.html


---
Alokesh Gupta,VU3BSE
New Delhi
(via HCDX)
====================

dxAce
Michigan
USA




Same old song we heard with BBC.

Isn't anymore true now than it was then.

But, remember, these broadcasts are both political in origin and often
propagandist in nature.

Given the current tone, both in Washington and worldwide, that they
would be ending the most direct, and most portable, methods of
dissemination is hardly a surprise.




Wimpie[_2_] June 7th 11 04:29 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
On 7 jun, 11:47, dxAce wrote:
Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts

The sun is setting on Voice of America's shortwave radio service,
heard worldwide in dozens of languages for 70 years.

A strategic technology plan prepared by the Broadcasting Board of
Governors (BBG), the federal agency responsible for Voice of America,
Alhurra, Radio Free Asia and other international stations, concludes
that it should end many shortwave broadcasts in favor of "more
effective" media such as internet radio.

Full story at :
*http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/06...erica-ope.html

---
Alokesh Gupta,VU3BSE
New Delhi
(via HCDX)
====================

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Hello dxAce

Radio Nederland Wereldomroep (Radio Netherlands World Service,
http://www.rnw.nl/english ) also has to deal with financial cuts.
They will "change focus".

According to the latest plans, this means they will virtually end
transmissions in Dutch, but continue transmissions to areas where
freedom of press isn't in the dictionary.

Link to the official announcement
http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/ra...-changes-focus

With kind regards,



Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl



[email protected] June 7th 11 05:23 PM

Voice of America operator plans"sunset" for shortwave radio br...
 
And in it's place will be, Commie Ministry of Propaganda.
cuhulin


RHF June 7th 11 05:44 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
On Jun 7, 7:25*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
On 6/7/11 04:47 , dxAce wrote:









Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts


The sun is setting on Voice of America's shortwave radio service,
heard worldwide in dozens of languages for 70 years.


A strategic technology plan prepared by the Broadcasting Board of
Governors (BBG), the federal agency responsible for Voice of America,
Alhurra, Radio Free Asia and other international stations, concludes
that it should end many shortwave broadcasts in favor of "more
effective" media such as internet radio.


Full story at :
*http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/06...erica-ope.html


---
Alokesh Gupta,VU3BSE
New Delhi
(via HCDX)
====================


dxAce
Michigan
USA


- Same old song we heard with BBC.
-
- Isn't anymore true now than it was then.
-
- But, remember, these broadcasts are both
- political in origin and often propagandist
- in nature.

The BBC {Domestic} and BBC World Service
-selling-the-uk-britain-britannia-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture...United_Kingdom
Language Culture and -oops- No Borders !

bpnjensen June 7th 11 05:57 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
On Jun 7, 8:29*am, Wimpie wrote:
On 7 jun, 11:47, dxAce wrote:





Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts


The sun is setting on Voice of America's shortwave radio service,
heard worldwide in dozens of languages for 70 years.


A strategic technology plan prepared by the Broadcasting Board of
Governors (BBG), the federal agency responsible for Voice of America,
Alhurra, Radio Free Asia and other international stations, concludes
that it should end many shortwave broadcasts in favor of "more
effective" media such as internet radio.


Full story at :
*http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/06...erica-ope.html


---
Alokesh Gupta,VU3BSE
New Delhi
(via HCDX)
====================


dxAce
Michigan
USA


Hello dxAce

Radio Nederland Wereldomroep (Radio Netherlands World Service,http://www.rnw.nl/english) also has to deal with financial cuts.
They will "change focus".

According to the latest plans, this means they will virtually end
transmissions in Dutch, but continue transmissions to areas where
freedom of press isn't in the dictionary.

Link to the official announcementhttp://www.rnw.nl/english/article/radio-netherlands-worldwide-changes...

With kind regards,

Wim
PA3DJSwww.tetech.nl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


This would probably work. It will still get to the people for whom
freedom of speech and internet access are quite limited.

John Smith[_7_] June 8th 11 01:20 AM

Voice of America operator plans"sunset" for shortwave radio br...
 
On 6/7/2011 1:26 PM, RHF wrote:
On Jun 7, 12:19 pm, "kevin. m."buyembythesack(at)peoplepc(dot)com
wrote:
Anyone who uses Google is naive. Of course they've worked hard to work it
into our every day conversation..."blah blah blah just Google such and such"
like "Xerox" or having a "Coke." The fact of the matter is that our friends
at Google are a data mining organization BASED AT THE N S A in Washington.
When I hear guys like Alex Jones talking about "googling" I wonder how much
of a friend of the people really he is; surely he knows what Google is and
where they come from. Beware.


