|
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
Liberty Net: November 12, 2011
http://3950.net/2011/11/liberty-net-november-12-2011/ by Kevin Strom, WB4AIO THE EXCITEMENT was at a high level as the number of check-ins to the Liberty Net — both via phone patch and over the air — seemed to increase right in step with the sunspot numbers. Here’s a tiny selection of the issues discussed this week on amateur radio’s most best and longest-running discussion net: • Although poll after poll and vote after vote shows that Ron Paul is the leading Republican candidate, the billionaires’ media are blatantly suppressing that fact — more proof that American elections are about as genuine as professional wrestling matches. (30 minutes) • Electing new representatives or a new president is not enough. Not by a long shot. It will take a huge housecleaning and the revocation of thousands of illegal “laws” to reverse over a century of unconstitutional acts and subversion. (40 minutes) • It’s clear that Israel and its sycophants in the US are slavering to attack Iran. If they do, will it result in a devastating World War in which hundreds of thousands of Americans — not just the cannon fodder in the field — will die? (59 minutes) • The plague of abandoned and looted houses — and dangerous areas where civilized people, and even police, fear to tread — is spreading from Detroit to Black-majority and Mestizo-majority areas of Cleveland, Cincinnati, and other rust belt cities. (1 hour 26 minutes) • More and more states and communities are encouraging drivers to use “EZPass” — which gives faceless bureaucrats detailed information on where you, when you go, how fast you go, when you come back, and what’s in your bank account. (2 hours 14 minutes) • One of the most promising developments in recent years is the emergence of the Oathkeepers — a group of police officers and military men who swear to keep their oaths by refusing to obey illegal, unconstitutional orders. (2 hours 59 minutes) • All members of the military and the police need to understand that the regime in Washington is an illegal regime — and that all its wars are illegal wars of aggression — and that no election or series of elections is likely to change that. (3 hours 18 minutes) • Wherever fractional reserve banking has been overthrown, the cost of living has fallen by roughly two thirds, and the standard of living has skyrocketed. (3 hours 23 minutes) • New evidence is emerging that police departments are in the business of selling seized drugs on a massive scale. (3 hours 47 minutes) Thanks to Marty, N2IRJ, you’re able to listen to the Liberty Net right now on your computer here at http://3950.net/ — or download the file and listen on your portable mp3 player. And he also operates a live feed and chat during Net times that lets you make an end run around jammers and a fickle ionosphere. Soon, we also hope to see the N2SAG station — and Internet feed — make a triumphant return once Al relocates! Join in or listen to the most exciting net on the amateur bands every Saturday night starting at 10PM Eastern Time. Our thanks go to W1WCR for his hard work and courage in keeping this very important part of the amateur radio service alive since 1974! http://3950.net/2011/11/liberty-net-november-12-2011/ -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 19, 11:30*pm, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-20 02:28, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote: • Although poll after poll and vote after vote shows that Ron Paul is the leading Republican candidate, the billionaires’ media are blatantly suppressing that fact — more proof that American elections are about as genuine as professional wrestling matches. (30 minutes) • More and more states and communities are encouraging drivers to use “EZPass” — which gives faceless bureaucrats detailed information on where you, when you go, how fast you go, when you come back, and what’s in your bank account. (2 hours 14 minutes) • All members of the military and the police need to understand that the regime in Washington is an illegal regime — and that all its wars are illegal wars of aggression — and that no election or series of elections is likely to change that. (3 hours 18 minutes) - Will the Liberty Netters be joining forces with the Occupy protesters? Thus We Have Today's Blue Light{Plate} Special... Mixed 'Nuts' ! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 21, 1:25*pm, Hils wrote:
The liberty netters and the occupiers seem essentially to agree on many of the problems, notably around the banker, big business, and war industry infiltration and control of government. I wonder if some of the reluctance to engage is because both sets have grown up seeing the other lot as the problem. You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. The Liberty Net is not a movement, it's a tiny clique of reactionary CONservatives with delusions of grandeur. It is small in number, smaller in stature and embarrassingly ineffective. That they have been in existence for over 30 years and the state of the nation worsens every year is ample evidence of the latter. The Liberty Net is akin to what the "militia movement" was in the 1980's; 3 men and a jeep running around the woods with rifles dressed in camouflage - metaphorically speaking. Comic relief at its best. |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 22, 3:57*pm, Truth Teller wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:25*pm, Hils wrote: The liberty netters and the occupiers seem essentially to agree on many of the problems, notably around the banker, big business, and war industry infiltration and control of government. I wonder if some of the reluctance to engage is because both sets have grown up seeing the other lot as the problem. * You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. - The Liberty Net is not a movement, it's a tiny clique of - reactionary CONservatives with delusions of grandeur. The Liberty Net is best described as a Bowel-Movement -after-all-****-happens-!- -it-do- -yep-it-do-do- -;;-}}- |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 22, 6:57*pm, Truth Teller wrote:
[...] You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over it. OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing the bidding of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big time. |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 23, 6:49*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 22, 6:57*pm, Truth Teller wrote: [...] You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over it. OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing the bidding of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big time. Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap not a chance in hell of it ever happening -- http://bit.ly/g2PCII- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
"DEFCON 88" wrote in message ... They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now it's "leftist" to expect a decent wage for your labor, or to want the ones punished that made your 401k go away? |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 23, 7:41*pm, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: "DEFCON 88" *wrote in message ... They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Now it's "leftist" to expect a decent wage for your labor, or to want the ones punished that made your 401k go away? Not to mention all the working middle class who have had their homes fraudulently stolen from them. Obviously the poor fellow is a Faux News devotee. Fox News viewers less informed about current events than those who don’t watch news at all, study finds http://www.nydailynews.com/news/fox-...sEnabled=false "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mohandas Gandhi |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/23/11 17:58 , DEFCON 88 wrote:
On Nov 23, 6:49 pm, Bob wrote: DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 22, 6:57 pm, Truth wrote: [...] You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over it. OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing the bidding of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big time. Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap not a chance in hell of it ever happening -- http://bit.ly/g2PCII- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.' But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you. There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong. Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos. |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 23, 11:56*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 11/23/11 17:58 , DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 23, 6:49 pm, Bob *wrote: DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 22, 6:57 pm, Truth *wrote: [...] You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over it. OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing the bidding of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big time. Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap not a chance in hell of it ever happening -- http://bit.ly/g2PCII-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. * *I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.' But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you. * *There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong. * *Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ....Anarchists ?? |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 23, 8:56*pm, "D. Peter Maus" wrote:
On 11/23/11 17:58 , DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 23, 6:49 pm, Bob *wrote: DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 22, 6:57 pm, Truth *wrote: [...] You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over it. OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing the bidding of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big time. Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap not a chance in hell of it ever happening -- http://bit.ly/g2PCII-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. * *I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.' But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you. * *There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong. * *Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos. Much of the 'Occupy' Movement can best described as a Bowel-Movement -cause-after-all-****-happens-!- -it-do- -yep-it-do-do- -;;-}}- |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
Hils wrote: On 2011-11-24 04:56, D. Peter Maus wrote: I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.' But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you. If they're ignorant, they're young enough not to be blamed for it. They're on a learning curve. My memories of learning history at school jump from the Roman occupation to the agricultural and industrial revolutions. This may have been partly because my school's head of history was an expert in local Roman history, and industry is more exciting for kids because it's more tech stuff than ideas, philosophy and politics. It was years before I learned properly about things like Norman feudalism, the English civil war, the French revolution, Swiss democracy, capitalism, communism, the Labour movement, the Middle East, etc etc. There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong. They'll find the right targets eventually. Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos. Some folk in affluent neighbourhoods may have earned their wealth through honest labour, but statistically those places are also where the bankers, warmongers and politicians are. They're fair targets. k00ks are fair targets as well... Run along. |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/22/2011 3:57 PM, Truth Teller wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:25 pm, wrote: The liberty netters and the occupiers seem essentially to agree on many of the problems, notably around the banker, big business, and war industry infiltration and control of government. I wonder if some of the reluctance to engage is because both sets have grown up seeing the other lot as the problem. You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. The Liberty Net is not a movement, it's a tiny clique of reactionary CONservatives with delusions of grandeur. It is small in number, smaller in stature and embarrassingly ineffective. That they have been in existence for over 30 years and the state of the nation worsens every year is ample evidence of the latter. The Liberty Net is akin to what the "militia movement" was in the 1980's; 3 men and a jeep running around the woods with rifles dressed in camouflage - metaphorically speaking. Comic relief at its best. ROFLOL ... In hindsight, in retrospect, anything and everything "could have been done better." However, patriots, even when gathered in small numbers, are an asset and tribute to their country, fellow Americans, God, guns and gold! Grab 'yer arse, we are set for the ride ... Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the hearts says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/23/2011 5:41 PM, Brenda Ann wrote:
"DEFCON 88" wrote in message ... They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now it's "leftist" to expect a decent wage for your labor, or to want the ones punished that made your 401k go away? NO! It is damn AMERICAN!!! A fair days wage for a fair days work -- only slave owners, and would be owners, will have it any other way. Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/23/2011 8:56 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 11/23/11 17:58 , DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 23, 6:49 pm, Bob wrote: DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 22, 6:57 pm, Truth wrote: [...] You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over it. OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing the bidding of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big time. Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap not a chance in hell of it ever happening -- http://bit.ly/g2PCII- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.' But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you. There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong. Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos. Actually, it just doesn't matter -- the ones you are speaking of are probably the ones who rallied around clinton, bush and obama -- this will give them something better to do. The weapons just doesn't matter, tearing the crooks out of their illegally held public servant offices and positions of authority does -- anyway possible. RON PAUL IN 2012 -- THERE ISN'T A SECOND CHOICE! JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/23/2011 11:55 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 11/24/11 24:11 , wrote: On Nov 23, 11:56 pm, "D. Peter wrote: On 11/23/11 17:58 , DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 23, 6:49 pm, Bob wrote: DEFCON 88 wrote: On Nov 22, 6:57 pm, Truth wrote: [...] You are bestowing undeserved status to the Liberty Net. Occupy Wall Street is a genuine mass movement. OWS has the fingerprints of George Soros, Obama, SEIU, whatever ACORN calls itself nowadays, and various other Communist operatives all over it. OWS is mostly a bunch of naive spoiled punk kids, useful idiots doing the bidding of their Communist masters. The OWS punks need their asses kicked big time. Easy for a google groupie to hide behind a keyboard and spew such crap not a chance in hell of it ever happening -- http://bit.ly/g2PCII-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - They may or may not get their asses kicked, but leftist/marxist scum like OWS definitely deserve to be dealt with and kicked to the curb. I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.' But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you. There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong. Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ...Anarchists ?? Rebels without a clue. Disillusioned obama supporter, more likely ... Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/24/2011 1:49 AM, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-24 04:56, D. Peter Maus wrote: I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity, and many (I've asked them and they've said the words) who just want 'to be part of a big protest.' But if you ask what they're protesting, they can't clearly tell you. If they're ignorant, they're young enough not to be blamed for it. They're on a learning curve. My memories of learning history at school jump from the Roman occupation to the agricultural and industrial revolutions. This may have been partly because my school's head of history was an expert in local Roman history, and industry is more exciting for kids because it's more tech stuff than ideas, philosophy and politics. It was years before I learned properly about things like Norman feudalism, the English civil war, the French revolution, Swiss democracy, capitalism, communism, the Labour movement, the Middle East, etc etc. There's no doubt that there's a lot of anger, here. And there's no doubt that much of it may be justified. But this 'movement' in particular is more about personal retribution for achievement than it is about punishing those who've done so many people so wrong. They'll find the right targets eventually. Once they start indiscriminately going through affluent neighborhoods vandalizing any and every thing that smacks of wealth...it's no longer about a cause. It's about the chaos. Some folk in affluent neighbourhoods may have earned their wealth through honest labour, but statistically those places are also where the bankers, warmongers and politicians are. They're fair targets. Yes, they do seem to be learning, already they are stepping away from being obama supporters to being OWS supporters, a positive move anyway you cut it ... Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1 D. Peter Maus wrote: I've been to the rallies in Chicago and a couple of other cities. There's a lot of disruption, and an lot of noise, but little substance. A lot of people there, who, when you ask them why they're there (and I have), will tell you that they want to be part of an important movement, but can't really tell you what the purpose of the movement is. Some who are there because they get to act up/act out with impugnity I see the 'g' Consortium has gotten to you. With impunity.... mike the impugned -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOzphBAAoJEGQ2h+1OL/AcMswIAOONbmYmOTCTNIEKUErmk59a 58o+OpxAm6S+Ylg+l19SlFVxTdRg8OCWi9/sDjB1NXEs200kzxu0UmPOtB9BySlh 2037ytQ9kKdgb73rD4QWbXWGpX2rN+eYHl7LihUsnrQJT8LBqT 5fai81g33Af4L5 58y1ViQVD03mNMPW4ImHJbqN5nhbQYsOAqa0KMLiM25jylr70Y v+h/KqW9ONk1C1 dmL8pSpDpQm2B3NTW65jimXex3mPJCl2diUhhv+xYIAopzbiCf xrq3cbj7LnK95l sRSFPt9VIGH2dOezsvBRUmzvYm9d6MoSmOkgP7bzC83sX+ZjAZ oe4U6Aa9JIc2U= =1A54 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/24/2011 4:16 PM, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-24 18:00, John Smith wrote: Yes, they do seem to be learning, already they are stepping away from being obama supporters to being OWS supporters, a positive move anyway you cut it ... Many of them seem to have worked out that the political and financial systems they've been born into are inherently corrupt. I don't have the time to study the US media in any detail, are they still trying to pretend that Ron Paul doesn't exist? Absolutely! Ron Paul is still the "ugly child" which has dinner in his room ... Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On Nov 25, 2:51*am, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-25 03:02, John Smith wrote: On 11/24/2011 4:16 PM, Hils wrote: I don't have the time to study the US media in any detail, are they still trying to pretend that Ron Paul doesn't exist? Absolutely! There's coverage of the recent debate in the Guardian, but they mostly ridicule the "leading" candidates ("leading" according to the US media), only later admitting "Ron Paul had a stand-out night. He got some serious airtime, for a change, and he used it to challenge the party orthodoxy, the only one to really do so." You might like this though. http://rt.com/usa/news/paul-war-security-liberties-061/ RT.com is a guvmint source. Don't ever trusted them - the more things change--almost everything remains the same... |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/24/2011 11:51 PM, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-25 03:02, John Smith wrote: On 11/24/2011 4:16 PM, Hils wrote: I don't have the time to study the US media in any detail, are they still trying to pretend that Ron Paul doesn't exist? Absolutely! There's coverage of the recent debate in the Guardian, but they mostly ridicule the "leading" candidates ("leading" according to the US media), only later admitting "Ron Paul had a stand-out night. He got some serious airtime, for a change, and he used it to challenge the party orthodoxy, the only one to really do so." You might like this though. http://rt.com/usa/news/paul-war-security-liberties-061/ The drug laws were widely sold to the people as, "People are being duped into becoming addicted." I have always wondered what kind of logic is at work to make common plants, given to man by his creator, illegal! Indeed, "government" has made these plants illegal to the point where just the mere growing, possession or use will get one SERIOUS time in prisons -- at HIGH costs to taxpayers. It is insane. We have had drug education for decades. It would be hard to find anyone who is not aware of the dangers of drugs. I say, if they do no other crime than to grow and consume these, I don't give a chit! I'd much rather see the "control freaks" go into psychotherapy and have their addictions to imprisoning people for growing and consuming these plants cured! Or, simply, if you are that concerned what your neighbor is doing, perhaps you should stop ... Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
In article ,
wrote: On Nov 25, 2:51*am, Hils wrote: On 2011-11-25 03:02, John Smith wrote: On 11/24/2011 4:16 PM, Hils wrote: I don't have the time to study the US media in any detail, are they still trying to pretend that Ron Paul doesn't exist? Absolutely! There's coverage of the recent debate in the Guardian, but they mostly ridicule the "leading" candidates ("leading" according to the US media), only later admitting "Ron Paul had a stand-out night. He got some serious airtime, for a change, and he used it to challenge the party orthodoxy, the only one to really do so." You might like this though. http://rt.com/usa/news/paul-war-security-liberties-061/ RT.com is a guvmint source. Don't ever trusted them - the more things change--almost everything remains the same... Yea, but Yulia Shapovalova is really hot. Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/25/2011 1:35 AM, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-25 08:05, John Smith wrote: The drug laws were widely sold to the people as, "People are being duped into becoming addicted." I've often wondered why it should matter if people did become addicted (which is far from certain anyway) to something which they can grow on a kitchen windowsill. Do we worry about people becoming addicted to basil or parsley? I have always wondered what kind of logic is at work to make common plants, given to man by his creator, illegal! Indeed, "government" has made these plants illegal to the point where just the mere growing, possession or use will get one SERIOUS time in prisons -- at HIGH costs to taxpayers. It is insane. The tendency here is for folk who grow even a very few plants to face criminal charges, while those caught possessing "personal use" quantities are only cautioned. This encourages dependency on dealers while punishing self-sufficiency. When the government's drugs adviser (a leading academic who's spent most of his career researching recreational drugs) pointed out the illogicality of their "war on drugs" they fired him. The WoD is a political jobclub. We have had drug education for decades. It would be hard to find anyone who is not aware of the dangers of drugs. I say, if they do no other crime than to grow and consume these, I don't give a chit! I'd much rather see the "control freaks" go into psychotherapy and have their addictions to imprisoning people for growing and consuming these plants cured! Or, simply, if you are that concerned what your neighbor is doing, perhaps you should stop ... ...and you also probably want to see everyone marching in step wearing identical uniforms and zombie faces... Actually, I am too busy with my own life to be bothered with much concern what others are doing, as long as it is no harm to others around them. It ****es me off when I have to finally start slapping the childens hands and telling them to leave the other children alone! Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/20/2011 2:30 AM, Hils wrote:
[...] Will the Liberty Netters be joining forces with the Occupy protesters? There's already some overlap and communication between the two. All the best, Kevin, WB4AIO. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/20/2011 7:02 PM, Truth Teller wrote:
On Nov 19, 8:28 pm, Kevin Alfred wrote: Liberty Net: November 12, 2011 • Wherever fractional reserve banking has been overthrown, the cost of living has fallen by roughly two thirds, and the standard of living has skyrocketed. (3 hours 23 minutes) This is a very interesting assertion. Please provide evidence of this, viz., countries, dates, etc. As I am no fan of the Federal Reserve Bank, I'd like to learn more about this. I believe it was N8WGM who was discussing that. If you can't find his email address online, send me your contact information via the http://3950.net site and I'll be happy to pass it on to him. With every good wish, Kevin, WB4AIO. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/21/2011 2:25 PM, Hils wrote:
[...] The liberty netters and the occupiers seem essentially to agree on many of the problems, notably around the banker, big business, and war industry infiltration and control of government. I wonder if some of the reluctance to engage is because both sets have grown up seeing the other lot as the problem. (A perception fuelled by mass media controlled by bankers, big business, and the war industry...) A most astute observation. Mass media create a false "reality" that replaces what used to be a "village consensus" of "the way things are." This false reality includes false enemies. A Liberty Net station in one of the Occupy camps would stir things up. But you're right in that things won't change for the better until the corporate and government criminals are removed, and this will take physical action. Quite true. It gives one a warm feeling to have hastened that day. With all good wishes, Kevin Alfred Strom. -- http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://kevinalfredstrom.com/ |
Latest Liberty Net via WB4AIO
On 11/25/2011 3:04 PM, Hils wrote:
On 2011-11-25 20:17, John Smith wrote: On 11/25/2011 1:35 AM, Hils wrote: On 2011-11-25 08:05, John Smith wrote: I'd much rather see the "control freaks" go into psychotherapy and have their addictions to imprisoning people for growing and consuming these plants cured! Or, simply, if you are that concerned what your neighbor is doing, perhaps you should stop ... ...and you also probably want to see everyone marching in step wearing identical uniforms and zombie faces... Actually, I am too busy with my own life to be bothered with much concern what others are doing, as long as it is no harm to others around them. It ****es me off when I have to finally start slapping the childens hands and telling them to leave the other children alone! I wasn't referring to *you*, but agreeing with and enlarging on your previous sentence. Reading it again, the way I phrased it was a little ambiguous. I didn't have you down as a micro-management fascist. :-) I was not "attacking you," but reinforcing the point ... while I was not totally certain of your intent, my intent was to agree that "marching in step", or "micro-managing" was a symptom of a much larger mental disorder ... however, that disorder seems to be the elephant in the china closet, which no one notices ... or even supports! Regards, JS The calendar says 2011, the heart says 1776! |
Latest Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net via The Late Arky Bob
On Nov 19 2011, 9:28*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote: Our thanks go to W1WCR for his hard work and courage in keeping this very important part of the amateur radio service alive since 1974! He should let David Castle and Art Visser check in to The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net. |
Latest Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net via The Late Arky Bob
On Nov 26 2011, 1:41*pm, Kevin Alfred Strom kevin.st...@revilo-
oliver.com wrote: Will the Liberty Netters be joining forces with the Occupy protesters? The Great Liberty Nit-Wit-Net should occupy 3950 like before - and the jammers should be on board at 10 pm sharp. |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:10 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com