Google is just a Vehicle on "The Road" of
News, Information and Knowledge . . .

"The Road" Starts with your ISP :
YOUR "ISP" IS YOUR 'GATE KEEPER'

Everything You Do : Everywhere You Go
Goes Through Your ISP : Your ISP Knows
Everything About You and Can Control You.

Listen to an Internet Radio Station
Go-To 'Visit' a Web-Site
Open a/o Post an eMail
Turn Your Computer-On or Off
YOUR ISP KNOWS and Tracks It [.]
=isp=knowing=censorship=control=you=

-where-as- Buy an AM/FM/SW Radio and Just Listen
NO ISP REQUIRED = NO TRACKING = NO CONTROL

FREE Over-The-Air AM/FM/SW Radio
that's the freedom to be yourself ~ RHF
.
.


All your isp provides is a "telephone number" so you can call the web,
or other places, if you know about them and have the ID to access ...

Regards,
JS


--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

John Smith[_7_] June 8th 11 01:26 AM

Voice of America operator plans"sunset" for shortwave radio br...
 
On 6/7/2011 1:26 PM, RHF wrote:
On Jun 7, 12:19 pm, "kevin. m."buyembythesack(at)peoplepc(dot)com
wrote:
Anyone who uses Google is naive. Of course they've worked hard to work it
into our every day conversation..."blah blah blah just Google such and such"
like "Xerox" or having a "Coke." The fact of the matter is that our friends
at Google are a data mining organization BASED AT THE N S A in Washington.
When I hear guys like Alex Jones talking about "googling" I wonder how much
of a friend of the people really he is; surely he knows what Google is and
where they come from. Beware.


Google is just a Vehicle on "The Road" of
News, Information and Knowledge . . .

"The Road" Starts with your ISP :
YOUR "ISP" IS YOUR 'GATE KEEPER'

Everything You Do : Everywhere You Go
Goes Through Your ISP : Your ISP Knows
Everything About You and Can Control You.

Listen to an Internet Radio Station
Go-To 'Visit' a Web-Site
Open a/o Post an eMail
Turn Your Computer-On or Off
YOUR ISP KNOWS and Tracks It [.]
=isp=knowing=censorship=control=you=

-where-as- Buy an AM/FM/SW Radio and Just Listen
NO ISP REQUIRED = NO TRACKING = NO CONTROL

FREE Over-The-Air AM/FM/SW Radio
that's the freedom to be yourself ~ RHF
.
.


All your isp provides is a "telephone number" so you can call the web,
or other places, if you know about them and have the ID to access ...

Here is one example:

http://www2.home.com/

There is also a www3, and others ... you must use the proper protocol to
access the interesting sites, a modified http ... you will need someone
to provide proper info ...

Regards,
JS

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

[email protected] June 8th 11 02:07 AM

Voice of America operator plans"sunset" for shortwave radiobr...
 
WebTV is Proxy.
Not many years ago, somebody mistaked my WebTV addy for another WebTV
user in Hattiesburg,Mississippi.Hattiesburg is about 100 miles
South/Southeast of doggy's couch.
cuhulin


John Smith[_7_] June 8th 11 02:20 AM

Voice of America operator plans"sunset" for shortwave radio br...
 
On 6/7/2011 6:07 PM, wrote:
WebTV is Proxy.
Not many years ago, somebody mistaked my WebTV addy for another WebTV
user in Hattiesburg,Mississippi.Hattiesburg is about 100 miles
South/Southeast of doggy's couch.
cuhulin


Well, actually, the ww2, ww3, etc. are known as server mirrors, and what
they "are" or "look like" is completely up to the admin of the
domain(s.) These sub-domains can be as innocuous as simply backup or
load balancing ... but, easily used for "hiding data in plain sight."

What happened to you doesn't sound related ...

--

Regards,
JS
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it’s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government.” -- Patrick Henry

RHF June 8th 11 10:53 AM

Voice of America operator plans"sunset" for shortwave radio br...
 
On Jun 7, 5:20*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/7/2011 1:26 PM, RHF wrote:









On Jun 7, 12:19 pm, "kevin. m."buyembythesack(at)peoplepc(dot)com
wrote:
Anyone who uses Google is naive. Of course they've worked hard to work it
into our every day conversation..."blah blah blah just Google such and such"
like "Xerox" or having a "Coke." The fact of the matter is that our friends
at Google are a data mining organization BASED AT THE N S A in Washington.
When I hear guys like Alex Jones talking about "googling" I wonder how much
of a friend of the people really he is; surely he knows what Google is and
where they come from. Beware.


Google is just a Vehicle on "The Road" of
News, Information and Knowledge . . .


"The Road" Starts with your ISP :
YOUR "ISP" IS YOUR 'GATE KEEPER'


Everything You Do : Everywhere You Go
Goes Through Your ISP : Your ISP Knows
Everything About You and Can Control You.


Listen to an Internet Radio Station
Go-To 'Visit' a Web-Site
Open a/o Post an eMail
Turn Your Computer-On or Off
YOUR ISP KNOWS and Tracks It [.]
=isp=knowing=censorship=control=you=


-where-as- Buy an AM/FM/SW Radio and Just Listen
NO ISP REQUIRED = NO TRACKING = NO CONTROL


FREE Over-The-Air AM/FM/SW Radio
that's the freedom to be yourself ~ RHF
* .
* .


All your isp provides is a "telephone number" so you can call the web,
or other places, if you know about them and have the ID to access ...

Regards,
JS

--

Regards,
JS
The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain
the people, it s an instrument for the people to restrain the
government. -- Patrick Henry


Really... JS You Are So WebWise© !

dave June 9th 11 02:36 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radiobroadcasts
 
On 06/07/2011 04:39 AM, Brenda Ann wrote:


I can't believe they use this excuse to close down so many shortwave
services. There are three primary reasons why internet streaming radio
cannot replace shortwave services:

1) Target areas for shortwave services do not have access to internet.

2) Even if they DO have internet access, it's severely restricted by
governments.

3) The average person that cares at all to listen to them in the free,
developed world usually does so just because they CAN, without having to
pay for the privilege, or just for the excitement of listening to
something coming from half a world away without wires.

and, just for fun, this additional tidbit:

You STILL can't take streaming radio with you reliably.


The proof is in the numbers. No one is listening.

Wimpie[_2_] June 9th 11 04:33 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
On 9 jun, 15:36, dave wrote:
On 06/07/2011 04:39 AM, Brenda Ann wrote:





I can't believe they use this excuse to close down so many shortwave
services. There are three primary reasons why internet streaming radio
cannot replace shortwave services:


1) Target areas for shortwave services do not have access to internet.


2) Even if they DO have internet access, it's severely restricted by
governments.


3) The average person that cares at all to listen to them in the free,
developed world usually does so just because they CAN, without having to
pay for the privilege, or just for the excitement of listening to
something coming from half a world away without wires.


and, just for fun, this additional tidbit:


You STILL can't take streaming radio with you reliably.


The proof is in the numbers. No one is listening.


Hello Dave,

Maybe no one is listening whom they can sell some contract to make
money. There are also many listeners who don't tell they are listening
for several reasons.

I am therefore happy that "Radio Nederland Wereldomroep" (RN)
intentions are to continue their service in foreign languages.

With kind regards,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl

dave June 10th 11 02:06 PM

You have tempted fate, Wim
 
On 06/09/2011 08:33 AM, Wimpie wrote:
On 9 jun, 15:36, wrote:
On 06/07/2011 04:39 AM, Brenda Ann wrote:





I can't believe they use this excuse to close down so many shortwave
services. There are three primary reasons why internet streaming radio
cannot replace shortwave services:


1) Target areas for shortwave services do not have access to internet.


2) Even if they DO have internet access, it's severely restricted by
governments.


3) The average person that cares at all to listen to them in the free,
developed world usually does so just because they CAN, without having to
pay for the privilege, or just for the excitement of listening to
something coming from half a world away without wires.


and, just for fun, this additional tidbit:


You STILL can't take streaming radio with you reliably.


The proof is in the numbers. No one is listening.


Hello Dave,

Maybe no one is listening whom they can sell some contract to make
money. There are also many listeners who don't tell they are listening
for several reasons.

I am therefore happy that "Radio Nederland Wereldomroep" (RN)
intentions are to continue their service in foreign languages.

With kind regards,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl



dave June 10th 11 02:08 PM

I meant 80 cm (20 inch?) mini dish. They have 500 channels everywherealong the Equator
 
On 06/09/2011 08:56 PM, wrote:
On Jun 9, 11:33 am, wrote:
On 9 jun, 15:36, wrote:





On 06/07/2011 04:39 AM, Brenda Ann wrote:


I can't believe they use this excuse to close down so many shortwave
services. There are three primary reasons why internet streaming radio
cannot replace shortwave services:


1) Target areas for shortwave services do not have access to internet.


2) Even if they DO have internet access, it's severely restricted by
governments.


3) The average person that cares at all to listen to them in the free,
developed world usually does so just because they CAN, without having to
pay for the privilege, or just for the excitement of listening to
something coming from half a world away without wires.


and, just for fun, this additional tidbit:


You STILL can't take streaming radio with you reliably.


The proof is in the numbers. No one is listening.


Hello Dave,

Maybe no one is listening whom they can sell some contract to make
money. There are also many listeners who don't tell they are listening
for several reasons.

I am therefore happy that "Radio Nederland Wereldomroep" (RN)
intentions are to continue their service in foreign languages.

With kind regards,

Wim
PA3DJSwww.tetech.nl- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Thanks G-d ,someone still has a head on their shoulders .



RHF June 10th 11 10:53 PM

I meant 80 cm (20 inch?) mini dish. They have 500 channelseverywhere along the Equator
 
On Jun 10, 6:08*am, dave wrote:
On 06/09/2011 08:56 PM, wrote:







On Jun 9, 11:33 am, *wrote:
On 9 jun, 15:36, *wrote:


On 06/07/2011 04:39 AM, Brenda Ann wrote:


I can't believe they use this excuse to close down so many shortwave
services. There are three primary reasons why internet streaming radio
cannot replace shortwave services:


1) Target areas for shortwave services do not have access to internet.


dave June 11th 11 01:22 PM

There is no challenge in hearing 100KW transmitters
 
On 06/10/2011 11:56 AM, RHF wrote:

.


**** you you condescending prick. Why waste taxpayer's money to keep a
bunch of old creepy guys in America's hobby alive? I moved on to Utes
about 20 years ago, I suggest you GROW UP and do the same.

dxAce June 11th 11 01:40 PM

There is no challenge in hearing 100KW transmitters
 


dave wrote:

On 06/10/2011 11:56 AM, RHF wrote:

.


**** you you condescending prick. Why waste taxpayer's money to keep a
bunch of old creepy guys in America's hobby alive? I moved on to Utes
about 20 years ago, I suggest you GROW UP and do the same.


Stuff a sock in it, ya old retard.



[email protected] June 11th 11 02:08 PM

There is no challenge in hearing 100KW transmitters
 
Myanmar isn't attacking America.Don't worry about Myanmar, we have More
than enough Problems in America.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=308879

LOCK and LOAD.
cuhulin


dave June 11th 11 02:36 PM

There is no challenge
 
On 06/11/2011 06:08 AM, wrote:
Myanmar isn't attacking America.Don't worry about Myanmar, we have More
than enough Problems in America.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=308879

LOCK and LOAD.
cuhulin


Ansan Su Chee [sic] would disagree.

dave June 11th 11 02:36 PM

You're projecting again
 
On 06/11/2011 05:40 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 06/10/2011 11:56 AM, RHF wrote:

.


**** you you condescending prick. Why waste taxpayer's money to keep a
bunch of old creepy guys in America's hobby alive? I moved on to Utes
about 20 years ago, I suggest you GROW UP and do the same.


Stuff a sock in it, ya old retard.




dxAce June 11th 11 02:37 PM

You're acting like a retard again!
 


dave wrote:

On 06/11/2011 05:40 AM, dxAce wrote:


dave wrote:

On 06/10/2011 11:56 AM, RHF wrote:

.

**** you you condescending prick. Why waste taxpayer's money to keep a
bunch of old creepy guys in America's hobby alive? I moved on to Utes
about 20 years ago, I suggest you GROW UP and do the same.


Stuff a sock in it, ya old retard.




Burr[_2_] June 12th 11 12:30 PM

Voice of America operator plans "sunset" for shortwave radio broadcasts
 
I never enjoyed VOA, they talked slow and didn't always trll it like it was.

If you wanted ture news stories of America tune in Radio Moscow. In Nam I
listened to VoM to get the real news with BBC, RN.
--
Burr
From The Gardens
Roses & Orchids
Guiguinto, Bulacan. Philippines
http://www.guiguinto.gov.ph/
And Red Mountain, Ca. USA
I'm a member of The Tea Party, I VOTE



dave June 13th 11 01:54 AM

DXing the BBC is hardly a boastworthy achievement
 
On 6/11/2011 1:38 PM, RHF wrote:
On Jun 11, 5:22 am, wrote:


Shortwave Listener QSL Reports : http://tinyurl.com/2d9qlq
http://www.google.com/group/shortwav...er-qsl-reports
.
- = 2FN6XOG = -& - = 2D9QLQ = -
.
.

Maybe if you'd done it on a foxhole radio or something

[email protected] June 13th 11 02:09 AM

DXing the BBC is hardly a boastworthy achievement
 
Whos acting?

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...+Foxhole+Radio
cuhulin



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